china colonized south china

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAp8bSdE5MQ&playnext_from=TL&videos=2FhTT5qvu4c

Asian history isnt as impressive as european

Even asians agree with that

Meiji Restoration is some cool shit.

Japanese war crimes are still less than US war crimes in The Philipine War.

And I like how PRC erased history of 40 million being actively starved by Mao Zedong. Stay classy asia.

>>607594
Yeah pretty messed up shit. The Germans definitely have to be overcredited as the "evilest" race. Nothing the Germans did was even comparable to the Japanese atrocities of WWII, and of course Germany acknowledged it's wrongs and apologized while Japan continues to honor it's atrocities. There is a reason why every single neighbor of Japan's hate them.

http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2005/fiyouzat140805.html

>>607620
>inb4 jealous gweilo sage
hey OP you know your audience. I think you scared him from saging.

>>607646

Actually i was secretly trying to spark knight vs samurai discussion

Whats your nationality OP.

This will become a biased thread..

>>607663
knights gained so much power because they went horseback

>>607681
American...just thought that you guys should get your own thread instead of making unrelated posts in other threads

>>607687
same with mongols....horses = power

>>607687
>Implying samurai's never fought from horseback

>>607689
alright cool. Whats the interest on Asia? You study Asian culture and such?

>>607687

Claymore is superior to katana in every way.

Weapon has to be heavy so it can kill someone in armor.

>>607698
nah, studying Industrial Engineering. Just have interest in many things asian, women, food, music, art, etc. Real asian not that fake weaboo shit thought.

>>607701
Chinese Dao was the best, no arguments there. Katana is overated.
pic related: even gweilo want big dao

Highs and Lows of each asian country.

Cambodia:
Highest: Khmer Empire, Angkor Wat
Lowest: Khmer Rouge

>>607692
well this is about samurai though

>>607693
samurai is a class. their reign was so long, the weapons changed

>>607701
heavier means one blow to kill, anything else would be too heavy? also less mobile

european swords > any other swords
europeans had the longest experience with swords and were the first to switch to more advanced weapons

>>607633
>Japanese war crimes are still less than US war crimes in The Philipine War.

Denying Jap detected.

Yuropes nightmare.

So when will China collapse? and which Asian country would take its place? India i presume amright?

>>607726
Katana used to fight unarmored peasants.But glorious europeans understood that one cannot hurt fully-metaled soldier with thin gayass sword.

>>607716

Swords with one edge sucks.You dont have time to worry about hitting your opponent with right side of sword in middle of combat

>>607718
that's true
China high: Xia (2100BC), Shang (1600BC), Han (200BC), Tang (618), North Song (960), Ming (1368), Middle Qing (1700s), Post 80's PRC (Present to near future)
Low: Warring States(250BC), Three Kingdoms (220), Mongol Invasion (1270), Manchu Invasion (1644), Opium War (1842), WWII/Republic of China-era (1912), Great Leap Forward/Cultural Revolution (1958).

Mongol STRONG!

Taiwan will come in and take back control

>>607759

Horse that can be used in war is expensive.Mongolians could afford them because they were basically living on them.However their life style is very bad for population growth and can survive only by stealing everything from other nations.

Say that to my face you samurai faggots when I'm in this gothic plate armour and see what happens

>>607788
doesnt change the fact that thry brought Asia, Middle East, and Europe to its knees.

..though that waas a long long time ago ;_; i'm not even Mongolian. I just thought they are the most awesome military civilization.

>>607718
>>607777
someone should continue this

>>607801
Spear through the armpit.

>>607812

>Europe

They did ?When?

I kill any jjokbari I find!

>>607832
Why do you think we make fun of Poland?

>>607832
when this happened.

>>607801
Samurai Archery > Europe Knights

For reference...
Mongul Mounted Archers destroyed all Eastern European knight calvary, footmen.

lol Europe

>>607801
>English Longbow

>>607801
lol that must be a really heavy armour

>>607844


They manage to defeat few eastern countries,but thats all

>>607849

>Mongul Mounted Archers
>Samurai archers

That's like saying a guy with a M16 is the same as a dude with an Apache.

>>607849

Longbow > Samurai

lolasia

Was it an external or internal problem that kept the Mongols from pushing further west?

>>607768
Personally I doubt India will ever come close to replacing China. It is too divided on language, religion, culture and everything. The concept of Han Chinese is over 2000 years old, however the concept of being Indian is only developed after the colony became independent. The way I see it, Indian collapse is more likely than a Chinese one. China has collapsed several times in history and always returned more powerful than before. And the cause of the current rise has a direct relation with it's fall after losing the first War with Britain in 1842. Up until that point China was the largest economy in the world and up until the 1800s it was also the most advanced nation. The Chinese people have gone through a lot in the past century and I for one would not be offended in seeing them take pride in their current accomplishment.
It is invertible that China will be a superpower, the question is will it be a friendly superpower or will the world be bipolar again. I for one think China will not be antagonistic with us (the Americans), especially after communism falls in China. And of course Communism will fall in China, it already is gone in a sense. They know communism won't last and they are teaching their children Confucian Rhymes instead of Marxist Slogans now, so they won't have an empty slot for national ideology after communism (unlike Russia).

Europe never had mounted archers.

>>607892
yurope cannot into ride and shoot

>>607892

Because mounted archers are ineffective.

>>607891
...soo Japan then? Korea? Malaysia?

who do you think has the potential to be the next overlord of Asia?

>>607823
Europe Strong: Hellenistic Empire, Roman Empire, Medieval Enlightenment, Colonialism, Modern Period
Europe Weak: Stone Ages, Mongol Invasion, Byzatine Empire, Hunnic Invasion, Catholic Slavery/Dark Ages, Islamic Invasion/Crusades, Habsburg Period

Future cyborg Mongolia will dominate the world.

>>607891
>implying the age of superpowers isn't over and that China isn't just taking another seat at the world's table of players.
:/

ITT White jealously of mongols horde.

The lamentation of the Europe womenz. etc

>>607905
Are you blind...clearly Mongolia will overtake China if China falls. Japan and Korea are only strong because they are supported by the Americans. With the troubles in North Korea and Japan's declining population and anti-immigration policy, I wouldn't be surprised if both become Mongol/Chinese puppets.

>>607898
>>607892
Wrong
Slavs used missile cavalry since ancient times
Mongolians raped because of the zerg rush not because horse archery was the ultimate fighting method in the medieval warfare

>>607912
>superpower age over
Eurofag is Eurofag....only current superpower is USA. Only potential superpower is China. Implying Brazil, EU, India, Mexico, Indonesia, Pakistan, Canda can have anything to say on world stage is... well... I don't want to be rude so I'll just let the picture do the talking

>>607921

>Japan declining population

Do you have any fucking idea how crowded place Japan is?

Its not negative thing

>anti-immigration policy

Yea im sure inviting sandniggers to their country would be great step toward bright future.

>>607929
protip: those were Mongols

>>607929

I never heard of slavic mounted archers

Im slav by the way

>>607940
Only places like Tokyo are crowded

>japan
>declining population

BRINGIN OUT THE CHART

>>607940
a country needs a proper workforce to sustain economic stability. If a population is decline then so is the workforce. If the workforce is decline the so will the economy. You racist Eurofags have no idea, what those people are doing for your economy. You should be nice to them for doing the necessary jobs you guys don't do. I agree there are some refugees who don't do jack shit, but if immigration into Europe works the same way as immigration into US, you have to have a skill, or employment to come.

>>607957
I am against the un-whitening of Europe. But I have to agree with you there. We need a proper workforce and our people just aren't making enough babies. I think we will be safe if we stop all Islamic immigration now and just let the ones we let in integrate into our society. But if we happen to let more muslims in I'm going to move to Canada or something.
Some European nations have stupid LIBERAL laws that allow people with no skills and are hated in their own nations into Europe. Refugees are not wanted in their home state for a reason, accepting them will only create problems for the host state.

>>607957

It doesnt

because of fucking leftist. Immigrants are coming here only to get be fucking lazy.Thats why all europeans whine.I wouldn't mind skilled and smart muslims.But those who are migrating to europe are mostly fucking sub-human trash

>>607948

Knights lasted until 1410
Samurai lasted until 1873

>>607995

>Russians
>Slavs

0/10

>>608002
>>608002

We still have knights

>>607994
>smart muslim
does not compute

>>607995
Horse archery is overrated
The mongols were strong because of their tactics and numbers

>>608002
don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Japanese culture and all that.

but that's like saying
OH YEAH? MY COUNTRY HAD MUSKETS UNTIL 1500, YOUR COUNTRY GAVE THEM UP FOR MACHINE GUNS IN 1350 SO WE'RE SUPERIOR

>>608019
Center of the pic , this is from hungary
Also the Byzantines used bows on horseback too
And don´t forget the javeline throwing hosemen

>>608033

Hungarians are Mongols

>>608019
>mongols strong because of numbers
just went full nigger

>>607907
not if I have anything to do about it

>>608081
but those mongols, they can't be destroyed

>>608019
>overrated

no..no..no Mongol Archers deserve every glory.

It was not only numbers, it was not only tactics, it was also skills. Mongol archers LIVED and DIED through Horsemanship. And it brought them greatness.

>>608097
but you have to understand the army was comprised of mainly chinese soldiers that the mongols enslaved, the real mongols were very little in numbers and their greatest achievement was enslaving china everything else is moot

>>608019
small numbers and largely irrelevant.

that >>607995
pic you posted? musovy calvary because they largely adopted the tartar / monglian weapons.

the famed polish calvary? largely influenced by eastern invaders.

>>607898
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcpHB-flwJQ

English mounted longbow archers.

>>608060
Yeah because 220.000 mounted niggers is not a zerg rush at all

>>608081
>>608091
I will be back.

>>608106
>implying the Chinese knew how to ride horses

>>608114
They were used in small numbers because they weren't unstoppable killing machines like everyone believes

>The Germans definitely have to be overcredited as the "evilest" race

agreed that is down to kike butthurt and jewywood... however referring to the germans as a race is retarded

>>608118

mongols were often outnumbered by those they fought... what happened to durr 'sheer numbers of chinese make invasion impossible'?

>>608145
yeah nigga i guess after being decimated, you learn from your enemies

Sup, me and my bitch here.

>>608106
Not really. The only Chinese assistance they had were siege engineers and other technicians like that. The bulk of the Mongol hordes were from the nomad clans of Mongolia, but they hired other nomad mercenaries such as Turks, Georgians and Armenians (see the battle of Ain Jalut, most of the fighters on the Mongol side were Armenian/Georgian).

>But if we happen to let more muslims in I'm going to move to Canada or something.

LOL canada is just as diversity fucked as europe... inb4 derp it's okay cos dey indian completely ignoring the ethnic extermination

>>608173

not shooped

>>608160
Where? in china?

>>608152

You have to understand that from jewish point of view it was terrible.

Their numbers are low so killing 6000 000 is catastrophe for them.Its one third of their total population

>>608019
it wasn't numbers. The mongols fought significantly larger armies and won. It's their elite horsemanship, archery, circle and shoot formations, tactics, discipline, and the fact that they practically live off the land that made them a nightmare to its enemies.

>>608197
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Khwarezmia

ur an idot

>>608223
don't forget psychological warfare.

>>608181
Canadian muslims are the smart ones, I'm not racist and have nothing against living in a multicultural society. The problem is Europe is letting in the worst kind of people in it's countries. And I don't know where some of you get your facts because it is clear that the mongols were outnumbered by everyone they faced and they enslaved and draft every conquered nation, which is clear that china was the largest conquered nation and the chinese supplied more than just technology to the mongol invaders. In fact it would not be wrong to say that the chinese invade europe, as more than half of their army was chinese (meaning from the conquered song or the conquered jin empires)

>>608230
> 400,000-450,000 men, however not organized into armies, only city garrisons and very low draft rate left the majority unmobilized.
Who´s the idiot again?

>>608230
u r equally idiotic. can't you see that he's a tripfag. a tripfag that doesn't bother to have a name. do you what that means?

>>608254
I just ctrl+f'd all his posts, and it couldn't be more obvious what he is. they should ban tripfags from 4chan, disrupting our intelligent conversation. but at least there's only one of them here

>>608254
>>608279
>Post facts
>Get called a troll
Why so mad?

so anyways now that we got the Mongol thing settled.

Lets talk about the Shaolin Monks.

>>608279
>>608254

>>608181

actuly canada turns all immagints into workign stiffs, seriously if your not doing somthing worth wile thell ship you off faster then a midget blows his load after a 3 month span in jail ,

>>608292
canada and us have no problem with immigrants not because they aren't racist. because it's tough to get in, and only the most qualified immigrants enter. europe grants refugee status to any shitty sandnigger.

>>608287
OP here. Sure. They are pretty awesome. Best Martial Artists ever. However I heard they are fake though, the get paid and aren't real monks, and the original shaolin monks all got killed when the temple
burned down a long time ago. And the modern Shaolin is nothing close to what the ancient martial art novels describe.
I think it was only 2 or 3 people talking about Mongols, probably Finns. I actually liked the guys who talked about rise and decline of civilizations.
(pic related, how did they do this!!!)
>>608288
mad, I don't think you understood the comic.

The time of China's exploration after the mongols fell... Crazy.

>>608361
what is this. looks interesting, what video is it from?

Mongol Empire:

Highest point: Under Genghis and Kublai Khan.
Lowest point: Once the Mongol Empire divided.

>>608374

It's lowest point would be right now, the only reason the Russians or Chinese haven't already just reduced it to a province is that there is nothing worthwhile there.

>>608348

I find most eastern martial arts to be complete garbage. Ultimately they lack the economy of motion and effective brutality to make them that useful against an opponent who can fight and won't be phased by you prancing around.

Knight faggots- plate wasn't used until very high middle ages/renaissance, knights wore mail. Archers raped their asses, which Samurai used. Your argument is invalid. Knights weren't the end all be all warrior. The whole argument is invalid, for their place in time and the people they fought they both were awesome, stop your internal dialogue, neither are supreme over the other.

>>608367

That's from a National Geography documentary "Treasure Fleet: The Adventures of Zheng He". To be honest, the documentary is somewhat inaccurate though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K54hxWTlEZo
This looks more interesting.

>>608081
>johnconnors.jpg

>>608412
Official main branch of Karate here.

No dancing.

No fucking silly stances.

FUCK YOU.

>>607842

kekeke

>>608413

Samurai used thin slashing weapons because Japan lacks the vast iron deposits that Europe had. It has been proven even the most sharp masterwork Katana wont cut through your standard bread and butter mail shirt.

Samurai archers didn't use Bodkin bolts so there would be virtually no penetration and at worse your average footman would get a bruise where the arrow hit his armor.

European armies perfected warfare against each other, viking incursions, muslim invasions, and whatever other calamities frequently plagued the continent. In the end this made them stronger as their desire not to end up as the ass slave of the shitskins propelled them into a innovation craze that in turn made all the brown people their bitches during imperialism.

>>608400
agreed. now is their lowest point. the were annexed by the manchu who also happen to conquer the chinese and merged the two brothers. russia tried to conquer mongolia, failed. And when china underwent a revolution and was extremely weak, russia sneak attacked outer mongolia and could have conquered it, but they felt a buffer between siberia and china was more important and only stole a small parcel of land from mongolia, and installed a puppet state. USSR fell and the puppet master is gone, but now they have no direction with their script destroyed, even the chinese mongols (which numbers more) have the mongol script, mongolian mongols use stupid slaveic (no sic) script. now you see a lot of rap from mongolia and that happens to be real rap, rap of the oppressed.

>>608400
you're right.

>>607584
why don't we all <3 the Karen rebels? christian militias fighting the insane, brutal burmese dictatorship? why we cannot into aide to KAREN REBEL STRONG!?!?!?!

>>608452
why you comparing Europe to the tiny island of Japan man.

Forget this guy 2chan. I think Japan is so kawaiii!

>>608242
>outnumbered by those they fought

so i get called an idiot even though i posted evidence???

lol okay. maybe english isn't ur first language

>>608485

Well lets compare Japan to England then. England was also a tiny Island that faced countless invasions. Japan faced 1 and lucked out due to weather. England goes on to rule 25% of the planets landmass, Japan finally just goes fuck it and copies the Europeans then shits all over the Chinese and Koreans until the USA says "thats nice but your inferior lol" and completely demolish them.

Hell even the Russians fucked Japan hard. The Kwantung army numbering around 1.2 million men collapsed in weeks after the Red Army outzerged them.

>>608493
They were fighting peasants with sticks no professional armies genius
There is a fucking note of that in the article right next to the numbers of the durka durka empire forces

>>608527

If China was unable to have enough trained warriors with such a vast population it deserves to get made a bitch, and thats exactly what happened. Most of Chinese history is someone making them a prison bitch.

>>608292 Canada literally trains their Asian immigrants from Pakistan to Korea, so that they will have functional job training no matter what. Canada rarely wastes money in human resources.

So, this is why Canada is a well-respected western country in front of Asians around the world.

>>608540
I agree but we are talking about the Khwarezmian empire not china

>>608511
Okay thanks for your thought.
though,
>copies the Europeans
u a nationalist or a supremacist?

>>608527
doesn't change the premise that the mongolians were still outnumbered

no one said shit about the quality of warriors they fought. you choose to argue about quantity and that has been refuted.

>>608551

Canada has the right idea, if they come here to work fine. But leeches, can go back to whatever PRC hellhole they came from.

>>608485
Japan literally copied everything from the West to become a world power temporarily. It didn't turn out well and now Japan is a borderline American colony.

ITT: white supremacist coming in telling us the obvious.

Anywoo, so who's the next Asian country we should talk about guise?

>>608197
You never thought of how the small nation of Mongolia could take over some of the largest empires of Asia?

Of course they never had a numerical advantage.

>>608560
They zerg rushed using capable fighters
Its still a zerg rush
Who cares if you count every single muslim in the militia as a regular soldier
When fighting more capable armies their numbers gave them the edge

>>608511
sorta true, except the Americans were supplying the Japanese with oil (but they were also supplying the Chinese with oil...hmmm), and sitting back and enjoying Europe and Asia get raeeeped. China after getting repped hard, starts making some wins pusing Japan back. The japanese refuse to admit defeat, so they commit many attrocities (even more than before) in China and Korea, the official order from the emperor was burn all, destroy all and kill all. Children and women were not spared, the imperial japanese army burned countless villages across china (and a few in korea) raping then murduring the women and salting the grounds afterwards. (Nanking Massacre was basically a large city almost entirely wipped off the map.)
Then the Japanese got blocked for war crimes and America did not give them oil. Japan got mad and attack south east Asia for oil, realizing how much easier south east Asia was to conquer than china the Japanese decided to upppp the naval invasion, china didn't have too many islands so the Japanese went full nigger and attacked Hawaii teaching the Americans a lesson for not supplying them with oil. America goes mad and goes declares war on germany (germany was also already getting pwn'd but by russia)
America goes in wins WWII in Europe but Japan refuses to give up and commits war crimes even on whiteys. America made and says to japan: hey...give up or we drop big atom bomb on you. Japan is like: fuck no we have small penis we like war crime. Then America dropped two big ones on Japan. And wins WWII in Asia as well. Of course as an American the version of WWII we learn in school only covers the war after America enters and tells kids America singlehandedly saved Asia and Europe.
(pic: pregnant comfort women in Burma)

>>608555

I am a realist, do you think Japan would have done anything if the west hadn't knocked it over the head with a reality check. They were supreme isolationists with an antiquated warrior caste that had no purpose after 500 years of enforced peace (lol disarmed peasants, and hostages from the nobility) Bullshido banzai charges during ww2 are what happens when you haven't had time to develope a practical warrior code, which all good ones are.

But yea I imagine without European influence Asia would probably be pretty much the same with minor changes, the societies shit on individuals and freethinkers which unfortunately for them are also necessary for innovation.

lol at interdependent societies.

>>608586

Zerg rush implies no tactics, mongols used feints, ambushes, phased deployment, lures then ambushes.

They would also use parthian shots to great effect, which would frustrate the enemy into giving chase straight into a face full of death.

They also gave orders through drumbeat which was pretty advanced for the time.

>>608590

We provided them with oil because they were industrializing, when we realized they were just using it to plow their neighbors in the ass we cut them off, so they attacked us. At which point we fucking rape them, turn their fleet into scrap metal and bomb all their cities, including the two nukes.

Japan had to learn the hard way I guess.

>>608584
You dont really need many troops to rape china
Its an historical fact that repeated itself time after time
And mongols commanded armies on the hundred thousands thats a lot during their time

>>608600

Your wrong, the only way numerically inferior warriors win is by zerging numerically superior forces, I've seen kung fu movies, the trained guy can take on like 20 guys at once.

>>608600
don't feed the troll
see this
>>608254
>>608279

>>608600
Anyone stupid enough to chase light cavalry deserves an arrow in the fucking head
Parthian shot was military darwinism

LOL funny guys here.

We talked about Mongols (still talking about it apparently), bit of China, and Japan. Who's next? MOAAAAR ASIAN COUNTRIES!! Lets talk about korea?

>>608624
you see zerg are inferior while the protoss are superior beings. even outnumbered 1000:1 protoss can win. and only idiots use zerg. real pros use terran or protoss.

>>608633
Asia sucks, for 1000 years it did fuck all. Why so lazy asia.

>>608633
but can't you see, this thread is already talking about korean culture. zerg rush, butthurt...can't get more korean than this

>>608653
True.dat

>>608651
OMFG.

no one wants your anti-asian opinion in an Asian thread okay. GTFO man

>>608633
Korea has no history and no culture, there aren't anything interesting about korea to talk

Remember the Eight Nation alliance, that was the golden age of china, look it up bros.

>>608666

I'm serious you could take a person from 500 AD china and drop him into 1500 AD china and he would fit right in.

>>608670
>Eight Nation alliance
summarize it for us

>>608675
The Eight-Nation Alliance (simplified Chinese: 八国联军; traditional Chinese: 八國聯軍; pinyin: bāgúo liánjūn) was an alliance made up of Austria-Hungary, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States whose military forces invaded China in response to the siege of diplomatic legations from several nations residing in the Legation Quarter in Beijing. The forces consisted of approximately 45,000 International troops. During the course of the campaign the allied forces brought an end to the siege of the Legation Quarter and brought an end to Boxer Rebellion in August of 1900. The troops were sent after the Boxers attacked and murdered Chinese Christians, foreign missionaries, and other foreign nationals across north China. The Boxers then converged on Beijing and besieged foreign diplomats and civilians who had taken refuge in the Legation Quarter. After their initial efforts to reinforce the besieged Legation Quarter, the Allied militaries eventually defeated the Boxers and the Imperial Chinese Army, and then looted and pillaged the capital.[1][2] At the end of the campaign, the imperial government signed the unequal Boxer Protocol of 1901.[3]

>>608674
good to know. But i'm here to learn about Asia just like OP.

Let's head west to the mighty elephant riding Indian empire!

>>608622
doesn't take many troops to take over all eurasia i guess

>>608666
Trip 6!!!!!
>no one wants your anti-asian opinion in an Asian thread okay. GTFO man
Oh mighty one!
Your opinion must be respected, oh mighty one!
We must bow down before you, oh mighty one!

>>608686

>>608699
>poser

>>607812
They were the first mobile spartans.

>>608699
that is right my servant. Now i say we talk about India.>>608689

>>608700
He copypasta'd wiki. Some people don't know of that site, it explains everything you need to know okay people. It's like going to /r/ and not knowing tineye
the link is https:\\ww.wakepodia..com

>>608711

Overpopulated shithole.

>>608711
Curry, curry and more curry. You mean they eat curry every day. Yes three times a day. Even on their McFlurry.

>>607848
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Poland

Mongols, nobody is too far or too strong to conquer.

>>608686

The only time you can get the great powers to unite is to curbstomp some uppity chinks, I approve.

>>608711
the King of one of the empires in India that Alexander the Great fought was a giant.

>>608727
Um sorry to be the one telling you, but I don't think that's curry on your McFlurry sir.

>>608729

They sacked Kiev and lost to the hungarians, hardly the domination scenario.

I so fucking wish I have mongol blood in me.

I bet Bruce Lee had a little from his mother's side.

>>608735
I am not a sir. But are you telling me it's not curry that I'm eating.

>>608736
And destroyed the kievan rus and enslaved russia

>>608736
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mohi

Devastated the Hungarians

>>608740

>>608742

The Russians became a vassal, but remember what happened later when the Russians decided not to be a vassal any longer? Rape, russias favorite pastime.

>>608674

Pff, China's history is full of progress... They have a whole list of inventions/discoveries and a rich culture...

>>608753

They still weren't able to press any further, pretty unimpressive considering Hungary was the shit tier of European armies. The king appealed to the HRE for help and they were like, "lol come back when you have a real threat, btw I'm gonna ransom your ass for some gold, and annex some of your western counties.'

>>608762
pshhhhhhhhhhh. talking what could have/would have happen isnt the same thing. The point was that the russkies went on their knees and accept the Mongols as their overlord.

R.I.P Genghis Khan

>>608753
> the royal family escaped to Austria to seek help from their ally Duke Frederick, but instead he arrested them and extorted an enormous ransom in gold and forced the king to cede three western counties to Austria

>>608775

They stagnated hard, Chinese inventions dried up after gunpowder. Good job.

>>608798
he's a true European lord, my neighbors country getting ransacked by an asiatic horde, well guess its time to take advantage of him.

The french did that with the Ottomans against the HRE as well.

Europeans love to backstab.

>>608794

I'm talking about what did happen, Russia became a mongol vassal, until they decided they were strong enough to win and stopped paying gold, the mongol army rolls up but gets put in its place by abunch of vodka swilling slavs.

>>608812
rowing oar, rotating gimbals, print making, pinhole camera, canals, zoetrope animation, paddleships

did you even read the list

>>608737
>That translates to 0.5 percent of the male population in the world, or roughly 16 million descendants living today.

sorry you weren't one of the lucky ones to have his warrior blood flowing through your veins. Shit sucks i know.

>>608829
hahaahaha

Korea has some pretty good battles with Japan.

There was one general who rocked Japan's navy with a few turtle warships.

I forget his name/date.

He committed sort of a suicide after though, cause the King in korea wanted to imprison him because he was too popular (and a threat by being popular).

At the last battle with his turtleships vs Japan, this general dude went out into the open without his armor and got shot through the heart by a Japanese arrow.

>>608850
LOL? those inventions so retardly inane that I can't be certain you are serious.

I invented a more efficient way of jacking off, does that mean I should be proud?

Also, regardless don't kid yourself the list of Chinese inventions compared to European inventions is futile.

>>608838
>until they decided they were strong enough to win

oh okay at least you understand they couldn't do shit.

Every great empire rise and falls. That's just the way it is.

>>608873

heres a wiki link to the turtleships, but i do not know the name of the general i have mentioned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_ship

>>608873
The only good battle Korea had with Japan was when that one Korean guy totally zerg rushed that stupid nip terran...oh wait that was starcraft

>>608876
what are you doing here?
>>608699

>>608876
i dont think anyone here is trying to say Chinese inventions are more superior to Europe mr. captain obvious.

Now leave this thread alone.

>>608882
it's true Koreans can only win battles in Starcraft

i think Korean history is pretty cool actually.

Here is the largest of the Three Kingdoms of Korea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goguryeo

it Covered Manchuria/North Korea/ and maybe parts of Siberia/Mongolia

founded in 37 BCE

Quarter Cantonese, do I count?

Korea is a small country now, but wayy back in the day it was a key player in Eastern Asian Kingdoms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gojoseon

The Korean history is cool. Come on, Koreans were an important ethnic group in the old USSR.

>>608892
But Chinese inventions are superior to Europe. But both are way behind American inventions. Without America you would not even be on the internet.
Not trolling here, just pointing out the facts.

>>608903

Also in the Wiki it says that the first descendants of the Gojoseon kingdom were Altaic peoples.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altaic

this is mongolia, siberia, korea, turkey, tungus,
and japan

>>608898
count. it's not for asians only, it's asians and asianboos, we all know 4chan's /int/ lacks asians who are non SNSD spammers.

>>608892
lol i love how every white supremacist in here jump in at every moment a middle east, Asian invention and or anything great from any countries in those areas are mentioned. They always wanting to compare things.

>>608913
I know the koreas and their revisionist history.
Koreans: we invented Chinese culture, including Chinese characters, we invented sushi, we invented Confucianism, We invented Buddhism, We inveted Christ, we invented Egypt, we invent Iran...they are just so butthurt