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People have done that in 2 weeks. Why should it take you 4 years?

>>4650055
>2 weeks
I don't even.

???

>I'm 22 and finally gonna stop being a bum and go to college.

Aren't community colleges daycare for adults?

>>4650152
I'm doing 2 years in community college then transferring to a 4 year.

Bumping

I think 2000 is a smaller number than you think it is. If you can't learn 2000 kanji in four years, you might as well just stay a bum because you're not going to amount to anything anyway. Sure, it's not easy, but four years is a long time.

>>4650211
It just seems so overwhelming compared to English.

> Peoples learning Japan because they believe that Japanese games aint getting localized due lack of translators

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZEA54VJEdE

>>4650219
They're not getting localized because no one wants to release a game that sells under 1 million units now.

Importing is fine by me.

>>4650223
namasensei is good, and its entertaining

you need good dedication
living in Japan helps alot
if you cant, you gotta transform ur daily life to japanese, start writing in japanese, put up papers on the fridge in japanese, do more things in japanese

and if you cant even be bothered to do that, then forget about learning anything other than saying konichiwa and arigatou

>>4650234
Well, using Japanese sites like 2chan and playing Japanese games should be helpful.

I could watch Japanese dramas or whatever too.

As for living in Japan, besides the xenophobia I am too much of a pussy to live in the Ring of Fire.

???

>>4650055
http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?id=9059

Took me 40 days though

>>4650040
Well OP, I'm european (portuguese german) I moved to Japan 2 years ago and I've been studying alone for 3 years (including those 2 years that I moved to Japan), if you dedicate yourself and ''japanize'' your lifestyle (by moving to Japan in my case, or by watching japanese TV shows without subtitles or reading mangas or playing games in japanese and researching what you don't understand) you could handle yourself in Japan pretty well in 4 years.
I'm still not 100% fluently but when you come to Japan you will learn that the japanese themselves are not 100% fluently in their own language (many kanjis are still a challenge for some people).

>pic, is the moonrunes table you have to learn to be able to read a newspaper here.

>>4650296
But within 4 years I should be able to play any video game possible, right?

That's my idea of "fluency"

>>4650308
Pretty sure, if that's your goal, for only that 4 years is maybe too much. I'm talking about reading fucking medical books.

>>4650340
Excellent, thanks

>>4650296
How did you move there? I'm currently applying to grad school there myself.

>>4650040
>Japanese would be the most useful to me
I doubt it, unless you live in Asia. Maybe Japanese is the language you are most interested in?

>>4650360
Well, I enjoy Japanese games a lot.

My very first video game was Final Fantasy 1 for the NES and been stuck on JRPGs and story centric Japanese games in general since.

>>4650361
Yes, but I mean if you live in the US, the most useful languages you could learn are Chinese and Spanish. That doesn't mean those are the ones you like the most.

>>4650152
high school v2.

So you have no interest in actually learning anything in college to make yourself stop being a bum, you just want to learn Japanese so you can continue playing video games all day and being a bum. Why the fuck bother with college then? Why not take lessons for Japanese?

>>4650296

殆ど読めねーー!!!

>>4650371
I'm going into computer networking, Japanese is a side thing for fun.

Mexican here

I want to read Berserk in japanese, I am learning one word a day (haven't forgoten any so far), in six years years I hope I can do this and maybe be able to watch anime in jpanese too. I am not sure I can manage to fluently speak japanese ever, I can't even speak english fluently.

>>4651101
japanese in mangas are for acting.it's unusual way to speak. you should learn it in another way.

The kanjis are pretty random, but not as random as they seem... There's a logic sequence to the strokes and also some basic strokes. If you know a basic kanji, that might help you remember the meaning of a more complicated one.
It's very natural once you understand it.
It's a type of "parallel language processing", I'd guess, in which our brain excels but that needs some guetting used to.

Learn french, score chicks.

I dont think it will be hard to learn most of the basic stuff & some of the medium/hard level words/kanji & how to use them. Much like how immigrants speaking english get the basic idea across.

But I think the problem will be more reading & recalling the stuff quickly. Especially like shit thats scrolling on the bottom of a news cast, unless youre some sort of autist freak like that guy from ?england? who learned icelandic in a few weeks.

Although good luck with your quest, if youre at a comm college do it offer japanese? what levels? I think the one here offers jap 101 & 201 or something, very basic shit.