>>4430686

North Korea?

Keep it simple stupid.

>>4430699
Yeah I like this one.

Problem UK?

Not from NZ, but I like OP's flag.

>>4430708

nope. the flag isn't going to change.

definitely not Australia anyway

Sorry you have to know it this way, NZbros.

>New Zealand
>Awesome

I find your lack of koru disturbing

>>4430718
The plot thickens

This kangaroo is wearing boxing gloves.
Your flag is invalid.

>>4430684
>Also are there any other countries that are likely to face this issue in the future?

Probably the USA and Canada.

Honestly why ISN'T Australia and New Zealand a country?

>>4430760

Same reason the US and Canada aren't 1 country

It sickens me to see Anglosphere nations moving apart rather than sharing a common identity.

My thinking is that children need to learn respect and admiration for the flag at a young age, so anything too difficult for a 6 year old to draw in class is something not done right.

>>4430764

>>4430764
We aren't moving apart, Australia just wants to get rid of the Queen

>>4430764

Put It this way, with Australia out of the Commonwealth games other countries might actually have a chance at getting some Gold Medals

>>4430747
>>4430699

These are the best ones.

>>4430773
I see the monarch as an important common part of Anglo heritage. It isn't like she has any real power, the monarch is just a piece of living history.

The ONLY other flag I accept as a true Australian flag. Everything else is unsuitable sporting mascots or poorly designed hippie Africa shit.

>>4430767
fix'd for symmetry

>>4430763
>Same reason the US and Canada aren't 1 country
Which one of you staged a violent revolution while the other waited for self rule?

Only a traitor would disagree.

>>4430776

We'd probably stay in the games even if we left the Commonwealth, like India.

Of coarse, a lot of Australians don't seem to realise that if we left the Commonwealth we wouldn't get the Queen's Birthday as a public holiday, which is reason enough to stay in it.

>>4430787
I think that it was NZ. It might have been us actually.

>>4430787
I was thinking the exact same thing. Obviously he doesn't understand why the US and Canada are separate countries.

>>4430788
I like the cut of your jib.

>>4430760
Kiwis don't like Aussies.

>>4430786

You cant just change the Southern Cross.. Constellations don't work that way

Around Auckland there are a shitload of Silver Fern flags on cars, buildings, etc. to show support for the All Blacks in the RWC.

I've gotten very used to seeing them, and it's gotten me thinking that I wouldn't care one bit if the Silver Fern became our national flag tomorrow.

>>4430800
Which is funny because we are pretty much the same as them. I just hate Quade Cooper

>>4430801

well these did:
>>4430729
>>4430769
>>4430784
And I think it makes it look nicer.

>>4430805
I can barely tell the difference. The accent is a different (but hard to differentiate at first for Americans), Aussies seem to be a bit more overtly racist, and I know Aussies like Aussie rules while Kiwis prefer Rugby. I think there are probably larger cultural and linguistic differences between different regions of the US than between Australia and New Zealand.

>>4430793
The Australian States asked the Colony of New Zealand to join the Commonwealth of Australia when we were all federating but they said they'd consider it later. Australia left a clause in our Constitution to allow them to join at a later date but they never took us up on it and eventually formed a nation on their own.

>>4430821

Accents are an iffy thing. Most linguistic guides claim that the NZ dialect is essentially the same as the Australian, but no one speaks that way outside of the South Island. What people really speak is urban NZ, which is a mix of RP and GA (thanks to education and television respectively), and what most people associate as NZ which probably stems from the Māori:
http://www.youtube.com/user/SEEKJobs?v=xjUK-Fnm84k&feature=pyv&ad=9944866864&kw=beached%
20AZ

>>4430830
That is a far cry from a bunch of violent republican zealots driving loyalists into the frozen north.

>>4430830
The state 'New Zealand' has been around for longer than the state known as 'Australia'.
-Australia formed 1901.
-New Zealand's first parliament was in 1854.
But Australia is still older in terms of colonial people living there.

>>4430830
It's true. And ever since then, the proposals for New Zealand to become an Australian state have always been far more popular in Australia than New Zealand.

I mean, it makes sense. New Zealand doesn't want to lose its identity.

Now if the proposal was instead to combine the two into a new country that isn't called Australia, then you might get the Kiwis on board. You could call it Australasia or Oceania or Antipodea or some shit.

I wish a new landmass would just rise out of the ocean connection New Zealand with Australia, that would be pretty cool

>>4430845

I'm all for a union with Australia as long as we keep autonomy of some sort. As retarded as our politicians are, Australia's are somewhat worse.

It wouldn't matter if NZ became part of Aus 90% of kiwi cunts move here anyway and the other 10% just dream of moving to glorious Auzzi

>New flag for NZ and Australia

Take the top left part of your flag (you know, the one inside a square), and then enlarge it to the size of a flag.
Enjoy.

>>4430852
Why is it all the coconuts? I mean I rarely see a New Zealand white person in Australia.

All your islands are belong to US.

Alright guys, let's rip off the bandaid all at once.

- combine countries
- change flag to something with Southern Cross
- new anthem
- GLORIOUS SOUTHERN REPUBLIC OF ANTIPODEA
- combine sports teams, obtain greatest sports teams in human history

>>4430863
The teams would become unbeatable.

>>4430865
All Blacks and Australia super Rugby team. Nah that wouldnt work, Aussies cant into Hakka

>>4430854
I like Oceania better for a name.

Aussie flag thread? Aussi flag thread.
Mine combines three Australian anxieties:
1) Name mistaken for Austria
2) Flag mistaken for New Zealand
3) People mistaken for China

>>4430871

>>4430821

The relationship between Australia and New Zealand is pretty similar to the relationship between USA and Canada. Both are culturally similar but try to distinguish themselves apart from each other at any possible moment. Both are heavily economically integrated. Domineering big brother, smugly superior younger bro etc etc

New Zealand is one of the shittest places i have had the misfortune of visiting Dunedin is the biggest hole on earth it should become a prison where all the worst criminals from around the world are sent

>>4430875

I know what you mean, bro.

Also, America is fucking UNLIVEABLE. I've been to Mississippi, and god damn.

>>4430866
Only a third of Australia plays rugby, your Polynesians would probably able to displace us.

>>4430874
I have a much easier time telling the difference between Canadians and Americans, but again I was posting my outsider's perspective on Australia and New Zealand. I'm sure they can detect their differences more readily than the differences between Americans and Canadians.

>>4430875
Yeah Dunedin, Palmerston North and Hamilton all suck.

>>4430875

Current New Zealand is 1980's Australia

>>4430883
With more brown people

>>4430875

>Dunedin
>what did you expect.png

>>4430883
You mean "Current New Zealand is 1970's Australia".

Here's a white-blue cross with the constellation in proper order, I think it looks like shit.

>australia
See, arm. Seriously, its just one change, looking at history books in the future you would beable to tell that the previous flag is australian.

>>4430895
>Abo shit.
Nope.png.avi.eu3

>From time to time the idea of joining Australia has been mooted, but has been ridiculed by some New Zealanders. When Australia's former Liberal party leader, John Hewson, raised the issue in 2000, New Zealand's Prime Minister Helen Clark remarked that he could "dream on".[63] A 2001 book by Australian academic Bob Catley, then at the University of Otago, titled Waltzing with Matilda: should New Zealand join Australia?, was described by New Zealand political commentator Colin James as "a book for Australians".

If you're really that desperate you can become the West Island if you want.

>>4430899
Maybe we should see how keen you are for a Union when we revoke all our special concessions.

>Adding 4 Million to the Australia Population
>Nice little GDP Boost
>Few more cities in the top ten Cities in the world
>Couple more Ships for the RAN
>Big Maori Fuckers for the SASR

i'mokaywiththis

But Aussies like to ban things


Kiwis don't like to ban things.


As far as I know New Zealand is the most gun-friendly nation in the commonwealth.

>>4430786
>>4430786
oooh I liked this one

>>4430899
it's just kiwis making up for their cultural weakness and political irrelevance with a false sense of bravado

>>4430912

No, that's probably some shithole like India or Pakistan.

And Canada would probably be the least restrictive Anglo nation, guns-wise.
Second after Canada though, probably.

>>4430931
Anglo-Commonwealth nation, that is.

>>4430786
fucked around with yours and now I like it more

>One of the reasons that New Zealand chose not to join Australia was due to perceptions that the indigenous Māori population would suffer as a result. Federation age Australia had a strict White Australia policy and indigenous Aboriginal peoples were not granted citizenship and the vote as early as the Māori in New Zealand, who had full citizenship, and universal suffrage since 1893.

In a way, this is still a reason (rational or otherwise) that Kiwis will sometimes use to justify not being an Australian state. There is a feeling that Australia is racist and has yet to come to terms with its own dark past.

>>4430935
That is a thing of beauty. Any Kiwis want to throw in their two cents?

>>4430940
No way! There's no point changing the flag if it's still going to be so Commonwealth-y. Modern New Zealand's colours are black-and-white (and maybe red). It's unique and we should embrace it.

>>4430936
>There is a feeling that Australia is racist

It is....Australians anyway.

>>4430935

Hurts my eyes

>>4430684

This one, or this one it is based off, are what I consider our best options.

>>4430944
Of course we are but if the Maoris don't like it why are hundreds of thousands of them living here.

>>4430936
>>4430944

>>4430943
how bout now?

i could invert the colors between the background and the cross but then it looks evil as fuck

>>4430936
It's true, in a way. It's one of those bizarre facts of history that the Maori were treated so well (relatively). I've heard people say that it's because they were more of a warrior culture and so earned the settlers' respect more than the Aborigines did.

I'm Australian and I'm jelly of the way that New Zealand has embraced Maori culture instead of trying to hide it under the rug. Something like doing a haka before a rugby game would be inconceivable for a lot of white Australians.

>>4430955
Do it, I wanna see. Fascist Collective of New Zealand.

>>4430955
Progressively more nazi.

>>4430936
before federation, the seperate australian colonies had already granted voting rights to all males over 21, including aborigines. state voting rights also gave them federal voting rights.

>>4430959

The Maoris actually banded together and stood up against the British, The Aboriginals just let them settle and bitched about it 200 years later

>>4430955
>>4430955
see?

>>4430968
Fucking badass.

>>4430968
It's like the embodiment of totalitarianism.


>>4430946
Do all Kiwis have such shit taste as this one?

>>4430968
GUARD PACFIC'S TRIPLE STAR
FROM THE MACHINATIONS OF INTERNATIONAL JEWRY
MAKE HER PRAISES HEARD AFAR
GOD DEFEND NEW ZEALAND

>>4430959

>I've heard people say that it's because they were more of a warrior culture and so earned the settlers' respect more than the Aborigines did.
It's more than that. It's the fact that they kicked our ass so many times.

It's hard to oppress someone when you can't beat them in an engagement. We had to resort to economic warfare to grind them down. And we did.

Can't fight when your crops are burnt, can you Titokowaru? Bloody git.

>>4430955
>>4430968
>>4430935

Looks like the English flag with different colours.
The stars don't work in that combined space, the idea of a constellation is lost when you have lines (not following the constelation's path) running through them in the background.

Also, Nazi flag.

imo all English speaking nations should sport a red, white and blue banner.

>>4430980
Wat do with Canada?

>>4430972
Come on, all these new flags look like shit. A lack of a decent alternative has kept the current ensigns going for years.

I'm okay with this though.

>>4430980

Oui.
Parce que les nations parlantes anglaises sont les seuls pays avec ces couleurs.

>>4430981
I don't know.
But I am very disappointed in them.

>>4430980

>>4430986
Never said they were.

>>4430986
Hey boys we got ourselves a Frenchie! Better watch out or we'll sick the Tongans on you

>>4430995

What are they going to do?
They're out of the World cup already and France isn't.

because Sealand

>>4431009
>superimposing the southern cross over similarly coloured objects

Oh god stop it

>>4431009
Lose the Southern Cross and you've got a good flag.
I don't know what the obsession with the Southern Cross is. It only says that we're in the Southern Hemisphere, it's not very distinctive.
The Silver Fern is our very own naturally-emerging national symbol. It should be front and centre of any new flag design.

>>4430997

They'll probably win a game against you.

You know? Like they just did?

>>4431014
>implying I'm French
>Implying Tonga could win a game against the All Blacks

You done goof'd

We're practically one country now, what with all of our treaties and shared history. That being said, officially combining our two nations would be a step too far.

The further away you get from the federal legislature/executive the more agitation arises in the population. Canberra can barely legislate for Western Australia, let alone a country as far away as New Zealand.

Plus the New Zealanders, being the junior parter of the duo, would have to adopt all of our laws and restrictions. I don't know about you guys but New Zealand is my first bug out point if Australia goes to the shitter regarding civil liberties. Sure they might have the same framework as us but in a legislative sense they are behind about 20 years. This is a good thing in my view.

Oh, and the NZ dollar would have to be pegged to parity to the AUD. That would end any advantage that the little pacific battler would have in trade (remembering that a large percentage of their economy is made up from the export of dairy products to other nations).

Are there actually any Aussies / Kiwis in this thread?

If not, this whole 'Let's design them a new flag!' thing just seems a bit sinister.

ok, listened to your comments, how's this one?

it has black red and white, is a fairly original setup and the constellation is in the right shape

the job on the fern is a little botched since I'm using MSP for this so just use a little imagination

>>4431025

Aussie here with a Maori Brother in Law

New Zealand officially boycotted the 1980 Moscow Olympics as part of the US-led boycott of the games. However, four New Zealand athletes competed under the flag of New Zealand's Olympic committee, which was a black and white silver fern flag.

>>4431027
I also didn't notice that part of the lower star got cut off....damn, more imagination!

>>4431027

Get rid of the Red. make them white

>>4431027
Lose the Southern Cross and it becomes a terrific flag!

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. Why does everyone want the Southern Cross?

>>4431025
I'm Australian. I'm mostly here to trash the designs and support Australia's British heritage.

Do other countries do this a lot?

Is the Netherlands looking to annex Belgium?
Is the USA wanting Canada to join the Union? (opinion of /int/olerants not counting)

Australia, if you respect the ANZAC history and companionship, you should respect our wish to remain our own independent nation.

Unless some future despotic version of Australia full out invades, New Zealand is (barring some sweeping change in how the nation or the world works) always going to turn down the offer.
You wouldn't want to become part of the USA or Indonesia, so it's frankly insulting that you would think anything but the smallest minority of New Zealanders would like to destroy all traces of national identity and fall under the flag and title of Australia.

New Zealand joining would just be an improvement in national statistics for Australians on /int/ to brag about.

>>4431025
Kiwi with dual citizenship in Australia here.

>>4431046
No one here is seriously pushing for it just joking around in terms of sport teams and alternate history. Besides we don't want you left wing pussies augmenting the Melbourne-Tasmania Greenfaggots.

>>4431038
kk

>>4431039
>Why does everyone want the Southern Cross?

because stars are pretty

>>4431046
>Is the Netherlands looking to annex Belgium?
Some Flemings would like that.

Learn from Canada. They have one of the best flags in the world. Why?

They took their homegrown national symbol (maple leaf), and made a simple flag involving it, using their homegrown national colours (red and white).

We take our homegrown national symbol (silver fern), and make a simple flag involving it, using our homegrown national colours (black and white).

>>4431046
No one in Australia is actively out to annex NZ, some just entertain the idea/think it would be funny. Calm down bru

Jesus, why does everyone have such a hard-on for the silver fern. It's bloody kitsch.

>>4431051
I think we have a winner here, any Kiwis like this enough to submit it to your national flag competition deely?

>>4431053

>Canada
>Good flag

>>4431051
My problem with the silver cross is that the current NZ flag reads like a logical sentence. It says:

UNION JACK + SOUTHERN CROSS
"Britain, but in the Southern Hemisphere."

If we don't have the Union Jack, the Southern Cross loses its meaning.

>>4431057
mines a black fern

>>4431053
>Learn from Canada. They have one of the best flags in the world.

EL OH EL

>>4431061
but...stars are so pretty though!!

>>4431062
It's called a silver fern because that's the name of the plant, silly. Did you ever notice that the "silver fern" is actually white?

>>4431053
Canada has one of the shittiest flags.

>>4431064
Canada does have one of the best (read: most memorable) flags in the world. It's simple, uncluttered. It's like a brand

Most flags have way too much shit going on, which is all very interesting to vexillographers, but it means that they aren't memorable.

>>4431067

yes i did notice, i just thought you guys did that because you realized that a shiny silver flag would look idiotic

my flag still looks boss though

>>4431073

>It's like a brand

Because I want my country to be mistaken for a travel agency.

As far as I'm concerned, this is already the national flag of New Zealand. Everything else is just a formality.

I look at this flag, I think "New Zealand". I look at the actual New Zealand flag, I think "awkward colonial history".

>>4431079
New Zealand IS a travel agency! More so than most countries.

>>4431084
When I look at that flag I think "Goddam faggots have no taste".

When I look at the current flag I think "This represents over a hundred years of history".

New Zealand: good for staying as a tourist, bad for living for the rest of your life.

>>4431093
What's so bad about New Zealand? Is it just the living expenses and retarded government? Or is there something sinister?

>>4431090
>over a hundred years of history

That isn't really very long, you know.

>>4431104
We don't have a hell of a lot more than that.

>>4430993
>dat image name

also, don't Worry Commonwealth Bros, even if we became a republic like Russia we would still be part of the Commonwealth, we love you guys :3

how bout now you picky kiwis?

>>4431114
Exactly. If we joined Australia now, or changed the flag now, or became a republic now, it wouldn't really be a big deal. It would just mean that the previous 100 years were a temporary historical blip.

It really wasn't that long ago that we almost joined the Australian federation. We shouldn't forget that by pretending that New Zealand is some long-established institution.

>>4431121
aww shit...now it's kinda making me dizzy

>>4431102

It's hard for an educated man to find a job.

The economy isn't very high tech. We have sheep and financial services. Limited research posts. About it.

>>4431084
The only problem I have with that flag is that it's unbelievably bland and it reminds me of the POW flag, anyone that seriously wants that as their national flag must be a very boring individual. However, I've heard tell that New Zealand is a very boring place, so maybe it fits you guys.

>>4431121

Ugh.

>>4431102
New Zealand has a very good standard of living, but not very good job opportunities. I guess it would make a good place to retire, but it's kind of awkward if you're born here. All our ambitious youngsters go to Australia to work.

how about those Americans?

>>4431141

>Ambitious
>Australia

Aim higher, starchild.

>>4431138
now what?

>>4431132
>>4431141
>Hard to find a job.
That's what I tend to hear in general from most expats. My maori exgf had a particular hatred for Helen Clark as well.

>>4431147

Say what you want about Aunt Helen's policies, but at least she had character.

John Key finds it necessary to humiliate our nation every time he goes overseas. And Labour seems to have decided they need to find an even bigger git.

I am not looking forward to these elections.

>>4431147
Lack of jobs, epidemic of bullying in schools, lack of quality teachers, high university tuitions.

>>4431147
That's odd; Maori tend to love the Labour party. Helen Clark had a lot of admirers and a lot of haters - she was unapologetically leftwing. I kind of miss her now that we have a boring centrist as a PM.

>>4431121

same basic concept

but this one is still my favorite
>>4431051

>>4431151

>epidemic of bullying in schools, lack of quality teachers, high university tuitions.

Come on. New Zealand does better than most countries on these fronts.

>>4431149
>praise for helen clark, obviously

Well, obviously, I think you should go to bed, Helen.
You're obviously not obviously fooling anyone.
Obviously.

>>4431121
Hypno ferns

>>4431154
That looks...Clean.

>>4431051
DO WANT but as someone pointed out the cross without the jack is kind of pointless.

>>4431151

>bullying

'If Wiremu calls me a fag one more time I'm fucking moving to Australia!'

>>4431158
>Like his predecessor Helen Clark, Key views a New Zealand republic as "inevitable", although probably not for another decade. "If Australia becomes a republic there is no question it will set off quite an intense debate on this side of the Tasman," he said, "We would have to have a referendum if we wanted to move towards it." [48] Key later stated that he is a monarchist, and that a New Zealand republic would "Not [happen] under my watch".

Typical boring John Key. Helen Clark not only wanted us to become a Republic, she even designed her own flag! I miss her :-(

>>4431158

i hate those flags....
we might change our name as well if they change the flag to something that crappy....

i guess i'll go to america to live the dream

>>4431151
No wonder why Kiwis wanna move to Australia.

>>4431159
the Southern Cross is because it's a southern Hemisphere nation formed by naval colonization

>New Zealand wins RWC
>New Zealand suddenly becomes extremely celebratory and patriotic
>flag is changed to silver fern within a week

justasplanned.jpg

>>4431121
>>4431154
>>4431051
These are all very nice, but you must understand m8, Kiwis are a boring bunch and want there pure black with white fren flag and nothing you do is going to change that.

The only problem wit hthe Silver Fern flag is that you're leaving out the Maoris, their color is red.

>>4430729

Looking back, this one is quite good.

>>4431158
>obviously

Oh lawd I thought I was the only one who noticed he does that.
A confident public speaker he is not.

>>4431181

What about OP's flag?

>>4431186
It looks gaudy as all fuck.

>>4431184
That one looks really "tribal".

>>4431181
That's true. Maybe something like the OP, then? I really like the OP, it somehow manages to say everything without looking cluttered.

Black and white: Pakeha/Sports culture
Red and black: Maori culture.
Fern: National symbol, symbolically replacing the Union Jack.
Southern Cross: nod to the old flag.

>>4431189
>without looking cluttered

It does actually look cluttered.

>>4431188

It looks Gaudy because it's wearing a ridiculous hat.

I'm taking a tour of Auckland right now on google street view... It looks like a poor mans Toronto.

>>4431191
Yeah, maybe it is, a bit. But you have to remember that it is still less cluttered than our current flag, in the sense that the Union Jack is very detailed and fussy.

My second favourite is definitely this one:
>>4430729
But I don't like that particular version of the stars. The koru is a lesser-known NZ symbol, but in fact it does represent the same plant, so it's a nice way to have the silver fern without making it too "All Blacks"

>>4431194
>a poor mans Toronto.

That's one of the best descriptions of Auckland I've ever heard.

For reference here is the NZ Maori flag.

It's very simple, un-cluttered and very well designed (in my opinion).

>>4431194

New Zealand is the poor man's Canada.

Which is why kicking your ass in rugby is delicious.

>>4431194
I wonder if the Mexican Cafe down Victoria Street West from the Sky Tower is any good.....well, I am Mexican so for me it'll probably suck ass....Could probably put them out of business if I opened up a restaurant though.

>>4431207
>kicking your ass in rugby
OH LAWDY WE PLAY RUGBY NOW?

>>4431194
Have a look at Wellington

>>4431206
I think it would be totally sweet if that was our national flag. But you know it would never happen. A lot of Pakeha would be up in arms about it, "but that only represents one culture in our multicultural society!" when in fact they mean something much worse that they don't have the guts to say.

How about a flag that is somehow symbolically cut in half between Maori and Pakeha? But in a way that doesn't imply conflict

>>4431174
The thing is, I can actually see this happen.

On another note, apparently 25% of voting aged New Zealanders have no idea when the election is.

>>4431208
hmmmm. the Area to the West of the Sky Tower looks pretty ok actually.

>>4431186
The Maoris are about ten percent of the population. By giving them different attention your implying that they are different from other New Zealanders which is exactly the kind of PC bullshit that pisses people off. One people, one nation

>>4431214

Well it was postponed by the Rugby World Cup.
Not even joking.

>>4431217
this

>>4431207
#1 sports that Canadians hate = Rugby

>>4431217
But they ARE different from other New Zealanders. The country's law has the ToW as part of a de facto constitution. That means that Maori are different from non-Maori in the eyes of the law.

You're not going to be able to change that without making the founding of the country extremely awkward and sinister.

>>4431220

Yes well

#2 Sport that Canadians love = Curling

So maybe you don't get to have an opinion about sports, Canada.

>>4431217

New Zealand is a multicultural society comprising many nations. We should embrace and celebrate our differences, because that's what makes our country unique.

If you want to be racist fuck off to Australia

>>4431215
>>4431215
Queen Street seems fairly pleasant as of now.

>>4431221
I understand where you are coming from and there is a strong legal element to your argument, but if New Zealand wants to move forward we need to accept that we are multicultural, but we are all New Zealanders. The silver fern doesn't just represent Pakeha (Like the union jack does), it is a symbol that has been created by a multicultural society that encompasses all people, that is why I believe that it would make a better flag than the Te Kawariki Maori flag.

>>4431217

Maori culture is an integral part of New Zealand culture, whether you're white, asian or brown. If you don't like culture you're free to move to America.

>>4431223
But reverse-racism is just fine?

>>4431223
Exactly. So then why the fuck do you want to only represent Maori with a new NZ flag?

>>4431221
Exactly. Whenever some wannabe libertarian like Don Brash tries to attack Maori's special position, I always say "libertarians like contracts, right? Well the ToW is a contract!"

"One nation, one people" is really just code for "okay, reset history RIGHT NOW! From now on, the same rules apply to everyone. No, I have no idea how I got all this land."

>>4431225
Queen Street actually looks quite nice but on the whole I think I'd be happier in Toronto, then again I'm Mexican so either-or amirite? I just don't think I could stand the Canadian winters year after year.

>>4431233

> No, I have no idea how I got all this land.

Ha ha. That's a fine way of putting it.

>>4431233
So that means that NZ should only represent one culture on the flag how? Your just making strawman arguments.

>>4431249
That wasn't me. But it's because Maori culture is that only thing that makes us DIFFERENT. Maori iconography is New Zealand iconography, because everything else might as well be white people living in some other country.

>>4431236
One thing is bugging me though, a few times I'd be going down a street, nice shops and cafes everywhere and then out of nowhere a fucking ugly as sin "gold for cash", "GET CASH NOW" or "Beer and Wine" store....it's kinda wierding me out.

>>4431231

We should incorporate aspects Maori symbolism/design into any potential new flag.

I never said anything about 'only representing Maori with out new flag'. Stop being full retard.

>>4431232

laughing.jpg

>>4431254
Also wtf is Esquire Coffee, I know the Aussies turned Burger King into Hungry Jack, did Kiwis do something similar to Starbucks? Cuz the font they use is similar.

>>4431264
Nope we have starbucks too. Robert Harris or Mojos is probably the best NZ coffee franchise but that's up for debate

>>4431264
Customs Street Reminds me of Greece for some reason.

>>4431264
No, we have Starbucks too. But Esquires is better IMO. Of course, any one-off cafe is miles better than either.

>>4431254
>>4431254
>>4431254
>nice shops and cafes everywhere and then out of nowhere a fucking ugly as sin "gold for cash", "GET CASH NOW" or "Beer and Wine" store

On this note....FUCKING SHOWGIRLS OUT OF NOWHERE

>>4431279
Aaaaaand now there's a Gore Street...Oh joy.

>>4431283

Now I'm on Ford street and there's a shady looking Massage Parlor with some illegible signs I can only assume say "happy ending".

Hamilton, Ontario (Canada) looks so much better than Hamilton, New Zealand.

>>4431279
>FUCKING SHOWGIRLS OUT OF NOWHERE

I drive past there everyday, and I still think it looks out of place.

>>4431294
Commerce Street looks like crap, someone srsly needs to do a lot of renaming of streets in this city.

>>4431302

Fuck your tour of Auckland, take a tour of Adelaide, Australia

>>4431308
>He's not paying attention to my country
>This will not do

Stay classy Australia

>>4431308
Fuck you I'm not finished with Auckland.

Quay street seems boss if strangely named.

>>4431302
>>4431308
Adelaide is definitely the nicest city in Aus and Wellington is the nicest city in NZ. I've lived in both as well as Sydney, Melbourne, Auckland and Perth. If you're moving to Australia or New Zealand you should seriously be looking at Adelaide or Wellington (respectively)

>>4431319

How so? It's on the quay.

>>4431295

There is no Hamilton, New Zealand. No one lives in the wilderness between Auckland and Wellington.

>>4431329
Hahaha yeah don't look at Hamilton or Palmy. They fucking suck.

>>4431329
At least Palmerston North has a university. Hamilton doesn't have anything

>>4431322
I'm sure that's very funny with an expanded English Vocabulary.

Cin Cin looks like a place I'd like to go eat.

>>4431320
>If you're moving to Australia or New Zealand

It's Auckland or Toronto.

prolly Toronto.

This whole area at the end of Quay St is giving me really wierd Toronto vibes...is this like a Commonwealth thing or is it just Auckland?

>>4431337
Yeah go Toronto. You don't want to live in Auckland.

>>4431337

A quay is that place by the sea where boats moor. Wharf? Berth? What do you call it?

Aaaaaand now I'm in gang land, how the fuck? lol i dunno.

>>4431362
wtf? I thought NZ or at least Auckland was fairly tropical....why the shit is there a fucking enclosed pedestrian bridge? Just...fucking why?

>>4431370

A lot of people froze to death in Christchurch many years ago.

>>4431370

To stop suicides.

It's fucking retarded, I know.

"Library Bar"....Yeah this isn't hipster at all.

>>4431354
Well then that makes perfect sense, I was commenting on the word itself sounding strange though, I simply assumed it was someones name.

>>4431379

It's pronounced "key". Not "Kway".

Seriously, nobody posted this yet?

>>4431385
...Really?....well that's....no...noooo....how? I'm done...I'm done, I'm out, good night or good morning depending on how you look at it.

bubye

>>4430733

Ausfriend here,

I approve of this flag well done

New Zealand has a strong anti-intellectualism in the public culture.

>>4431423
I would call it tall-poppy syndrome. That tends to happen a lot in New Zealand.

Dunedin is a fucking shithole.

Full of vile, nasty, violent drunken moronic students.

>>4431472
Someone is intimidated by nerds.

>new shitland

>not a 3rd world shithole

>>4431447
I wouldn't call it a tall-poppy syndrome. Anti-intellectualism is a separate trait among Kiwis. "As incompetent as a New Zealander in a discussion" is an occasional phrase among Canadians.

>>4431050

Boy do I have some bad news for you.

Sad to say but you're pretty much three steps to the left of us. We spend less on welfare than you, second only to the stingy yanks. We have no unions to speak of. Our labour protection laws are non existant, where as your own are amongst the most developed and strong in the entire OECD.

We're right wing because we're fucking broke - it's what happens when a developed nation has an economic downturn, we turn on our own. You fuckers don't know SHIT about right wing politics; we could teach the faggot torries a thing or two about right wing politics. Fucking Abott doesn't know shit about fucking over the poor.

To any Aussie thinking of moving to NZ, don't. We're poor, in debt, and get paid fucking nothing for the work we do. Our political discourse is approaching UK or American tier of shitfestery. There is a reason we flock to your glorious bubble economy; half my fucking family has left this dying state.

Seriously, fuck this country. We have no fucking prosects for the future, none what so fucking ever. No upwards mobility, high income inequality, no savings, high debt, our only export is agriculture which is relatively maximized in terms of how much more it can grow. We just got hit by some fucking earthquake that killed the whitetrash in Christchurch; now we all have to pay to keep them alive in their frigid shithole.

Actually, we DO have one important resource for Australia - the lessons you can learn about what happens when you let free marketeers run the economic policy for a decade. Australia has proven remarkably resistant to free market bullshit, thanks to your left wing's persistence in the face of redneck retard tidalwaves of populist, welfare-hating traitors from the right.

>>4431646
you seem upset

>>4431646
>Welfare haters
>Populist

Have you even been to New Zealand? Or are you just one of those faggot cafe-based hipsters?