why bother it all ready ruined with commie blocks and shitty infrastructure

partition of Ukraine is near

believe it

the only Ukrainian lands

>Ukraine
>country

yeah, no.
split it between Russia, Poland and Romania.

In 10 years time Lwów is Polish again. Wanna bet?

>>4380708
If Poland gets that back the Germans get OstPreussen. It's only fair.

>>4380999
Nope. Ukrainians were willing to work in SS troops and got Lwow for that.
Silesia and Prussia - rebuilt from ruins after WWII, ours now, ours in the past (excluding Silesia, the land was longer ours than occupied by anyone else), Ukraine has nothing to do with the fact we got them.
Lwow - left intact, ours in the past (not to mistake with Ukrainian Lviv that was near our Lwow and got burned), the borders got changed in the last moment possible, you can keep the rest :)

>>4381104
Ukraine was able to move west because you were given German territory. If you start reclaiming the East. Germany should be entitled to their old claims as well. You don't get to build a Super Poland out of 500 year old claims and bitch Germany shouldn't want to do the same.

When Ukraine goes bankrupt, we will take it back.
And it's gonna happen soon.

>>4381152
No, we got our old territory back but still lost more territory and destroyed Warsaw. And the cities we got there were just a bit less destroyed than Warsaw. Ukrainians got Lwow because they were eager to fight Polish anti-commie partisans and civilians in Soviet and/or German armies, optionally with their own partisans. Stalin liked the chaos, because it was easier to capture EE. If one of the biggest countries in Europe appeared out of nowhere, there must be something wrong with it. If they want to be nice, they should give Lwow back :3

the baltic tribes called - they want prussia back!

>>4381189
there is more baltic prussisns leotvers in Poland than in lithuhania

you think they all got genocided by germanic trash

nope

they have run former mentioned countries and assimilated with the rest

Lwow should become part of Poland. Ukraine is too big for Ukrainians to properly manage it. With all that funds flowing from UE Poland would be able to restore Lwow to its former shine.

fuck lwow i want tranopol and stanislawow back
those are polish without any objection

Poland can have Lvov back if you kindly return Danzig to its rightful owners.

>>4381256
its already in rightful hands

Let's all agree that this is how Europe should look. Observe that there is no Poland on this map.

>>4381286
oh look this faggot again

>>4381286
>serbia
>existing

yeah... no. it's a miracle they even survived ww1, beeing the cause and all.

>>4381256
How do Germans get the rightful ownership of a city, p.1
1. Teutonic knights ally with a Polish king to come to Pomerania to spread christianity
2. They agree not to come close to Gdansk or settle in its vicinity. Some Germans move there anyway.
3. The Polish king goes to a war, the Teutonic knights murder the Polish population of Gdansk behind his back
4. Some more people from various German states come to the city. It's empty and you can just move in.
5. Gdansk is german, hurr durr

>>4381286
Also there's no Ukraine.

>>4381303
danzig to it's rightfull owners!

baltic tribes, are best tribes!

>>4381317
there was no balts further than Vistula stop being retard

>>4381317
>originally Baltic land

Hey you're right. Give us back Danzig and East Prussia, you fuckheads.

>>4380708
But we always used to win it armed conflicts, OP. You can thank Stalin for lwow, not your soldiers.

>>4381303
not quite

>>4381361

>>4381317
Kashubians, you say? They live near Gdańsk up to present, so it is in rightful hands. Our shitty PM is Kashubian too. They have more power than any former tribe there.

How Europe is supposed to look.

>>4381393
Poland approves of this map. No need to give us Russia though, we don't want to border China.

>>4381393
Fuck off Russian troll. Keep pining for your lost empire.

>>4381393
why would the russians take so much poles to them?

even poles dont like other poles so they go to germany, france and great britain.

>>4381393
Too much prussian land there

>>4381411
Agreed. How about we do this, Russiabro.

>Poles bitching about "stolen" land.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>4381419
Add an anschluss.

>>4381419
All of you can eat shit and die

>>4381419
too much caucasian countries there.

oh and, is that kazakhstan independant? cant have that.

>>4381420
the only people crying about stolen land here are germboos like you

not even real germans

herp derp murrifats with germanic ancestry

>>4381419
If we do something, let's do it right!

>>4381439
Ok, gotcha.

>>4381455
Kebab Removed.

ITT: samefag with blank_map.gif
Do you really think you can have any country within your borders if you can't deal with the Turks in your own? Hilarious

Poles, gief back Ukrainian clay!

This should satisfy nearly everyone (Ireland is reunited with the UK, not Ulster reunited with Ireland)

>>4381493
I lol'd
they teach you with this map in Ukraine?
Ukraine didn't exist before 1990's, everything else = fairy tales

>>4381500
>Slovakia
>Not Hungary

>No Yugoslavia

>Turkey still there

>Czech not divided

>Elsass-Lothringen
>French

Yeanoyou'reacunt

>>4381493
OK.
I assume you're sticking to 'Ukrainian historical regions" and 'Ukrainian ethnic and linguistic territory'.

>>4381509
sôcra gtfo. Oh wait, you have no homeland.

>>4381509

>>4380730
crimea belongs tatar turks

>>4381505
this map is from internet
its even in wiki
accuracy of it laughable


whatever
anyway one can make it

>>4381500
We don't want Ireland

Europe, 22th century

>>4381505
>implying the first Russian state wasnt based in Kiev

>>4381505
what can you expect from people that write in tourist guides that cracow was ukrainian city

not to mention that all slavic lands in east Germany were ukrainian as well

>>4381524
crimea belongs to crimean east goths you genocidal freaks!

>>4381526

>>4381530
>implying kiev wasn't build by polans

same tribe that migrated and untied poland later on

>>4381535
Works for me.

>>4381530
>implying Swedish raiders didn't found the first Russian state/cities

>>4380730
Crimea is TATAR.

>>4381530
>implying Russia matters

>>4381518
I have Croatian nationality and a Permanent residency status for Germany.
Oh yeah and I could apply for dual Nationality (Croatian/Hungarian)

That's 3 countries I can call my homeland, nig­ger.

>>4380999
> It's only fair.

YES, YES!

>>4381549
no.jpg

Long live Gorden Horde!

lol urkiane

slaves to turkics
slaves to joos
slaves to scandis
slaves to mongols
slaves to lithuania/belarus
slaves to poland
slaves to moscovite
slaves to turks
slaves to tsarist russia
slaves to austria
slaves to commies
slaves to germany
slaves to commies again

lol free not really still slaves to jooish oligarchs

in the future slaves to Russia and Poland again

face the fact hahols
you are nation of slaves

deal with it and stop struggling its inevitable

The way Europe should be (if not fully unified):

- British on their isles
- Spain with the Iberian P
- France with western mainland europe (including belgium/luxenbourg)
- Germany cental, give them Austria/Hungary
- Italy on ze boot
- Russian having most/all its satellite states
- Ottoman resurgance with control over all the balkans so I dont have to remember all those names

Turk living in Argentina here btw; I have spoken.

>>4381657

10/10

lol

>>4381657
my face when Turko-Germanic border

Polish logic:
>no country has any claims on out territories even if they`ve owned parts of them for centuries
>the only way Poland loses a war is by betrayal
>polish people are the smartest in the world
>poland has claims on any piece of land that was ever under polish rule
>poland has claims on any land where slavs live
>any country that ever went to war with poland deserves to be nuked

>>4382418
Oh I forgot:

>poland won WW2 and didn`t just get handed some territories to weaken Germany

>Lwów
>hundred of years Polish
>suddenly CCCP appears
>Lwów now Lviv
>Ukrainian

>>4382418
0/10
You don't even read what you're commenting on.

>>4382426
>Prussia
>hundreds of years german
>suddenly WW1 appears
>hand it to the polish

>>4381657
>Ottoman resurgance with control over all the balkans so I dont have to remember all those names

I'm intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

After more than fifty years the Poles are still mad. Truly, Poland is the land of butthurt.

Also Daniel of Halych up in this motherfucker!

>>4382418
Man that’s not polish logic, that’s are pure facts!

More like this.

>>4381657
isle*

>>4380708

they will believe it

>>4380730
Yep.

>>4381530

>implying Kiev is ukranian

>>4388534
nope its polish build by polans

>>4388549
obviosly Russian

>>4388549
polans settled on the ros river called themselves rus and so the rus began

>>4388549
lets not forget our found
Kyi, Shchek and

kyi gave the name
Shchek more like preocec czech
Khoryv more like horyv / hryv some Croatian? after all red croats are from territory ofukraine

eurobabies and their territorial disputes

But I love Ukrainebros. I was rooting for them when they won the DOTA2 tourney since Poland didn't have a team. You can have it anyway, think of it as a gift! Let's just be Slavbros and unite against dirty mongoloid Russia.

>>4388579
murrifat who never had their own land because they stole everything from natives

>>4388586
This is a troll thread, man.

>>4388586

>Slavs
>Calling others mongols

Good lols were had.

TRUE Europe!

In Ĺviv everyone speaks ukrainian, not polish.

Ukraine!!!! DO you really want to be polish state again?

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!!!!

soon

Why should I want mudlandia back?

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

germans, do you know whats the difference between prussia and lwow?

prussia was polish, then polish king decided to call Deutscher Orden to christianise pagans, they started to do shit and take over prussia

lwów teritories were polish since 1300~ and suddenly taken after WWII


see the fucking difference?

>>4394156
>lwów teritories were polish since 1300
...when they were stolen from the Ruthenians.

Only difference between Preussen and Lemberg is that Poles occupied it longer than Germans did Preussen.

>>4394093

Oh, best map ever!

All Europe loves you!

WORLD PEACE 4 EVER WHEN THIS MAP COMES TO LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

why on earth someone wouldn't want to be Polish is beyond me.

>>4394220

Given it would be necessary to annex Kazakhstan next to prevent Asian invasion. I don think so.

>>4381340
yeah, because when people live at a river, they don't live on both sides, that would just be silly.

>>4381536
nope.bat

The Polans that settled in modern day Poland were a cousin group to this one.

This is the the updated version:

Cernauti and Bucovina are Romanian
Budjak was taken from Moldova
Transnistria belongs to Ukraine, not Moldova

Basically, that's Bessarabia and Bessarabia is Romanian. Stalin was smart, he took parts from Moldova and gave them to Ukraine and vice versa so that he would make sure it will be very hard to unite and maintain a majority of local population.

>>4394403
look third post has done it right

>>4380708

up

Ukraine is doomed to be slaves

>>4402361
Doubtful.

>poland
>taking anything

this fucking thread still alive? /int/ is really dead

Poland should take Ukraine and Lithuania invade Belarus. It would bring forth a new age of prosperity in Eastern Europe.

>>4405944
yea right

>>4380708

lol

>Anonymous 09/21/11(Wed)09:09 No.4380708

I'm the OP of this thread. I'd love to fucking delete it, but I can't because of resetting my router due to faggot mods.

>>4410110
Some faggot keeps on bumping it.
>>4380726
/thread

>>4410133
Good it will stay here till 299 posts

enjoy

not

>>4410137

Lviv will become Polish the moment the Falklands belong to Argentina.

we should also take Sarny and Pinsk. To save anything left intact by soviet hordes

>>4410532
sure

I am getting closer towards developing the perfect Europe

>>4412723
we do Poland gets Slovakia

we do not want more gypsies

>>4412731

Then exterminate them you pussy, the mapped borders are all FINAL, deal with it.

>>4412731

Because Poland sucks Germany's dick, and this perfectly illustrates that.

>>4412723
>Not returning rightful Prussian lands in Pooland.
>Not returning rightful British lands in the Eire

>Giving Germany Czechia (wtf..) and not German speaking Austria/Switzerland.

>>4412776
What German land? I thought that those became second Turkey years ago?

Russia too big. Let's decompose it a little.

Also Greater Finland + Some trolls for you to spot.

ip

>>4413398
wtf is dat

>>4417706
dunnoo

bump. for teh lulz

hahaha fucking Yuros

ITT:

>people from irrelevant countries bicker over who owns what piece of irrelevant, quasi-third world land
>all of their countries were either part of Russia or Russian puppet states
>stay mad

>>4412776
Welp, your lost. You want Szczecin, Gdańsk, and what? Silesia, You are funny man.

>Angsty abandoned Russian children thinking that they prevent foreign invasion and not international law.

Fuck nukes so much man, if they didn't exist, we could war freely and mouthbreather countries like yours would be gone in an instant.

>>4419534
>A Pole implying they could defend themselves.
If everyone could war freely you'd be partitioned faster than a Ukrainian could steal a pig.

Baltic homeland! Lviv is ours - because 3200 years ago we lived in lands where it is located now.You can''t argue with my logic. A list of cities that are ours by this logic: Gdansk, Poznan, Warsaw, Lodz, Krakow, Lviv, Kiev, Voronez, Minsk, Moscow, Kazan, Gorkiy, Jaroslavl, Rostov, St.Petersburg, Helsinki, Tallinn, Riga, Vilnius.

Baltic power!

>>4419604
>>4419599

fullretard.exe

>>4419604

> baltic
> power
> 2011

>>4419604
>>4419599
You made my day. Now go back sucking Russian cock. Without Poland you could have been part of Russia a long time ago.

>>4419604
>>4419599
A minority in your own homeland, as if you didn't have enough Russians already up your ass in Latvia and Estonia.

And what would the capital be? Moscow?

10/10

>>4419604
>>4419599
Congratulations, you are a sheer minority on your own country then.

not so fast

>>4419616
>>4419621
>>4419626
>>4419695
>>4419699
Why the butthurt all of a sudden?

>>4421792
>iwasonlypretendingtoberetarded.jpg

This is one of the wars I would like to see, I'd also like it to be VERY ambiguous as to who started it so no other countries get involved, just a one-on-one between the two former commie Nations. I think they're similarly matched up to make it a very interesting "modern" war and quite possibly the first war of the computer age between two nations that can field adequate amounts of modern computer age equipment if they needed to.


I think it would be a close call.

>>4421806
Yes. That was, in fact, the joke. Are you retarded?

>>4424220
you sound like the one who is retarded

>>4421807
>>4421807
>>4421807
>>4421807
My post needs more attention, I think it would be an awesome war.....well, as "awesome" as wars get anyway.

ITT polefags get butthurt cause they got beat by everyone

including superior Deutschland

u mad polen

>>4381286

Hear hear!
Poland is indeed an unnecessary nation, it should be partioned between Russia and Germany.

Fuck you Poles.

>Lwow
>going back to Poland

ITT: Polish faggots who don't know that western Ukraine is its most patriotic part

>>4435879
>implying there aren't millions poles waiting there already

1300's

1400's

1500's

>>4435891
>millions
>barely 6,5k in reality

It'll never happen. Deal with it.

1600's

1700's

1800's

1900's

>>4435911
>6.5 k

1950's

2011

>>4435918
>millions

So, from all these maps, we see that Poland hasn't existed since the 1700's. By the logic of Polish people, Turkey has claims over all of the Balkans.

>>4435925
only 121 years out of like more than 1000 of existance

wow big deal indeed


comparing that ukriane wasn't around til 1990

1919

>>4435929
The first Ukrainian state was the Ukrainian People's Republic, a breakaway territory from the Russian Empire that was declared in 1917. After a few years of war it was beat down and incorporated into the Soviet Union as the Ukrainian SSR. That was the first united Ukrainian nation-state.

>>4435940

If I remember correctly, there were a couple of those and they had no authority whatsoever, issuing constitutional acts no one cared about. Bolsheviks came and took everything with no problems.

Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Funny thing is Poland supported idea of independent they even got some autonomy on territories inhabited by Ukrainian

>>4435929
1795 is when Poland went out of existence.

The U.S. was founded in 1776. I do believe by 1915 they considered themselves to be sole heirs and owners of America, so we see that by that same time frame people can both lose and claim rights of land.

Poland was partitioned from Germany only to spite the Germans and lower their power. I've never understood why the rest of the world didn't just let Germany have Poland back, considering it was a part of their country that they had legitimate claims on.

I think Polish people with national pride are just ridiculous, as their country hasn't contributed anything to the world whatsoever and most people look at it as the shithole of Europe and as an illegitimate state that exists solely as a punishment to Germany.

I am happy only that the country exists because at least that way we can keep all the Poles in an isolated area and let them pretend to be an actual country.

pic related its the only ukrianian land

>>4435963
Thats the funny thing in history,: the land that Poland manged to secure in 1922 after Polish victory in 1920 War had ukrainian population that would have otherwise died in 1930's during the famine
Same goes for Lithuania and the Baltics; these guys exist only because Bolsheviks were stopped in the battle of Warsaw.

>>4435969
there were propolish supporters even within Bismarck close circles

not to mention poland was one big bragging chip due upcoming conflict

fight for us polacks we gib you land

>>4435975

Yes they would get killed or deported

on other hand no shitty balts maybe beside some latvian leftovers


fine with that

I live in Ukraine and I do think that it shouldn't be an independent nation.As far as I see it - everyone speaks Russian anyway.The only people who speak Ukrainian are West Ukrainians who are dirty peasants anyway.I would be okay if Russia annexed us, I guess we won't be living worse than we do now.

>>4436655
so your saying it should be an ethnicity rather than a nation. Like the scottish or something. (my great grandfather was a Ukrainian who was of polish nationality and moved to america around the turn of the 20th century.)

>09/21/11(Wed)09:09

Possibly the longest non stickied thread ive ever seen

>>4439926
seen longer

>>4436655
fuck you moskal`
,> hurr durr if Russia annexed us, I guess we won't be living worse than we do now.

spasibo zhytelyam donbasa...

>>4436655
fuck you moskal`
> hurr durr if Russia annexed us, I guess we won't be living worse than we do now.

spasibo zhytelyam donbasa...

>>4441936
Moskalsversus Khokhols

both turkified and mongolized
the question who is bigger
imho Ukrainians

agree?

You guys serious?

Poland defeated the Ottoman Empire in the Battle of Vienna (with some German, Austrian, and of course Lithuanian legions). I don't think anyone wants a bunch of Muslims running amok in Europe, so good on ya Poland.

Then, Poland got partitioned. Russia and Germany (MAJOR European players) now border each other. Not very smart, is it? Cue World War 1. I'm not sure that there would ever have been a World War 1 were it not for the fact that Poland got wiped off the map. That's just speculation, but who knows.

inb4 blabla ww1 actually started because blabla

Poland fought and won a series of wars after her return to statehood after WW1, which I think is more than enough to prove her right to independence. Most notably, in the Battle of Warsaw (1920), Poland defeated the soviets, who were coming down hard on Europe. Their goal? To make all of Europe communist.

European borders are fine where they are. Nobody in Poland really wants Lwów back. Europe needs peace because it can only compete on the world market (against soon to be superpower China) if it isn't blown to hell and back.

>>4446313
>Nobody in Poland really wants Lwów back

oj mylisz sie brachu gleboko sie mylisz

>>4446321

Nie, ja mam rację. Nie chcemy wojny. Nie warto!

>>4446359
Wojna to i tak bedzie z niemcam i z rosja jak zawsze

>>4446359
Są jeszcze tacy gotowi oddać życie za Lwów

Bądź pewny

soon

>>4446365
>>4446376

Może jestem naiwny, ale mam nadzieję, że nie będzie wojny. Może będzie wojna, ale dla Lwowa? Nie. To nie chcę.

>>4446425
mnie to tam lata
moja babka od strony ojca z kresow polnocno wschodnich z pod lidy od matki gdzies pod lodzi


wiec gdzie mi do lwowa

>>4380708

>>4435938
FUCKING THIS!

>>4435938
Yurop of dream. No shitty Ukraine, Belarus and Balkan countries.

>>4447913
you wish prussiaboo

>>4381286
As long as Belgium hasn't been split up between France, the Netherlands, and for a tiny part Germany, the map is not correct!

>>4448477
>posen
>cradle of poland
>not polish

only retard form usa would make such a map

This thread stopped being funny a good 10 days ago.

And I fucking hate polaks.

dont mind me im just uploading yet another random map of europe

more like this, no magyarfags in Transilvania...

up

>>4380708
Slavia Strong

Turkey shall rise again!

>>4451828
yeah, sure.

>>4451804
that feels so wrong, man.

>>4451804
the second we whites acquire control again and push out the other mongrels and the other mongrels no longer have a death grip, I personally will see to it that every last Turkic is wiped out from under heaven.

>>4451804

and this time we aren't stopping you guys, because honestly, it wasn't worth it.

godspeed

>>4451804
While I prefer to border Turkey than Germany, Czech Rep. and Slovakia, leave Hungary alone, okay?

>>4451804
lol

>>4451804
The Sick Man on the Bosporus has died along time ago. Deal with it.

Pole here.
Why should we take it back? It was underdeveloped and really not worth the trouble.

>>4452234
idiot or troll u decide

>mfw I'm a polfag and don't give a fuck about lwów
>mfw I'm posting in a troll thread and bumping it
>mfw I'm being a newfag and no one can stop me

>>polfag and don't give a fuck about lwów

Stalin neutered you good

>>4453874

he couldn't he was dead for at least 30 years when I was born. u mad?

ukraine is a massive sihthole, poland is much better. Ukraine is irradiated wasteland and number one prostitute producer for turk ape

Balta should be givin to Romania, it was the fucking capital of the Moldavian ASSR for god's sakes

>>4453896
only when your return Transylvania

>>4451804
Dat huge amounts of Germans.

>>4454094
how bad does your mongol butt hurt right about now ?

>>4453882
>number one prostitute producer
An important and valuable industry.

We should liberate them.

USA

>>4454094

>wants the Ardeal back
>Butthurt Mongol scum is lucky they even still have Debreţin like we were supposed to after we raped your ass

What r u sayin dude? Transylvania was given back in 1918...

If we wanted we would have occupied Hungary twice in the XXth century(WWI & WWII) but who the fuck needs your shitty steppefags
Romania va fute in cur de bozgor nespalati!!!