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    118 KB Anonymous ## Mod 08/11/11(Thu)22:56 No.4173092 sticky  
    New UK looting sticky. As usual, be excellent to each other.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)22:56 No.4173096
    Fuck you.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)22:57 No.4173103
    Rioting? What rioting?

    Also, are we allowed to talk about more current affairs/politics now, provided they're international?

    Though really, this shit is just out and out news.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)22:58 No.4173104
    Did this shit get worse?
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)22:58 No.4173105
    >UK
    >not shit tier
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)22:58 No.4173106
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    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)22:58 No.4173107
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    MOROCCO IS WHITE!!!
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)22:58 No.4173111
    What the fuck are they even doing.


    These so-called "riots" is just about looting and sacking. Welcome back to the Medieval ages, UK.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)22:58 No.4173112
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    oh yeay
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)22:58 No.4173113
    Go post more Girl's Generation you stupid Korean dog eater Japanese hater.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)22:58 No.4173117
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    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)22:59 No.4173119
    >>4173097

    haha fucking fascists
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:00 No.4173127
    >>4173097

    >when arabs do it
    >dictatorr!
    >when brits do it
    >we protecting ourselves
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:00 No.4173129
    When do they start public hangings and wheel out the guillotine?

    ...Or at least, when do they cut convicted looters off the dole?
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:01 No.4173134
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    Hey big bro, what's new?
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:01 No.4173135
    It's funny how we aren't able to discuss some news or global events on /int/ while we have been doing it ever since the creation of this board.


    So, we get the opportunity of discussing an international event while not getting banned? Hooray...


    Mod, you should define what the fuck is /nevv/shit. You are killing /int/.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:02 No.4173137
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    I sure am grateful to the mod that made these stickies. It's nice that we can discuss genuine, true international current events now. A breath of fresh air, and sensible.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:03 No.4173155
    so is this shit still going on or what? Any more developments?
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:04 No.4173156
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    I vote England be officially an African nation.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:04 No.4173163
    >>4173135
    / n e v v/ shit is when you disagree with a liberal/lefty he whines to the mod and the mod is actually there.

    Also propagating n e ws because lefties/libs hate the truth.
    Why do you think Cameron is trying to cut communications.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:06 No.4173174
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    BE EXCELLENT TO EACH OTHER, THE MOD SAID.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:06 No.4173177
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    isn't this shit over yet?
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:08 No.4173189
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    So, did England call in an elite pair of fighters to clean up the streets yet?
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:09 No.4173196
    >>4173137
    we do that anyway, what is nice is we don't have to do it across 27 haphazard topics some of which spontaneously get deleted while 1-2 post nonthreads that are semirelated continue to pop up and flood out all the actual threads
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:09 No.4173198
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    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:14 No.4173233
    >>4173163
    >HURR everything is a left wing conspiracy.

    I've had left wing opnions get banned just as much, it's not a matter of left/right, it's a matter of whatever the "newshit" bot happens to report.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:15 No.4173241
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    How's that multiculturalism working out for ya?
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:15 No.4173242
    first
    >first world of the third world
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:17 No.4173250
    Why do we need a new one? Riots are over lol. This isn't France where the president lets people riot for a whole month.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:18 No.4173258
    >>4173163
    butthurt and insane ronpaulette detected.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:20 No.4173271
    >>4173233
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyzbZrUdfEg&feature=player_embedded%22

    Watch this and say there isnt a leftwing conspiracy to silence people.
    Its basically "shut up" if you are going to draw attention to the failure of multiculturalism.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:22 No.4173283
    >>4173258
    Its funny you fuckers are so stupid. Critisie lefty/lib/commies and they start coming out of the wood work. Oh shit i said commies here come the commies that aren't really commies they just feel the need to passionately defend commies.
    /facepalm.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:24 No.4173292
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    >>4173283
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:24 No.4173295
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    You know what the problem is?

    The British Politicians are making it worse by calling the looters; 'youths.' It's only disenfranchising the young people who did not loot and encouraging them to do so, by vilifying them and their age group.

    In America, we don't say 'Muslim Terrorist' we say 'Terrorist' by attaching a negative connotation to a certain group, you only cause more division and support for the negative from the group you vilify!

    If anything the British Politicians and Media are blaming the youths because it's easy, because most of them have no political power, because, bluntly put. Britian always blames the young and upcomers because the old man on the tv knows his youth is gone and life is almost over. It''s just one last act of spite against those who can be successful.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:28 No.4173317
    >>4173271
    I don't give two shits about one fucking TV interview with a moron, BY a moron. It's not a fucking conspiracy, the interviewer was just retarded and pushing their own line.

    Even then, it has fucking nothing to do with my previous post.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:30 No.4173326
    >>4173317
    you need to calm down. The guy didn't look or sound like a moron. You are a dipshit that is wrong.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:32 No.4173335
    >>4173097
    is britain's response to fucking EVERYTHING BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN?

    Jesus fucking christ, first the handguns, then the semi-autos, then the knives, then the fucking baseball bats people are buying to defend against the looters, which are now banned, and now fucking twitter?

    Seriously, what the fuck? Someone explain the british mindset to me, because I can't figure this BAN BAN BAN attitude. What the fuck?
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:32 No.4173341
    >>4173295

    That's because they are 'youths'. I'm certainly not seeing scores of middle-aged men with beer guts running out of a Foot Locker after they smash the glass.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:32 No.4173342
    >>4173326
    Wrong for not jumping to the conclusion that something is a conspiracy because of ONE person's opinion?
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:33 No.4173344
    >>4173317
    furhtermore that is just one example of countless interviews that have gone pear shaped during these riots.
    The BBC , Sky etc can't keep the people to their "script" so there are all these awkward interviews happening.
    People say 200 blacks ransacked their shop. The journos aren't able to cope with this because they have a derective to mitigate the focus on blacks and put the blame on whites.
    Its. a . fucking . joke.
    and really obvious.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:34 No.4173349
    >>4173335
    >Implying we need guns

    Americans, you are not welcome here.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:35 No.4173356
    >>4173349
    The brits need featherdusters to tickle the yobs into submission.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:36 No.4173357
    >>4173349
    I'm not implying you need guns. I'm implying you can't make something not exist by banning it.

    Hell, at least here if someone was trying to loot my shit or kill my family, I'd be justfied in putting more scumbags in the ground.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:36 No.4173359
    >>4173349
    >implying you don't

    I'm pretty sure the riot would have ended hours after looting began if individuals could defend themselves against the collective.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:37 No.4173370
    >>4173349
    I'll be laughing cleaning one of my 7 guns while your capitol burns.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:38 No.4173375
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    What we can expect from this riot

    - Looser laws on self defence, He's already loosened them up once in the past several weeks and now he'll be forced to make them looser. A petition that already has a large number of signatures is going round to make self defence in Britain like it is in a Castle Doctrine state. (Castle Doctrine is part of English common law and it's stupid to not have it in place)

    - Looser gun laws, armbritain.co.uk is already jumping all over this as an example of why we need guns for self defence. The government has already recognized it will be discussing the handgun ban as it seems the ban has not stopped crime.

    - Rioters to be charged as adults

    - Downplaying human rights of rioters during riots, government has been highly criticised for being too soft on crime
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:39 No.4173377
    >>4173356
    The brits need Mary Poppins to save them.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:39 No.4173379
    >>4173349
    I'll go back to polishing my AR, while you can go back to cutting your food with spoons.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:39 No.4173380
    >>4173344
    Fucking hell, that's bullshit and if you weren't a fucking blind bigot you might have seen that.

    Fact is, you're determined that things are how you WANT them to be, even though that's not the case at all. The BBC's actually been retardedly right wing over this shit, I COULD say that they've been determined to push people into supporting the use of Water cannon, but I'm not going to, as it's not a fucking conspiracy.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:40 No.4173388
    >>4173380
    Your rehashed rant is like every other lib turd rant before him. Srsly you are an idiot and the true bigot.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:40 No.4173390
    >>4173375
    You can't expect ANY of those, you dumb fuck.

    Also, it's a good thing that we aren't seeing them.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:41 No.4173392
    >>4173380
    >BBC
    >rightwing

    hahaha oh god.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:42 No.4173397
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/11/london-riots-davidcameron

    >> Russell Brand
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:42 No.4173398
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    I am so glad we have CCTV everywhere in Britain.
    Riots in large cities are difficult to predict. They could happen anytime anywhere. This was not the first time a riot has happened in the UK and most certainly won't be the last. The same can be said for every European country.

    But we have an advantage: our CCTV images helped the police to capture hundreds of rioters within a few days, and many more are bound to be captured. If we didn't have all those footages, the riots would have gone on for much longer perhaps several wees as in France, because the police wouldn't have the means to arrest the most violent rioters.
    Arresting someone WHILE a riot is going on can be tricky, as the police is more concernted with confining the crowd than carrying out arrests. The most effective way is to bring the situation under control, wait for rioters to go home (they are humans too and need to eat and sleep) and then arrest them there, while they are alone and defenseless.

    Over 1,100 people have been arrested already because of these riots, while in most other countries, the police only arrests a few dozens while the rest are allowed to stay free and riot again and again and again.

    Seriously you guys, CCTV ftw.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:42 No.4173400
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    >>4173390

    Nope we're getting them all and it will be glorious
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:43 No.4173403
    >>4173392
    Fun fact: People on the left find the BBC right wing. People on the right find them left wing.

    I wonder, could it possibly be that they're BALANCED?! No, can't be.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:43 No.4173408
    >>4173375
    If anything, all you can expect from your failure of a nanny state, is that there will be tighter restrictions on everything, people will be even LESS able to defend themselves, and there will be at least 5 bans on everything from baseball bats to wearing clothes that makes you look dangerous.

    You idiots lost your guns, your knives, and now baseball bats and cricket bats, along with the right to defend yourselves, and you'll never get them back.

    America sure as fuck isn't perfect, and our freedoms may be eroded more every day by corrupt politicians, but at least we haven't sunk as far as you guys.

    Just trade in the rest of your liberty for more security.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:46 No.4173420
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    >>4173408

    All those things are Labour related.

    Cameron is our conservative right wing hero. From conversations I've had with my MP who has been pushing legal handguns for some time the conservative government know that the ban doesn't work they just need some way to unban them without bleeding heart liberal mothers menstruating everywhere.

    This riot and the Olympics is just what the doctor ordered.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:47 No.4173423
    >>4173400
    >Implying full self defence is a good thing (hurr durr we'll kill people to be safe!)
    >Implying any gun law bills would EVER be passed in parliament
    >Implying they're being charged as adults (and implying that's a good thing)
    >Implying any western governments have the power to ignore human rights
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:47 No.4173425
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    >>4173398

    I hafta admit- it does seem like an asset. If it's public space, I guess I dont see the harm. And it sure does sound like it was a big help. Kudos to everyone who used their phone cams and he web to help round up these low-lifes. And like Canada, it's warming and encouraging to see citizens coming together to help each other and clean up.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:48 No.4173431
    >>4173400
    See
    >>4173408

    Come on, you guys already banned buying bats and batons from amazon because your politicians are afraid of "vigilantism" aka defending your property and family from roving bands of nignogs.

    One of the first posts ITT is about a possible twitter ban of all things.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:50 No.4173440
    >>4173420
    >Cameron
    >Good at ANYTHING

    He's fucked up with the Coulson thing, he's fucked up with the cuts, he's fucked up in hiring the worst chancellor we've had in YEARS, he's fucked up by dumbing down parliamentary debate massively NEVER actually saying anything other than "Labour's fault!".

    The only thing he's done WELL is making it seem as if the Lib Dems are to blame for everything.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:50 No.4173447
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    The lower classes are being strangled, the middle class is disappearing (or living on credit) all over the Western world and yet you idiots still buy the 'mindless thuggery' bullshit and turn it into a debate about hand gun ownership.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:50 No.4173449
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    >>4173423

    > implying the right to kill dangerous intruders shouldn't be a right of every Englishman as written in English common law
    > implying they're not loosening gun laws already by issuing section 7 and section 5 FACs for certain people to own handguns (sport shooters who are really into their sport)
    > Implying an 11 year old hasn't gone down for looting after his mother dragged him to the police station herself
    > Implying spraying rioters with water cannons and shooting them with rubber bullets is ignoring their human rights
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:52 No.4173451
    >>4173425
    >cctv
    >asset

    Choose one. I'm all for capturing the junglebunnies responsible for the riots, but public surveillance is taking it too far. Britain has more surveillance cameras than modern day china, and has a tiny fraction of the population.

    That's just disturbing. Big brother, ALWAYS watching.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:53 No.4173452
    >>4173451

    You realise people in the street can see you right? You're not invisible. Someone is always watching you.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:53 No.4173453
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    >>4173431

    I don't understand- why buy a bat? cant they improvise? Yu can find anything you need na hardware store...

    Just sayin,..
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:53 No.4173456
    >>4173431
    I don't mind if they shut down twitter in cases where it is being used to organize criminal activities.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:53 No.4173457
    >>4173431
    Want to know why vigilatism is a bad thing?

    It leads to shit EXACTLY like what you just said. Racists killing/beating whoever they fancy, Gang members killing/beating whoever they fancy, ANY fuck who fancies a bash can kill/beat/maim/do whatever.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:54 No.4173459
    >>4173457
    but its ok when sikhs and muslims do it. Gotcha.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:54 No.4173460
    >>4173451
    It were those cameras that allowed the police to arrest criminals and bring the situation under control in within 4 days.
    If you look at some of the most recent riots in Europe, they can go on for weeks.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:55 No.4173462
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    >>4173453

    I don't buy the story for one second. Yesterday I purchased a machete from http://www.coldsteel-uk.com/ and a crossbow from http://www.crossbows4u.co.uk/ all via mail order without encountering the slightest bit of resistance except a pop up box asking me if I was 18.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:56 No.4173467
    >>4173456
    And how do you judge that?

    >Discussing piracy
    >Twitter banned and blocked
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:56 No.4173468
    >>4173459
    >sikhs
    >gang violence
    Pick one. Sikhs are the mormons of Asia.

    Also, not all muslims are the same. Pakis muslims are violent, Indian muslims are engineering nerds.
    You are most likely retarded.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:56 No.4173470
    >>4173457
    What the fuck are you talking about? It's not vigilantism when a group of turkish shop keepers forms a wall of men wielding bats, to prevent thugs and chavs from breaking into their stores and ruining their livelyhood.

    You didn't see any "vigilante" killings with the LA riots, just korean shop keepers protecting their store from looters.

    That's it, just buy into the government's story,
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:57 No.4173471
    >not looting the Apple Store
    WHY
    >> anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:57 No.4173472
    Richard Mannington Bowes, 68, who was set upon as he tried to stamp out a fire during riots in Ealing, west London, has died, Scotland Yard has confirmed.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:57 No.4173473
    >>4173468
    You said vigilantism. Which is what sikhs are doing. You are an idiot, good day.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:57 No.4173474
    >>4173471

    > Wanting apple products
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:58 No.4173476
    >>4173459
    No. It's not ok when fucking ANYONE does it you dumb fuck, where did I say it was ok for certain people?
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:58 No.4173479
    >>4173467
    I suggest you read again the PM's words. If you can't understand why what he said doesn't apply to the "discussion of piracy" you should read some law books before defecating through your mouth.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:59 No.4173481
    >encourage riots throughout arab world
    >get annoyed when it happens on your doorstep
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    >>4173451


    Well, Idt anyone would bother actually watching all those cameras What harm it would do. Stores have security anyways, so why not have some in the street where the violent crime is. What do I care if some bored cop is watching me? I figure, like store security, no one watches it unless they think something is going on, or just watch the tape if something happened. They seem to actually do more good than any harm they ever could, private or government run, phone cams or regular store cams.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:59 No.4173484
    >>4173476
    You just tried to excuse in the last post by saying Sikhs aren't a gang.
    Flipflop some more you pointless cunt.
    >> Anonymous 08/11/11(Thu)23:59 No.4173486
    >>4173473
    Where did anyone say it is OK for sikhs to do vigilantism?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:00 No.4173491
    >>4173470
    Of course it's fucking vigilatism when the turkish shop owners do that. If you're enforcing the law as a citizen, it's vigilantism.

    Don't fucking imply I agree with the fucking government.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:01 No.4173494
    >>4173484
    I didn't write that post, dumbfuck.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:02 No.4173495
    >>4173494
    sure you didn't
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:02 No.4173496
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    Cameron will make this country great again you just have to belieeeeeeeve.

    Because he's the hero Britain deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not the hero. He's a silent guardian, watchful protector. A conservative Prime Minister."


    Also my fellow Britfriends need to stop being such liberal hippies. Cameron is disappoint.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:03 No.4173498
    >>4173484
    You said it was ok when sikhs do it as in beating other people up. You are retarded. Nobody ever said it was OK, what we said is that a CONSEQUENCE of vigilantism is people using the opportunity to attack whoever they want.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:03 No.4173501
    >>4173495
    No, I fucking didn't. Why would I lie? Jesus fucking christ you people.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:04 No.4173505
    Shit britfails, you guys actually enjoy your police run nanny-state.

    I'm gonna go buy ammo and watch london burn I'm out.
    >> anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:04 No.4173507
    >>4173473

    "Because they are the heroes England deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt them, because they can take it. Because they're not the heroes. They are silent guardians, watchful protectors. They're Dark Knights."
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:05 No.4173511
    >>4173505
    >one of the lowest murder rates in the world.

    u mad amerifat?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:07 No.4173515
    >>4173511
    >one of the smallest populations in the world
    >highest violent crime rate in all of Europe

    Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:10 No.4173518
    >>4173515

    > 60 million
    > lol population

    wat
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    >>4173505

    I assure you not every British person is a bleeding heart liberal.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:11 No.4173528
    ITT: Blame everyone but the worthless welfare sacks who live in a fantasy world where they're the boss.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:11 No.4173532
    >>4173511
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5712573/UK-is-violent-crime-capital-of-Europe.h
    tml

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Afric
    a-U-S.html

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23714675-uk-has-worst-violent-crime-rate-in-europe.do

    Not mad man, just disappointed.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:12 No.4173533
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    >>4173515
    >one of the smallest populations in the world
    Doesn't understand the meaning of "rate" and thinks population is relevant in this discussion

    >highest violent crime rate in all of Europe
    Doesn't understad the definition of violent crime and how such crimes are reported varies greatly between countries and therefore the most reliable way of measuring how violent a society is is by looking at the homicide rate as homicide is the same pretty much anywhere in the world and rarely goes unreported.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:12 No.4173535
    > Riots ended last night
    > Still talking about them
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:13 No.4173540
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    >>4173532

    http://armbritain.com

    I'll sort out these yobbish oinks
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:14 No.4173543
    >>4173527
    I don't get that shit, and never will. Why is being a liberal (and, consequently, tolerant and fucking NICE to people) seen as a bad thing, and dicking people over in the name of profits seen as a good thing?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:17 No.4173550
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    >>4173543

    Because Liberalism in Europe is such a joke.

    It's only supporters are hippie college students that don't know how the world works and thinks that talking to the murderer in his home will stop him.

    Bullets work better.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:20 No.4173558
    >>4173550
    That's not an answer AT ALL.

    Also, your idol is retarded, bro. I've literally met NOBODY that likes Cameron, even the super right wing people I know.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:22 No.4173563
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    >>4173558

    The only people that dislike Cameron are hippies and poor people you should get some friends who aren't chavs.

    Fellow British people should read this http://www.britainneedsguns.co.uk/gunmythspa1.htm
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:26 No.4173573
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    >>4173563
    I dislike Cameron because he isn't conservative enough.
    The only promise he has fulfilled so far were spenging cuts (including cuts to the fucking police force!).
    He and the tory MPs still haven't passed a single fucking law promoting more freedoms to the individual or repealing any laws that are an attack on such freedoms up untill now.

    I want to believe, I seriously do, but the guy seems like a pussy to me.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:26 No.4173574
    >>4173563
    Given that Cameron’s approval rating is minus 14, I don't think that's actually the case.
    >> TheCatch 08/12/11(Fri)00:28 No.4173579
    Awww, whassamattah?

    Got hot for you mod?

    Fuck you, start all the new threads you want. We're onto you now, bitch.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:29 No.4173582
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    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:29 No.4173583
    >>4173573
    This is the opinion I've seen of most conservatives.

    Pretty much all of the left wing people I know hate him (obviously), but lots of conservatives dislike him too. He's a SHIT PM.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:32 No.4173592
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    >>4173573

    You have to believe.

    He's already loosened up self defence laws which were later tested a few weeks ago on two separate occasions where the victim was not charged for stabbing to death an intruder in his home.

    He just has to keep those mothers from menstruating everywhere and is afraid of passing the tough bills (Castle doctrine, reverse of 1997 gun act etc) but within the next year it's coming up in parliament. He's also got the Liberals trying to undo everything he's trying to do.

    You can do your part too:

    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/172
    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/463

    He needs to be shown he can pass the bills not everyone will like.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:38 No.4173604
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    >>4173592
    >Number of signatures:
    >37

    I know it's only a few days old, but I don't see that getting to 100,000.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:38 No.4173605
    The class war has begun.

    Chicago ran the Olympics out of their city for this exact reason: you won't give us schools, hospitals, social benefits, but you're going to spend billions on sports for the worlds' elites, which we won't even see?

    Burn it.

    You think you can preach austerity under the guise of a coming circus for the aristocrats of the world? Yeah, right.

    Your tourist appeal is in the toilet already. If the looters are bashing plate glass for Xboxes, guess what they'll do to your looters?!

    Good luck getting out.

    P.S.: You won't.
    >> sage sage 08/12/11(Fri)00:38 No.4173606
    bump
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:39 No.4173609
    >>4173592
    You sound like a 60 year old shut in.

    Your God is mortal, and has done literally nothing other than fuck up and act like a petty moron.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:39 No.4173610
    guess what they'll do to your tourists?*
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:40 No.4173611
    >>4173605

    Did you have fun typing that from the comfort of your mothers house on your expensive PC you got for you last birthday?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:41 No.4173615
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    >>4173588
    >>4173588
    >>4173588
    >>4173588
    >>4173588
    >>4173588
    >>4173588
    >>4173588
    >>4173588
    >>4173588
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    >>4173588
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    >>4173588
    >>4173588
    >>4173588
    >>4173588
    >>4173588
    >>4173588

    Don´t worry thirdworld shithole England,
    Iran is going to send forces to help you.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:44 No.4173621
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    >>4173604

    My petition made on a separate site has almost 2,000 signatures. But I can't change the text so can't get everyone to move to government petition site which is better as if it gets 100,000 signatures it HAS to be discussed.

    I've been given conformation that the government has been looking at gun laws for a while and has comprised a report outlining the facts and figures of amount of violent crime commit vs amount of guns (which we all know is going to say that as guns went down crime went up)

    However just as they were about to discuss this the Whitehaven shooting happened and the discussion was paused for 2 years until the public calmed down.

    tl;dr pistols are up on the high shelf we have to prove we can play nice for a few years.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:44 No.4173623
    Does anyone else feel like London is a seperate country to the rest of the UK?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:46 No.4173627
    >>4173615
    Iran ALWAYS does that shit. Never worked out why.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:46 No.4173630
    >>4173623

    A much richer successful one?

    Yes.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:46 No.4173632
    Diversion attempts from the class war:

    1. make it a race war
    2. vilify the looters are petty thieves
    3. act like it's an isolated incident
    4. act like you're not going to be affected, ever.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:47 No.4173636
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    >>4173375
    >>4173400
    >>4173420
    >>4173449
    >>4173496
    >>4173527
    >>4173540
    >>4173550
    >>4173563
    >>4173592
    >>4173621


    ARRRRRGH! DAVE SMASH!
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:47 No.4173637
    >>4173615

    I for one welcome out Iranian overlords
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:47 No.4173638
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    >>4173621
    Do you literally have a hard drive full of pictures of David fucking Cameron?

    I have a picture too!
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:48 No.4173639
    >>4173621
    Source or GTFO
    Source or GTFO
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    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:48 No.4173640
    >>4173630
    No, culturally separate from other cities in the UK.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:50 No.4173647
    So...are people still rioting or what?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:52 No.4173654
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    >>4173639

    http://www.shootingtimes.co.uk/news/529341/Government_delay_over_firearms_control.html

    Written evidence that it's being discussed.: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmselect/cmhaff/447/447vw01.htm

    The only other evidence I have is word of mouth from MPs
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:53 No.4173660
    >>4173654
    Being discussed=/=being considered in ANY way.

    You have no source. At all.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:55 No.4173665
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    >>4173660

    At least they don't consider it a closed book.
    Are you afraid the big bad guns will come get you?

    You know there are several ways to own handguns legally already right?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)00:56 No.4173668
    >>4173380
    If the faggy police had used a water cannon andor rubber bullets on the first day, none of the following riots would of ensued. Saving millions of pounds,
    I actually think the police played this like a fiddle. Oh, you gonna cut police funding, I'm going to stop the next riot I see, Yeah right. watch your ghettos burn
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)01:12 No.4173699
    The issue of the riots is overblown.

    The fundamental issue is that the British police did not restore order after day one. Irrational mobs looting makes sense. It happens after sporting events, protests or whatever. If they get out of hand however, all responsibility of damage falls to the local government.

    Chaos breeds chaos. People started looting after they realized the police weren't doing anything. Everyone should stop giving a fuck on who the rioters are, and instead who commanded the police. It's a disgrace.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)01:16 No.4173713
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    The police aren't your nanny they can't do everything for you.
    USA, Switzerland and the Czech Republic are the only countries in the world that recognise this.

    Which areas were the ones spared from rioting? The areas where normal citizens came out with whatever they could find to defend their homes and businesses.

    Guns would make this easier.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)01:17 No.4173717
    >>4173709
    >implying that gun laws have anything to do with the riots

    stop spreading your pro-gun agenda. i know it makes a lot of sense, but this isnt the right place.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)01:25 No.4173738
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    >Europe

    In wake of riots, British PM proposes social media ban

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/social.media/08/11/london.riots.social.media/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)01:25 No.4173741
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    >>4173717

    > i know it makes a lot of sense
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)01:30 No.4173753
    >>4173738

    Everyone PROPOSES insane bans.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/judge-calls-for-ban-on-hammers-after-bashing-death-of-
    johnathan-thurstons-uncle-richard-saunders/story-e6freoof-1226070986638

    http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2011/02/22/australia-bans-nature/

    Then they get thrown out.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)01:45 No.4173781
    YOU KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD BAN WE SHOULD BAN / N E W /.... OH WAIT .
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)01:47 No.4173783
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    >>4173741

    So what are your problems with my desires?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)01:59 No.4173816
    >riot in canada over a ball game
    >riots in england over nothing

    stay classy, royalty dick suckers.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)02:16 No.4173878
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    >>4173816
    >Republicans
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)02:19 No.4173890
    >>4173878
    no, i just dont think a senile old lady is the best role model/person to rule the country. actually dont know my political side, but guns are ok.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)02:23 No.4173908
    >>4173890

    >Implying the queen runs anything
    >Implying she isn't a symbol of national and commonwealth unity
    >Implying you'd understand.
    >> AryanZealot 08/12/11(Fri)02:24 No.4173912
    Rise of the Planet of the Apes! Whats it like to live in the Kingdom of NlGGERDOM
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)02:38 No.4173971
    >>4173910
    >>4173908
    ooh yeah, and im sure thats working out great for your country right now.
    td.lr there's that, but then your country is having riots, so fuck you.
    >> AryanZealot !mnTrFdVIZ2 08/12/11(Fri)02:40 No.4173983
    >>4173971UK-Third world Islamic Shithole, not fucking white.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)02:41 No.4173989
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    >>4173271
    >>4173271
    >>4173271
    DUHHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHU. That was awkward.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)02:42 No.4173996
    >>4173971

    >Implying a pissed of minority represents the country
    >Implying most people are mad as fuck at the rioters
    >Implying implications
    >> AryanZealot !mnTrFdVIZ2 08/12/11(Fri)02:44 No.4174008
    >>4173996
    Implying your not a Autistic liberal, with faggot values and mannerisms
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)02:45 No.4174025
    >>4173983
    >>4173996
    hey, so how about them riots going on, huh?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)02:48 No.4174037
    >>4174008

    What kind of liberal are you talking about?

    I believe the people doing the rioting are a gangrenous finger on the hand of society and should but lined up and shot so it never causes any problems again.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)02:52 No.4174053
    To all you rioters in the UK, remember two things:

    1) They can't arrest all of you.

    2) The passion of destruction is a creative joy.
    >> AryanZealot !mnTrFdVIZ2 08/12/11(Fri)02:53 No.4174059
    >>4174037
    Yeah if they ever have those medical lines I will be sure to promote you to penis inspection duty.

    Subhuman
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)03:08 No.4174111
    >>4174053

    They can take away all of your benfits though. Enjoy starvation.
    >> AryanZealot !mnTrFdVIZ2 08/12/11(Fri)03:09 No.4174115
    >>4174111
    I agree pput them in work camps, they are the property of the state of they live off welfare. My roads need more tar, maybe we can scrape it off there backs as well.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)03:13 No.4174132
    >>4174115

    Come back when you learn basic grammar.
    >> AryanZealot !mnTrFdVIZ2 08/12/11(Fri)03:16 No.4174142
    >>4174132 Suck a cock, NEGROlD
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)03:28 No.4174182
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    How's that economy, US?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)03:31 No.4174190
    You know what i like?

    The media branded the riots the "London Riots", then when it started happening in Manchester and Birmingham they became the "UK Riots", but something happened, i'm not quite sure, but it was renmaed the "English Riots" by the media.

    I welcome this change, as no riots happened in scotland wales or nothern ireland
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)03:37 No.4174209
    >>4174190
    Thats exactly why they did it to not offend the other British. PC britian strikes again. Time to give those rioters some hot meals and icecream.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)03:42 No.4174224
    >>4174209
    The BBC had a TV crew in Edinburgh and the american tourists were interviewed and they were all

    "Hurr well y'all, well all feel safe here. We love Scaaatllaaaand, but England y'all crazy we're not going down there"

    And i could picture Alex Salmonds smug face.

    Mr Salmond told the BBC his administration in Edinburgh remains vigilant in case the rioting and lootings spreads north of the Border and has prepared for “every eventuality”.

    But he continued: "We know we have a different society in Scotland. One of my frustrations yesterday was to see the events being described as riots in the UK.

    "Until such time we do have a riot in Scotland, what we are seeing are riots in London and across English cities. It is actually unhelpful to see them inaccurately presented because one of the dangers we face in Scotland is copycat action."
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)03:50 No.4174255
    did the bbc stop streaming recently?, anyone have a live stream of this going on ?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)03:51 No.4174264
    The same thing happens in Glasgow every Friday night.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)03:53 No.4174272
    anyone else disappointed that the riots aren't going on anymore? was free entertainment for a few days
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)04:10 No.4174320
    >>4174272
    people ran out of things to loot.
    >> AryanZealot !mnTrFdVIZ2 08/12/11(Fri)04:12 No.4174332
    Round them up and Hang'em high
    >> Mad Scientist Hououin Kyouma !VFku6Ixxx. 08/12/11(Fri)04:26 No.4174384
    Second English Civil War please
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)04:33 No.4174411
    >>4174384
    Fuck yes.... would be awesome seeing them fuck each other up.

    Only the english would be so stupid to fuck their own in a time like this.
    >> Mad Scientist Hououin Kyouma !VFku6Ixxx. 08/12/11(Fri)04:36 No.4174419
    >>4174411

    It wouldn't be declared a Civil War until Cameron brings the army in to deal with them, correct? It seems to be dying down but living during a Civil War happening in England would be pretty interesting.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)04:36 No.4174420
    IQ is heritable, as shown by twin studies and now this: http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2011/08/intelligence-heritable-and-polygenic.html

    These are underclass riots. A low-IQ and low-impulse-control demographic group + a global economy that has little to no use for their labor + a police force that's completely handcuffed by political correctness and potential lawsuits = uk riots.
    >> Mad Scientist Hououin Kyouma !VFku6Ixxx. 08/12/11(Fri)04:39 No.4174436
    >>4174420

    And I wonder why the Queen or the other Royals haven't said anything yet. It does seem a bit strange.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)04:42 No.4174450
    >>4174436

    They're pussies, that's what they are. I'm guessing they're shaking in their boots, who knows, they might turn out to be another house of romanov
    >> Mad Scientist Hououin Kyouma !VFku6Ixxx. 08/12/11(Fri)04:45 No.4174459
    >>4174450

    My face when the England Riots will essentially be our equivalent to the Russian Revolution.

    CAN NOT UNSEE!!!
    >> AryanZealot !mnTrFdVIZ2 08/12/11(Fri)04:53 No.4174488
    Fuck off chinko, if that was the case all your assets would be mine, then I would murder your family
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)04:59 No.4174510
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW0356brnrE&feature=topvideos_people
    >> Mad Scientist Hououin Kyouma !VFku6Ixxx. 08/12/11(Fri)05:03 No.4174531
    >>4174488

    typical internet tough guy
    >> AryanZealot !mnTrFdVIZ2 08/12/11(Fri)05:09 No.4174551
    >>4174531
    Typical limpwristed Chinko communist
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)05:18 No.4174572
    >>4173097

    Holy fuck they're not saying LETS BAN FACEBOOK AND TWITTER, they're discussing ways to limit or ban known criminals and those inciting criminal behaviour, not the whole fucking country.

    Fuck you are stupid.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)05:23 No.4174589
    So have all those chavs bragging about looting on twitter and facebook been arrested yet?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)05:30 No.4174606
    >>4174420
    >These are underclass riots.
    That's funny because a number of the looters have been from wealthy parts of London.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)05:38 No.4174623
    Despite this the UK is becoming an economics safe haven due to Camerons cuts, and one of the very few populations where the majority are in favour of cuts:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9561000/9561575.stm

    Sadly it appears France may be downgraded unless their people become more accepting of cuts.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)05:40 No.4174625
    >>4174224
    I really hate Salmond. He is always so blatantly anti-English.
    >We have a different society in Scotland
    For the past 300 or 400 years depending on whether you go on the personal union or the Act of Union we have been pretty much the same country.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)05:42 No.4174632
    >>4174625

    Don't worry, wait until his referendum fails miserably (Olympics will strengthen national unity massively, only butthurt scottish nationalists care about Team GB and no team scotland), about 30% of scots support independence and as Cameron has very cleverly put the options on any future referendum to be More powers/independence rather than No independence/Independence Salmond will end his term and never be seen again and the SNP will fade into their 1970's position.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)05:43 No.4174636
    >>4174632
    I hope so. If Scotland leaves the union it's game over for the United Kingdom.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)05:44 No.4174638
    >>4174636

    Exactly why it wouldn't happen.

    Imagine ANY party going up against Tory+Labour+Libdem+UKIP(Small but rich) funds.

    The SNP simply doesn't have the money nor the support to counter such an anti-independence campaign.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)05:48 No.4174644
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    >>4174638
    You have a good point. All the major parties will bomb Scotland with a huge Unionist campaign, especially the Conservatives.
    Also

    >Welsh Independence
    When will they remember that they haven't been their own nation since the 13th Century and for all intents and purposes they are basically England.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)05:50 No.4174648
    >>4174644

    I live in Wales.

    But I'm English and I've been keeping an eye on them and believe me none of them want it. Some hate England but the majority would cheer if England won the world cup or something. I'd say independence is about 10-20% here.

    The problem is in Wales is the nationalist party is exactly the same as Labour. And in the most recent welsh election Labour managed to go from a coalition with the nationalists to a minority government.

    As for NI, well, they are a drain anyway, I'd say keep them just for the GDP increase...
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)06:21 No.4174711
    It's gonna be Friday night in England soon....will the riots start again?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)06:29 No.4174729
    >>4173335
    >then the fucking baseball bats people are buying to defend against the looters

    THOSE ARE NOT BANNED, YOU FUCKING IDIOT
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)06:32 No.4174734
    >>4173451
    >Britain has more surveillance cameras than modern day china

    You, er, got a sauce for that mate?

    Because I think you're more full of shit than a septic tank.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)06:33 No.4174738
    >>4174734

    He's counting those in private ownership, and claiming it's a government police state. Yawn.
    >> Mad Scientist Hououin Kyouma !VFku6Ixxx. 08/12/11(Fri)06:42 No.4174757
    >>4174711

    No doubt, tonight is when all the shitheads go out to drink with that in them another riot will almost seem inevitable.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)06:42 No.4174758
    >>4174757

    I'd be more worried about football starting up agian
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)06:58 No.4174791
    So some 18yr old girl is being charged with instigating a riot under the Serious Crimes Act. Apparently, she encouraged people to riot using her blackberry.

    Does this mean just suggesting doing something illegal is against the law in the UK? Britfags, educate me.

    Captcha: ouseei Laws
    >> Mad Scientist Hououin Kyouma !VFku6Ixxx. 08/12/11(Fri)07:03 No.4174801
    >>4174758

    Hold on, the news is currently talking to people who participated in the riots about what they stole. Why the hell aren't they arresting them?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)07:04 No.4174806
    >>4174801

    They are if they have evidence they were involved. Hasn't there been 500+ arrests already?
    >> Mad Scientist Hououin Kyouma !VFku6Ixxx. 08/12/11(Fri)07:05 No.4174810
    >>4174806

    Yeah, but they also mentioned shops they applied to, couldn't they just trace them through their CVs?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)07:08 No.4174817
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    >2011
    >Not making Boris Johnson the God-Mayor of England
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)07:17 No.4174846
    It's so fuckan annoying that all the mass media talk about unidentified "gangs" and forget to mention that responsible for all this shit are nіggеrs.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)07:27 No.4174872
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    How's this for a solution:

    All peoples who participated in the riot and any person found to have been on welfare for greater than 5 years gets castrated (female equivalent if female) and sent to labour camps for a decade where they are expected to work all day carrying out simple tasks which help the economy. They would be provided with the bare minimum of food necessary, a bed, and shelter for that time with a few brief hours of recreation each day. They would be given a basic education to bring up their level of intelligence where possible before being released back into society. Any stepping out of line will be progressively punished (e.g. deprivation of recreation activities, solitary isolation, death penalty).

    This would solve everyone's problems and break the circle of welfare scum who do little more than breed and commit petty crime. It will also teach them to respect the society they live in as well as giving them the ability to contribute to society in a meaningful manner.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)07:29 No.4174879
    >>4174872
    LOL

    in MY dreams..
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)07:31 No.4174885
    >>4174872

    Hear Hear
    >> Mad Scientist Hououin Kyouma !VFku6Ixxx. 08/12/11(Fri)07:35 No.4174898
    It's certainly going to kick off again tonight.

    Cameron should've stopped bluffing and actually used the water canons on Day One. That would've stopped it.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)07:44 No.4174937
    >>4174872
    What, and give up our morals for it? The thing that separates us and them?

    That might be what Britain wants, but if we did that we wouldn't be Britain anymore.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)07:50 No.4174956
    >>4174937

    WELL THEN BRITAIN SUCKS
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)07:55 No.4174971
    >>4174937

    Umm, do you even realize the things ''Great'' Britain did in the days of it's empire building?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)07:56 No.4174976
    >>4174937
    >>4174956
    >>4174971

    And so Britain returned to his old ways of underhanded imperialism
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)07:59 No.4174987
    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/cameron-vows-to-learn-from-scotland-over-riots-1.111721
    0?localLinksEnabled=false

    Looks like David "Call me Dave" Cameron likes the style of policing up north.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)08:13 No.4175051
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    Southall
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)08:24 No.4175088
    >>4175051
    Wattafuk izzat? A sandnіggеr council?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)08:52 No.4175170
    >>4174898
    really? So literally it was only rain suspending play?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)08:54 No.4175175
    >>4175088
    those are sikhs, I thought you now worshiped them on /int/
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)08:55 No.4175178
    >>4174791

    Yep, she had it coming too. I personally have zero tolerance for this kind of shit and everyone involved no matter how small or large should be punished.

    End of story, may it never happen again.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)08:56 No.4175187
    >>4174987

    "Dave" Cameron will profess to like anything that diverts attention away from his uselessness.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)08:59 No.4175193
    >The only people that dislike Cameron are hippies and poor people

    Isn't that like saying the only people who like him are inbreds and lackeys, except dumber?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:00 No.4175198
    >>4174971

    poisoned half of China with opium
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:00 No.4175202
    lern urself up on wat people is finkin
    http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:01 No.4175205
    >>4175198
    Slavery
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:01 No.4175207
    >>4175205

    samefagging
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:02 No.4175209
    >>4175202

    i fink wehn rieters is borned there heds shud be popt liek heds of babey rats
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:02 No.4175210
    >>4175207
    worthless shitposting
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:03 No.4175217
    >>4175210

    >Saging a sticky
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:04 No.4175221
    >Blame everyone but the worthless welfare sacks who live in a fantasy world where they're the boss.

    At least it gets attention off of rotten public institutions.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:06 No.4175230
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    >>4175210
    >Saging a sticky
    >> sage sage 08/12/11(Fri)09:08 No.4175241
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    sage
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:09 No.4175247
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    >>4175241
    Are you saging a sticky?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:09 No.4175248
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    CONGRATULATIONS THIS IS YOUR FUTURE!
    Provided you're not already there, that is.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:12 No.4175264
    >>4174898
    No, they're over, water cannons + plastic bullets at the ready, increased police numbers, thousands already arrested etc.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:15 No.4175280
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    >>4174898

    I can think of no better way to deal with small, fast-moving groups of people than a method designed to work against large static ones.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:20 No.4175297
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    try not be disappointed when the wrongful arrests made in a spirit of trying to appear "tough on cwime" start getting thrown out of court, there's a good chap
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:21 No.4175305
    See, this is why communism wins.
    In a communist regime the police wouldn't hesistate to shoot everyone with live ammo and the riots would be over in a few hours.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:22 No.4175315
    >>4175305
    That's just one of the many reasons communism wins.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:23 No.4175321
    >>4175315
    >>4175305
    Fine, have your smelly communism.
    Say goodbye to your cars, video games, houses, bananas and other luxuries!
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:24 No.4175328
    >>4175305
    I'm not in support of rioters (they're nothing but common thieves), but I'd like to be able to speak out against the government if I need to.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:28 No.4175347
    >>4175315
    Yeah you can teach anyone anything when you hold a gun to their head.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:28 No.4175348
    >>4175323
    does posting propaganda constitute a good argument around here or are you just muddying the debate for fun.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:29 No.4175354
    >>4175328

    Nobody was doing that.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:32 No.4175369
    >>4175354
    Yeah, I know. That's why I said I don't support them...
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:33 No.4175371
    The cause of rioting in the UK is the British government's failing in reasoning with young Brits across the country. These youngsters, from black and working class communities, have legitimate demands to have better representation, better education and health services, better housing, jobs and more and equal opportunities.
    The recent events have made Cameron inept for the job, because of his inability to respond positively to these demands. He viewed his own people as criminals and instead of investing taxpayers money in underfunded areas, he is spending it on waging a savage war on Libyan people. This makes Cameron illegitimate as a ruler, he should step down and let the rebels form a new government.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:33 No.4175374
    >does posting propaganda constitute a good argument around here

    Yes, yes it does.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:38 No.4175397
    unelected government, bent filth, news sockpuppetry. y'know, it takes effort to be even more pathetic than some thieving chavvy kid.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:40 No.4175405
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    >>4175371

    BRITAIN CAN TAKE IT!
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:43 No.4175420
    Why are british policemen so underequipped ?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:44 No.4175422
    >>4175397
    yeah but QUICK LOOK OVER THERE!
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:45 No.4175426
    >>4175420
    slashing of police budgets due to austerity measures, too much bureaucracy and don't forget the speed at which these things popped up.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:47 No.4175441
    >>4175371
    They have equal fucking opportunities. They just don't apply themselves to take seize these opportunities. Unless you're talking about the kind of "equality" that involves dumb-ass lazy shits getting the same jobs as people who apply themselves and study to get high-earning jobs.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:47 No.4175443
    All I hear from Labour is complain that the police budget is being cut so they couldn't afford to crack down harder. Nothing about the causes of this. literally no party in this country represents the interests of working class people.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:49 No.4175450
    >>4175426
    Even in France, with budget cuts, our officers are better trained. Your officers are equipped as May 68. And what an idea to use the bobbies as anti-rioters.I hope these riots will not happen again.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:49 No.4175451
    >>4175443
    Tell a lie. The BNP does on the face of it. That and Labour apparently being left leaning (lol) no wonder this country is sliding to the right
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:51 No.4175460
    Take a look at the polls posted above. Labour are ahead.

    Even after a decade of fucking up, Labour are still more popular than a Tory government after less than a year. Good work, Nasty Party.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:54 No.4175469
    >>4175450
    also the MET has been seriously criticized in recent years of being heavy handed when it came to policing protests using things like kettling and also killing an elderly man for no reason heh
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:56 No.4175482
    >Nothing about the causes of this. literally no party in this country represents the interests of working class people.

    Unless there's a fugitive BNP/EDL subtext to this post it may be the best thing in the thread.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:59 No.4175489
    >>4175460
    That's retarded. People are criticizing the Conservatives too much when all they're trying to do is pick up the pieces as best they can from Labour driving the country into the fucking ground.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)09:59 No.4175491
    >>4175205
    Hey, we were also one of the first to ban it.

    So slavery doesn't count.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:01 No.4175498
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    >>4175469

    and a Brazilian sparks, here seen plotting evilly for the establishment of a British Caliphate
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:01 No.4175501
    >>4175491
    it happened so yes it does.

    >I was in the crowed that stoned your daughter to death but I am the first to appologise and call for remuneration so I'm absolved, right?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:03 No.4175514
    >all they're trying to do is pick up the pieces as best they can from Labour driving the country into the fucking ground.

    That's the stalest, most shagged-out cliche in British politics. Useful as a means of gauging whether the speaker really has any business expecting to be taken seriously though.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:07 No.4175529
    >>4175516
    NIMBYism!? From Middle England!? Why I never!
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:11 No.4175544
    Riot is the language of the unheard.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:12 No.4175552
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    >>4175516

    police an tieves in da street oh yeah
    scarin de nation wid dere guns an ammunition
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:13 No.4175555
    I've been following the riots on a British message board that is for army and ex-army types (a lot of very angry guys right now, but also some very funny humour thrown in).

    One guy piped up with a gem: "Please stop using all this racist language to refer to the rioters. The approved British Army term for n------s is now 'non-reflectives.' Thank you."
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:14 No.4175558
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    we need to get arms and air support for the british rebels so that they can form a new government...the embattled leader Camron has been violating human rights in the country and he must go... oil depos near the fighting could fund the new government...we ask the other nations of europe to quickly recognise the new rebel government so a no fly zone can be established over the UK!
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:14 No.4175561
    >>4174632
    >Olympics will strengthen national unity massively

    Nope. You see, there is massive resentment that UK money is going to pay for the LONDON olympics, where all that infrastructure is being upgraded in SOUTH EAST england.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:16 No.4175566
    >>4174638
    You realise the arrogance of a "NO" campeign will swing it in favour of independence.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:17 No.4175573
    >>4174644
    >All the major parties will bomb Scotland with a huge Unionist campaign, especially the Conservatives.

    You do know that this isn't a good idea? Torries campaigning in Scotland to stop independence will do the opposite.

    The torries and labour got their asses kicked for running a negative campeign against the SNP last time, and if they do it again they'll lose
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:19 No.4175576
    The SNP stormed it when you consider the size of the opposition (not counting conservatives lol) Really I think anything could happen.

    I hope they get their independence god damn it
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:21 No.4175582
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    >>4175561

    It's grim opp North, lad.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:24 No.4175592
    >Torries campaigning in Scotland to stop independence will do the opposite.

    You can have no idea how badly I wanted to see Cameron mincing about in a kilt and attempting to ingratiate a "Scottish" persona in a country where Thatcher is still so heartily loathed that Tory electoral candidates still feel obligated to apologise for "that woman".
    (Or Jacob Rees-Mogg being driven around by his childhood nanny again.)
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:25 No.4175593
    Yesterday, the veteran Labour MP Gerald Kaufman asked the Prime Minister to consider how these rioters can be “reclaimed” by society. Yes, this is indeed the same Gerald Kaufman who submitted a claim for three months’ expenses totalling £14,301.60, which included £8,865 for a Bang & Olufsen television.

    Or take the Salford MP Hazel Blears, who has been loudly calling for draconian action against the looters. I find it very hard to make any kind of ethical distinction between Blears’s expense cheating and tax avoidance, and the straight robbery carried out by the looters.

    The Prime Minister showed no sign that he understood that something stank about yesterday’s Commons debate. He spoke of morality, but only as something which applies to the very poor: “We will restore a stronger sense of morality and responsibility – in every town, in every street and in every estate.” He appeared not to grasp that this should apply to the rich and powerful as well.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:29 No.4175607
    >>4173398 the riots would have gone on for much longer perhaps several wees as in France

    Stop saying shit, they lasted 3 days
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:30 No.4175611
    >“We will restore a stronger sense of morality and responsibility – in every town, in every street and in every estate."
    jesus christ
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:31 No.4175614
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    >Kaufman
    >Blears
    >"New Labour"

    It's like being asked to judge the relative tastiness of three pieces of shit.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:34 No.4175621
    From the Telegraph. The Telegraph!
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100100708/the-moral-decay-of-our-society-is-as-bad-at-
    the-top-as-the-bottom/
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:35 No.4175624
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    >>4175593

    did you write this or is it a paste? not that it isn't completely and utterly relevant, it just reads like part of a newspaper article
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:37 No.4175628
    >>4175624
    it's from the Telegraph. The Telegraph!

    above you
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:37 No.4175630
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    >>4175611

    When you're a screw-off and a fuck-up who spent practically all of the event on holiday you need to be seen overcompensating.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:38 No.4175631
    >>4175624

    It's a quote off another messageboard--and may be out of an article, I agree it sounds journalese.

    I just agreed with what it said--the rioters are scumbags, but the irony of the politicians who loot the public money through ridiculous expense scandals wagging their fingers at others pisses me off, too.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:46 No.4175653
    Costs:
    Rioters - £600 Million
    British Bankers shorting stocks - £12 Trillion.

    Vandalism?
    Its all in a days work!

    (with thanks to torygraph commenter "onebadmouse")
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)10:52 No.4175683
    Reports are coming in that Newport city centre is scene of utter devasation, looking almost like a war zone.

    Gwent Police confirm that no rioting has occurred.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)11:08 No.4175744
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    British Police has to man up.
    I recommend you some nice water cannons.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)11:11 No.4175758
    Is this shit STILL going on?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)11:15 No.4175771
    >>4173375

    >- Looser laws on self defence, He's already loosened them up once in the past several weeks and now he'll be forced to make them looser. A petition that already has a large number of signatures is going round to make self defence in Britain like it is in a Castle Doctrine state. (Castle Doctrine is part of English common law and it's stupid to not have it in place)

    They already were loose. It's just that retards listen to the Daily Mail/Express/Sun/Mirror that every single case people have been prosecuted with has been where the burglar is in the process of fleeing.

    If someone gets killed in your house, automatic police investigation to establish it and you will be brought down to the nick (Not arrested though) to explain. If you did kill them, there will be a court case to establish the facts. This is just procedure and most cases end up not going to trial if the court feels you were in danger of your life or the life of your family if the burglar attacked. If they do feel there was an element of malice like shooting a fleeing burglar in the back or chasing after them in a car after they fled and beating them to death with a cricket bat, then they arrest and charge you.

    Thanks to the general herp derp of the population and America. This keeps getting brought up every time even though the laws are already established. The only thing Call Me Dave is doing is re-affirming the laws that are already on the books to look like he's doing something.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)11:16 No.4175775
    >>4175758

    No, unless something kicks off tonight. But it's Friday so it doesn't really count - kids always kick off on Fridays anyway.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)11:18 No.4175783
    >>4175744
    Change that to English police, Scots Welsh and N Irish cops cope just fine with their local mental cases.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)11:20 No.4175795
    >>4175783

    Yeah, Glasgow is incredibly safe.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)11:22 No.4175805
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    Daily Reminder
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)11:23 No.4175811
    >>4175795

    > Glasgow
    > Safe

    0/10
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)11:24 No.4175819
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    >>4175805
    >That quote
    >King Nelson
    >Spanish Armada
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)11:40 No.4175908
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    >>4175631

    Also the very media reporting on it are some of the biggest tax dodgers going

    - Telegraph: Barclay Bros. running it from an Island in the English Channel and paying next to nothing in taxes on it
    - Mail: Associated Newspapers Group is registered in Barbados. BONUS: Richard Littlejohn is a non-dom who pays extremely little tax with a residence in Florida.
    - Express/Star: Also dodging according to Private Eye. The Expose will be in next Tuesdays Issue though. Cannot wait.
    - Guardian: Paper itself is run under a trust and a non-profit so pay reduced taxes (But still more than most papers). However, there has been some dodgy dealings with the profit making arm Guardian Media Group using offshore accounts in the purchase of the EMAP group
    Independent/Evening Standard: None so far. Lebedev's kept a clean nose.

    Irony is a complete bitch.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)11:45 No.4175945
    >>4175908

    Oh, forgot The Mirror Group. Nothing really there other than a bad habbit of firing staff and shutting down local papers to increase management bonuses.

    And of course, News International being also based in the Cayman Islands and paying little taxes as well.

    Funny, really.

    [spoiler]Read Private Eye[/spoiler]
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)11:56 No.4176007
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    Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell so long as we all take away an awareness of how full of shit the various parties attempting to look like moral authories are I don't think we can become truly lost.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)12:50 No.4176079
    >>4175908
    The Express and the Star are owned by Northern & Shell. Not sure about financial dodgy dealings, but last year they decided to exempt themselves from the jurisdiction of the Press Complaints Commission. They probably got sick of all the retractions they were having to print about their anti-Islam ranting.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)12:51 No.4176084
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    >>4175805
    >King Nelson
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)12:53 No.4176094
    Britain was once an ordered society that was the envy of the world — the most civilised, the most gentle and law-abiding.
    The violent anarchy that has taken hold of British cities is the all-too-predictable outcome of a three-decade liberal experiment which tore up virtually every basic social value.
    The married two-parent family, educational meritocracy, punishment of criminals, national identity, enforcement of the drug laws and many more fundamental conventions were all smashed by a liberal intelligentsia hell-bent on a revolutionary transformation of society.
    Those of us who warned over the years that they were playing with fire were sneered at and smeared as Right-wing nutters who wanted to turn the clock back to some mythical golden age.

    cont.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)12:54 No.4176101
    Now we can see what they have brought about in the unprecedented and horrific scenes of mob violence, with homes and businesses going up in flames, and epidemic looting.
    Clearly, there is some as yet unidentified direction and co-ordination behind the anarchy. But what is so notable and distressing is that, after the first day when adults were clearly involved, this mayhem has been carried out in the main by teenagers and children, some as young as eight.
    The idea that they should not steal other people’s property, or beat up and rob passers-by, appears to be as weird and outlandish to them as the suggestion that they should fly to the moon.
    These youths feel absolutely entitled to go ‘on the rob’ and steal whatever they want. Indeed, they are incredulous that anyone should suggest they might pass up such an opportunity.
    What has been fuelling all this is not poverty, as has so predictably been claimed, but moral collapse. What we have been experiencing is a complete breakdown of civilised behaviour among children and young people straight out of William Golding’s seminal novel about childhood savagery, Lord Of The Flies.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)12:55 No.4176108
    Once, children would have been rescued from their disadvantaged backgrounds by schools which gave them not just an education but structure and purpose to their lives.
    But the liberal intelligentsia destroyed that escape route, too. For its onslaught upon marriage — the bedrock institution of society — with a tax system that penalises married couples with a wife who doesn’t work, was replicated by an onslaught upon the understanding and very identity of that society. Instead of transmitting knowledge to children, teaching was deemed to be an attack upon a child’s autonomy and self-esteem.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)12:57 No.4176118
    Thus it was that teachers adopted the ‘child-centred’ approach, which expected children not only to learn for themselves but also to decide for themselves about behaviour such as sexual morality or drug-taking.
    The outcome was that children were left illiterate and innumerate and unable to think. Abandoned to wander through the world without any guidance, they predictably ended up without any moral compass.
    All of this was compounded still further by the disaster of multiculturalism — the doctrine which held that no culture could be considered superior to any other because that was ‘racist’.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)12:58 No.4176123
    That meant children were no longer taught about the nation in which they lived, and about its culture. So not only were they left in ignorance of their own society, but any attachment to a shared and over-arching culture was deliberately shattered.
    Instead of forging social bonds, multiculturalism dissolved them — and introduced instead a primitive war of all against all, in which the strongest groups would destroy the weak.
    Closely related to this was ‘victim culture’, in which all minority groups were regarded as victims of the majority. So any bad behaviour by them was excused and blamed on the majority.
    In similar vein, all criminal wrongdoing was excused on the basis that the criminal couldn’t help himself, as he was the victim of circumstances such as poverty, unemployment, or as yet illusory cuts in public spending. The human rights of the criminal became seen as more important than the safety and security of his victims. Punishment became a dirty word. So the entire criminal justice system turned into a sick joke, with young hoodlums walking off with community sentences or Asbos which they held in total contempt.
    Mr Cameron has declared that all those convicted of violent disorder in these riots will go to prison.
    Really? Isn’t it more likely that they will end up on some community penalty which will see them taken on trips to Alton Towers to make up for their disadvantaged upbringing? This is the normal response of Britain's sentimentalised and addle-brained criminal justice officials.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)12:58 No.4176127
    In short, what we have seen unfolding before our horrified gaze over the past four days in Britain is the true legacy of the Labour years.
    The social and moral breakdown behind the riots was deliberately willed upon Britain by Left-wing politicians and other middle-class ideologues who wrap their utter contempt for the poor in the mantle of ‘progressive’ non-judgmentalism.
    These are the people who — against the evidence of a mountain of empirical research — hurl execrations at anyone who suggests that lone parenthood is, in general, a catastrophe for children (and a disaster for women); who promote drug liberalisation, oppose selective education (while paying for private tutors for their own children) and call those who oppose unlimited immigration and multiculturalism ‘racists’.
    And the real victims of these people ‘who know best’ are always those at the bottom of the social heap, who possess neither the money nor the social or intellectual resources to cushion them against the most catastrophic effects of such nonsense.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)13:01 No.4176140
    >>4176079

    Not so much the anti-Islam stuff , it was more that more celebrities were starting to use the PCC instead of going through the courts in a campaign to make it look stronger and have teeth. Desmond knew he was fucked if it went down that route and pulled out since a stronger PCC meant his bread and butter (OK magazine) was massively fucked.

    Of course now due to the hacking scandal and Cameron promising independent regulation. He's even more fucked than he was.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)13:04 No.4176155
    >>4176127
    >>4176123
    >>4176118
    >>4176108
    >>4176101
    >>4176094
    >>4176094

    >Posting Melanie Philips article in the Mail even though it has been proven the Mail has no Moral highpoint to stand on since the paper and columnists are notorious tax dodgers.

    Sure is retarded in here
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)13:21 No.4176216
    >>4175576
    >>4175573
    >>4175566
    >>4175561

    SNP taking holyrood =/= We want independence.

    You know nothing of Scottish politics, don't pretend you do.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)13:23 No.4176224
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    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)13:25 No.4176231
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    >>4176127
    >>4176123
    >>4176118
    >>4176108
    >>4176101
    >>4176094

    Also here's Kryten smashing the absolute shit out of her stupidity

    https://plus.google.com/114018232303831249060/posts/eB14e2pW5fd
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)13:51 No.4176360
    I love how this is now the general UK news/politics thread.

    I miss /new/
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)13:59 No.4176390
    Posting in a /new/ thread.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)14:03 No.4176407
    So wait. Are Skinheads actually among the rioters?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)14:06 No.4176416
    >>4176407
    there were probably plenty of casual racists rioting
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)14:16 No.4176471
    >>4176155

    What's the wrapper (Daily Mail) have anything to do with the content? You fucking liberals blame the failures of our welfare state's programmes to actually "lift up" the poor and disenfranchised on the PROPER working class and the rich, as if it were our own doing that they can't hack it in 2011's economy. The wretched state of this country can all be traced to Labour policies. Don't go
    on about "hurr tories destroyed the north and Scotland and created the chavs". They aren't what's at hand. Most of the chavs are simply exploiting what the immigrants had started right here in England.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)14:31 No.4176556
    something's pn fire; it's happening again
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)14:35 No.4176578
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    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)14:41 No.4176613
    >>4176578

    lulz :D
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)14:42 No.4176623
    >>4176578

    btw it was "so we'll hunt him"
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)14:47 No.4176651
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    So all the rioters are likely to loose their welfare

    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337

    And here are some other petitions for you to sign

    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/172

    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/463
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)14:53 No.4176677
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    "Who the hell is the 'liberal intelligentsia' anyway? Stephen Fry? Definitely not me, I'm thick."
    --Robert Llewellyn
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)14:54 No.4176690
    >>4176416

    >Are skinheads among the rioters

    It's strongly believed one of the reasons the 'English Defence League' failed utterly to do any defending of England (unlike the Turk, Paki, and Sikh communities who acted nobly), is that the EDL supporters were amongst the White chav youth out looting. So yes the EDL/BNP were among the nig nogs and out looting and burning Britain.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)14:59 No.4176712
    >>4176651

    Stupid fucking idea. Personally I'd set 'em to work at all the hardest and dirtiest unskilled labour necessary for the rebuilding and have 'em draw an unattractive proportion of a proper wage for their efforts but then I'm a socialist degenerate and committed foe of decency.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)15:07 No.4176758
    We need to change our society. We need to put everyone to work, and we need to make everyone feel like there is some actual fucking meaning to their lives. These riots happened because our generation knows nothing about the importance of community or a strong society, they have been raised on Adidas, iPhones, PlayStation and Nike. These are the only family they know, apart from the oblivion of alcohol and drugs every weekend. Their lives hold no meaning. The lowest classes of our society breed like rabbits, producing unwanted child after unwanted child, and this is the result. Unemployment rates are too high and everyone needs a job and a livelihood. People feel betrayed by their government and by the big shiny brand names that dictate how they should lead their lives, because they made the mistake of placing their trust into either.

    I will not blame these riots on black people or whatever minority is supposedly to blame. White people took part too, white people from many different backgrounds, whether rich or poor. It's not even a problem exclusive to a specific social class, but British society as a whole. No, I would never think to partake in a riot, but at the same time, they fucking happened and there has to be some sort of underlying cause.

    People need to be motivated, encouraged and prompted to find work and feel as though they have something to OFFER to society. Even now as an unemployed person I feel so fucking alienated because I am searching and searching for a job and 90% of them require me to have "previous experience", as a 24 year old college dropout I have very little to offer on that front but I also want to be given a chance to prove myself. Getting past this barrier is a difficult task. Sometimes I feel alienated too. I don't want to be on the dole forever. It's no way to live.

    British society isn't broken, but it is heavily wounded and needs to be healed.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)15:09 No.4176768
    >>4176712
    You know the individual rioter isn't any more evil than the individual criminal; don't differentiate. Unless you think all shoplifters deserve degrading unskilled, unpaid labour.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)15:11 No.4176779
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    >>4175805
    >fx'd
    >> A few random observations from the other side of the pond Phil Ossiferz Stone !!esSirF6LRYN 08/12/11(Fri)15:12 No.4176782
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    During the Los Angeles riots 20 years ago we rounded up 11,000 rioters. Yes, ELEVEN THOUSAND. When the jails were full the surplus was stuck out at Camp Pendleton until they could be processed and charged. We had no CCTV cameras. We did not need them. We still don't.

    Exactly 1/10th that number have been arrested in London. The vast majority have de facto gotten away with it. Your CCTV network will help you to ID faces and charge the people that belong to them if they commit more crimes. They will not help you to catch them this time round -- just the recidivists, and just the ones you catch, and just the ones that don't fall through the system. Meanwhile it would help if your cops stopped using law enforcement techniques that derive from the very worst of what the Yanks were doing in the 70's. Pic related -- it's the man who cut crime in New Yawk in half.

    >.....the culprit is an out of date philosophy of reactive policing. Back in the 1970s many US forces, including the New York Police Department, abandoned beat policing and took to the car. The policy proved to be a disaster and has now been abandoned in almost every big American city. In the UK, however, beginning in the 1990s, the Met went in the opposite direction, seizing on closed-circuit television as the primary tool of law enforcement.

    >In New York in the 1990s, when police and unions complained about the weight of paperwork, the city hired thousands of civilian employees to perform office functions, allowing a dramatic increase in the numbers of police on the street. By contrast, the Met hired some 3,000 civilians, gave them six weeks’ training and put them out on the street in place of real police as “community support officers”.

    http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/e43004c0-c2b8-11e0-8cc7-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1UfSfAeyW
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)15:12 No.4176787
    >>4176690
    >It's strongly believed one of the reasons the 'English Defence League' failed utterly to do any defending of England (unlike the Turk, Paki, and Sikh communities who acted nobly), is that the EDL supporters were amongst the White chav youth out looting.

    Talk about weasel words.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)15:13 No.4176795
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    >All the poor riot and steal stuff
    >take away their benefits and housine
    >expect situation to improve

    All the people signing that petition are incredibly short sighted
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)15:13 No.4176802
    >>4176782

    >CCTV wont catch criminals
    >People being already caught
    >> Phil Ossiferz Stone !!esSirF6LRYN 08/12/11(Fri)15:15 No.4176811
    >>4176782
    I'd also like to say that the number of Britfags here who are making excuses for the gangs of postmodern Brownshirts that just inflicted a Kristallnacht on London is just as great a sign of societal decay as the riots themselves. I guess that makes you postmodern good Germans. And I despise you to the marrow of my bones.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)15:17 No.4176828
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    >>4176782

    > He thinks CCTV cameras are government owned not privately owned and somehow the police can access them
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)15:18 No.4176832
    >>4176471

    >What's the wrapper (Daily Mail) have anything to do with the content?

    Those preaching about the morals in society are not practising them. Philips rants about everyone else being to blame, yet the paper she works for and her fellow columnists are tax dodgers. If she really had any sort of moral standard, she wouldn't write for a paper literally contributing nothing back to society.

    You just like it because it espouses a viewpoint you like when the writer shares the same morality of the looters themselves.

    >>4176690

    The BNP and EDL are almost spent forces. BNP has been run into the ground by Nick Griffin kicking out anyone who questioned his leadership while running up massive debts and not submiting accounts to proper authorities while the EDL have been hit by a number of issues such as Brevik's links turning off a public support base, one of the founders being found to be a convicted pedophile and the general dissatisfaction with the leader Yaxley-Lennon using it as a merchandising operation and his close links to the security services meaning that demos are pretty much the easiest way to police get mugshots of everyone.

    Even though everyone claims "Britain is pulling to the far right". The far right is in as much disarray as the rest of the country and its unsurprising they would lash out with the rest of them.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)15:21 No.4176863
    >>4176127
    >In short, what we have seen unfolding before our horrified gaze over the past four days in Britain is the true legacy of the Labour years.
    >The social and moral breakdown behind the riots was deliberately willed upon Britain by Left-wing politicians and other middle-class ideologues who wrap their utter contempt for the poor in the mantle of ‘progressive’ non-judgmentalism.
    >These are the people who — against the evidence of a mountain of empirical research — hurl execrations at anyone who suggests that lone parenthood is, in general, a catastrophe for children (and a disaster for women); who promote drug liberalisation, oppose selective education (while paying for private tutors for their own children) and call those who oppose unlimited immigration and multiculturalism ‘racists’.
    >And the real victims of these people ‘who know best’ are always those at the bottom of the social heap, who possess neither the money nor the social or intellectual resources to cushion them against the most catastrophic effects of such nonsense.

    All that yes, but also the introduction of the MAOA-L gene in much greater quantities than previously, and probably other genes too.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)15:36 No.4176936
    >You know the individual rioter isn't any more evil than the individual criminal; don't differentiate.

    Since what I'm banging on about is a one-off experiment I don't think I've much choice.

    >Unless you think all shoplifters deserve degrading unskilled, unpaid labour.

    It's precisely because of the advantage American corporations take of prison labour that we've got to be circumspect in our use of it here.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)15:38 No.4176945
    any questions main subject
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/bbc_radio_fourfm
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)15:38 No.4176947
    >>4176832
    >The BNP and EDL are almost spent forces.

    Well it looks like Christmas came early for the BNP with these recent events. Just like the National Front after the riots in France.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)15:45 No.4176985
    Does anyone know what the situation is like in Nottingham city centre? I was thinking of going in tomorrow and have a look around/take a few photographs, but not sure if I should risk it.
    >> Keep Aaron Cutting Phil Ossiferz Stone !!esSirF6LRYN 08/12/11(Fri)15:47 No.4176993
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    Remember the pics of this poor old character in the news? Well... you can help him. I live in California and just sent him a quid. You should be able to do the same.

    http://keepaaroncutting.blogspot.com/
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)15:52 No.4177025
    >>4176947

    Well it hasn't turned into additional support so far. The thing is that Griffin tried to turn it into an opportunistic cash grab on his twitter with a mobile phone donation hotline due to him about to lose a pretty big court case against ex-members and his own members saw right through it already. It's annoyed more people than created support.

    The BNP is done, really.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)16:09 No.4177094
    >>4176985
    It's an absolute mess. No rioting, that's just how it is.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)16:10 No.4177100
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    I actually know this girl... she was in my school year.

    Ask me anything.
    >> /fa/scist_\int\ !!zAwDAn6uDeZ 08/12/11(Fri)16:12 No.4177118
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    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)16:14 No.4177125
    I HERD THERE WAS RIOTING IN NOTTINGHAM, TENS OF POUNDS DAMAGE WAS CAUSED

    and other classic poverty jokes
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)16:25 No.4177137
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    >>4176993

    Fuck yes sending money now.

    He's been given £31,157 already some good people out there.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)16:27 No.4177147
    >>4177094

    What's the overall atmosphere? Like are the high streets and shopping centres noticeably emptier, or are there still a good amount of people doing shopping and stuff during the afternoon? I just don't want to go there and feel completely vulnerable because there's barely anyone around.

    In my mind I've just got this eerie scene that it's like a zombie infection has hit; no people and broken glass everywhere, which is just weird because I know they've got that little summer fair thing in the Square, which is normally pretty packed.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)16:27 No.4177150
    >>4177125
    Rioting reported in Nottingham, damage estimated to be in the hundreds of pounds. Police concerned that if it spreads to Derby there may be millions of pounds in improvements.
    >> amerifag + !!rMUbJxhwwFs 08/12/11(Fri)16:28 No.4177159
    >>4177125
    >TENS OF POUNDS DAMAGE WAS CAUSED

    I FUCKING LOL'D SO HARD THIS SOUNDS SO FUCKING RETARDED HAHAHAHHA
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)16:31 No.4177181
    So are the riots done or are they still going?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)16:37 No.4177201
    >>4177181

    There's a riot in my pants.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)16:52 No.4177272
    >>4177118
    I love the guy taking a stroll in the background. It looks like he's whistling.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)17:01 No.4177324
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    >>4177272

    That's DiCaprio.
    >> Gozer !!PJZO93aXoUv 08/12/11(Fri)17:01 No.4177326
    >>4177272
    You must be new here.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)17:01 No.4177329
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    >>4177272
    >I love the guy taking a stroll in the background. It looks like he's whistling.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)17:06 No.4177361
    >>4175315
    "In calculating the Human Development Index (HDI), a literacy rate of 99.0% is assumed for high-income countries that do not report adult literacy information."

    the bar must be fucking low if canada and the U.S. make 99%. what if literacy was defined by 'reads 100 words or more a day'?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)17:17 No.4177423
    It's all the royals fault.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)17:33 No.4177518
    this is what you get when people stop paying for their tv licenses
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)17:34 No.4177519
    France had 0% growth!

    What the fuck, daily mail reported earlier this year that they were steamrolling ahead of us.

    What's going on France? I'm not mocking, curious!
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)17:35 No.4177532
    >>4177519

    Daily mail
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)17:41 No.4177562
    >>4177519
    >Daily Mail

    WHY

    WHY DO YOU READ THAT SHIT
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)17:42 No.4177565
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    Still wishing for my return?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)17:43 No.4177573
    >>4177562

    My parents read it, and it was reported on the BBC too. However, I'm still curious as to why France's economic growth has halted.
    >> /fa/scist_\int\ !!zAwDAn6uDeZ 08/12/11(Fri)17:51 No.4177612
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    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)18:12 No.4177755
    Anyone just seen David Starkey on Newsnight in Britain?

    He blames the riots on 'black culture' - the glorification of violence, misogyny, etc, etc. He got totally lambasted.

    But he's right!

    Some of the most economically deprived areas in Britain are in Wales, Scotland, and Northern England - areas which have very, very little minority areas.

    Did you see these areas rioting? No, you didn't. Economic and social deprivation is not an automatic reason to riot.

    As Starkey said, a lot of 'white people' have, over the past 10-20 years, ingratiated themselves into 'black culture' and so become in the parlance of this board, 'wiggers' - white people with black culture.

    This process of 'wiggerisation' is limited only to those areas of large black population, and it is virtually unknown in the provinces and the North.

    Why is it hard for 'liberals' to accept that 'black culture' is dangerous and anti-social? I would class myself as a liberal too, but I am also a scientist. And as such, I look at and analyse evidence.

    The most glaring evidence, to me, is this:

    The riots occurred in areas with the largest African minority communities; they did not occur in the areas with worst social deprivation.

    Therefore, the riots are caused by 'black culture' and not social deprivation. I may be taking Aristotle's deductive process too far here, please, prove me wrong.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)18:18 No.4177791
    >>4177324
    >>4177329
    >>4177326

    Yes, yes. I am. Nice, very nice.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)18:37 No.4177932
    Retards
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)18:38 No.4177946
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    miss me yet?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)18:46 No.4177998
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    >>4177755

    I agree with him. This didn't happen in other deprived working class communities. Even tho' many rioters were White chavs. It only happend where there Nig Nogs living.

    Other urban working class communities such as the Turk Muslims, Pakistani Muslims, and Indian Sikhs, didn't riot, and acted with dignity and respect.

    The only people out burning and looting were the Nig Nogs and White chavs. The Blacks in Britain have had it easy for 20 years. They've faced no racism (no one says shit if a Black man goes out with a White girl for example), they've faced no discrimination from the establishment which has been focused on Muslims, etc.

    Blacks in Britain had an easy life. They were given social housing, education opportunities, allowed to date White women, and so forth. And they return that by burning and looting from our cities?

    This isn't about poverty. It's about race. Other poor groups like the Indians, the Turks, the Pakis, didn't react violently, they acted honourably. It was ONLY the Nig Nogs and White chavs who copy their culture who did this. But will the Black community ever admit this or just play the victim?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)18:50 No.4178012
    I can only speak for myself and how hard I've struggled over the last two years to find solid work and get out of unemployment. I used to make 6 figures a year making honest-good money at video-game development companies. I worked hard for a great industrial-design education, building my skills/talents, and will always strive to be a better artists. Now it is all useless, I live at home with my parents just trying to help them get buy so they'll feed my ass.

    Riots may be irrational and betray us all but people want power any way they can get it. And policy-makers are no acception:
    http://ampedstatus.org/exclusive-analysis-of-financial-terrorism-in-america-over-1-million-deaths-an
    nually-62-million-people-with-zero-net-worth-as-the-economic-elite-make-off-with-46-trillion/

    In some ways I relate to how polarizing these class wars are becoming. Look how long and hard you have to work for years and years and years. I never once got paid overtime. I had 340+ vacation hours that I never got a chance to use when I lost my job we were so busy - here it is two years later, and it's still way difficult and embarrassing for us to scrounge for a living with no end in sight. I know it hasn't been easy for you anybody, but racism is the last thing that should surface. Our expensive educations and work experiences have been rendered useless, our craft dished out to China for cheap. If we have this much struggle, I can only imagine what ghettos over there are going through - I can't even begin to fathom the anger if nobody ever listens to them. Meanwhile my democracy (or lack-thereof) is approaching 100 years solid of wartime with half of our taxes sometimes paying for both sides of the conflicts. Who's really running off with the loot?

    My heart goes out anybody hurt, but I do how that Police-States throughout the world are terrified shitless

    /godly-pursuit atheist eagle-scout white knight humanist reporting from Alabama
    >> Phil Ossiferz Stone !!esSirF6LRYN 08/12/11(Fri)19:02 No.4178072
    >>4178012
    I earn half what you do. I've been unemployed since last February. However, I managed to sock away a helluva lot of cash. I have a house that's paid for, a truck that's paid for, and a credit rating that's clean. I owe no dents or debits and I have mid-five figures in stocks and cash.

    Meanwhile, you sit at home with your parents feeding you like the classic neckbeard and kinda-sorta rationalize the greedy, nihilistic, grinning bullshit we've all seen over the past week.

    I don't feel sorry for you at all, you dumb bastard. You're pathetic.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)19:03 No.4178079
    >>4178012

    I think you're probably right. Although I do believe Black culture and the white Chavs who copy them have a tendancy to violence; I think the recent riots combined with British student unrest point to a messed up global system which is badly affecting young people; and is the result of 30 years of Reagan/Thatcher politics.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)19:12 No.4178128
    >>4177755
    I also think a large part of it is the pussification of the English police, try that shite in Glasgow and the police would have batons drawn and be smacking the shit out of your skull without even thinking about it. So effective infact that DAvid Cameron reckons the police in England can learn valuable lessons from the Strathclyde police force, although i beleive he's looking at what the Boston police department in the US has done there also.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)19:19 No.4178161
    >>4178128
    I blame Labour.

    Hell, they're the ones who started this whole Heath and Safety craze in Britain.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)19:27 No.4178203
    >>4178161
    Well how come the police can be brutal in Scotland and in particular Northern Ireland, but can;t do so in England, last time i checked the scots were labour/socialist voters?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)19:31 No.4178228
    >>4178072

    Oh don't pity me one bit, I am nobody's victim. My credit is amazing, my car almost paid off. I've had it very good, I am a deeply privileged individual and give a lot back to my parents helping them with their business, I help out my community, teach college, and do plenty of science-volunteer work. yet it's certainly not enough to get by these days.
    I saved up enough to not become homeless, but it turns out that women are deeply gifted at stealing that shit away from a man. But I learn my lessons, I'm very young for what I've achieved and it's always a learning-curve.

    I do like to understand situations like this - I visited that nation when I was 17, so it pains me to see it in turmoil. It was so beautiful.
    nihilism is not my approach. I've worked with many poor communities before, and it's not an easy road. When you hate them, they hate you back two-fold. Chaos can be visited upon anybody, fairness is never a guarantee.

    I can only hope that order will continue to grow out of the chaos, and love out of the hatred. I'm ignorant to what those ghettos are like, but it seems like they were protesting peacefully and nobody payed any attention.
    I doubt I'd survive two seconds in a ghetto like that without turning to drugs or going mad.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)19:33 No.4178242
    >>4178203
    There is an ancient understanding in the Queen's realm of England, that no violence may be displayed by the agents of state on the subjects of Her Majesty.

    Irish are different.

    British policing is akin to its imperialism - talk them into submission. It has always worked in the past, until now.

    Now, there is a class of untermenschen who cannot be reasoned with. State violence is the only language which they may understand.

    Hangin's to good for 'em, etc.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)19:35 No.4178253
    >>4178203
    Because of the West Lothian question.

    Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales can vote on English issues, but England cannot vote on their issues. So they can change their laws to do that sort of thing without England stopping them.

    Meanwhile, down in England Labour led by Blair and then Brown did - well, you know what they did.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)19:40 No.4178291
    >>4178203
    Ask your parents about 1980-85.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)19:41 No.4178294
    >>4178253
    The SNP don't vote on any English only issue in the UK Parliament, they said they'd do so as soon as the Scottish parliament was resumed after 300 years, but as for Labour and the Tories, i'm sure the spinless fuckers would do anything the party whip would tell them to do.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)19:46 No.4178321
    >>4178242
    I've just realised what rubbish I'd written.

    >>4178291
    This man has a point. The miners' riots were fucking awful (I grew up in northern England during them).

    Thatcher. It all starts with that fucking bitch.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)19:49 No.4178347
    >>4178242
    >>4178253
    oh boy you sure derped pretty hard there
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)19:59 No.4178411
    Fires in every photo.

    Talk about the riots as if they are looting related.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/ballerina-olympic-ambassador-arrested-london-sweep-152907901.htm
    l

    tl;dr: OP is a faggot
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)20:18 No.4178542
    >>4178161

    'Elf and Saf-eh-tea and/or Pee Cee gone mad is the greatest Tabloid scam ever since it was the tabloids that not only convinced everyone that the government was out to ruin their enjoyment of anything but were also the ones who convinced the parents to sue playgrounds and other places if their precious snowflake got hurt.

    CCTV is my favourite scam. Right after the death of James Bulger, the tabloids DEMANDED that CCTV was put everywhere as CCTV lead to the capture of his killers. They wanted it on every street corner and the outraged parents of the nation beat down the MP's doors till they did. It wasn't until the speeding tickets or the fines for parking in disabled spots and the police using CCTV to look for other crimes that the middle class were want to do that people got angry and then the tabloids came up with BIG BROTHER BRITAIN and the government out to get you. After giving the police new equipment, people were shocked and horrified that the police were actually *gasp* USING IT!

    Most shit is also taken out of context. There was one last year where police asked for some football jerseys were banned in some south london pubs and sent e-mails to landlords. Of course, papers flipped blaming muslims and liberals screaming that people cant wear their england jerseys. Thing was, the police didn't ban England jerseys. They asked for club jerseys to be banned as there had been problems between Palace and Charlton firms and the police didn't want drunk fans kicking off because someone might be a member of a firm.

    The HSE even rips the piss out of it on their own website

    http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/index.htm

    tl;dr: Tabloids make people morons.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)20:18 No.4178545
    >>4178321
    Even after Brixton, Toxteth and Handsworth, and the heavy-handed way they were dealt with, we've never seen anything like the sheer brutality of Orgreave before or since - not even the Poll Tax riots were crushed that heavily.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)20:20 No.4178554
    Why are poor people such scum?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)20:22 No.4178569
    >>4178554
    Fuck you too.

    Us poor working class aren't scum. The UNDERCLASS are scum.

    Please learn the difference.
    >> Phil Ossiferz Stone !!esSirF6LRYN 08/12/11(Fri)20:30 No.4178616
    Anybody got a torrent or a rapidshit or a stream or *something* of Newsnight last night? I want to see exactly how David Starkey phrases it -- I mean the context -- when he (correctly, IMHO, if he means the whole gangsta-thug thing) blames the riots on 'black culture.'
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)20:31 No.4178628
    >>4178569
    Salt of the earth/ Scum of the earth?
    Same difference.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)20:33 No.4178641
    >>4178628
    >Same difference.

    And you call me scum! Next you'll say you 'could care less' about what I think!
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)20:38 No.4178673
    Good old David Starkey.

    Here's the link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14513517
    >> Phil Ossiferz Stone !!esSirF6LRYN 08/12/11(Fri)20:46 No.4178716
    >>4178673
    /looks pleased

    Thank you.
    >> anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)21:06 No.4178830
    >>4178012
    the thing about it is we in the west gave away the jobs these people would've worked to china and they without purpose without a future have become animals that need to be contained but we should reserve the harshest punishments and the most scorn on the people that pushed the failed policies in the first place
    >> Johnny !qpBl.gJsqo 08/12/11(Fri)21:15 No.4178888
    >>4178673
    I hate everyone involved in that discussion. Everyone.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)21:24 No.4178962
    >>4178830

    Shut up you communist scum. The free market dictates where the jobs go.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)21:26 No.4178976
    >>4178673
    To be honest i find Starkey to be a bitter bigotted twat on past Question Time appearances regarding the Celtic countries, he never has anything positive to say about us. He likes to blame everyone bar the English for the Uk's problems.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)21:31 No.4179028
    >>4178962
    Is the "free market" large corporations? Because that is who decideds where many, many jobs go.
    >> anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)21:32 No.4179032
    >>4178962

    there is no free market or fair competition when the workers you are competing with live in a communist country and have little to no rights
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)21:33 No.4179039
    >>4179032
    this too. So far we've established the free market is actually huge unaccountable bodies. Fantastic.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)21:34 No.4179049
    >>4178976
    He spoke ill of Scotland *once*, when the question of Independence was being discussed.

    He said that Scotland should not fall foul of 'small-nation syndrome' - an overly inflated and misplaced sense of national pride, stemming from a small nation being beside a large nation.

    He's basically right. Scotland's nationalism is petty and unwarranted.

    Yes, he's an English patriot - something with which the media has a fucking hard time to understand. He stands up for England, perhaps the *only* person on mainstream TV to do so.

    If Scotland can't hack the opinion of one television historian, is its nationalism truly stable?

    (I think not.)
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)21:45 No.4179112
    >>4179049
    He also sad we were scroungers, a burden, and mocked our intelligence and literature. Now being an Edinburgh man I can tell you that prick he's talking bollocks, we contribute as much the most out of all UK regions barring the South East and London and that before oil gets mentioned.

    Furthermore, our nationalism has nothing to do with him, its our choice if we want to be free from the rest of Britain. It's not like the vote in 2013 will be given to the rest of the UK, its fror Scotland to decide its future, not some jumped up faux intelligencia moron like Starkey
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)21:56 No.4179165
    >>4179112
    The support rate for Scottish independence is higher outside of Scotland than within Scotland itself
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)22:05 No.4179211
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    >>4179112
    Some historians have a really fucked up world view. So does most of /int/ but Starkey says some crazy shit due to nolgista over british empire fetish.

    >>4179165
    England is fed up of giving scotland a better life at a really high cost to itself.

    Scotland gets free uni's and shit and is more subsidised than FUCKING IRAQ. THEN THEY HAVE THE GALL TO COMPLAIN ABOUT BEING OPPRESSED!

    IT WOULD BE OK IF THEY WERE TROLLING! BUT THEY FUCKING BELIEVE IT! well only some scots but the scots which think like that piss me off.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)22:06 No.4179218
    >>4179165
    Yeah it's fucked up, they're willing to throw us to the wolves and hurt the remainder of the UK at the same time.

    To be fair though most of them believe that the majority of Scottish people do actually support independence.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)22:09 No.4179229
    >>4179218
    Scottish here, disregard what this separatist is saying. Most of us want to stay in the union.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)22:12 No.4179236
    >>4179229
    What? I'm not a seperatist, the very post you're quoting should tell you that...I was talking about the views of the rest of the UK (mainly the English), surveys have shown that they believe the Scottish to be pro-independence on the whole, which is not true.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)22:23 No.4179286
    An independant Scotland would get along fine your acting like we'd be some third world shithole. Which makes you look like a cunt.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)22:27 No.4179300
    >>4179286

    They have no idea how fucked they'd be, the majority of nukes stored in Scotland would go to England, the oil would go to England, Norway and Scotland, the constituency that has all the oil votes, lib dem not SNP. Who do Scotland trade the most with in the world? England. If they became independent they'd probably join the EU and they would have to convert to the Euro as all new EU members must do. Being in the euro would pit a weaker currency against the pound ruining all small-medium businesses in Scotland.
    If they don't join the EU, England will fuck them over with EU trade embargoes.
    The SNP even kept quiet about independence in the election because they know it would be shooting themselves in the foot.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)22:40 No.4179349
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    British government want to evict rioters and their families from public housing

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/13/world/europe/13britain.html?hp
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)22:41 No.4179354
    >>4173398
    I fucking hate you and I'm not even British. As an American your dick sucking attitude towards government surveillance bothers me. There's a difference between my fucked up government listening to phone calls and intercepting electronic messages for terrorism prevention and your government taping you so it can arrest you tomorrow for any crime it wants. That's fucked up and you should know it's fucked up. Why don't you know that? What's wrong with you? How can society prevent others from being like you, a fucked up fuck up?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)22:47 No.4179378
    >>4179354

    >your government taping you so it can arrest you tomorrow for any crime it wants

    not the same guy but wat? any crime it wants? No, it's any crime that you commit. If you commit a crime then you fucking deserve to be arrested.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)22:50 No.4179391
    >>4179349

    Fuck yes. They should have their welfare taken away too
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)22:52 No.4179397
    >>4179391

    then watch them resort to drug dealing and weapons smuggling to survive
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)22:53 No.4179402
    >>4179397

    Then watch them get arrested for committing crimes
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)22:55 No.4179409
    >>4179378
    If there is no traffic and you run a red light... was a crime really committed? People are get too obsessed with the fictional laws that we have created rather than the purpose that they serve. Red lights are intended to keep people safe by keeping motorists organized. But if you are the only person at a red light, what is the danger in driving through? There is no danger, and catching a person on film doing this and then prosecuting them is just the governments way of getting more money out of the people.

    Countless by-laws and codes exist for the sole purpose of generating cash flow to the government. People need to realize this and stop being so black and white about the law.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)22:57 No.4179421
    >>4179300
    Scotland would not need the nukes, but you'd need a place to house them. As for the oil 80% of British oil is in Scottish Waters. The constiuency of the lib dems matters fuck all when they only have 4 seats in the 129 member scottish parliament. Plus the Scottish policy is to keep the pound until a better alternative is offered to the Euro, Salmond is a qualified Economist, so he will play his card right.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:01 No.4179432
    >>4179421

    > Scottish Waters
    > Implying such a thing exists
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:02 No.4179438
    >>4179417

    cctv is worthless, just wear a mask or disguise
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:03 No.4179442
    >>4179438

    > CCTV is worthless
    > Rioters being caught and prosecuted
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:05 No.4179450
    >>4179432
    If we were independent then yes this would exist, eejit.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:05 No.4179454
    >>4179442

    only a few stupid ones who showed their face in public
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:08 No.4179464
    >>4179454

    ie most of them
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:11 No.4179483
    >>4173459
    I'm sorry but you're an idiot in this case. The sikhs and muslims actually protected their neighborhood, including whites and others who lived in it, together during the riots. Look it up.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:12 No.4179488
    >>4179442
    And this is where the Strathclyde police come in, they just don't give a fuck, draw batons, smack the shit out of them, ask questions later
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:13 No.4179500
    >>4173483
    British cops actually let citizens rat out their friends and family by allowing the raw feeds to be watched online. Then you can instantly "police" your neighbors. Sweet, huh?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:16 No.4179511
    >>4179500

    You scared of being caught committing a crime?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:18 No.4179517
    >>4179464

    hardly, i think they only caught less than 10% of rioters.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:20 No.4179523
    >>4179517

    Better than 0%
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:20 No.4179524
    >>4173483

    they are already using artificial intelligence to analyze CCTV video feeds, no more human watchers, software will analyze everyone's movement every second.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:22 No.4179528
    >>4179524
    POLICE STATE ZIONIST REPITLIAN NAZIS 2012 DOOMSDAY CERN RAPTURE

    ....


    NAZIS LIVE ON THE MOON!
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:22 No.4179529
    >>4179524
    So?
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:22 No.4179534
    >>4179349
    >>4179391

    It's posturing by the council looking for publicity and popularity. No judge will actually let them do it once they get to court.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:22 No.4179536
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    >>4179524
    >>4179524
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:25 No.4179545
    >>4179536

    it's not tin foil when it's true

    http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/208452/ai-could-power-next-gen-cctv-cameras
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:26 No.4179547
    >>4179349
    >>4179391

    Oh and by the time Parliament properly comes back from recess, they will dismiss the "Strip welfare" petition as overemotional and reactionary and it won't even make the floor. Most of the petitions now (Like looking at gun laws) will also be dismissed because of "heightened tensions"

    The buttmad will be historic amongst mail readers.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:28 No.4179555
    >>4179545

    > Could

    Protip: AI doesn't exist
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:29 No.4179558
    >>4179547

    If that happens there will be a revolution.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:30 No.4179565
    >>4179547

    > They are already using
    > Links article discussing technology which doesn't even exist

    0/10
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:35 No.4179582
    >>4179565

    it's an old article, prototype has already been built
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:35 No.4179583
    >>4179558

    People won't care by that stage anyway since it all will all have passed on and most will be satisfied with what the courts have done.

    As well, that site has some of the most hilarious weasel wording ever. It's not guaranteed that you will get it on the floor even. Backbenchers will just discuss it behind closed doors first and only bring it to the floor if they think its worthwhile and even then it will only get a debate behind the main issues of the day EG. when everyone important has gone home and its just a bunch of backbenchers getting in debate practice.

    So many people will be completely anal devastated when they realise just what that petition site is and not what they thought it would be.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:35 No.4179587
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    >>4179565
    IT HAS ALREADY BEGIN
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:38 No.4179594
    >>4179583

    If the government doesn't do what the people want there will be massive revolts.

    Already 164,000 people want the scum to loose welfare.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:43 No.4179606
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    > Petition that people convicted of rioting will loose welfare
    > Criminals arn't eligible for welfare anyway
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:47 No.4179618
    >>4179594

    Oh it might have enough numbers to get a debate on the floor. But if you really think its going to be with both the cabinet and shadow cabinet on the floor and a packed house, You are hilariously mistaken. A few back benchers and whatever DUP/SDLP MP's killing time before the flight back to Belfast more like.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:52 No.4179634
    >>4179618

    The losing of benefits doesn't have to be debated, criminals don't qualify for benefits already.

    Anti-social behaviour is also already a cause for a landlord to evict someone in public housing and land lords are being encouraged to use their powers.

    Don't even need discussing in parliament
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:53 No.4179638
    >>4179618
    >>4179583
    >>4179547

    > Proud his government is tyrannical and will ignore the public.
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:57 No.4179648
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    >>347223272
    FUCK YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR
    >> Anonymous 08/12/11(Fri)23:59 No.4179658
    >>4173592
    VIRAL MARKETING FOR CAMERON
    how much are you being paid?
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)00:01 No.4179662
    >>4179638

    >Implying less than 1% of the public is worth listening to
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)00:02 No.4179673
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    >>4179658

    Not enough

    >>4179662

    99% of the public are retarded.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)00:08 No.4179682
    It should not be the government's job to hunt you down for every crime you commit. There is enough violent crime and white collar fuck the poor crime to go after. The red light example isn't wrong. Why the fuck are you screwing me for 200 dollars because I ran a red light at 2am when I was the only car on the road? Perhaps I missed the light by a second etc etc. It's one step away from just making up their own cgi and fucking me with it.

    It should be if a cop sees me he makes a decision to punish me. And that's bullshit too, but damn you're going to use gadgets that I pay for in taxes to rape me? Not cool. it's not cool and all you faggots who defend cctv are idiots.

    "YOU WANT TO BE A CRIMINAL LOL"

    Exactly. I wouldn't be a criminal unless you had it on cctv. Do you understand?
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)00:09 No.4179687
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    >>4179682
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)00:11 No.4179692
    >>4179687
    You don't understand and it's not cool. Not cool.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)00:12 No.4179694
    >>4179409
    >post logical thought
    >no one responds
    okay.jpg
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)00:34 No.4179754
    >>4179694
    >>4179682
    I commented on it, way to read others' posts while complaining no one commented on yours. Douche.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)01:10 No.4179826
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    Fellow Filipinos, let's pose for a photo souvenir of this historic event!
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)01:14 No.4179844
    >>4179826

    What a crappy photoshop. Look at the pixelation on the bottom right.

    I would even be more angry if you're an actual Filipino trying to be relevant.

    You're a shame to your country.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)01:18 No.4179860
    >>4179844
    sure is newfag.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)01:42 No.4179963
    >>4179860
    when is this thread going to be locked? My browser is going ape shit opening this thread with 4chanx activated
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)02:20 No.4180119
    >>4179682

    How about just no breaking the law and being a competent driver?
    >> anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)02:30 No.4180160
    I read an electrical engineering student got 6 months in jail for saying he would beat a cops ass if he wasn't wearing a uniform after getting shoved by the police-the brits acted like huge pussies now they are over reacting to regain their lost manhood.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)02:32 No.4180175
    >>4180160
    Everyone knows judges of the UK have bigger penises than the police. Otherwise the police wouldn't be so beta.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)02:40 No.4180197
    >>4180160

    Sad to say, but it's justified. People lost respect for Authority now Authority needs to flex is muscles to get that respect back.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)05:27 No.4180719
    >>4180175
    >judges have bigger penises
    >common sentence for murderers is around 10 years

    >why.jpeg
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)05:40 No.4180752
    >>4180197
    If you want respect as an authority, maybe you should stop being so god damn corrupt.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)05:42 No.4180758
    >>4180752
    I bet all the tin pot dictators in the world think they should crack down harder as-well, all the while their people starve

    oh but we've already formed the consensus that these were all wealthy people rioting haven't we with all their Blackberries.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)05:51 No.4180776
    What is this that we should strip these people of the social services that they depend on? What possible positive impact do you think that would have? Or does that not matter as long as you see the state getting its revenge and driving the poorest in society right off the edge of it.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)07:01 No.4180966
    >>4179682
    By that logic it's perfectly alright for me to murder people so long as I dont get caught.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)07:21 No.4181039
    >>4179432
    Not a Scotfag, but actually there is such a thing as Scottish waters. There are also Welsh and Northern Irish waters. The devolved governments aren't there for show - they have powers in fields where the limit of waters might be relevant (e.g. energy policy).
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)07:23 No.4181043
    >>4180966
    There's a bit of a difference between killing someone and copying tracks from a CD you bought to your MP3 player (yes, this is illegal).
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)07:38 No.4181082
    Mixing in in this thread.
    I can't get the words of David Cameron out of my head. They are so true and capture quite well what is going on with todays society:

    "Its all too clear that we have a big problem with gangs in our country. For too long there has been a lack of focus and a complete lack of respect shown by these groups of thugs.

    I am clear that they are in no way representative of the vast majority of young people in our country who despise them frankly as much as the rest of us do. But there are pockets of our society that are not just broken, but frankly sick.

    When we see children as young as 12 and 13 looting and laughing, when we see the disgusting sight of an injured young man with people pretending to help him while they are robbing him, it is clear there are things that are badly wrong in our society.

    For me the root cause of this mindless selfishness is the same thing I have spoken about for years: it is a complete lack of responsibility in parts of our society.

    People allowed to feel that the world owes them something, that their rights outweigh their responsibilities and that their actions do not have consequences. Well they do have consequences.

    We need to have a clearer code of values and standards that we expect people to live by and stronger penalties if they cross the line. Restoring a stronger sense of responsibility across our society in every town in every street in ever estate is something I am determined to do."
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)07:40 No.4181086
    >>4181082
    Does someone have a link to the video in which he says that? Can't find it online.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)08:31 No.4181268
    >>4181082
    Cameron is using it as political capital for the induction of his "personal responsibility for everyone except my partners, my friends, and I" Conservative party mantra. I was hopeful when he indicated that he was about to approach the issue of underlying causes, but unfortunately all we got from him was hyperbole and avoidance. Society is very sick, there are criminals with no respect for anyone, but why? Putting it down to "sheer criminality" or "a lack of responsibility" doesn't address any causes, it's a cop-out, it's merely burying one's head in the sand. Exactly why are certain areas teeming with violent scum with no prospects at all? Ask and address that or these riots will happen again and again, with growing severity.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)08:31 No.4181270
    >>4179682

    The public demanded it. They reap what they sow.

    >>4179634

    >Anti-social behaviour is also already a cause for a landlord to evict someone in public housing and land lords are being encouraged to use their powers.

    That's describing private rented accommodation, idiot. Public housing is the remit of the local council, not landlords. And Wandsworth is trying to save face after a bunch of scandals got revealed in Private Eye by trying to appear tough on crime. It's very likely a judge will throw out any attempt because of how disproportionate it is towards the rest of the looters family, especially when they are giving individual sentences that are extremely harsh.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)08:42 No.4181302
    >/int/ is not /­n­e­w­/ 2.0.

    LOL, could have fooled me.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)09:16 No.4181348
    Enforced morality scares the shit out of me, especially when it comes from the top of society proven to be and to mingle with the corrupt and immoral.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)09:16 No.4181349
    >>4181270
    PROTIP: local councils are landlords
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)09:17 No.4181351
    >>4181302
    for the better, bro. /int/ is a wankfest
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)09:25 No.4181369
    why does this have to be a sticky?
    who gives a shit?
    nobody!
    the end.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)09:50 No.4181450
    >>4181369
    To stop the front page being clogged with hurrr durrr Britfags are stupid threads being made every 2 minutes
    >> /newshit/ 08/13/11(Sat)09:50 No.4181451
    reported for antisemitism.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)10:19 No.4181548
    While the English are running away like pussies Turkish shopkeepers are protecting their part of town.

    way to fail uk

    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2011/08/201181042453833564.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72nmYLE5CrY
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)11:13 No.4181736
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    Just before the stickies die (since the riots are over), thanks to the Mods for this, since it gave a place to discuss what was pretty much noooz.

    Profitable. And everybody got what they wanted!
    >> ThePoster !8zKq6v5DN6 08/13/11(Sat)11:33 No.4181809
    I'm not reading the entire stickie, but has the government actually realised that they're not really getting it? They arrest all these kids and roll them out of court and they then juts pose and laugh at the camera because all they got was a telling off. Many of them already have criminal records so they're not scared of the law; They'll just lay down for a while and try it again later.

    The UK needs to go back to actual capital punishment, treating the criminals with less luxuries and if needs be, publicly humiliate them in stocks like they used hundreds of years ago.

    Fuck all the haters who think we should be better than that. We try and it's devolved into a situation where the law is too politically correct and too soft on criminal offenders.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)12:04 No.4181927
    >>4181809
    >The UK needs to go back to actual capital punishment, treating the criminals with less luxuries and if needs be, publicly humiliate them in stocks like they used hundreds of years ago.

    You mean be tougher like America?

    Or maybe we should try and emulate Norway, and focus on rehabilitation. Maybe we could have their low low <20% re offence rate.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)12:06 No.4181931
    >>4181809
    Capital punishment is a bad idea. I think corporal punishment is the way to go. Start caning people like Singapore. I always thought it was funny that everyone got upset when that dumbass kid got himself caned in Singapore for vandalism. Executing retards in Texas is okay, but hitting someone with a stick is evil? How does someone get their priorities so fucked up?
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)12:09 No.4181947
    Anyone here participated also in the riots?
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)13:38 No.4182361
    everything has been quiet since thursday right?
    >> ThePoster !8zKq6v5DN6 08/13/11(Sat)14:12 No.4182520
    >>4181947
    Anyone who did deserves to be put in stocks and pelted by rotten fruit, then sterilised so they can't sully the genepool with their thugfaggot ways. If they have kids then they should still be prevented from creating more

    >>4181927
    I mean tougher like America. Kids go to jail for years for robbing convinience stores. They get a few months at the most and told off.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)14:13 No.4182524
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14513517
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)14:22 No.4182555
    >>4182524
    Enoch was right
    Starkey was right
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)14:32 No.4182597
    >>4182555
    I love how they all gang up on him for being a racist - when not a single thing he said is even remotely racist. He offered facts and opinions formed on evidence.

    Most black culture is destructive in nature. Lots of young, white people are 'becoming black' by consuming it.

    And then you've got the black lady sitting next to him, in a nice outfit, speaking 'proper' English, and talking about how rap music - and the language used in that text message, is no worse or better than white culture.

    She adopted white culture. She succeeded in life. Those white chavs adopted black culture. They became rioting looters and benefit scroungers.

    So yes - there is a cultural superiority there.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)14:50 No.4182693
    >>4182597

    Starkey is selective. The culture already existed before any sort of rap music or "black culture" penetration in the "Wideboy" and Essex culture that existed in the 80's and 90's which glorified crime families such as the Kray Bros and produced media glorifying the culture like "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels".

    He's picking a convenient scapegoat and moral panic that suits him without looking at the overall evolution of the culture and general anti-authority streak, which has been going on for years, arguably as far back as the "Teddy boys" post WWII

    He's a pretty shit historian if he can't take in the whole picture.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)15:03 No.4182781
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    Leave the filth to me
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)15:06 No.4182805
    >>4182524
    lol'd at loud when she said "what do you mean these people?"
    it's one of black peoples favorite catchphrases here in america.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)15:19 No.4182887
    >>4182597

    >Those white chavs adopted black culture. They became rioting looters and benefit scroungers.

    Actually that was a sterotype that existed within the "wideboy" culture well before it got associated with race. Tabloids in the 80's would be up in arms that people were using benefits on their cars, dogs, beer and buying early mobile phones and they would be cheating benefits by labouring at a garage for a mate and pulling cash in hand jobs while picking up benefits.

    I can deduce from your post that you are American because you simply have no clue of any British culture what so ever.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)15:31 No.4182944
    a race issue rather than a class issue lol

    the only race issue is defacto institutional racism at the MET
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)15:33 No.4182955
    >>4182944

    It was neither a race or a class issue. More of a greed issue.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)15:41 No.4182993
    Owen Jones chats about David Starkey

    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/08/david-starkey-black-powell
    >> Mad Scientist Hououin Kyouma !VFku6Ixxx. 08/13/11(Sat)19:24 No.4183430
    Here's my proposals on how to deal with people involved in the riots:
    Reduce their benefits
    Make them do Community Service
    Corporal Punishment
    Named and shamed
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)20:10 No.4183477
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14519187

    >Speaking to the Independent on Sunday, Sir Hugh, president of the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), said: "It seems to me, if you've got 400 gangs, then you're not being very effective.

    lol, he has a point.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)20:29 No.4183530
    >>4183430
    Ship them to Australia, just like the old times
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)20:50 No.4183629
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    >>4183530
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)20:55 No.4183652
    I hope David Starkey enjoys his new life as an irrelevant old cunt.

    Seriously, the tudors? lol get a life mate
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)21:25 No.4183818
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    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)21:25 No.4183822
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    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)21:26 No.4183828
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    'sup
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)21:27 No.4183831
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    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)21:28 No.4183851
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    howdy
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)21:28 No.4183852
    >>4183818
    >>4183822
    >>4183828
    >>4183831

    Having fun yet, mates?
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)21:29 No.4183857
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    writing a parking ticket?
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)21:32 No.4183873
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    >>4183852
    I'm taking the pics from here. There are more:
    http://waronsociety.noblogs.org/post/2011/08/08/uk-widespread-anti-police-rioting-in-london-and-else
    where-continues-3-nights-so-far/

    Same blog also has pics from Chile & elsewhere.
    >> strawman !!vdYpvbZXNQi 08/13/11(Sat)21:42 No.4183928
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    you know who's responsible for this, right?
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)21:49 No.4183966
    >>4183928
    it's the royals fault. as always. they can't into proper school education guidelines. they kill world understanding. i love uk. i wish them to overcome racial shits.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)21:50 No.4183970
    >>4183857
    No. Police can't give parking tickets in London. Probably either a notice that it'll be removed, or a flyer that someone has left after the fact.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)21:56 No.4183999
    Perhaps we should play this whenever looting is seen in a neighboorhood:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i1QAtET0ok
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)22:31 No.4184171
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    We're waking up.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)22:33 No.4184178
    >>4183999
    Emergency service trips confirm it.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)22:33 No.4184183
    >>4184171
    >doesn't realize 90% of the population will watch it and rage.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)22:56 No.4184279
    >>4173592
    >Guy breaks into my home
    >no doubt I'm stabbing his ass
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)23:06 No.4184328
    >>4179438

    This post is pretty old, but I feel the need to respond.

    A CCTV network is more than capable of following a masked man back to his house.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)23:09 No.4184340
    >>4184328

    Wat, there would have to be millions of cameras for that to work.

    There's not a security camera any where near my house.
    >> Anonymous 08/13/11(Sat)23:57 No.4184521
    >>4184340

    They have millions of them in London
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)02:32 No.4185048
    >>4184340

    You're forgetting the Big Brother network.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)05:14 No.4185583
    Who organized the looting?
    Aftera ll, as well as there is no free lunch, there is no unorganized mob.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)05:23 No.4185607
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    Policefag reporting in, I'm a junior DC but currently taking part in interrogations and prosecution of suspected looters.

    You should see the state of our jails. Chavs, Chavs everywhere.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)05:47 No.4185667
    >>4185607

    What's your opinion on the police/government denying the British people the right to self defense during these riots?

    http://www.u.tv/News/UK-riots-Amazon-withdraws-truncheons-after-bumper-sales/fa1e46d8-c664-430c-8d52
    -4d16d84fe5a6
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)05:52 No.4185692
    >>4185607

    A bit off topic, can I ask how long it took you to get into the police force and move up to become a DC?

    Been wanting to join up but there are no positions at all within my city or any of the nearby boroughs.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)05:54 No.4185695
    >>4185667

    No one has been denied the right to defend themelves; we were in fact letting people know that using weapons against rioters who entered their home was justified.

    Personally though, I want as few weapons on the streets as possible. The main principle of public order policing is to outgun and overwhelm any problem. If everyone starts carrying batons, that makes a constables truncheon less of a deterent. I don't want us to have to carry Tasers as a rule of thumb but thst will happen.

    Personally, if you start using weapons on the street I'll have to divert my attention from genuine looter to you and I don't want that.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)06:01 No.4185720
    >>4185692

    I joined as a Special about 4 years ago, became a Constable after a year of that then spent the best part of 3 years on the beat. I've only just joined CID and still count as a TDC (Trainee Detective Constable) but its all good. Its hit and miss when vacancies arise and I'm lucky I work for the Met but I'm sure you'll do fine mate.

    If you're interested, look at being a Special on a part time basis or becoming a PCSO first. Its invaluable experience.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)06:43 No.4185853
    >>4185607
    What are the emotions and reasons of many of the rioters? Are any of them justified? Do they have regret for their actions? What are their ambitions? What do they think of the lies of other people they've pissed off? Are they happy about the attention they've received? etc.

    I really wanna go up to one of the chavs bragging about how 'ard they are for smashing shit up... And twat them in the face really fucking hard.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)06:45 No.4185864
    >>4185853
    lives*
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)06:49 No.4185886
    Martin Luther King once said that riots were the voice of the unheard.
    In England riots are apparently the voice of people who have absolutely nothing interesting to say to begin with.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)07:03 No.4185928
    >>4185853

    You're not the only one mate, believe me. I've seen good friends of mine who are solid officers nearly lose it and seriously let rip at someone. I work for the child abuse squad and actually don't work a beat anymore so its been a while since I've been involved in a public order event but the riots were dreadful. The one thing the media just hasn't mentioned was the sheer terror the residents felt - it'll be a long time before I can properly stop hearing people screaming because everything they owned in the world is going up in flames in front of them.

    I used to feel sorry for these kids, they really do have a shit start in life and yeah, we give them a hard time but this is how they show that frustration? They think its all a laugh, they bang on about rich people and the government when a tv crew is present because thats what the BBC want to hear but its all bollocks. They just want to go out, have a laugh and throw bottles at children fleeing.

    Trust me, the TSG were armed and more then willing to open fire with baton rounds if we'd been allowed. It wouldn't have been effective but fuck, it would've felt good to hit some of the bastards.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)07:10 No.4185943
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    So I asked a week ago if anyone in Tottenham witnessed the disturbances on the first night.

    I got banned from ALL boards for 7 days. Now I came back here to see a sticky on the same topic I got banned for mentioning.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)07:36 No.4186010
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    >>4185943
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)07:51 No.4186038
    >>4185943
    learn to restart your router
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)09:07 No.4186297
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    The solution? Call in the fucking mounted police and let them use as much force as they like.

    And tear gas, lots and lots of tear gas.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)10:16 No.4186517
    >>4186297
    Sounds reasonable. It's always fun to see the police use a force that can be defeated with marbles.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)10:51 No.4186682
    > Talk about this to my friends
    > Express desire to be tough on crime and pro self defence
    > Get called right wing fascist
    > Ditch liberal retard friends
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)11:02 No.4186731
    >tough on crimes
    That's okay, 100% legit

    >pro self defense
    Eeeewww...nope.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)11:08 No.4186758
    >>4186731

    You just gonna present your ass to the next person that tries to rob you then?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)11:15 No.4186793
    >>4186758

    I'd rather be confident in the police and the state to protect me...that's what they're for.
    Promoting self-defense will results in a lot of incidents, where only the strongest survives...Plus, who can tell which is the frontier between self-defense and attack? It's basically a matter of perception...which leads to confusion.
    As far as I know we're not animals nor savages. As civilized people we should rely on the police and the state to provide and efficient protection of the honest citizens against the uncivilized ones.
    Look at the U.S. ...
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)11:16 No.4186797
    Glad im from Ireland, as our self-defence laws are pretty good. The rule of thumb is that if you're going to kill someone, make damn fucking sure that he's on your property when you do
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)11:21 No.4186820
    >>4186797

    I think you mean Northern Ireland
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)11:25 No.4186836
    >>4186758
    In this country, "pro self-defence" means "castle doctrine". Nobody seriously doubts the right to use reasonable force to repel an attack.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)11:25 No.4186838
    >>4186793

    > who can tell which is the frontier between self-defense and attack

    If an intruder is in your house a pre-emptive attack IS self defence.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)11:31 No.4186852
    >>4186838
    A pre-emptive attack is NEVER self-defence. But then it's not exactly pre-emptive if he's already inside your home.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)11:32 No.4186859
    >>4186820
    Nope.jpg, i live in Best Ireland
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)11:37 No.4186881
    >>4186859

    You can't get a gun for self defence then shoot an intruder in the Republic only Northern Ireland.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)11:51 No.4186953
    >>4185886
    This. Nothing says repressed and ignored like nicking a PS3 and a 42" TV from Currys.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)11:52 No.4186956
    >>4186881
    Never said anything about a gun, dumbass
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)12:02 No.4186994
    So is the rioting still happening?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)12:51 No.4187026
    >>4186956

    If you can't shoot people you don't have much to brag about.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)12:58 No.4187036
    >>4186994
    Nah, it's all quite now. Mass prosecutions are going on and everybody is mad. But no riots.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)12:59 No.4187043
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    >>4187026
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)13:20 No.4187106
    >BREAKING NEWS: Jersey Police dealing with major incident

    wat?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)13:21 No.4187117
    >>4187106

    Lol everyone who lives on Jersey is a millionaire. What would they riot about?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)13:23 No.4187128
    >>4187117

    dunno just came up on bbc website tho
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)13:24 No.4187135
    >SkyNewsBreak Sky News Newsdesk
    Jersey police: Multiple deaths following incident at a property in St Helier
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)13:26 No.4187145
    >>4187135

    Must be unrelated.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)14:55 No.4187478
    Best parents or worst parents ever?

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/london-olympic-ambassador-arrested-for-rioting-%E2%80%94-after-paren
    ts-turn-her-in/
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)14:56 No.4187483
    >>4187478

    Since smacking children is now child abuse only the state can set kids straight.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)14:57 No.4187488
    >>4187478

    > "called 999 after seeing her on TV"

    She couldn't use the non emergency number?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)15:23 No.4187649
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    >>4173163
    Yet every time I visit this board it's nothing but a clusterfuck of racebaiting and jingoism with no discussion of actual international issues, largely because you guys are too fucking stupid to actually engage any issue beyond the 3rd grade level.

    >>4173135
    This. Hooray for having a single sandbox to discuss matters of relevance or anything genuinely international. FFS this board has basically become racetrolling and /history/ nothing more. Worst modding of any board ever. The few people who actually wish to engage any issue get banned, whereas the trolls and retards shitting up the board are given free reign. Of course, the bans are always global, and anyone unaware of the various at times arbitrary wordfilters gets banned from all boards instantaneously.

    >>4173295
    So what do you think of Cameron attempting to ban/censor the internet? I find it hilarious that when Iran, Syria, and Libya do it, it's because they hate freedom, but when Britain does it...
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)15:34 No.4187709
    >>4187649
    >I find it hilarious that when Iran, Syria, and Libya do it, it's because they hate freedom, but when Britain does it...
    And there you realize it!
    You don't actually have the democracy, dumbass. You live in the same dictatorship country, only it masks its appearance pretty well. Enjoy your 1984.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)15:41 No.4187742
    >>4187709
    >They're all brainwashed sheeple except me!
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)15:45 No.4187769
    >>4187742
    Apparently yes, if you consider a country that violates your freedoms a democracy
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)15:55 No.4187827
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    >>4187742
    Censoring the Internet? Check
    Constant lying in mass media? Check
    Hurting people for incovenient questions? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE - Check
    You live in dictatorship. Deal with it.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)16:13 No.4187910
    >>4187827

    I wasn't aware Florida was in Britain
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)16:15 No.4187921
    >>4187910
    Britain is a sattelite of America. It makes little difference
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)16:16 No.4187931
    >>4187921

    I think you're just covering for how hard you just fucked up there.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)16:25 No.4187984
    >>4187931
    I don't care what you think. To consider Britain as a powerful, independent country - is a joke. West must be viewed as a whole - and the whole picture doesn't look very appealing
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)16:26 No.4187991
    >>4187984

    So what third world country do you hail from?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)16:35 No.4188021
    >>4187921
    Don't know about harming people, but first two statements sound true enough. That anon has the point nonetheless.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)16:36 No.4188024
    >>4188021
    I was adressing to this >>4187827
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)16:37 No.4188027
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-14523741

    Knifing in Jersey not related to rioting
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)16:48 No.4188067
    britain confirmed for absolute shit
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)16:48 No.4188069
    Very sad. Hope this sittuation have a good end.By now, europes became savages.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)16:53 No.4188092
    > Riots finished 3 days ago
    > Thread still here.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)18:10 No.4188391
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pAC0YSmK0g

    This man is my hero.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)18:30 No.4188477
    >>4188391

    this man speaks the truth
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)19:24 No.4188744
    Why did they set fire to Sony?
    To whom are they angry?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)19:27 No.4188765
    >>4188744
    >Why did they set fire to Sony?
    Some people just want to watch the world burn.

    That sony warehouse was stocked with lots of independent record labels like Rough Trade and Domino, and heaps of independent artists that had back catalogues stored there. It's a damned shame. To think of all that vinyl melting
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)19:41 No.4188821
    >>4188765
    Is it good in understanding of having been burnt because Sony used the artist for the moneymaking?
    And, is there a free criminal for pleasure, too?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)19:44 No.4188831
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    An extremely interesting and humorous analysis on the riots by respected comedian and former game reviewer:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/14/charlie-brooker-prevent-more-riots
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)19:57 No.4188864
    >>4173092

    reported for /nevvshit/
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)20:56 No.4189111
    >>4188864

    You forgot to sage
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)21:19 No.4189183
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    There has never been a time in history where people have ever truly acted in the interest of their fellow man. One can only sit around for so long. This generation of young adults is furious. They have a blind hate for authority, and little respect for themselves. At the start of the new millennium, the world seemed to stabilize. People began to live their live just to live it. Be it poor or well off. Yes pockets of the world over still were fighting for something. Survival, a person's god given rights, or change. The young adults of more privileged countries sat and wasted away. They weren't fighting for anything, and if things were Ideal no one should have to fight. But its out human nature to pursue more than just ok. Nothing is ever enough. And being exposed to the media as much as these young adults have, it began to change them. You cant expect someone to sit around all their lives and not question their existence. The crying boy in India has a purpose, his purpose is to find water. Because the rivers have become so polluted, you can't even bathe in it. But how many days can one sit in front of the television and not become tired. How many hours can you spend on the computer and not want to hear the sound of another person's voice, to know you are really being heard. Privilege brought about by lifestyle robbed these young adults of purpose. There is no rest from searching for their purpose. All the while politicians and committees govern what they do and how they conduct their lives. Where as these people of power should being doing this to keep order and help people live comfortably. They choose to abuse their posts. All for greed.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)21:20 No.4189189
    >>4189183
    We can't ignore any problem, and hope it goes away. Be it war, disease, political views, religious beliefs. And not everyone has the right solution to these problems. But its the job of those who govern the people to make sure peace remains. I don't want to convey that people of privilege are more important than those of poverty. But in the end it is those people of privilege who run the show. And it is the way they run this show that has created a rift. When you turn your back on your own in the pursuit of greed, to solidify your own story, your legacy. You burn those who gave you that power. Over the past decade the young adults of the world have grown to hate people in the position of power. Because it is these people they identify as instigaters as much as peace keepers. And though allot of the opinions of these young adults are ignorant. Its the people in power who are responsible for this ignorance. You ignored us. Told us to sit on the side lines, that you could handle this. That we should just continue our mundane lives. It just so happens that the sect in power are just as ignorant to ignore the ignorant. Yes its hard to hold a position of power. Constantly swinging a double edged sword, but you swung right too many times. You pissed the people off. You made them question your competence. And the truth is, they are right. The children raised on TV and social networks are right. The power needs to shift. Power is held by the old, the stubborn. And it shows through constant stupidity. Take for Example the Video Games Rights Act in America. How can you even question that it is protected by the very ideal you are supposed to uphold. You do so because you are scared, you are so closed minded that you can't understand that the world is changing, and unless you change with it, We will make you change. You will be forced to step down.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)21:23 No.4189205
    >>4189189

    Now when I called the major populace ignorant, that was to prove a point. Not all people are ignorant. And the media did not breed the current generation of young adults. It influence those who could be influenced. But to ignore who it affected is ignorant itself. Yes the stereotype is the non-white population. But here is where this needs to set straight. Yes people are prejudiced, and sometimes they have a right to be. This holds true in America especially. People are highly prejudice. And this is not their fault, its the way those they are prejudice act. Example a gangster African American. Now it varies, but lets use the following depiction. Sagged pants, unfolded brim on a baseball cap, oversized shirts. People will immediately form a prejudice of these people. Because of the things they see in the news associated with characters such as these. But the people don’t hate these gangsters, they hate gangster culture. This gangster culture is bred of ignorance. Anyone who claims this is racist, is in fact ignorant. Their is only one dominate race on Earth, this is the human race. Panther is a Jaguar, with darker fur. They are both cats, they both have similar motives, needs, and habits. But a panther in captivity is exposed to a different culture. And if released into the wild it becomes a burden to its fellow Jaguar. This comes back to the ignorance and empty of young adults. They have had everything given to them, they have nothing to fight for. So they just sit around, and leaving problems and not tending to them is foolish. Telling the younger populace that you don't need them, when in fact they made you, is flat out stupid.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)21:25 No.4189215
    >>4189205
    This is in response to the riots in London. It is easy to say that its a matter of "race" but its the result problems ignored, being pushed to their limits. You can go back thousands, millions, hundreds of years. depending on your views, and see that it is a human need to express ones self, to try to find a purpose, to find acceptance. And acceptance was found for some in the rock revolution post WWII, for some the gangster rap revolution of the 90s or the Grunge. Now these are just examples in music but anything one person likes, more are likely to as well. Whether they want this known or not is up to them. But when you share a common ideal or purpose you tend to stick together. Now we have the odd situation where people got together not for music, art, sports. But for a united cry of "enough is enough". Though they acted in ignorance, it was because they are tired of being told to sit and accept the shit that happens around them. They have effectively created a culture, a problem that rivals that of the debate of region, human rights, free trade, and the global economy. In fact they don't rival these problems, they transcended these issues. They are the result of all these. The sum of all means. And if major change isn't brought about globally. This culture will tear itself apart from the inside out. Cause if the culture that breeds and exits within the privileged nations, destroys it. We are in for the biggest fire the world has ever seen.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)21:30 No.4189249
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    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)21:54 No.4189374
    This riot spans class, race, and cultural identity.

    Really a head-scratcher, but it has the same traces of Greece in it, and it's likely to reignite just the same.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)22:06 No.4189420
    > This riot spans class

    Lolno
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)22:12 No.4189443
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    >>4189374
    >>4189374
    >>4189374
    >>4189374
    >>4189374
    >>4189374
    >>4189374
    >>4189374
    >>4189374
    >>4189374
    >>4189374
    >>4189374
    >>4189374
    >>4189374
    >>4189374
    >>4189374

    Not really all that complicated, newfriend. Allow me to break it down for you.

    >Be on summer holidays
    >Weather's been pretty crappy so far
    >Suddenly, heat
    >At home, not much to do
    >Get a Group BBM-message
    >"Hey Anons! Meet up outside McDonalds on Random High St for some fun!"
    >Think, OK, what the hell
    >Go, see 100 people just milling around, see friends with you too
    >Someone smashes the window of a shoe shop
    >"OMG that's nuts!"
    >but then ...No police, nobody around, temptation gets the better of you, you go in and take a pair of trainers.

    Like I said, not that complicated. This was the reality for 90% of the looters. Most people on 4chan would do the same thing, I reckon.

    Setting fire to things is something quite different .. but then the ppl that commited arson make up a tiny minority of ppl that were involved.
    >> anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)22:16 No.4189465
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQZ5Hmkkacw
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)22:26 No.4189519
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    It's a bunch of disgusting low-lifes breaking stuff that isn't theirs.

    Just send-in the army and round their asses up already.

    This bullshit has gone on for too long.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)22:35 No.4189555
    >>4189519
    This.

    Line the muds up and execute them on the spot. Send the chavs to Afghanistan for some re-education.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)22:52 No.4189659
    >>4189183
    >>4189189
    >>4189205
    >>4189215
    >thinks there was some social relevance to the riots
    holy fuck did you just herp so fucking hard. it was a bunch of chavs out on the rob. see >>4189443
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)00:59 No.4190264
    >>4189659

    nah mate they were "redistributing the wealth"

    because nothing brings the nobs down a notch like stealing a mass produced TV and burning your neighbours house down
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)01:25 No.4190347
    >>4189659
    Stupid hippy thinks everything is about him and his beliefs rather than some chavs trying to nick a widescreen plasma TV.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)01:57 No.4190429
    Thinks that a NATIONWIDE riot has nothing to do with a larger social movement.

    Boy, sure is summerfed in here.

    You are so full of shit, dude.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)01:59 No.4190437
    Wants to loot.

    Burns building.

    Never gets caught or covered in court media.

    Brilliant!
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:01 No.4190447
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    >2011
    >Believes official story
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:06 No.4190463
    >>4190429
    >Believes that a buch of looting chavs represent the national consciousness, and that chavs represent the working class.

    >dude
    13 year-old American detected. Piss off back to California "dude"
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:16 No.4190495
    >>4190463
    Aren't most brits chavs anyway?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:44 No.4190583
    The superior white race is falling from graces!! What country is next!?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:44 No.4190585
    >>4190495
    Aren't most Americans rednecks anyway?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:52 No.4190611
    >>4176712
    >>4189519
    >>4180197

    You Brit gun-polishers are HILARIOUS!

    Because IT WORKED SO WELL IN BELFAST!

    Wait, sorry about the false generalization . . .can you even own a gun w/o being a member of the peerage? Whadduya have to do, show your loyalty by letting your hereditary aristocracy get its noncey meatshiv into your 6 year old before they let you have one? I guess 'truncheon-polishers' might be more appropriately representative and/or Freudian...
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:29 No.4190746
    >>4173375

    THIS is what I'm interested in, the resulting policy changes, and the implications of one particular policy that I don't think anybody else has had the common sense to point out.

    Given the chaos everywhere, the world is watching, interested in the success (and tactical application) of Cameron's crackdown, especially the whole 'CCTV trace' method of video and biometric identification of rioters and the subsequent roundup of the participants at their known abodes; its pretty much the first western state to do so. And no doubt the Brits will feel a false sense of success at the trick, and will learn to rapidly expedite and streamline the process so its quick and exportable. Like email quick.

    I say "false" because with this policy you have removed all incentive for a rioter to break from the security of the pack, cool down, GET OFF THE STREETS and go home. To paraphrase my favorite statement about owing the bank money, when a hundred rioters can't go home anymore its their problem. When ten-thousand rioters can't go home anymore its the army's problem.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:00 No.4190855
    >>4190495
    Yes.

    >>4190585
    And yes.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:12 No.4190872
    >If you want to discuss news: >>>/newnew/
    >If you want to discuss politics: >>>/newpol/
    >sticky news + politics thread
    Sure is fellating penises in here.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:31 No.4190919
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    >>4189659
    >Cameron said it was crime pure and simple, that must be the case! There can be no other facets so let's not even consider them!
    >Claiming there might be socioeconomical causes to events? Stop trying to excuse these thugs! We don't want to know how to prevent disturbances, just make sure they're followed by the strictest of punishments!
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:40 No.4191080
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    >>4173375
    WHAT?

    You know these riots would have been A LOT WORSE if they'd been in a place that allows people firearms, like the US? Some people in England banded to protect properties with baseball bats. Now look at the 1992 South Central LA Riots:
    >The Korean American community, seeing the police force's abandonment of Koreatown, organized armed security teams composed of store workers, who defended their livelihoods from assault by the mobs. Open gun battles were televised as Korean shopkeepers shot at the mob to protect their businesses, and most likely their lives, from crowds of violent looters, some of whom were armed.

    It sounds like absolute Wild West. And during these riots, 53 people died and thousands were injured. Isn't it pretty obvious that if the common citizen has a gun for "self defence", then the criminal attacking the police or stealing a TV will come packing too? How will that be a better outcome?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:57 No.4191137
    >>4191080
    Fuck that

    The important question is how many non-scum people died in that riot?

    As in victims of the riots?

    How many were there? I don't care if a bunch of assholes destroying shit got shot, really don't.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:05 No.4191167
    If they want this to stop happening, they'll have a do a few things:

    1.) Break up the council estates. Keep the same amount of council houses, as they're necessary, just dont put them in clusters, and the filth cant congregate. Bear in mind that rule no.1 of concentration camps is to split the prisoners into small groups, so that they cant band together

    2.) Cap immigration a bit. Not because blacks and muslims are more violent than whites, but because letting lots of very poor foreigners in and then letting them live in ghettos is not a particularly good idea if you dont want riots

    3.) Give the younger chavs something to do with their time, some sort of job to keep them busy. How about conscription? Or making them work on building projects?

    4.) Cut off the dole after a certain amount of time on it- it'll force people to go look for jobs

    5.) Improve the quality of education that these chavs are getting so that thy can better themselves

    6.) Scrap university fees
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:10 No.4191179
    >>4191167

    I can agree with all of that, education and employment are in my opinion should be the priority of a government first and foremost.

    With that being said, the current generaton of chavs is far beyond salvation. What can you do about them?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:19 No.4191220
    >>4191179
    Well the army would definitely oppose it, but maybe you could conscript some of them? Might give them a bit of discipline, and they'd be right at home given that most squaddies are chavs anyway.

    If the government start breaking up the estates, and forcibly move some of them, they might move into a better area, which might have a good effect on them.

    Also, more job training, education and degree programmes, etc. Basically, no matter how long theyve been chavs, if you take them out of the chav setting and start educating them and get them working, theres a good chance theyll become decent citizens.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)07:41 No.4191578
    can someone tell my why the riots only happened in England and not scotland or wales?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)07:45 No.4191604
    >>4191578

    Less blacks, not enough to form a critical mass.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)08:03 No.4191693
    I'd have the chavs & unemployed work on their own estates

    You've given them work, and hopefully they should respect what they've worked on. Anything to keep them out of trouble

    Labour's 'Send everyone to university', was a waste of money and done just to get the unemployment figure down.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)08:06 No.4191707
    >>4191578
    Scotlands not had a riot since 1919 apparently, but its true that there are very very few blacks here, 98% white is a percentage that gets banded about a lot. Scotland has just as much poverty and unemployment problems as the English cities, but i think theres a far stronger sense of community amongst the Scots, and policing is far more pro active, they don't stand for any nonsense or they draw batons very quickly.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)08:08 No.4191724
    >>4191707

    If you want a Scottish riot close all the pubs and you will get one
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)08:11 No.4191743
    >>4191724
    thats just a standard level of mental for them
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)09:06 No.4191962
    >>4191220

    Conscription won't work because they will resist any attempts to break them. When you go into the army, you expect to be broken and re-molded into a soldier and you are mentally prepared for it. Someone who is resentful is just going to be a handful.

    The British Army has never been in favor of conscription or national service unless in times of dire emergency (Read: International conflict that could reach its shores) as it's just bringing in someone who doesn't want to be a soldier and they would have to shove extra time and resources into them unlike someone who willingly signs up and already has the mental drive to be the best.



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