>>4135172

No, it's complete nonesense. We saved all that stuff for the Irish.

>believe hollywood propaganda

let me guess. You liked Schindler's list right?

>>4135185
What are you talking about? That movie is completely historically accurate.

Mel Gibson singlehandedly defeated the Evil British Empire and guaranteed American independence.

Read a little history someday

Modern white Americans are the monsters of this world. Evil disgusting people and a threat to humanity.

The villain in that movie was a composite of several real British officers. And yes, the British did shit like that.


Hell, the British are the ones who taught the natives about scalping.

For that matter, the British were the inventors of the concentration camp.

>learn history from non-documental movies
>nope.avi

>Did Britfags actually do all this?

The reality is much worse. I thought the movie portrayed the brits through rose colored glasses. The hatred of brits was so great that there were talks by the Founders of having Ancient Greek or German becoming the language the US.

Now you know how the Boers and Scottish people feel.

>>4135199

The English were saints in America compared to what they have done Scottish

>>4135196
>For that matter, the British were the inventors of the concentration camp.

Yes, but NOT the death camp. The mass deaths at the Boer concentration camps was accidental.

You see, we thought it would be a good idea to put all the good (read, loyal to the Empire) Boers in camps, kill everyone outside the camps, then let the Boers out again. Unfortunately, there was a supply shortage and a disease epidemic, and well, you know the rest of the story.

Yes the British did stuff like that, but not ths event specifically

But you know what? So did the Americans. Probably a third of the colonies population, mostly conservatives, wished to remain loyal to Britain, and the continental militia waged campaigns of intimidation and terror against them to keep them in line. After the war, the majority of them moved to Canada.

And you know what else? Americans do that sort of shit today.

I'm sure a lot of retards still believe the US saved Europe from the nazis.

Thanks to hollywood propaganda, Spieblerg, and all the other profesionnal liars, and also educational propaganda in the american educational system.

>>4135199

Actually, George Washington and others did not want to secede from the Empire. They simply wanted representation in Westminster.

There were a lot of people and states who detested the idea of not being part of the Empire.

>>4135216

>The past
>you're living in it

Scots have been on equal ground with English since about 1600, when the king of Scotland became the king of England leading to personal union and full political union 100 years later.

Stop watching that Brave-heart bullshit and thinking you have any idea about history. Even then the Scottish occupation was fairly standard in medieval terms.

>>4135233
This. We did atrocities, but so did you.

And we don't use water boarding today, when all is said and done.

>>4135196
>>4135218

>concentration camps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn48bPq_t8o&t=2m55s

>>4135216

I'm in no way diminishing the genocide of Scots by the English but what the brits did in America was also one of the most egregious crimes against humanity.

>>4135233

Yep. Americans conveniently overlook how lynchings of Loyalists were used to keep the civilian population in line during the Revolution (not in the urban areas, but in the country and frontier).

>>4135218
>The mass deaths at the Boer concentration camps was accidental.
What nerve. People died accidentally of starvation.

>>4135251

That church burning where Heath Ledger's poor little wife dies never happened, stop operating on the assumption that it did

>>4135236
>I'm sure a lot of retards still believe the US saved Europe from the nazis.

Bitches don't know about logistics.

>Now you know how Scottish people feel.

"och ma true english master can ah lick yer shoon afore massacrin some paddies fir yis?"

Gibson is the plastic paddy version of a scotsman so I'm not surprised if he's going to try and make the English look like boogiemen at any chance he gets

but if he's still making movies the joos clearly already had dirt on him as they do with anyone in hollywood

>That church burning where Heath Ledger's poor little wife dies never happened

unlike the drug overdose where Heath dies amirite

All of this could have been avoided if George III hadn't been a cunt

U WANT WESTMINSTER REPRESENTATION? TOO BAD, HERE BRITISH ARMY, FUCK U.

>>4135274
http://www.cracked.com/article_18442_5-reasons-founding-fathers-were-kind-dicks.html

It's Cracked, I know, but read it. Your Founding Fathers weren't exactly perfect.

>>4135255
>>4135233
>>4135218
>>4135216
>>4135199
>>4135172

Yes, yes, yes.

Britain, specifically England, is the source of all the world's problems. England invented death, disease, famine, plague, hangovers, and fuzzy-hair days.

England raped, pillaged, robbed, and murdered every single people which they encountered. They was never anything good ever made by England or done by an English person.

They are all murderers, robbers, rogues, and genocidal maniacs.


Children, grow up and read more.

>>4135172

Probably worse. No-one with any lingering traces of self-respect ever enlisted as a redcoat.

it's war, atrocities are bound to occur
and its almost never just one side committing them

The British skinned Maoris to sell their tattooed skin as a novelty in England.
Yes, they're criminals but paint themselves as civilized.
Also, Opium wars. Why isn't anybody disgusted of the British as much as they are of Cartels and drug wars in Mexico? Their empire survived on drug dealing for many many years.

OP that's war so yes they probably did it but the British are our semi-bros so we forgive them for any American Revolution stuff

besides we blames that particular king not the English people of the time

>>4135172
You can't bake a cake without breaking a few eggs, bro. Oppression is a tool -- using it is just being pragmatic. Just look at China. If British subjects hadn't been so uppity and just did what the government said like Chinese people today do, they'd be an unstoppable empire.

>>4135299
blamed*

after all the American Revolutionists were English themselves and founded New England, New York, New Hampshire, New Jersey ect

>>4135296

Britain invented the Corporation and the Free Market. Something with which a certain western colony is obsessed.

You like the certain beneficial ends of the Empire, but not the means.

Grow up.

>>4135285

>>They was never anything good ever made by England or done by an English person.

We invented evolution mate. If it wasn't for us you'd still be monkeys.

>>4135309
come to think of it that's Mel Gibson's worst nightmare haha

>>4135315

and i'm pretty sure steven hawking invented gravity

Feels good being the world champions of evil.

>>4135315
We DID invent the computer.

Which always makes me chuckle, when I see someone using a computer to type 'Britain never invented anything!'

>>4135285
Right, is that how you call British Apologists, now? Historians? Your pathetic strawman isn't enough to divert the attention from the reality of historical facts. The British were criminal and would do anything for a buck. The only ones who are worse than them, and that, only in Africa, are the Belgians.
They saw anyone who wasn't British as subhuman, and therefore, fair game. And they still think like that, to this day, but alas, they ain't got no military or economic power anymore.

>>4135274
>All of this could have been avoided if George III hadn't been a cunt


Nah, the King wasn't the problem. Lots of Anericans were fine with the King at first (until the whole proto-nationalism kicked in). The parliament was being a complete and massive cunt though.

>U WANT WESTMINSTER REPRESENTATION?

The founders would have been fine if we'd had the same self rule situation that the colonies had originally been under. Under the crown, but functionally independent. But the British Parliament was being a dick and arbitrarily changing the colonial charters, imposing laws and taxes, etc...

>>4135336
>The British were criminal and would do anything for a buck.

Dang right. As did many other empires before us, and I'm sure many after.

>And they still think like that, to this day,
Sorry chap, that's just not true.

>they ain't got no military or economic power anymore.
'They ain't got no' aside, this statement is untrue as well.

You're very ignorant.

Britain redeemed itself when it sacrificed it's empire to stop Nazi Germany, when it could have made peace with Hitler and kept it's place in the pecking order.

You can all go home now, this thread is over

>>4135343
Read >>4135284

Please.

>>4135331
The Abacus is cheaper and as efficient. But beyond British mental skills.

>>4135351
An abacus takes time though. In what it takes for one man to do an equation with an abacus, a computer can do hundreds.

Also, can an abacus browse the Internet? I thought not.

>>4135349
>USSR
>fighting for freedom

>>4135351
The car is more humane than a rickshaw. But beyond Asian eye-hand coordination skills.

>>4135345
>Dang right. As did many other empires before us, and I'm sure many after.
This is called *two wrongs make a right* Every criminal apologist uses the fallacy, Israelis, Americans, they all resort to this to justify their atrocities. It's not an argument.
Your bullshit is dismissed.

>>4135336

>>They saw anyone who wasn't British as subhuman

Yep, that's pretty much our worldveiw now as well.

>>4135367
The rickshaw was also invented by the British in the Empire.

>>4135368
I'm NOT JUSTIFYING IT. Understand this. I am not.

What I am pointing out is that many others have been just as bad, so you picking just us out to say 'Oh look all these people are pure evil because they committed these atrocities over a hundred years ago!' is stupid.

THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING.

>>4135349

“Why did you, in 1939, go and wage war upon the one Man and the one people who could have kept back Bolshevism? Why did you ally yourselves with the Russians in order to crush National Socialism? You only deserve to perish, and I heartily wish you do! I wish I have the pleasure of seeing you, one day, not all exterminated — that would be too glorious and too merciful an end — but ground down to the level of a twentieth-rate nation, mourning for your past splendour for a generation or two and then forgetting even that; a nation having less in common with the builders of the historic British empire than the unfortunate Greeks of today have with those of the Periclean age. I wish I could come back, from century to century, and tell you, with merciless glee, over and over again, until you sink into the unconsciousness of the dead: ‘This gnawing decay is the wage of England’s crime in 1939.’"

-Defiance by Savitri Devi chapter five

>>4135349
I'd hardly call enabling one form of tyranny over another redeeming.

>>4135368
Seems par for the course when 2nd tier empires, especially those in the East are criticized, that people always bring out "well British/Americans did the same thing so you have no place to say anything!, HUMPH!" So deal with it.

>>4135345
All empires went to the dogs, yours included. The difference, you fail to acknowledge reality. And it's been more than 60 years, now.

>>4135378

Hitler declared war on us you stupid fuckhead

And Bolshevism collapsed a few decades later anyway, so fuck you

Looks like Fuhrer Tavington got an overdose of American Freedom.

>>4135350

Did, not impress. Mostly utter bullshit.

>>4135374
lolololololol, butthurt revisionist detected
rickshaws were a development from litters, which were more prominent in the East

>>4135388
>The difference, you fail to acknowledge reality

What does that even mean? We KNOW our Empire finished.

What are you expecting us to do?

>>4135388
No Britain would deny that the Empire is finished. Everyone can see this.

People complained about the fall of the Roman Empire, the Ottoman, the British; and now the American.

Rise and fall.

>>4135375
That's called justifying with a fallacy. And writing in all caps doesn't magically turn you fallacy into an argument. Sorry, but that's reality, something that you don't seem to be familiar with.

ITT Butthurt colonials attempting to troll their masters getting counter-trolled

History is full of stories of butchery and villainy, the simple fact is back then we didn't have nuclear weapons and drone aircraft to prove to people we were top dog.

The equivalent of a missile strike back then was to massacre a small village.

Anyway, it's not as if america doesn't have it's share of nutcases - heck, there are entire spaghetti westerns about them and their murderous ways.

>>4135406

>>4135401
>No Britain would deny that the Empire is finished. Everyone can see this.

Lolwut. Politicians were suggesting that the Empire be dissolved as soon as India seceded.

demmed colonials and yellow chaps shoot you all with me Wetherby, what?

>>4135372
Where do you think this racism and arrogance in Americans come from? They justified their crimes by saying, the white race is superior, and it's ok to do anything to other people, because they're trash. Black people are apes and so on and so forth. It's an ideology that is firmly rooted in American education.

>>4135391

I found this for you <3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48rz8udZBmQ

>>4135416
>categorizing the entirety of Americans into the racist group

>>4135416

Erm, the americans were british though, it's why we allowed you to sow the seeds of dissent where in other areas we immediately cracked down and killed everyone.

The only reason the americans got as far as they did is because for the most part we saw them as fellow countrymen.

>>4135391
Wat, we gave him the ultimatum. We declared war on them. Hitler wanted peace with Britain.

>>4135416
-1/10

This thread needs a Union Flag.

Every Briton knows how lucky they are to be part of the Master Race, but the amount of childish jealousy in here is tear-inducing.

Fuck, I love being British.

>>4135419
And they're not? This whole board presents factual evidence of how pervading the belief that the white race is superior in America and all over the world.

>>4135427
Australian Here, thanks for making us such an awesome country, we love you guys!

So much nationalist dickwaving and whiny third-world socialists like >>4135368 ITT

>>4135172
To answer your question OP, no atrocities like that took place. By the standards of the seventeenth century the war was astonishingly civilised. Jesus Christ, if the Redcoats went around burning people in churches it'd have kept the USA out of WWI.

>>4135433

It's a shame mel gibson doesn't agree with you and continues to produce anglophobic trash.

ITT: colonial revisionism

You brits lost your empire because you were weak.

>Meanwhile, in America

>>4135444

> implying we didn't lose our empire because the colonies became stronger than the homeland.

If anything we lost the empire because we grew too strong.

>UK
>lost their Empire
>implying the Commonwealth of Nations doesn't exist.

>>4135459
> implying that isn't primarily a trade racket.

>>4135429
>mfw this whole board is made up of people all over the world
>mfw this board proves that the entire world recognizes the superiority of white people
>mfw you alone try to shove Americans into the racist category
>mfw white people are superior and you're the actual racist

Sad day for brits but they deserved it.

>>4135465
>white people
>implying "White" is a race of people

Anglo-Saxon, Baltic, Mediterranean, Hispanic, Germanic, Eurasian. they are races, "White" is a description of a skin tone

>>4135444

Britain lost it's empire due to being left virtually bankrupt having carried the flag for democracy alone between 1939 and 1941, while Amerifats sat on their fat asses watching Nazis burn Europe, with insolvency only averted in 1946 after the negotiation of a $3.5 billion loan from the United States ($39 billion in 2011), the last instalment of which was repaid in 2006.

And white Amerifats are losing their empire because Republicans and batshit crazy right-wingers are too stupid to be able to govern let alone manage U.S international affairs.

Well done on those wars in Iraq and Afghanistan you got everyone into. They accomplished alot and weren't just a pointless waste of peoples lives.. Britain lost it's empire by going bankrupt fighting Nazis. White America lost it's empire by going bankrupt getting it's asses kicked by third world peasants it pointlessly attacked in wars of no strategic value. That says everything you need to know about the difference between the British Empire and the white Amerifat empire.

Always play as Britain in the total war series. God bless the motherland

>>4135450
The 'point' of the colonies - at least the 'white' ones - was always to establish self-governing nations.

The Empire didn't die, it simply evolved into the 'Anglosphere'. The chair of the Anglosphere then passed to the Americans after WWI. There now exists a group of nations with relatively similar customs, laws, and language; which, when called upon, will all strive to help each other in times of crisis.

Invading countries with troops is too old-fashioned.

>>4135484
the nazis were allowed to burn europe because everybody fucking hated the british and didn't give a fuck

>>4135465
Americans are an example of how the British ideology of the superiority is rooted in one culture.
The British didn't colonize America only, they colonized and imposed their ideology all around the world. And the American who think according to British ideology spread this belief all over the world. The language we use to communicate is their language, and what better tool than a language to spread any ideology?

>>4135486
> invade spain as england.
> dat glorious feel.

>>4135477

White is just PC slang for Aryan

>>4135416
>Where do you think this racism and arrogance in Americans come from? They justified their crimes by saying, the white race is superior, and it's ok to do anything to other people, because they're trash. Black people are apes and so on and so forth. It's an ideology that is firmly rooted in American education.

>>4135496
Good post.

This is something George Orwell knew well. Language IS culture, and culture IS language.

The use of language is England's greatest export.

>>4135444
>>4135444
>>4135444
>>4135444
>2011
>not knowing that the Queen of England secretly runs the world

>>4135172

It's fucking war; everyone does it. Even us. Just look at what we did to the South when they rebelled. Google Sherman. Or Fallujah if you want something more modern.

Though I'm pretty sure they weren't as bad as was shown in the movies, you did have some real assholes in the British officer corps at the time (as there are in every large military), and most of them weren't above hanging people for treason even if their treason was simply giving the colonials a place to sleep as they were marching through. Though it was usually only the men they hanged. Officers are supposed to be gentlemen, after all, and attacking women and children was beneath them.

>>4135199
>Now you know how the Boers and Scottish people feel.

>Beors

I weep for them, white South Africans <3


>Scottish

Yeah, because the concept of British is only confined to England, Wales and Northern Ireland and not the equal partner of the Union.

>>4135518
>Just look at what we did to the South when they rebelled.

>implying the slaving bastard traitors didn't deserve it.

>>4135537

Now you know how some british officers who were maniacal butchering bastards felt.

>>4135539
>implying the British were butchering bastards due to the evils of Southern slavery...an institution encouraged by the British government.

>>4135551

Uh no, that's not what i was implying at all.

I'm just pointing out that hatred in war generally leads to atrocities.

>>4135551
>Southern slavery
>encouraged by the British government.

NO NO NO NO
1772
"The state of slavery is of such a nature, that it is incapable of being introduced on any reasons, moral or political; but only positive law, which preserves its force long after the reasons, occasion, and time itself from whence it was created, is erased from memory: it's so odious, that nothing can be suffered to support it, but positive law."

it was banned in the UK then, and they took steps to stop it world wide in 1807 and pressured other countries to do so by taking over the slave ships and freeing all the slaves they could

>>4135554

Ah but see, hatred of the South is natural due to their inhuman, evil natures. Time and time again their monstrous tendencies have had to be put down. Even now, we have to keep them chained and muzzled, like a dangerous and violent animal.

Best countries ever.