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  • File : 1299076775.jpg-(48 KB, 635x364, america_christian_cross.jpg)
    48 KB Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)09:39 No.3157025  
    Are Christian countries automatically more civilized than the countries of other religions?

    What do you think?

    European and both North and South American Christian countries and empires are historically very civilized, but many African Christian countries are too fucked to function.

    How does their faith in Christ affect their civilization level?
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)09:42 No.3157039
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    Christian ruled countries are the only civilised people on Earth. Compare black Christian countries to black muslim countries and you will, again, see the difference. Atheist countries...well...
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)09:43 No.3157045
    >>3157039

    >forgets about Buddhist countries
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)09:46 No.3157054
    >>3157039

    Hitler and Mussolini were both Roman Catholic, although Mussolini initially disliked the church for much of his career.

    While Christian, Hitler had an interest in Paganism and believed in occult folklore so he was definitely not an atheist.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)09:46 No.3157055
    Japan is not christian. Mexico, paraguay and Bolivia are
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)09:47 No.3157062
    >>3157025
    Yes they are.

    African Christian countries are too fucked to function.
    Because of mooselimbs its an endless war over there. Also most "christian" black guys dont follow the teachings of jesus anyway.

    How does their faith in Christ affect their civilization level?
    Well Jesus taught lotsa good stuff like love your neightbor turn the other cheeck etc. and if people follow this they become civilized.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)09:47 No.3157064
    >>3157039
    That graph is a lie, Stalin killed only 1 million, mostly people who collaborated with the Germans.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)09:48 No.3157067
    Europe's success in the millenia prior to the 20th Century has less to do with their faith and more to do with their geographical position and available flora/fauna.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)09:48 No.3157071
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    >>3157054
    Lets end this before it gets out of hand.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)09:52 No.3157081
    >>3157039
    Why does that graph not show other conflicts in history with Christian religious roots - like the Thirty Years War? Also, figures should be relative to the global population at the time, not absolute numbers. Remember that the Roman Empire at its height ruled over a greater proportion of the world's people than the British Empire at its height, despite the latter ruling over more people overall.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)09:53 No.3157085
    >>3157039
    Anti theism leads nowhere. Infact all anti-things lead nowhere. Most anti religious people are fucking social outcasts who just make fun of cultures while they dont even have one. Imagine if the whole world will be like that. there wont be anything to laugh at for them.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)09:58 No.3157108
    >>3157039

    Don't see any taiping rebellion here
    Don't see no protestant catholic conflicts here


    Oh guys, when a guy died under Stalinism it was because he was an atheist. Regardless of what he died from.

    Just thought I'd clarify that this is what makes this bar chart right.
    >> Danger McThunderthighs !Zq4YGFw5tU 03/02/11(Wed)09:59 No.3157111
    I feel like the answer to OP's question is "yes", but remember that Christianity had a head start and spread rather easily to the rest of the world with its messages of peace and brotherhood...

    Messages that would be quickly contorted to match the beliefs of people and give them "reasons" to attack others
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:00 No.3157117
    >>3157108

    So under this charts logic we can place anyone who died under a christian government to this chart.

    It would be off the scale.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:00 No.3157123
    >>3157117

    Exactly my point.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:10 No.3157151
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    >>3157039

    I can make fancy graphs too
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:10 No.3157152
    >>Africa
    >>Civilization

    wat
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:13 No.3157155
    >>3157151
    the difference is yours is obvious bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:15 No.3157165
    >>3157155

    Please do go on to explain why somebody who died of starvation under Mao and stalin died in the name of Atheism.

    Using this logic, which I have applied to MY graph, everyone who died under a Christian regime or fighting for it is added.

    Do you now see why both graphs are bullshit? Perhaps not. Theists tend to ignore facts and reality.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:18 No.3157171
    >>3157151
    that doesnt make your graph representative of anything but prejudice. the fact is, most wars in the past several hundred years are non-religious. on average, 2 million people per year die to war-fare since WWII and almost all of it is ethnic/political, not religious.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:19 No.3157175
    >>3157151
    You are completly ignorant of jesus teachings.
    Killing is strictly forbidden.
    I can claim to be a hindu and go kill a million of people. According to your logic "Hinduism" wouldve killed those people. Pretty stupid eh?
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:20 No.3157176
    >>3157165
    both stalin and moa and all communists engineered famines, a means to control populations.

    also your numbers are made up. your graph is just shit.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:22 No.3157181
    >>3157175

    > But they wernt' REAL Christians!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

    >>3157176
    > both stalin and moa and all communists engineered famines, a means to control populations.

    Wrong.

    > also your numbers are made up. your graph is just shit.

    Same as the other graph. All made up.

    > 2 million people per year die to war-fare since WWII and almost all of it is ethnic/political, not religious.

    Shia sunni? I don't remember the Muslims ramming into the twin towers in the name of rational thought, they did it for religious reasons.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:23 No.3157185
    >>3157176
    >both stalin and moa and all communists engineered famines, a means to control populations.

    You ultimate, ultimate retard. Go read a history book.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:23 No.3157186
    >Are Christian countries automatically more civilized than the countries of other religions?

    >Malawi
    >Zimbabwe
    /thread
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:24 No.3157189
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    >>3157181
    >>3157185
    >communists never engineered famine!!
    oh dear looks like we have some commushits itt!
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:25 No.3157194
    >OP
    no, they certainly are not. wrongful death rates are twice as high in christian nations than any other nations on earth.

    but I think their faith has near nothing to do with it. I think the problem is they are westerners, they can't help themselves -- seriously, its just cultural. eventually everything evens out, just not right now.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:28 No.3157201
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    >>3157189

    > THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIAN THEY ARE COMMUNISTS

    Newshit. Reported. Go back to fox news. Seriously.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:30 No.3157214
    >>3157201
    >Stalin
    >Mao

    >Christian

    Reported for retardation.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:30 No.3157218
    >>3157214

    Reported for being unable to read.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:32 No.3157227
    >>3157218
    Reported for trying to cover up your stupidity
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:32 No.3157229
    >>3157181
    You cant use "No true Scotsman" on religion, because religions have scriptures. Scotish people on the other hand dont have a scripture which explains to everyone what a scotsman has to do to be a true scotsman.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:33 No.3157233
    >>3157229

    > Religion has scripture

    It conflicts and as the parts of the bible Christians don't like are metaphors, we end up this way.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:34 No.3157237
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    What is your opinion about Stalin and Hitler as Atheists?

    I have said in my book that Hitler is not at all atheist, as he was religiously biased against Jewish people. Stalin was following communism dogmatically. I have already said that none of us, in effect derive our morality from religion. Stalin, in fact, used the dogmatic communism as his source of morality - if we call it morality at all. Being atheist does not ask you to become dogmatic or communist, but only ask you not to believe in God. A person working in a Mafia group can also be an atheist although it will be illogical to say that atheism pushed him to the Mafia group. There are other colleagues working with him who are religious

    - Richard Dawkins
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:36 No.3157242
    >>3157237


    But Richard Dawkins is a muslim, as are all atheists, which is simply a branch of Islam.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:36 No.3157244
    Atheists got the smackdown laid upon them ITT.
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:37 No.3157245
    >>3157237
    SLASH MOTHER FUCKING THREAD
    >> Anonymous 03/02/11(Wed)10:37 No.3157247
    >>3157244

    > I also would like to add I did not read this thread



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