practise, hours upon hours of practise

Use Loomis books to get the shapes? Or look at still life (or the not-so-still life) and draw it?

I like to see how the artists before me captured the essence of rock, and when I draw it it's not line, it's value... and value for a beginner = messy :P

yeah the wobbly line thing is something all new guys have, just draw a lot and it should go away.

Practice focusing your entire being into the tip of your pencil as you draw. Stare intently at the tip of the pencil and your line should definitely get less wobbly during slower strokes.

Also paper is cool. Just so you can draw on the fly, whenever.

Thanks Anon, it is reassuring to know that the problems one faces are typical for a beginner (and not a form of Parkinson at the age of 21 ==')

JerkDouglas, thank you too "become one with the pencil" although bit strange... works well ^^

well regarding wobbly lines thats whats great with a tablet, you can draw your line as wobbly as you want, and clean it up with the eraser
also ctrl+z is your best friend
you get pretty used to tablets after a few days.
also, professional beginner? wat?

Generally if I want to draw a long straight line I still look for a ruler.

Although if you want to learn how to make good lines, I personally think its more about confidence and observational skills (?)

I do this in life drawing a lot, mainly just compose of quick gesture drawing of figure using pens, no erasing, no going back. If you made a wrong mark, you just keep going with the "test line" until you gets one right,and just move on. Fill a paper of such gesture, it generally helps people relax a little about what they are drawing.

Proffesional beginner because I want to draw perfectly and I get discouraged by my results... I stop drawing for a while... then I see/draw etc. do something which motivates me. And as long as the flame burns I scribble like mad... but then I see some painting by Craig Mullins and lose some spirit.

It's not a New Year resolution, it just happens that today I've decided to simply ask about the things which bother me.

Magi, after one week-month of practice anyone can learn how to draw a straight line from point a to point b. Really, no need for a ruler :) Same with elipses (don't remember the word... those squished circles).

I will certainly try relaxing with the gestures, that should help :) (my general goal is to reduce the number of test lines ;) )

Generally, thanks to everyone who has decided to help :)

The solution as always gets down to "talk less draw more".

ps. You draw gestures/people from life or using photos/books?

>>3129192) Did anyone have a "wobbly" line? I mean, when I draw a line slowly it isn't perfectly straight. I've trained to draw quickly from point a to point b, without the use of a ruler and the speed eliminates the wobbliness, but sometimes I have a complex line which is hard to draw in one stroke,

Just turn up the resistance in your art package, or turn the loosenes or the line flow setting down, try to do this with your Tablet software also, or 1 or the other. Creates more drag and smoother lines. Relax, pratice. yadda yadda yadda.

I own a wacom tablet, but still draw using the mouse part. Couldn't ever get used to the pen. Course, I draw in Flash, the shittiest possible program to use for drawing anyway.

Well, you could always try ASCII ;)

Mouse feels better than the pen? (for drawing, that is)

>>312936
>>ps. You draw gestures/people from life or using photos/books?
<-- not the cleanest line. >.>

I do both.

Well, I would even say that Rebecca Guay/Arthur Rackham represent a CLEAN line, although Rebecca IMHO has a wobbly line :P
(I love her pictures though)

An example of a clean and unwobbly line ;)