going to art academy. thinking there would be people who might be able to teach me something.

looking up to my art professor - finding out he is an insecure asshole.

getting yelled at because i like the "wrong" artists.

and the worst. i endured this bullshit for over a year thinking i would just have to get through this. wasting money time and mental energy.

drawing animu

>take first real art class in college
>I KNOW ALL THIS ALREADY GOD THIS CLASS IS DUMB MY CLASSMATES ARE AMATEURS I HATE THESE ASSIGNMENTS
>barely pass by the skin of my teeth due to halfassed work and poor attendance
>teacher tells me I should be getting scholarships and going to art school but my attitude is shit
>NO UR DUMB I KNOW WUT I'M DOING
>drop out

I'm so embarrassed of 18 year old me. All those waisted opportunities. I want a re-do

I'd applied for an animation job before I even started to learn proper drawing.

the reviewers probably had a ball from my drawing submission.

as for regret, I started drawing at somewhat late age, wish I started sooner.

>be obsessed with pornography
>draw it when I was still a kid
>a bitch showcased it to the entire school
>got humiliated/punished
>be afraid to draw anything I liked since then

I'm stuck doing studies, shit other people thinks is cool. I am very afraid of drawing what I like. I can't even draw people I care about now even though I can draw strangers just fine. Fucking issues. I want to find that bitch and stab her for being such a goody-two shoes.

I regret allowing myself to succumb to this bullshit fear. I don't even know if there's a name to this "phobia". Fear of drawing something you like because of other's comments on it. The fuck. I'm so messed up and pathetic. At this point I even envy people in DA because at least THEY know what they like and have the capability to let it out, despite being shit.

Fuck.

>>1171311
You better get over it before it gets larger and larger.
Draw the stuff you like even if you feel bad.
I kinda had a similar thing going on.

I wanted to draw Animu. Instead of doing it properly, which would have been getting a solid foundation of anatomy, perspective, and etc, and then learning to stylize it, I got this fucking book. It's not my fault though! I didn't know any better.

>>1171305

Did you study in Western Australia by any chance?

my regret and embarrassment is that i started drawing at 20 and still suck after 5 years of drawing

>studying human form and muscles, proportions and 3d forms
>avoid studying bones because they are too complicated
>still have trouble drawing human body
>"fuck it, back to anatomy basics"
>study bones thoroughly and how muscles lay on them, put eyeballs in sockets, etc
>suddenly everything makes perfect sense

Feels like I have wasted so much time.

>>1171311
Don't worry about it, everyone does this, the reason those guys on DA and furaffinity (orwhat'sitcalled) post shit like that is because it's anonymous.

Who in his right mind would want to show porn that you drew to other people that you know.
Draw what you like just make sure others don't see it.
And don't neglect your studies because of it.

In school people would always compliment my drawings, which were basically just glorified stick figures, so I never bothered to try and get any better. I never went full "ITS MY STYLE" but I still wasted ~10 years of my childhood on that crap.

>>1171311
I like to draw cartoons inching toward porn. I have a similar regret: I'm too fearful to upload the result anywhere, though I still draw them without inhibition... Every passing month I'm not openly DA or FA feels like procrastinating the inevitable. I'm only comfortable sharing life drawings and studies, probably because people don't count on seeing more of the same.

>>1171358
This is basically what I do in practice, except I don't think of my porn as some peripheral thing to get out of my system while developing my "real art". The porn is OVER half of my real art. I just don't want everything I make to be like that, and I study accordingly.

tl;dr: I regret not uploading my weirder stuff, unless doing that would somehow mean losing all discretion for quality by habitually publishing for a weird audience, which is debatable.

>>1171311

>I am very afraid of drawing what I like.

I love drawing pornography too, but I'm also afraid to draw what I like. Well, showing it to others, anyway. Mostly because some of the stuff I like would be severely taboo.

I'll sit in /vg/ and look in art request threads, usually hunting for lesbian porn requests since I love lesbians. Now and then though, I'll see something like "May having lesbian monster sex with her Blaziken." and I'll want to fucking draw it bad. Problem is, people will trace the style back to me. Being anonymous won't help.

Drawing porn is already questionable enough, but I don't want to get tagged with "furry" or "pedo" as an additional derogatory on top of it. Once you draw something, you can't take it back.

Pic related.
Pretentious and unskilled, the final result could only be shit like this.

I spent 2 years in pre-degree college before I realised nobody was actually teaching me anything. I still went for another year because I didn't have the qualifications to get into a 'real' art school, but all the fundamentals I know, I taught myself with videos and books, alongside evening life drawing sessions with a bunch of 50+ divorcees

>>1171364
eh
just improve
no one will look twice (trollface.jpg)
http://omen2501.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=96#/d6v7fr
http://omen2501.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=0#/d2kyrdf

>>1171364
>People will recognize the style
Yeah I was afraid of that as well. The bigger part of the problem is that it's not just porn alone. I terribly want to draw some delicious lesbians and designs but I have these terrible feels. Like if I draw these, I'll become like those generic people or that I am not that good enough yet to do it in that manner. I like seeing good anime arts but I can't even have the courage to do a chibi because I could hear the d/ic/k inside me screaming "STUDIES! LOOMISSSS!!!!". So I withdraw. Don't get me wrong. I LOVE doing studies. But sometimes I like setting myself loose and relax a bit and this stupid... "phobia" is holding me back.

I always get stuck not finishing anything, even if I manage to get a good enough rough draft going on.

I'm seriously considering teraphy or going to a shrink. I'm still continuing my studies though. But that's all I can churn out right now, really. It is very easy for me to become inspired but it's hard to make myself draw something I like....

I should start drawing those lesbians... I'll convince myself that they're "STUDIES" yeah... brainwashing myself might work.


>>1171358
>not show anyone
I should've thought of that when I was 9. I was extremely bored then and I just drew a disfigured hooker doing a strip dance. I even hid it in the darkest corner of my bag. But no, bitch had to be a bitch and rat out on me. Fucking moralfag kid.


>>1171338
I hope we both get over this. It really suck. Art block is better than this.

>>1171305
>>1171305
>>1171305

I'm so glad I learned this lesson back in my highschool. Was amazing at web design and shat. Didn't really care about the class because i knew how good i was even compared to the teacher. Ended up getting like a C, completely blew my mind when I found out. Realized that being good isn't a qualification to skip out on work and from this day. I can tell which kids haven't realized this as they skip out on assignments, thinking the teacher will recognize them as a good artist. Lesson: Don't feel so self entitled because you're the best in the room.

>>1171355
That's actually an effing motivation story.

Regret:
1. Listening to everyone telling me to not do artsy stuff for over two decades.
2. Not discovering the online art community. The only art you find in my country is by gouvernmental nepotism subsided trash. Almost everyone depises it and looks down upon "artists"... The stuff I found online just blew me away, I was taught at school that realism and stuff didn't exist anymore.

Embarassment:
There was this guy who went to art school and such, whom I really admired. Everyone gave him tons of compliments, including me.
But when I started drawing myself, I surpassed him in a week.
Like, hell, I finally realized how bad he actually is. And he is afraid of learning too (maybe due to all the compliments). Also, he gets paid for his work, since this country loves bad art. Picture is something recent from him.
I wish I could take back everything I ever said about his "art"...

>>1171364
I (kind of) feel ya. I love to draw porn, too. Mostly of the gay male variety. But it's not really as taboo, I guess. So I can relate only so far. Quite a few of my friends know that I draw what I draw, and it's not a big deal.
The thing is, I am poor as fuck. And I feel very inclined to selling out on FA or HF, drawing whatever the hell anyone wants me to draw (with a few exceptions), regardless of how I feel about it, because I'm in a desperate need for money. But yes, my style is pretty recognizable, too. So, yeah. That's an issue for me, too.

>>1171376

More artists aspiring to draw good lesbian art is always something nice to see. That's one reason I do it because I don't see much. You'd think lots would be out there, but no, not really.

>I'll become like those generic people or that I am not that good enough yet to do it in that manner.

Like as in, generic Pixiv porn artist? I don't think it's fair to lump yourself in as generic strictly for drawing a certain subject. People can make fun of you for trying too hard to be unique too, so you can't really win in either case. No use in worrying about that.

Also, looking at your own stuff and thinking "Needs more Loomis" and etc is fine, and you should, if you need it. Don't let that discourage you from actually drawing the picture though, otherwise you'll never get anything on the paper.

As for studies with lesbian themes, go for it. Anatomy is anatomy, so you might as well look at something you enjoy. Some of the more complex poses are found in erotic photos so it's good for practice.

-Too much time think about drawing instead of drawing

-Too many studies

-Not enough studies

-Not having fun becase I would feel less dedicated

-Not working hard enough

>>1171384

>Too much time think about drawing instead of drawing

I'm guilty of this right now.

most embarrassing moments

>mother found my stash of futa rape inpregnation drawings

>drawing guro in public
>girls comes up to me
>watcha drawing?
>she looks before I could react
>hfw
>she runs away

>presentation in class
>accidentaly flash my toddlercon drawings while opening the presentation
dropped out of college because of that one


>digital drawing for like 6 hours
>light goes off
>didn't saved
>raged so hard that broke my keyboard and didn't draw for a month

>>1171381

I don't really see a need to sell out to make your dough, if you want to go to HF. Just put a hard cap on what you are willing to draw. I'm only really willing to draw pin-ups, or lesbians. Anything else generally does not interest me at all so I won't bother.

If your desperation leads you past HF and into FA, you'll have no choice but to put a hard cap on. That is unless you don't mind drawing diaper fur art, which will punch holes though your soul like swiss cheese.

Oddly enough, neither of those places are good for advertising yourself. You are better off on deviantArt. More people go there, and it isn't as restrictive as HF and not as disgusting as FA.

>>1171388
>that feel when no money
>that feel I have to draw fathor-son incest to survive

>that feel when I start to like it...

>>1171391

Are you chained in somebody's basement with a tablet, forced to draw that subject? Or is somebody with a large bag of money constantly commissioning you for it and you're just living off of that person?

>that feel when I start to like it...

If that wasn't your thing before, abort before you're conditioned to it.

>still don't draw in public
>afraid people will think it's good

>be in highschool
>fat girl says to draw her
>everyone in class gathers around to see what I do
>cave under pressure, make her skinny AND default animu style

haven't drawn someone I know since that day.

>>1171393
The issue is that I can't find any job to pay my rent and I'm not skilled enough to do professional comissions.

The onyl way I can compete is by drawing what no one else wants to draw.

>abort before you're conditioned to it.
I wish I could, I wish...

>>1171388
>If your desperation leads you past HF and into FA, you'll have no choice but to put a hard cap on.
I would have done that anyway.

>That is unless you don't mind drawing diaper fur art, which will punch holes though your soul like swiss cheese.
If it's an adult antromorph character and I don't have to draw poo, then maybe. But my soul definitely won't be left unharmed.

>Oddly enough, neither of those places are good for advertising yourself. You are better off on deviantArt.
Really? I thought it was the other way around. I don't have a dA account, and I would have only made one for my more "serious" art. Hmm.
>More people go there, and it isn't as restrictive as HF and not as disgusting as FA.
HF is restrictive?

On, and to stay on topic at least somewhat...

>wasting time not studying hard enough (nowadays)
>self-flaggelation over plateauing too soon
>tracing and uploading that shit (age 16)
>drawing porn of myself and Zorro from One Piece, Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z (age 14)
I actually did draw that while I was at a friend's place, and she watched me. What the hell?

>>1171398
so many typos
damn

>>1171400

Lots of adult content is on deviantArt, yeah. You can get away with quite a bit there. Much more exposure as well. HF is sort of niche.

You can't upload hardcore porn to deviantArt though, but you can always just crop it, then link to the uncensored you have somewhere else.

HF is restrictive in the sense that you can't just upload anything immediately. Somebody has to approve it, and it takes awhile. It's slow and cumbersome.

>Not drawing animu.

I regret it. Because I am now unable to churn out lolrandum designs that look fun. Studies took the fun out of me. What do?

>>1171400
>HF is restrictive?
You can't upload anything unless the mods approve.

They rejected 12 of my drawings.

At some point I traced porn and they rejected it for shitty anatomy.

>>1171403

Here's what I did when I wanted to study drawing people just to pump out tons of lesbo Animu art with huge tits.

1. Study the shit out of Loomis & Vilppu so my grasp of anatomy and perspective is sharp.

2. Apply it when I convert the human form into stylized Animu form.

3. Enjoy.

If your studies are getting stale, just draw some goofy cartoons for awhile. You'll probably have more fun doing it now than you would have before.

> stop drawing 2008 ~ 2010
> seldom even draw anymore
> trying to draw again since 2011
> art has since retrograded

It's sure disconcerting trying to draw again and feeling insecure as fuck about my art because I can't draw decent stuff anymore, just doodles.

After that whole "break" or whatever it was, I've lost the passion for the drawing part of the process and losing my patience if I can't get to the "completed" part sooner. It makes me envy those younger animu artists who draw for the love of drawing, regardless of the art style they're using. I want that passion again.

feelsbadman

>>1171407
I probably rejected that

you guys get so butthurt when rejected for the wrong reason, when the fact was the piece sucked.

>>1171386

>Shitty Photoshop of school mascot
>That feel when you feel like you're embarrasing the school in public
>Thinks vectors make tracing A-OK

>>1171340
Look on the bright side. It's not the worst book you could have read. There are some useful bits here and there. Now, if you bought a Christopher Hart, I'd be making fun of you.

>>1171311
>>1171363
>>1171364
>>1171376
>>1171381
Another pornographer here. I lean more on towards bondage. Nothing too hardcore, just something you might see in comic book covers (with more nudity). My embarrassing moment was due to either lack of social filter, laziness or both since I didn't bother separating my art. Friends of mine seen it and now I'm the butt of the jokes because of it. Compared to you guys though, I got off easy.

I don't think I've had an embarrassing moment but as an artist I felt like shit over this. After a a huge finished piece, I wouldn't draw for like a week and in the worst case, a month. Like I lost my drive afte that one piece. Horribe feeling. Doesn't happen anymore.

>>1171417
Oh yes, I learned from this little book and drew from it religiously... it took me a solid 4 years to work this shit out of my system.

>>1171421
if it means anything, i really do hope you make it through

>>1171426
I appreciate that.

at first I was alarmed at how many of you draw porn/anime
but then I remembered I'm on 4chan.
I wonder if any of my irl peers secretly draw porn

>>1171437
>alarmed
sex scares you?

None.

I'm always right

>>1171437
>at first I was alarmed at how many of you draw porn/anime
>porn/anime
What

I started drawing.

I've only just started appreciating art and as a result, I suck balls. But in my defence, the art department at my school killed all interest I had in art at the time.

>Can you teach me how to draw anatomy?
>NO DRAW THIS JUG

>>1171441
yeah man it's super gross

1. I regret taking a bunch of years off from seriously pursuing art.
2. I regret not having done more study of the *business* side of art.

I could be so much further along now. I could have accomplished so much more.

>>1171441
reminds me that... what was probably embarrassing for me was that I thought ... my parents would find my drawing sex as embarrassing. So I wasted time and energy hiding that.

Since there are so many porn artists here, let me ask a quick qeustion.
Is there any good book focussing specifically on how to draw sex/porn? Not just naked figures, I'm talking porn here: very erotic, lusty, seedy type of shit.

Fuck, just re-read the OP post and realized it doesn't ask for most regrettable /ic moment. Oh well; fuck it.

Without a doubt my most regrettable /ic moments was my involvement in the russian art thief thread, not because I was wrong but how I went about it, got so emotionally invested, acted like a douche, kept a shitstorm alive for so long, and blocked a potential commission.

For those who missed it, I wouldn't let it go when this guy posted lots of pictures like this. He insisted that he drew these completely from imagination in response to a commision request.. To my eyes it's obvious he copied/traced the bodies from a comic and drew the faces/high heel/background/aspects of the costumes himself. Aw fuck I'm starting up again. Someone slap me!

>>1171477

Not really. Just draw it from life.

If I want to draw a sex pose, like say, two girls 69ing each other, I'll either Google a picture similar to what I'm thinking of, or find a video of it and snap a screenshot. Then, I just draw that.

Eventually you'll get an idea of what facial expression works for whatever pose or situation you are trying to convey. Same thing goes for how the body ought to bend and etc. Then you can build your own sex scenes without a reference at all.

>>1171494

>Boring /ic/ tripfag drama

Just leave.

>>1171346
Nope

One of my regrets was dropping out of school and early after switching to graphic design. Even though design does lead to money, I have realized that I prefer actual drawing/painting way more even if I do kinda enjoy web and print design somewhat. Last year I was,finally, able to take art classes at an atelier school and I prefer it way more and I feel like I'm actually learning something. All of my instructors there have been a huge help to me and I'm trying to learn as much as possible by asking questions and talking to them, something I was way too shy to do when I was younger.

>>1171477
You have to just do your homework and search. Search out not only pics of real people, (or get real people if you can), but find art that you like from other artists.

I, too, love drawing porn/erotica and never felt that I was wrong for doing so, ever.

well this happened in my art class.
students had to take turns modeling for class.
get to my turn. 20min sessions for each model, halfway through my model session i realized my pants had sagged enough to expose the missing botton to my boxers. my wiener hanging out for everyone to see....

Fuck what everyone thinks about your art. Draw the most horrible, illegal in some countries, raunchy pornography you want. It's just for fun and artists know they draw things for fun.

>>1171687
what kind of shit boxers have buttons on them? that would be so uncomfortable

>>1171386
>mother found my stash of futa rape inpregnation drawings
>she runs away
>accidentaly flash my toddlercon drawings while opening the presentation
Holy fucking shit, man.

Is it a regret if I've lost my passion and motivation for drawing?

It's one that pains me every day. But I can't get myself to fix it.

>>1171421
Is it just me? Am I the only one who has thought things like this look horrible all my life?

>>1171712
A lot do.

Were you not looking at people's faces? Were they not gasping or giggling or wincing? Your dick must have been pretty impressive for them just to pass it off. Or entirely unimpressive to not be worthy of any response.

>>1171731
>2012
still wearing underwear (apologies if your a mormon)

>>1171735
Sorry I don't want my groin skin turning to a callus.

>>1171738
but then how are women s'pose to notice your dick?

>>1171741
Well first I begin with talking to them, then once we've grown a good relationship I can take off my pants and show her.

>>1171747
that's the suckers way, i bet you try to learn by drawing animu too.

>>1171761
Well you may be the "run up and slap her with your dick" type but not me.
And no I do not.

>>1171616

i hear you. I'm so sick of staring at a monitor I'm slowly getting back into painting after 15 years.

I want to enjoy the process of making art again rather than just doing it to for the end re$ult.

>>1171764
it's not about slapping people with dicks. It's just while your dancing or talking she can look down and see your clearly erect member, it's a subtle way of letting her know you would like to bone her which she can chose to ignore if she likes, in fact it gives her a whole range of options she can ignore it, pretend to ignore it and take the ego boost, "accidentally" brush past it or touch it, make a witty comment about it, make a sexy comment about it, obtusely rub or grasp it through the trousers, or go for the zipper.

it puts the power in her hands, literally.

started out drawing mecha and weapon designs
one day, someone got a hold of my sketchbook in junior high and showed it to everyone. People thought I was some war or weapon-obsessed dude. They were probably right, but it was still embarassing.

Nowadays I just stick to drawing peoples and mechanical design. But at least I didn't start out drawing animu

The fact that after so many years of not picking up a pencil my 10 year old self would absolutely destroy me in a sketch-off.

>>1171806
I don't think you actually do this. Or you would know how uncomfortable and terrible it would be to get an erection wearing pants without underwear.

>>1171813
clearly we wear different kinds of pants

>>1171808
I actually started out drawing plain western cartoons first. There weren't really that many anime outside of DBZ(and I was never really into that) that caught my interest or that I watched enough of. I drew a lot of cartoons. I had a little anime faze but I don't think it was on the level of the generic garbage you see kids drawing.

>>1171819
*phase*

>>1171813
>2012
>being circumcised

Well this story is kind of not what people would expect... Im in High School but at a school for delenquents, suprisingly a lot of good artist there "compared to art school students" teacher says stick around after school a guest speaker from sony was going to be there. so i did and he showed us all this gay animu shit and my teacher told me that she had spoken to him about a internship he comes to talk to me about it and i basicly say animu is fucking retarted and walk away.

Now realise that would have been a great way to get my foot in the door.

Embarrassing? I guess doodling DBZ type things in 7th grade and showing them off to other people who did the same thing.

Regrets? Not practicing consistently. Hell, last time I practiced I only got have way through pixelovely's 1 hour class before caving in and playing more vidya.

I have a problem and I need help /ic/ ;~;

>>1171950

>Im in High School but at a school for delenquents

guess i don't have any significant ones.

wish i hadn't dropped out of highschool, i'm in CC now, but i'd be well into a state school by now had i not dropped out.

If i had more ambition i'd be well onto my life goal instead of working at walmart and attending school part time.

Even though my art teachers are fucking retards in high school I could have not been such a lazy fuckwad. I could have done then what I'm doing now. I guess it took 5 years to realize that.

Sort of a regret, I wouldn't have wanted to take AP portfolio and do the whole dog and pony show to get into an art school, that's for sure.

I'm sort of sorry that I'm just now getting my /ic/ ass beating. This shit would have helped 5 years ago when I still had all the potential that I wasted.

>that feel when you squandered your chance to make something of your shitty life right after high school

biggest regret? not practicing at all for a year when I was 15

i want to go back and time and kick myself in the dick every time I think about it. I could have been so far ahead of where I am right now. man what a waste of time. dayum shame.

oh well though.

My only regret is that I never took art really seriously and got too lazy and now I'm 21 and I can't draw at all (I'm serious about this) and I don't know what to do with my life.

Also to all the kids scared of FA you can use the kooky shitfuck fetish stuff for comedic "get a load of this guy cam" moments.

Site gets a whole lot more fun that way. Hell, me and my friend just sit for hours and link each other submissions to laugh at.

My biggest regret is not drawing enough.

I'm 20 now been drawing since I was ~14, I'm sure I've only completed around 35-45 serious pieces, and definetly under150 sketches.

Had a gap there where I didn't draw for 2 and a half years, but constantly thought about drawing and trying to understand some aspects such as forms and tones, to my surprise I improved quite a lot by not drawing anything.

24yrsold

I took one year pause of eveyrthing to draw, learn techniques and i barely drawed 2-3 months max.. so fucking lame..

I could have done these months in 1 intensive month.

lostmoney, proud, confidence and wife

what are those sites you are refering to as HF and FA?

>>1171991
Stop being me, stop it right now.

>>1171996
Why would you get married, idiot...

>>1171991
>Not draw much
>Just read tutorials/books
>Improve still.
Same here. Weird. I still prefer extensive studies though. Btw do you have any sample of your improvements?

>>1172000
Don't have any of my older stuff saved, but there's a clear improvement even though I've only done 3-5 drawings since then.

>>1172003
You're killing me with the similarities here, man.
Making me realize I need to get more artistically active and pump some studies and pieces out, I'm getting too complacent and out of it.

>>1172008
>>1172000
>>1171991
Also suffering from artist's block. I wanted to do "sketch-a-day" exercises, but I forgot to do them for an entire month.

>>1172008
Tell me about it, man.

Will force myself to do one anatomy study, one watercolour and a few gestures today.

I could be earning money trough my art right now, but am so fucking lazy.

>>1171999
Sometimes, one's spouse is a great support ?

Not in my case.
1.
>spouse went to art school
>quit because they had to make assigments
>"too much work"
>wth... what did you expect ?

2.
>spouse invites friend over
>I retreat to my study room to draw
>afternoon, curious friend wants to see what I've been doing
>"Hey, you made a mistake here and there"
>Spouse: "Shut up, you should try this!!!"
>wtf, he was helping me. :(

>>1172012
>quit because they had to make assigments

What.
That's the exact reason I WANT to go to an art school.

>>1172009
Here's my sketchbook dates (dd/mm/yy):
- 20/10/11
- 08/02/12
- 05/03/12
- 23/03/12

And I'm not even a horrible artist.. I love it when I draw, nothing beats the feeling when I finish something, but I just cannot bring myself to draw for some reason.

>>1172015
basically my problem.
I LOVE drawing. It's one of the greatest things when I'm doing it but I can't just bring myself to do it for long ammounts of time.

>>1172016
It's a strange thing, man.

>Showing off shitty animu drawings to friends in high school
>So ashamed that I don't mention that I draw to anyone now

>Liked graphic novels
>Wrote and drew ~100 pages for one
>Halfway through
>Depression and wrote into a corner, ragequit
>It's been ~4 months, and now my ink skills have degraded
>What readers I have must be disappointed
>Wish I gave my characters an ending

>Not enough gesture work and loose sketching when I was younger
>Everything looks stiff
>Still scared to draw anything other than a study
>Even though I know that once I start a fun work, I have a blast

>Scared of "wasting" materials--don't use my wc paints.

>Too scared of messing up
>Leave shit half-finished so I don't "ruin it".

>So many half-finished ragequit drawings that weren't all that bad (at the time).
>Very little experience with final polish now
>Still trouble finishing anything.

Fff. Okay, now I'll get back to drawing. Fuck it, I'm doing gestures then inking a sketch from the other day.

>>1172034
lets see your comic mangaka-sama-kun ^_^

>>1172073

Ah, fuck you, man, lol!

>>1171731
I don't believe it. If my boxers had a button on them and i crossed my legs, that button would poke me in the dick and leave a mark.

Stop making up shit. It was cool back in elementary school when everyone believed you, but how old are you now?

Letting some bitter old codger at my undergrad bully me into not doing the art I wanted. Crazy Russian fucker thought anything that came out of Asia (ANY part of Asia) was automatically shit and anyone who liked it at all was retarded. I didn't want to be a mangaka or any shit like that, but I liked cartooning and animation, and they were the same thing to him. I spent four years thinking I was just too stupid to understand "real" art - and "real" art in this guy's eyes was hoity-toity avant-garde graphic design out of Europe. And only Europe, because according to this guy Americans are stupid, Asians are retards and everyone else isn't worth mentioning.

Finally left that shit behind and became a cartoonist. Fuck that asshole, I've never been happier with my life.

>>1172136
Tom Preston?

>>1172124
The fuck are you talking about? I'm going to assume you have your mother buy your underwear for you and not that you're retarded.

>Don't draw for five months
>Complete shit at drawing now
I have never had this problem.

>Started drawing in late grade school
>progression rate like a snail
>wanted to draw to impress others more than myself
> Began tracing Dragon Ball z all the time
>fed of the attention like some whore
>Traced until early highschool
>Relised I was a faggot for tracing
>Began to work on only legit oringinal art
>relize I had learned nothing from tracing and severly fucked myself out of any artistic growth all that time.

Havent traced in years, but im still dealing with the damage of not having any foundation. I've grown alot, but I know I could of been much better by now.

A lot of people here seem to have started when they were in grade school or even high school. This is strange to me.

>>1172562
It's odd to me as well, since I literally cannot remember not drawing. It may be one of the factors that causes my interests to diverge so wildly from the interests of the bulk of /ic/. Many or most of the attitudes about art that are expressed here seem very foreign and cloistered to me.

>>1172562

Well when you're a very little kid you just draw to have fun so I guess at that point everyone is in the same boat.

I regret not having any formal art experience, only because I took an interest in art a couple of months ago and it's too late to apply for such courses at my school.

I also regret not having enough dynamic gestures in my drawings, but I guess that will develop within time.

>>1172580
Different guy. I don't know if that's entirely true, because some will draw far more than others in childhood, and some will exhibit a natural talent very early. Science suggest that this sort of talent, aside from any manual control involved, is based in the ability of some to perceive distance, color/value, and relative scale more easily than others.

testing

>>1172519
no, i buy all my clothes. those boxers look a few centuries old. do you live in Scotland?

>>1172598 Science suggest that this sort of talent, aside from any manual control involved, is based in the ability of some to perceive distance, color/value, and relative scale more easily than others.
Interesting, where did you learn that? Mind sharing the source? I haven't come across any studies relating to "talent" and I'd like to learn more about it. What I do vaguely remember the last read about talent stated that the differences in skill you see in children are more due to intelligence and experience. The innate skills stuff is what I used to think a long time ago, but I never came across any solid studies or the like. I'd appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction.

>>1172776
or rather, does your underwear get passed on by generation? oh god, just the thought...

>>1172779
it gives you a head-start, but the artistic ability evens out later on in life, with those who work hard for it.

if you are going to talk about talent, make another thread. it's a sensitive topic that invites troubled people to start arguments.

Sometimes I feel like drawing porn (nothing too hardcore or extreme) but if I show that to anyone online people would recognize my artwork. Even with different stylization.

>>1172782
Good idea, the last thing I want to do is derail another thread. It would still be awesome if that guy could just post a quick link or cite a source to the scientific study got that interesting info from. I don't want create a shitstorm thread just for a single url.

>>1172786
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2134898/Mystery-people-good-drawing-arent-revealed.ht
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>>1172785
there is no such thing as bad publicity

>>1172795
Thanks. Here's the article on the same subject that we were discussing here a few days back. It's a bit more detailed:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/drawing-ability-psychology_n_1451748.html

going on a live tv show to draw and being so nervous I mess up my idea ( but it was still presentable, although not nearly good) and the host didnt even get the drawing and asked me to explain it.

>>1172850
That's embarrassing alright. I trust it was some community access thing and not David Letterman.

>>1172852

Yeah, I was in high school, 12th grade, and we were representing our school. It was supposed to be me and my buddy, one guy from 11th grade and a girl from 9th.
>Buddy stood me up, and I was blamed, then they made search for the girl, stressfull as fuck
>calling numbers as a mad man
>ends up the girl was with us the whole time. >start yelling at her like a lunatic
> she just gapes at me
>turns out she was in the bathroom trying to calm down, because of asthma she was going to faint
>feel like the biggest douche ever
>apologize, tell her I was just freaked out, start telling jokes, get her by my side
>she relaxes and tells me she's scared and what not
>I'm good in situations like this, having to be calm for someone else makes me calm instantly (dont know if it makes sense)
>get into the studio, they just put the three of us behind the hosts to draw on boards with nails sticking out of them
> no way in fuck you are putting your paper to draw on there
> get settled on laps, chatting and trying to ease up
>we agree that I'm the one that's gonna do the talking
>noproblem.jpg
>show starts, we think it's rehearsal, camera's got us laughing and acting like jackasses
>get serious as the host starts speaking
>draw on my lap and it ends up as shit, screwy faces, eyes wonky
>fuckit.jpg
>end of show comes
>host puts the microphone in my face
>grab it
>she wont let it go
>leave it and chuckle awkwardly
>say my name, even though I wasn't asked
>did it on purpose, I was angry at the way nobody at the studio seemed to care about the kids

Continuing because of long post

>she raises my drawing, looks at it silently and asks me to explain it
>picture is three kids running after cartoonish character ( childish and sweet, art teacher wanted it that way)
>nothingtoexplain.exe
>just say what's on it
>she goes over to the other two

>notaccrodingtoplan.jpg
>asthma girl starts mumbling and keeps shrinking into her seat
>her drawing was actually good, and I really liked,
>host just gives it back, no comment
>rage a little
>other guy is cool, but he felt too anxious about this
>he mumbles and his face splits in an awkward smile
> she says that the studio will be keeping the pictures and hang them on the walls
>show ends
>lights out
>everybody leaves in seconds time
>we are left in the darkness, alone, with all our painting shit sprawled on the floor
>didnt even ask for drawings
>feelsfuckingbadman.jpg
>tell the other two to leave the drawings on purpose
>leave studio
>remember the host asked me for a pencil
>she didnt give it back
>RAGE

end of failstory.exe

>>1172947

Sounds like some stupid cunt used you three for time filler on their shitty show.

>>1172776
They're regular fucking boxers. Google boxers with buttons.

Taking my first nude art class. I was nervous and only 15. I was drawing a male, early 20's. Every time I would be looking up for reference, this guy would be staring and smile at me. He was so attractive and I panicked and tired to not look up as much as I could. It turned out horrible.

>>1172958
Are you a woman? If he kept looking at you he may have been interested or that was just the direction he was looking for the pose.

>>1172959
Yes, it wasn't the pose, it couldn't have been, he'd turn a good 15 degrees and fuck everything up for the others in class and look and smile.

>>1172962
Then he's obviously interested. Some guys just take off all their clothes to show the girl they're interested in them.

>>1172955

4 stupid cunts and 2 pedophiles.

>>1172964
>I have a high IQ
>I can do anything someone tells me to do perfectly on the first try

post your work and your age. I'm curious to see what a person like this work looks like, not because I don't believe you.

I suppose I should regret starting out with anime to build up anatomy and face drawing. But I'm past that now, with some influences still in my work.

What I regret and hate most is my inability to finish anything. I just love sketches and studies so much that I'll do a thousand drawings of bits and pieces of things without having any finely worked out result. My room is filled with pages upon pages of doodles and drawings of dozens of different things.

>>1172985

Please, do not ever brag about your accomplishments in technique followed by that "study" as an example. It's embarrassing to those of us who actually have high IQ's and are quick learners and have developed senses for visual technique. You're giving us a bad name.

>>1172991
>>1172986
>>1172988
>guys look how skillful I am
>my IQ is really high
>I drew these when I was 27
>27
>actually has the audacity to claim that they're master copies, as if there was any resemblance to an understanding of the technique used by the masters to create their works of art

leave.

>>1172995
>>1172994

Also, I'm curious to see a page or two from both of your sketchbooks.

>>1172989 I suppose I should regret starting out with anime to build up anatomy and face drawing.
>starting out with anime to build up anatomy
>anime to build up anatomy

>>1172999

exactly.

>>1172996
>Although Professor Hawking discounts the value of numerical IQ's, he admitted that his own is likely very high (it has been suggested as 160 or more). He also said that "People who boast about their IQ's are losers". (see link to 2004 interview)

Protip. Real geniuses or intelligent folks rarely brag about their IQ. They actually don't care much about it. It's not about how high your IQ is, it's about how you use it.

You on the other hand are a gigantic tool who thinks that his IQ is everything. If you are what you say you are then you're rather pathetic. Photogenic memory + high IQ + 27 years old and all you could produce are these poor copies? Bitch please. Seriously?

>>1173001
>It's not about how high your IQ is, it's about how you use it.
This.
Different poster here. Supposedly, I am quite smart, but I can't take an IQ test, because I have ADD. I just can't focus. That's also why I have to work extremely hard on bettering my drawing skills. Feels bad, man.

Also,
>>1172964
>I probably have more natural talent than most people I'd meet in my life
>I'm fucking lazy
I can't stand people like you.

>>1172964
>I.Q.
If that has anything to do with drawing skill then I should have never picked up a pencil.

>>1172996
>what would be a developed sense of visual technique to you

someone who understands reality and is able to reference and manipulate it while still maintaining "realism" and cohesion in their technique.

basically contemporary illustrators like jean and hundley. their technique is not only well executed, but it's clever, like a good comedian.

you're not even at a point where you can develop yourself to that status though, I hope you realize.

you still have an exceedingly primitive approach to observational drawing. it's like you can only see what's in front of you. it's superficial. that's why I doubted that your IQ was so high, since your work showed absolutely no indication of cleverness of sensitivity to reality. It's as if you don't really have a grasp of your surrounding past, like I said before, what you see.

>175 IQ

sigh. and to think I was actually responding to your seriously.

>>1173006
Oh golly. I don't know man. You seem intelligent enough to improve on your own. With all your natural genius and all. I doubt we plebs could possibly help someone as intellectual like you.

Worse, I drew Sonic fancharacters as well as animu.


Forgive me /ic/ for I have sinned.

>>1173014

Look, I'm sorry to all of you who I pissed off. I didn't mean to come off that way. I know it's no excuse, but I don't think highly of myself, I shouldn't have said any of that. It's just easy to do online. I really do apologize for coming off like a holier than thou asshole. I'm seriously asking: What can I do to improve?

I actually am serious with what I said. If you have any sort of intelligence you would get the idea of looking it up the net. browsing enough till you find a good website with resources and guides on how to improve. Which gives me another reason, not to believe that you are "legit". I don't spoonfeed idiots.

>>1173018

I see your point. I wasn't lying about it. Inflated ego, yes I do. Mask my depression, yes it does. Thanks for the advice. I truly am sorry that I pissed you guys off. Seems I won't post anything until I've fully tried. Thanks again. Good ol' delete button, how I've missed you...

>>1173017

no, he's right- that's the thing. you can't claim to be OBSCENELY (yes, 175 is obscene) intelligent then come to us for help on baby-steps improvement. sorry man, totally unfair to us.

But even with that aside, I'll give you a hint. If you can find out more about yourself- and understand who you are, you'll improve much faster than anyone blindly following some arbitrary formula like a drone.

man is the marble and the sculptor etc etc so find out what tools work best with your type of stone. capiche?

>>1173021

Much appreciated. Those people do exist though. I mean it, I'm sorry. I stopped saying that shit when I was younger and I only did because I've had a pretty shitty life. I was tested all throughout my life and that was the only thing I could hold onto. I know I have an understanding of what to do. The hard part is finding my own style and even furthering my understanding of art. I am sorry.

Thank you for the ego check.

I think the problem is too is that my g/f is pushing for me to make this work when I know I'm still pretty far off from where I need to be. I keep telling her this (she went to art school too), but I know I'm not ready. It's why I came here.

I know I sounded like a complete ass, but I think I did what I did intentionally to check myself. /ic, good luck to you guys too. I'll come back when I have something substantial to show for it.

>>1172827
>>1172795
Thank you so much, both of you. Articles like that are like crack to me. I really appreciate it!

>>1173010
I have ADD too, but I now take Adderall, which improved my quality of life dramatically. Before I couldn't focus on anything I didn't find exciting without losing interest, but now I can focus with ease on even the most boring shit. I took an IQ test before I knew I had ADD and another after I was controlling the ADD with medication and there was a 10 point increase, so if you haven't experimented with options regarding treatment I suggest you do so. There has been a couple downsides to Adderall I should mention (these side effects might not effect you or you may get other ones). The first is when I first was getting used to the drug I was snappy with friends and family, but I learned to control it shortly after realizing how I was acting. I also now enjoy food less but I've never really been someone who enjoys eating anyways so that's not a big deal for me, might be for you. I suppose it really depends on what's most important to you in life.

My personality type on the Meyers-Briggs test is "The Thinker" (INTP) (http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP.html). "Thinkers" value intellect above all else and are EXTREMELY analytical and love theorizing (which is one of the reasons I love posting here). so for me it's a no brainer. If you're a food connoisseur who doesn't like to think too hard, it's probably not the best choice for you.

One of the types is called "The Artist" (ISFP) which probably describes a lot of you guys.
http://www.personalitypage.com/html/ISFP.html

>>1173037
I can concentrate, but unless I don't get hyperfocused, I will lose interest and just move on to something different. I can't draw without listening to music or watching a movie/series at the same time.

Awwww, man. This is neither my hugbox, nor the place to whine about shit like this, so -- who gives a damn. I hate medication, and I'm on the pill already, so I won't fuck with my body any further. I'm also kind of crippled due to severe depression and anxiety issues. I won't ever give up, though. I will somehow excel at this drawing thing and make money off it someday.

But thank you for sharing your story, man. I appreciate it a lot. Have an example of my "work".

Sage for off-topic.

>>1171386
>>1171386
Y'all niggas ain't got shit on this guy right here.

Seriously, man. That's terrible. I want to hug you but I feel like you'll draw porn of it later.

>>1173056
you add people make me think i have it too, im exactly like you guys, only i don't think i have it maybe it's all the coffex or something

>>1173037
DAT LINK... It's describes me so perfectly... The artist one I mean, my mind=blown.

You don't have to answer this if you don't want to but I am curious as to what your I.Q. tested at. I got tested once at 110 when I was in highschool (:

>>1173111
oh god i took some online add tests and they all say it's pretty damn likely that i have it , nooo.