been working on this for a while

critiques? about 1,30 hours with no ref

>>1116578
i thought it was michael jackson

>>1116593
nice, eyes are maybe a bit far apart though.

>>1116593
lighting seems inconsistent
nose too dark and the shaded cheek side is actually brighter than the lighted one

>>1116593
Great! I really like how ypu made lips, they perfectly blend with the rest of the face.

>>1116593
Great so far but that's a rough sketch, get to refining so you know how to refine. Color even if you're feeling daring. Also the eye on our left might be a bit too far to the left and a bit smaller than her right. Nostril on our left might be a bit to high as well.

Coloring the sketch I was working on last night. I've always been bad at coloring, so any crits would be great.

>>1116626
Forgot pic.

Did a study to try an alternative style of painting. gradually let it turn into my usual flat muddy monstrosity.

>>1116628
I feel like this would benefit a lot from changing the expression. Something harsher, you know. It seems kind of plain as is.

Something I was doing.
It got boring and I lost the reference picture, though, don't know when I'll finish.

>>1116628

Rotate the wall to be more perpendicular to the viewing plane (though not entirely). It doesn't feel...right. Slow almost.
Also, make the left hand as a box, place the box on the wall, then draw the hand. Right now it's not angled correctly, I know, it's a pain. Looking at it, I'm guessing you don't like hands much anyway, and feet. Like most people.
Get over it.

Oh wait, you wanted crits on colouring. Block in more, large brushes, everything at once, get a feeling of the complete colour and light composition. Lower the spacing on your brush (so you don't get that blotchyness)
Work on top of your lines, not underneath. Or if you want to keep them, do them properly first and then colour it.
Look at Nathan Fowkes work.
Form over detail, form over detail.

Face is fairly uninteresting as is anyway.

>>1116638

OH MY GOD WHERE IS ITS EYE.

Funny, I always do the eyes as one of the first things, many people do I believe.

Nice colours. Uncertain about the tones, since it's fairly unfinished.
Cool planks yo.

So, I put everything in stages, I guess.
"First Draft": Just like a sketch, but not really a sketch, because I got really into it.
"Stencil": It looked cool without all of the pencil marks and shading. (shit picture, sorry)
"Redo: 'Final'": Redoing it on good ass paper. Scared to work on it further with ink because I don't want to do it over and over.

Ref: http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&section=&q=moan#/dkpwub

Sorry for the shit pictures.

Critique wanted.

>>1116566

I'm to add the ocean, but any tips before i shade and colour?

Also yet to add tone and texture

>>1116633
His eyes see forever

>>1116566

>Dat Fist of the North Mugi

My god... Words cannot describe... should have... sent a poet...

Self portrait WIP. idk crit I guess... feedback maybe.

>>1116675
Your eyes must be terrifying

>>1116675
Get a haircut, quit been a retarded teenager and draw those eyes right. What in the fucking hell.

>>1116677
;_;

umm but what about the actual drawing.

>>1116675
Hopefully, you will grow to fit the size of your nose.

>>1116681
That hurts, bro.. that hurts.

>>1116675

>dat greasy hair

Soften that shit up, son. Unless you actually don't wash your hair... in which case, good job!

>>1116680
I decided that a critique on your character and attitude would be more appropriated and serve you better.

>>1116685
Where does it look greasy? I can't tell.

Thanks

>>1116686
Right, okay. well thanks

>>1116682
Cranium could be bigger
Nose could be smaller
Greasy scruffy hair already mentioned
And when people talk about Jawline, they don't mean that in the literal sense.

worken on dis

>>1116675
Glasses are a bit sloppy and out of perspective. Fix that.

Reference is Caravaggio.

Don't know the name of the painting, perhaps anyone knows?

>>1116691
No you are not

>>1116689
Well, from the fact it looks like you are trying to pull off spaghetti hair might be a critical factor as to why it looks greasy. It also may be attributed to the palette you are using which makes the hair look like clumps of greasy dog hair rather than human hair.

Oh, and welcome to /ic/, stop being a pansy and get with the program

And I'm done with this

I think

or hope so

>>1116703
Okay thanks. where does it look greasy so I can fix that?

>>1116710
If you had a haircut, or at least showered, you wouldn't have that problem. You could start by not using mud as highlights.

>>1116706
touch up the bottom

>>1116712
:/ yeah I had showered the night before, guess I should have showered before taking the picture. oh well..

>>1116714
And one more thing, don't do self portraits from pictures, for fuck's sakes. Unless you're such a tightwad that you have to pay yourself to model.

>>1116715
Right-o

/ic/

jealous women critiquing false modest gay gentlemen that paints with mud

>>1116717
Daww that kinda hurts

>>1116696

>>1116720
That hands sucks and you know that.

>>1116721
>the hand sucks
>sucks

you see, I really really WANT to take you seriously, but when you use non-specific terms like "sucks" and never elaborate on what I'm doing "wrong"- you're not helpful and just insulting.

so please, elaborate.

>>1116691
How did you bruise your hand like that?

>>1116722
The anatomy is wrong. The thumb is not right, some fingers are fat some are thin, the middle finger is huge, the arm is wrong and that purple make it look like you pounded it for hours on some hard surface, likely, your bonehead, sir.

>>1116724

not to be disrespectful, or anything, but I was looking for something a little more helpful than an anatomy post.

anything else?

>>1116728
Where is your light source, is it coming from the left or the right? And you need to fix that anatomy, unless you're trying to depict a deformed hand.

>>1116724
i think he's going for something a little more illustrative, and he has enough skill to "stretch" the anatomy

this is above your skill level, just sit in the corner and read that loomis

>>1116730

I am. I like deforming my subjects! what's wrong with that? :)

light source is varied. left finger isn't recieving enough highlight- yes, and there's not enough turn off in the shadow of the ring finger, compared to the pinky- although I kind of like the contrast in depth. might play with that. none of this is supposed to be hyper realistic medically accurate anatomy. the end of the thumb is shit, of course, but I was told to not make it realistic by the band I'm doing this for. so I decided to take it into my own hands and fuck with things.

>>1116733

p.s. didn't mean to make it sound like I was saying i'm not going to work on the thumb- I am.

probably going to spend another 5 hours or so on this. who knows.

>>1116732

please, with respect to the poster- do not antagonize people. this is what gets me in trouble.

>>1116734
shut up faggot, i follow you on tumblr and it's a free country

thoughts?

>>1116733
>I am. I like deforming my subjects! what's wrong with that? :)
If it's your style, why are you asking for critique? And, sorry, but you're no Egon Schiele.

>>1116737
A reply devoid of intelligence.

>>1116733
hi foals. in most of the hand, i don't think there's enough variation from the background. the orange looks good with the fleshtones generally, but, i want the highlights of the hand to pop more. wish it had a green layer underneath the hand.
i like where your strokes seem to break down to geometric shapes.

>go on /s/
>draw first thing i see
> fuck yeeeee

>>1116741
>not enough variation with the background

I agree. any tips on emphasizing contrast? the background I have to eventually incorporate is dirt/soil, and I'm actually having a bit of trouble making it read as dirt, while still maintaining contrast WHILE still maintaining the stroke/geometric pattern that I'm working with.

>more highlights

gotchya

>green layer

I've been debating on whether or not to go ahead and do that but I guess since you mentioned it I will. I used green in the fingers but left it out in the rest. thanks for picking up on that!

thanks! very helpful!

>>1116745
green will make it look a little more zombie/corpse-y

if that's what you want

>>1116736
>thoughts?
Han shot first is what I think.
The colors are nice, but the background, back of the head and body could use more work and refining.

>>1116748

green by itself, yes, but depending on the variation of green I use mixed with the various hues I have in the hand (ranging from yellow to orange to violet) will bring it down and give a boost to the flesh tone and make it more realistic since it won't exclusively be orange/yellow/brown. i think i'll add some blue too actually.

>>1116743
i'll finish it some other day...

>>1116815
the thumbnail is really pretty

>>1116821
I was about to say the same damn thing

Random bs.

tiny eyes

>>1116850
I really like your stuff

*slowly backs away*


sorry for the excess of shit.

messing around with this sketch last night

>>1116858
What is this?

>>1116858
>one-vox

it's glorious!

>dat loose stroke mixed with tight rendering for dat dynamic stroke patterning and stuble lighting hnnghhh

glad you came back!

>>1116815
could i see source image?

I'd like to work on that too.

>>1116848
that ink or pencil or charcoal?

I can't see goddamit!

>>1116865
Have fun

>>1116866

pencil

>>1116872
you can stay.

>>1116871
awesome, uhhh here's something in return

>>1116633
>>1116736

same dude as.

WIP.

>>1116948
Neeson? Not seeing it yet. Not sure what is missing though. Wizard had good resemblance.

was going to just sketch then colour over the lines, but then I kind of liked the lines, and it was only a quick sketch anyway.

How am I doing so far?

Progress.
I have no idea how this will look when I start blending, never used this method before.

Did this over the weekend, another character thing

>>1117171
Man, you have all the technical skill but no fucking imagination.
Your drawing looks boring. Kick it up a notch, BAM.

>>1117178
Thanks, I think lol

>>1117056
update, kind of decided to paint over with detail. I like it so far.

>>1117178
I have been trying to make my designs more interesting, I don't really do much straight up design stuff.

This was just me foolin around

crits?

>>1116733
Fuck that guy dude. If this was an album cover I'd buy the album any day.

dont use black they said

>>1116750
Why the fuck would you use greens?

Use blues instead

Complimentary man

last thing i drew...

i really need to get back at work.

Vilpu studies any critique on the last 5 panels of hand studies?

I made a comic page, not happy with a couple of things though.

>>1117185
finished.

>>1117354
At first glance
- I like it
- First hand+pistol seems closer to the viewer than the body it is attached to
- Victim sort of seems to be wearing a scarf. Is that intended to look that way?

>>1117362
He's supposed to be wearing a trench coat with a really flared collar. And a neck badge, I can see the problem with the hand, I was trying to make him look like a muscular manly man by giving him huge hands but looks like it backfired.

>>1117367
Me personally, I like it, the main problem I have are his clothes. For some reason they don't look... well, as real as he does. You drew him very well, but the clothes look a tad... off, I can't really put my finger on it.

>>1117361

no you're not.

worky work work. i love illustrator's blob brush

>>1117361
very well captured form, well done

>>1117393 :)
check out mine? urlformywebcomic.tumblr.com

I want to thank the anon that told me to look up Nathan Fowkes, he's been a lot of help. So, I started using that method with the face, hair, and a bit of the arm. Since the wall is angled differently, twisting her arm and hand to be angled correctly makes it look like it's dislocated. Also, again, any help with the color would be appreciated.

>>1117505
is that supposed to be an old lady? also she isn't really leaning into the motion, making it seem kinda stiff.

>>1117505
i wish there was more twist and lean in that pose

>>1117507
Young, actually. I haven't gotten around to completely smoothing the lines I made when I was mapping the planes of her face.

>>1117511
Should I swing her hips around, then? Bring it so her legs are over the wall more?

>>1117234
they were right

A few drawings of my fellow patrons at Starbucks. Too lazy to use real paint, so I just stained it with the coffee I was drinking. Thoughts?

>>1117525
nice

bottom left head though is fucked anatomy wise, study some 3/4 portraits and work on learning the shape of the head, it's surprisingly square from the side/ 3 quarter

>>1117527
Looking back I can see that, I was mad because I couldn't capture the form as he was a very talkative real estate agent. I'll work on that in the future, thanks dude.

Never really worked in acrylic, this was a first time thing so I figured I'd do a study for my first attempt. It's a slight variation on Rembrandt's Self-portrait. I used cardboard because I was too afraid to use real canvas.(Plus, I don't like the feel of canvas.)

>>1117520
eh something. more twist in the torso or in the hips or a stronger show of foreshortening in the arm on the right or something along those lines.

everything is facing the same plane right now. just about the entire figure is facing the viewer in the same plane. the only real foreshortening I can see is the thighs.

were you using reference?

also I think the old thing is coming from the bags under the eyes, the grey hair, the sunken cheeks and the deep dimples, just so you know what to work on.

>>1117530
download the vlippu videos if you havent already and draw some skulls..helped me a lot, good luck bro

>>1117533
> cardboard

>>1117533
>cardboard
>Because illustration board is too mainstream.

Is this nigga serious?

>>1117535
I have seen them actually, here's some more sketches. I'm really not that bad at illustrating the human head I don't think (Not that I'm flawless). I loved vilppu's video on hips/ the pelvis the most though, it helped me so much!

>>1117539
>Implying cardboard's a bad thing
I was told it was a good alternative for beginners. It worked out well, why must I use something like canvas when cardboard, wood, and more organic things exist? Not that I claim to be amazing, but canvas/illustration board shouldn't be the limit as far as painting goes.

>>1117534
That's not the ref I was using, actually. I couldn't get the ref right and I just kept adjusting the picture until it looked different from what I was using. But that picture's a great help, thanks. I'll put some foreshortening in the torso as well.

I fixed the old thing. The hair's actually supposed to be a very light blonde. Though I can see it looks gray on the right side.

>>1117539
>>1117546
>and then these faggots arrive

>>1117554
>>1117548

I'm not saying you can't, I do think cardboard is straight up silly. Stop hiding behind the idea that you're being "crafty" by using it. Acrylic is a very forgiving medium, so use the better shit, and thank me later.

30min WIP while I avoid homework

time to get back to reading...

>>1117560
Crafty? Don't think so. Cheap? Yeah, saying you need to use canvas is like saying that an artist needs to start on arches paper with windsor newton. If I'm scared of canvas because I'd be wasting it, why not use a cheaper alternative that I don't mind ruining?

>>1117533
>>1117548
Nothing wrong with using cardboard if you want, but when its unprimed the surface of the cardboard is not going to be as easy to work on. Try to prime it using some Gesso and see how you like that. And yeah you are right cardboard is recommended often to beginners because its so cheap to get in large quantities.

>>1117563
illustration board is cheap by the way

use all the cardboard you want ya 3rd world cunt

>>1117569

Go drive your cunt into a tree. Canvas doesn't matter if you're a shit artist to begin with. Cardboardchan is clearly skilled and can work on any medium, you cunt.

To Cardboardchan, you're fucking awesome. Post more cardboard shit.

>>1117563
Who the hell would use canvas with acrylic?

>>1117563
bro i know your feel
you can buy a really cheap 5 to 7 pack of canvas for 10 bucks at michaels, they give out 40-50 percent off coupons every week too
its what i do
>still have unfinished canvas because im too afraid of ruining it and wasting money

>>1117569
I had Gesso, but I didn't use it. I didn't find the cardbaord to be hard to work with at all, but I did something kinda weird and watered down my acrylic and layed in a lightly done base "wash" almost. (Though I'm aware you're not supposed to water down acrylic) This process made it incredibly easy to work on the surface, should I go ahead and just try gesso the next time? I think the way I did it this time was somewhat successful as I was able to reserve a bit of that brown cardboard color, which I like.

>>1117570
umad because I'm the jew-est and get cardboard for free-ninety nine so I'll use it?
>>1117572
Who the hell's cardboard chan?
>>1117573
My high school art teachers.

>>1117569
>doesnt want to buy canvas because poor
>tell him to buy gesso
derp

You go ahead and listen to what your highschool art teacher tells you instead of doing the professional shit that matters for a portfolio. Done with you.

>mfw people don't realize you can substitute white acrylic paint for gesso because thats what gesso is

>>1117582
wrong

>>1117583
There are binders and such, but basically its just really thick acrylic paint. No one uses traditional gesso anymore

Ugh from roll thread. Trying to copy Joao Ruas

>>1117563
>>1117576

ok guys. here's the deal. if you're afraid to use nice materials then you're afraid to grow.

and really? primed canvas or illustration board + arcylic = if you mess up paint over that shit.

and as far as watering down acrylic, nothing new. look at eric fortune

p.s. primed illustration board is awesome

>>1117590
acrylic paint and illustration board go together like cookies and milk

>>1117586
.... acrylic and gesso are way different.
acrylic = plastic
gesso= chalk

>>1117576
Fair enough then, with the wash method you are using the unprimed cardboard should work well. I would say that using the Gesso with that method wouldn't work. If you want to try something more opaque go for the Gesso.

Also you might want to look into Designer's Gouache, its properties will suit you really well.

>>1117590
I prefer hot press myself, but that's ok I guess.

>>1117594
I bought some, awhile back and I think I should revisit it. The only problem I had with gouache is that when I had bought it, I wanted to use it like watercolor. I'd lay down my gouache and then I'd try to use thin layers of wet paint over the top of it and the new wet paint would revitalize the pigment beneath it and make one big blurry mess. . . if that makes any sense. Suggestions on how to prevent that?

>>1117354
first Im going to /k/ this shit up
1) Its a cop, a cop wouldnt hold the gun one handed
2) baddie shoots pistol from the hip
3) no ejected shell

now Im going to /co/ it apart
1) dem angles
dem angles man
- baddies gun points around the cops pelvic area at the time of the shot, no way he could hit him in the chest
- cops bullet, you know yourself whats wrong with it
- cops ejected shell flies with him backwards, thats bullshit
- cops gun is twisted upside down while falling, you´d need to apply really fucking strong force downwards to make it do that

and while all the shit I listed above can be ignored at will, there is one thing I want you to think about really thorough
- action
there are myriads of ways you could do that scene, now I wont make suggestions on how one could do it better, I´ll just point out what you did fundamentally wrong

upper panel´s foreground (baddies hand) is moving away from the reader towards the background

now Ill give it the benefit of the doubt and say that the
hand stands still in the middle panel

the lower panel thou moves with full force from the background into foreground as the guy is propelled backwards

now imagine if the baddie in the 1st panel would turn into the foreground instead of the background
you got an underlying direction of force throughout the whole page from the background in the foreground
catch my drift?

>>1117602
Some excellent dissection. I am curious it looks like an undercover cop, would an undercover cop still practice marksmanship form?

Also how much does it bother you when an artist or hollywood fucks up reality, or doesn't research enough? I mean I'm sure 99% of movies about snipers are not real, yet we still watch them in excitement. How much are you willing to accept?

>>1117599
Bleeding is a very common problem, along with cracking.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=536504

If you aren't looking to blend colors then the best bet is to wait until the previous layer is completely dry. Certain colors have a higher chance of bleeding and some of the colors are completely bleed-proof. With more experience you will figure out the best way to avoid it.
Try reading this for a lot of detailed info on gouache:
http://www.gnsi.org/journal/painting-gouache

>>1117612
>I am curious it looks like an undercover cop, would an undercover cop still practice marksmanship form?
well, such things as trigger discipline and holding the gun with both hands are more or less common sense
and I dont believe an undercover cop would wear his mark around the neck, kinda counter productive

>Also how much does it bother you when an artist or hollywood fucks up reality, or doesn't research enough? I mean I'm sure 99% of movies about snipers are not real, yet we still watch them in excitement. How much are you willing to accept?
"did not do the research" in any field is a huge boner killer for me by default

now about suspension of disbelief, Im willing to take any amounts of bullshit if its not relevant to plot or theme

if it is relevant though, I often find myself about to set my TV on fire and praise the rain gods for a healthy harvest

Been working on this for a little while, I'm having trouble making it a complete work and not so sketchy.

Was meant to be a study, but not being able to nail the likeness is pissing me off.
Help!

Update.

>>1117695

ref

So I made the hair blonder and changed the bottom half of her body entirely. I still have to fix the hands but I definitely think the position looks much better. (Thanks for helping me pinpoint what was off!)

In progress obviously. Color pencil

>>1117354
the guns are waaay too large compared to their hands.
And what is that thing over the close up pistol? bullet?
In the final frame, dude's legs look like they've got amputated.

>>1117354
That gun shell wouldn't exit from the front and go back, like you've made the smoke do.
It'd go out to either the right or the left from about the middle of the gun, sideways and maybe a bit backwards.

>>1117354

How come at the very end of the barrell the gun has a huge block of metal sticking out the side of it but way back at the handle its flattened out?

So I drew this, critiques please. (blah blah i know, manga faces, im trying to learn proper facial structures atm, but doing manga faces just looks better for now while im learning)

>>1117771
Doesn't seem to be any weight on their feet, and those poses look very uncomfortable. How is the one on the left still standing when she has all but straightened her right leg out?

>>1117773
>Look Ma, the horse has no weight! It appears to be flying!!!

>>1117777
that horse is actually in the air and you can see it used it's front legs to get its back legs up in the air.
>>1117771 has the characters standing on some weird rock in awkward positions

>>1117778
the left figure appears to be jumping backwards.

>>1117773
>>1117778
>>1117779
Guys, it's called action poses.

>>1117781
No. Action poses have a sense of mid-movement, yours are just awkward normal poses lacking balance and weight distribution.

This is an action pose.