>stupid teenage kids only have 800 songs on their mp3 players

Sounds about right.
100% of those tracks were probably ripped from youtube.

>>35765352
Pirate in denial

>>35765331 (OP)
I only buy things I enjoy. I don't buy things I'm "just checking out" or things that are "just okay."

>software
Who the fuck buys software anyways?

>music
I listen to tons of music. Do you expect me to pay thousands of dollars for it?

>movies
I actually stopped pirating movies since Redbox became big. BR's and DVD's for $1.20? Fucks yes. I rarely watch a movie more than once so I don't really want to -own- them.

>>35765331 (OP)

I love mechanical keyboards, but I am too poor to buy them.

Am I hurting anyone? How much annual loss am I generating for mechanical keyboard manufacturers?

Why do they insist on using edgy teenager fonts?

>>35765331 (OP)
because teens don't want to spend $800 for music?

>>35765352
>only have 800
>only
HUR LOOK AT ME GUYS IM SUCH A HARDCORE AUDIOPHILE I HAVE LIKE 2000 SONGS ON MY MP3 PLAYER OMG I HATE NORMALFAGS!!!!!!!!!!

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preposterous! poor kayne west can't afford fifth jet
i say put them in jail for life that scum

>>35765380
Every time you consider buying one and then don't is a lost sale to that industry. So it depends on you. However, conservative estimates say that you think about it at least 50 times a day, costing the mechnical keyboard industry at least $5000 daily. Factoring everyone who has ever used a computer keyboard, the mechanical keyboard industry loses a hefty 10 billion dollars a day.

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>>35765331 (OP)
I also believe in Free Software, which has flourished since its inception despite, for the most part, no demands being levied in way of financial compensation.

>>35765331 (OP)
>stick $900000000000000000000001 labeled pricetag on iPhone
>walk into a black neighborhood
>get iPhone stolen
>claim $900000000000000000000001 in damages

the actual worth, people

but I use free software

We don't need to adapt to the producers' ways of distributing music, the producers need to adapt to our ways of obtaining music.

I would actually buy music if they were only 10-25 cents a pop. I just can't bring myself to buy a song for $1.

>>35765331 (OP)
>Annual loss
>loss
>Implying I'd pay what ever the extortionate price is these days to watch a film
If they want to blame anyone blame the cinemas for jacking their prices up.

Also regarding software, I'm not going to pay £600+ for CS6 and neither is anyone else who isn't a professional (I mean that as in they earn money from their work, not their skill level). If they lowered the price to even £60 they'd make a shit ton more money (not that they don't make enough already), you can bet for every one person willing to pay £600 there are more than ten people who would pay £60.

As for music, I listen to pretty much everything these days on Youtube. Sure I use Adblock, but the producer made the decision to stick it on there whilst relying on an optional form of monetising.

>>35765331 (OP)
How do they even generating those statistics? By looking at video views on youtube? Downloads count? They see 10000 using this software and really assume all of them professionals who would buy it anyway?

>>35765471
They make it up. No, seriously.

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Yar har, fiddle di dee,
Being a pirate is alright to be,
Do what you want cause a pirate is free,
You are a pirate!

>>35765491
What's with all the /b/tards today?

Music, TV shows, Movies and software. I've actually running Win 8 now, which I bought for almost nothing when it came out, before that I was running a pirated win 7 ultimate since 2010.

>figures and estimates


They are assuming that people would actually buy the product if they did not pirate it.

>>35765499
Whats with all these vir/g/ins getting baited in troll threads today?

Who BUYS software? I can't think of any software that isn't free that doesn't have a free alternative, except PS (unless you consider gimp good)

If I think that the band really deserves my money then they fucking get it. Celeste (French Black Metal) offer all their albums for free (or at least they did when I got to know them) - as soon as I found out they did I ordered all their albums. It's things like that when I really want to throw my money at someone.

Overall though, pirating things is just so much more convenient. I see a movie mentioned somewhere, bam, an hour later I've got the Blu-Ray of it on my HDD.

>>35765331 (OP)
l2math

>http://www.ted.com/talks/rob_reid_the_8_billion_ipod.html

They can assign whatever dollar amount they want to the stuff I download. Truth is, most of it is complete tripe and simply isn't worth the money. I would buy more if it were priced reasonably, or were less shitty. I've not heard of any record companies, software companies, or movie studios going bankrupt recently.

Oh, and >>35765385

>Implying 0s and 1s have any value
Brainwashed faggots. Let's start copyrighting any number with only a 1 and a 0 in it.

I pirate movies and music, but not software (except for Photoshop).

>>35765611
Australian here.

Charge us higher than the US, won't buy your stuff. Simple.

I downloaded some youtube video clips and listen to them. Did I pirate things?

I think I have some hacked apps on my android. Sorry for that. I am too poor and lazy to buy apps and music

Ah, you got to love the newspeak.
>lack of profit is a loss
>war is peace
>freedom is slavery
>ignorance is strength

>>35765331 (OP)
>figures are estimates

>>35765331 (OP)
That image reminds me of an article about why x86 is better than ARM and right on top of the webpage there was a big "Sponsored by Intel" banner.

>>35765611
>(except for Photoshop).
Adobe doesn't mind, really. As long as you go to the trouble of learning Photoshop and not something else that you might be tempted to pay for.
It worked for Microsoft.

>>35765711
We have a subscription for me at the office for CC PS (the designer gets a complete package) so I guess it's okay.

>>35765711
Explain why does Adobe not offer free licenses for personal use or at least very low prices.

>>35765471
Pretty easy, they set up a imaginable goals. Lets say I want to earn 100 dollar with my software but I only earn 50 dollar for whatever reason.
These 50 dollar get reported as lost even though they never even had them in for guaranteed.

>Software
Too pricey. $800 for image editing software, fuck you!

>Music
I listen to far too much music. I wouldn't have the cash to pay for it all.

>Movies
Because I hate sitting in theaters with loud assholes.
Because most movies are only worth seeing once. Not owning.

>Games.
Use to pirate but then I got Steam.
Still don't buy as many games because most FTP games are more entertaining these days.

i pirate shit that comes on crappy optical media
i buy good old video game cartridges, this shit lasts and its made of high quality materials and not to mention eternal mask roms.

Why would I love corporations?

>>35765809
Why do you buy licenses for games? Why the hypocrisy?

In fact, one of my favorite artists doesn't even care about piracy.

>buying software
Do you even freedoms?

Main reason is I'm Australian
I dont pirate games though
other then that the music I listen to over cbarges for Australia or cost heaps to buy physical due to shipping

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>>35765832
Because it's cheap and quicker than sifting the web for a clean version of a game.
So far I've only purchased 11 games through steam and that's over the span of two years.

I dont pirate games much after i got steam. only like 3 in the last few years.

ill get all my music from MOG.

ill only every watch a movie once or twice. im not paying $30 to watch something twice. im getting netflix in a week or 2.

>>35765863
being australian sucks in the online world.

>>35765893
That feel when no trap lover.

>>35765832
Assuming you're not a troll:

I'd buy licenses for everything else too if they had a distribution service that priced content reasonably, offered a better experience than piracy, and understood the modern world. At the moment, the only such services are only available for games (and perhaps netflix)

>>35765893
What do you mean by "clean"?
I hope some crappy old valve games.

>>35765921
The correct usage is
>tfw no qt trap gf


I just have to not think about it otherwise it wrenches my heart out.

>>35765927
I can't use netflix in my country so that only leaves steam and gog.

>>35765927
I'm not, why would I be? It's a legitimate question.
There's no reasonable price for duplication of data.
I'm not judging your opinion on copyright anyway, just asking why the double-standard (I will pay for what is enough cheap for me!).

>LOSS
>LOSS
>LOSS
what in the fuck
are they implying that ANYONE would buy their bullshit?
Most software (mostly gaymes) and movies are only worth of pirating.

>>35765918
Don't get Netflix. It is shit.

If the artist got a bigger cut and they had a better delivery system then I would think about buying music.
Also the price should be cheap like $2 for a whole album so it encourages you to collect a big legit library.

Also as others have said, Australia get charged more for the same digital product so they are their own worst enemy.

>>35765331 (OP)
I usually pirate music and movies because it's a better deal, even excluding the money part.

I mean most digital downloads are riddled with DRM and it just not a portable as a pirated copy, why would I spend money on a more limited copy? Not to mention most price are absurd. 20€ for a movie? No, just no.

Services like Spotify are also a better offer, but stuff like Netflix isn't even available in my country.

Software and games are a different story, software I don't buy because I don't need it, all I use are freeware or OSS, except for Windows itself which is given to me for free on Dreamspark. And games I usually get on Steam Sales, because full price for a digital copy is also absurd.

Because I'm poor

In all seriousness though I mostly pirate vidya and I end up buying it if I like it anyway

You're an idiot. It says at the bottom that those figures are made up, and not even by an impartial third party.

>>35766005
Do as this anon says.
Netflix is shit.

Enjoy waiting months for movies to update.
Enjoy The pain as a movie never makes it onto Netflix.
Just don't do it.

>>35765331 (OP)

i havent pirated in a long time

except from windows 8, paid 40 britbongs for it, did a clean install only to find out the key doesnt work for clean installs, uwotm8

all music is done from spotify
what little movies i watch are from netflix
all games are from steam

>>35765434
Lawfag here. You pose a very interesting scenario.

>>35765434
I thought your apps were tied to your Apple account, rather than your iPhone...

>>35765331 (OP)
And yet the movie and record industries' profits keep going up.

>>35765376
>Who the fuck buys software anyways?
Professionals, software developers etc

>I listen to tons of music. Do you expect me to pay thousands of dollars for it?
No, $5/month would be more than enough.

>>35765999
I know, people who make that argument are so retarded.
>potential sale=sale!

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That great feeling when the local drive-in treats you better than the local theater.

>$6.00 get you three movies
>Said movies are played a week ahead of it's release date in theaters.
>No loud as fuck annoying people.
>Great car controlled temperatures.
>Bring whatever food you want!

>>35765999
>>35766194
Just shut the fuck up, if downloading wasn't easy or impossible 99% of us would buy music and videos.

Just stfu.

>>35766058
This. Especially when a game that I liked ends up being 75% off during a sale. The music I like are mostly vidya game soundtracks. I doubt there would show up in an average CD shop or itunes.

>>35766218

these*

>>35766058
>>35766218
No you don't, you're not guying to buy a game which you pirated before and beat 100%.

Just stfu.

>>35766236
different guy but anyway
I did for portal and portal 2. even finished the co-op mode of portal 2 but then it went on sale for like $5 each for i bought it

>>35765331 (OP)
that's bullshit, the percentages are all wrong, speaking as someone who has talked to software publishers they basicaly don't give a fuck about piracy since statistically like 90% of the people who pirate something would not buy it if it wasn't free. The same concept applies to the others.

This shit is just propaganda.

>>35766236

I just did with Borderlands 2 during the last Steam sale.

>>35765331 (OP)
Well then, tell corps to stop selling a copy of a movie for $60 even though it costs them $0 to copy and to make the creaqting cost back they can do that easily with $10 price tag and then i will buy it

Calling every single piece of "pirated" content a "loss" is ridiculous as it assumes people would buy the product if not for piracy.

I don't pirate. I share. Everyone should watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNBMdDaYhZA

When did sharing become a crime? After DMCA law was passed. You cannot share your books your movies and your programs. Your freedom to share is restricted.

Oh no pretentious old men running the world are earning 10 billion instead of 20!

>>35765408
With 160gb, why wouldn't i hoard my music?
I can go a week without hearing the same song twice

>>35765331 (OP)
Because I don't have any money.

I will pirate shit as long as kanye west keeps buying golden toilets

>The Average teen ipod contains $800 of illegal ipod
For once in my life I thought I was above average, but I'm not a teen.

>>35766236
I do all the time, though. Same with movies and (to a lesser extent because all buying options are shit) music.

>>35766116
your mum poses a very interesting scenario

>not buying music on vinyl then pirating it for a digital copy

>The average teen ipod contains over $800 of illegal music
I'm going to assume that this is counting them as individual sales, which I believe are 79 cents each on iTunes, where they probably calculated the price.

>Just over 1000 songs
How can people live like this.

>>35766343
>Paying for low quality audio

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>>35766351
>$15,637.26

yeah i would never be able to pay for that.

software is too expensive
music is too expensive
movies are too expensive
yup

So if I listen to music on Youtube I'm not pirating? But I'm listening to it without paying for it? And if the file is stored somewhere in my browser cache and I just keep that file, am I pirating? Or does the way Youtube work mean everyone who has ever watched Gangnam Style a pirate?
>inb4 yes and psy is the richest man on earth after lawsuits

How many songs do you fags have?

>>35765921
>>35765942
>not wanting natural women

>>35766405
>inb4 adblock users are the scum of the earth

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>>35765331 (OP)

>For a new album going for $16 the artist gets $1.60

Niggers that's the publisher's fault.

>>35766432
Why would you want one of those when you could have a qtpi trap bf?

Can't have either master race

If music/film/software is so unprofitable, how come there are more musicians/filmmakers/programmers than ever before?

>>35766394
>average 6.6mb
stay pleb

>>35766452
You don't understand. That image thinks that number is a GOOD thing.

>>35766405
Yes in Google's eyes.
That was money they could have scammed out of you in their music store.

>>35766217
>99% of us would buy music and videos.
and macs. Dont forget about iMacs.
>>>/b/ ----->

>>35766470
Because this is all a ploy to make corporation look weak and needy.

>>35766217
I already buy music and films. I would probably buy less if I couldn't pirate them first.

>>35766217
I'd probably just stream music and browse /g/ all the time.

>>35766440
>not whitelisting sites you like using to support them

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>>35766415

What's a good usenet provider?

>>35765331 (OP)
i purchase almost all my games on steam because its easy, convenient and the price is right.
The only thing keeping me from buying music and movies is basically the price and the drm. I mean, I buy an album off itunes today, what the fuck happens to itunes tomorrow? Do I still get to keep my album?
From other failed industries in this market. It seems like I do not. So, fuck'em.
Besides, i do not approve of the manner in which they treat their musicians and actors or anything they really do. I do, however, buy mlp stuff since they seem to treat their employees well and lax on copyright

>>35766405
>Or does the way Youtube work mean everyone who has ever watched Gangnam Style a pirate?

The video is hosted on his channel.

>>35766522

No it doesn't. That picture is saying "If you didn't pirate so much artists would make more per album" which just isn't true in any way shape or form.

>>35766209
Im 21 and own a $8000 car but no license
you now convinced me to get it
thanks

Why would I want to pay for proprietary software?
Why would I want proprietary software on my system in the first place?

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>>35766415
Not much.

>>35765753
When companies provide software free for personal use only, corporations use it for free and don't give a shit. Doing the same with Photoshop would make Adobe's sales plummet.

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>>35766217
I'd stream it and make copies of whatever my friend buys.
You know, like what people use to do before the mp3 file format/mp3 player became a big thing.

>>35766582
I interpreted to mean "because artists make this much per album you're hurting them directly."

>>35765331 (OP)
I bet they believe that if the teenager did not pirate the music they would have it.

>>35766576
Well. all music on iTunes is DRM-free, so you do get to keep your albums. You can move them anywhere.

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>>35766621
>friend

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>>35766415

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>>35766415

>>35765944
http://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTips/comments/17tf1n/lpt_if_you_use_netflix_out_of_the_us_use_this/

>>35766621
Why does the record industry see sharing files as any different than loaning CDs to others?

>>35766576
iTunes hasn't had DRM on their music for quite some time.

I don't buy from iTunes because I'm not going to pay $1/song for 256kbps aacs when I can pirate flacs instead.

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>>35766415
Not that much
Slowly replacing all this shitty mp3 with flac

>>35766639
Not the videos and movies. They're all DRM'ed up to hell and can't be downloaded in a DRM free format. Goggle play video is worse, it's DRM or streaming only.

There is no true drm-free device for movies. You are forced to pirate if you want it portable (from one system to another.)

>>35766236
What's that Total War series? You are on sale? You better believe I bought a copy of each game except napooop.

Nearly complete SR3? Yeah, I bought it when it was on the humble THQ bundle for like six bucks. I got a couple other gaems too but they aren't my deal.

>>35766554
>whitelisting anything google

Implying i don't donate money directly to the artists who's music i get via torrents

It's honestly a service issue for me. Ever since growing up and getting an income, I've stopped pirating games; buying titles on Steam is cheap and convenient enough not to bother with piracy.

If there was a Steam for movies, I'd probably pirate fewer movies as well. Netflix is convenient, but their library is just not good enough.

>>35766676

>slowly replacing shitty mp3 with shitty flac

FTFY

>>35766776
Oh boy, incoming retard who actually thinks vinyl is somehow infinitely superior to digital audio.

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>>35766415
About tree fiddy

>>35766776
muh flacs aren't shitty

>>35766576
>drm

>GF has entire harry potter collection
>She paid for all these outdated previews that you can't skip or watch after the fucking movie
>Also the lol fbi warning

>>35766668
Because Greed.

The same problem was had with the boom of the CD and CD-player, but the campaign against it wasn't that large or noticeable.
Also, Fuck was there a lot of software offered to burn or make copies of your music Windows still has one of the features built into the OS.

I miss making custom skins for the CD and CD-case.

>software
I only use FOSS software.

>music
The majority of the music I hear doesn't cost anything. If there is an artist I like, I support him through concerts or the like.

>movies
Are best viewed in cinemas or on a DVD, both of which are next to impossible to pirate.

>losses through piracy
Most pirates I know wouldn't have bought it anyway.

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>>35766809
>I only use FOSS software.

>>35766809
never heard of a dvd rip?

>>35766808
>The same problem was had with the boom of the CD and CD-player,
And the cassette

>>35766809

>dvd
>impossible to pirate

U WOT

>>35765331 (OP)
I don't pirate

>>35766842
yes you do

>>35766848
No, I don't.

>>35766853
Prove it

>>35766808

It has nothing to do with greed and everything to do with power. These people are swimming in money.

What they want is CONTROL. They want to control how and when you listen to music, and what kind of music you listen to.

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>>35766809
>Are best viewed in cinemas or on a DVD, both of which are next to impossible to pirate.

>>35766809
>Are best viewed in cinemas or on a DVD, both of which are next to impossible to pirate.
Good one.

>>35766861
I don't pirate software, because all the software I need is either free license, open source, or my company owns a license for it.

I don't pirate music, because Spotify.

I don't pirate films or series because Netflix and video-on-demand service I have at home.

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you know even if I could afford to buy everything in that folder i wouldn't the time spent lurking the interwebs for that one sweet rare album...

>>35766915
nice cropping faggot

>>35766884
>>35766861
Well, satisfied?

>copyright math

watch?v=GZadCj8O1-0

>>35766955
No because you spent all that time replying to a troll post, great work.

>>35766956
Why the fuck do people do this shit. Post the full fucking link you retard, you're not going to get banned. Holy shit.

>>35766841
>>35766835
>>35766868
I-I'm not very up to date with DVD piracy.

>>35766993
Apparently not, since it's been, what, almost ten years since DVD rips started to become popular?

We even rip blurays these days.

>>35766973
>all that time
I'm on 4chan. I'm supposed to be here to waste time anyway.

>>35766576
Why do people say Steam prices are right?
I've went on the site, checked prices of new games, they were the same as in a shop, and prices of used were lower (including shipping). Seriously, if you want old games, a used copy will be cheaper. But a license could prohibit selling a used copy.

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Probabky outdated, but whatever.

>>35767078
Because Steam regularly has sales where large swathes of games are available at like 80% off.

>>35766617
If a corporation would do this, they would be breaking the law, which would be detected in case of an audit. Equally, they could pirate a pay-for Ps or whatever, so this is a bad argument.

>>35767078
It's the Steam sales.

>>35767078
But buying used games is just as bad as pirating. ALL the money from the sale goes to whoever sold it. Not a single cent goes to the makers.

There are ZERO reasons to buy used games. ZERO

I don't. They hurt themselves by going with big producers. If I can buy directly from the artist, I will, but I refuse to pay money to big record companies.

>>35767101
How would an image like that be outdated?

>>35765331 (OP)

>download mp3

>it sucks, shift + del

>'hey anon you need to pay us $175,000 in damages'

>>35765408
> only 2000 songs

what is this 2005?

The only software I bought was traktor. Best $90 spent

>>35767142
maybe game of thrones is available in one or more of those places now

>>35767118

Unless you want a physical copy for cheaper than retail.

>>35767178
That's completely irrelevant, I think you're missing the point. The image is not about the game of thrones

>>35767178
Yeah but that's irrelevant to the point being made.

>>35767197
>>35767203
duh

Fuck the middle man trying to make profit from the author.

>>35767109
>>35767117
Cool, so once in a while you can get a decent price.
Once in a while stuff falls of trucks and you can get it for free. You just have to wait!
When's the sale for Alice: Madness Returns or Crysis 3?
>>35767118
Buying copies of movies and musics or books is always legal. With software it is unless the license prohibits that.

>>35767224
I guess you never shop from places like Amazon, supermarkets and such and always go directly to the source. Right?

>>35767224
>fuck the distributor helping the author promoting his stuff and making money
Although I agree with you, publishers and distributors have become largely irrelevant in today's market, with Internet and streaming services and whatnot.

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Why pirate music when you've got SoundCloud?

>>35767270
Does amazon take 95$ of the profit? No? Then we're fine.

i wrote my senior research paper on piracy. it doesn't do as much damage to the industry as you'd think. there's zero marginal cost to the creator. that money gets redistributed into the economy. we live in an age where we all make content for free, and share it with others

>>35767294
Only two kinds of people say those words, non-artists and broke artists.

>>35767288
>Does amazon take 95$ of the profit? No? Then we're fine.
Can't take 95$ of a 25$ album.

also, imagine if the government used a small portion of tax to hire programmers to build powerful, open source software. that'd be pretty cool

>>35767254
>Buying copies of movies and musics or books is always legal. With software it is unless the license prohibits that.

I never said it wasnt legal. By buying used games, you arent supporting the developers. just like when you pirate.

reasons I don't pirate as much anymore:
>Google music
8 bucks a month, unlimited access to all their music, stream from anywhere, and I can upload up to 20000 of my own songs to stream

>steam
cheap as fuck games

>Netflix/Hulu
(most) of the movies/tv shows I want to watch

only thing left to pirate is super expensive software (Photoshop) and movies for when I won't have internet or they're not on Hulu/Netflix

>>35765857
>buying software
>Do you even freedoms?

Did you forget it is ethical to sell software?

>>35767333
It does indirectly. Software produced at universities.

>>35767318
>There were no artists before the early 1700s

>>35767318
some of the best content creators in the world do it as a hobby. you don't need piles of $$$ to develop your craft

>>35767373

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nyHPIcbn88

>>35767344
Stop with you're false morality.
When buying licenses you aren't paying for the content creation but copying data. If you want to pay for the former, go do a wire transfer to the people that worked on the content.

>Software
Only free or licensed stuff.
I also pay for software if it's really worth it, but I prefer FOSS.

>Music
Youtube. I would never pay for music.
I would stop listening to music completely if it could make the content industry cease to exist.

>Movies
Same as above. I might go to the cinema if I really have to see it, but I'd rather not support the criminal scum.

They want to squeeze every fucking penny out of you, while shitting on you, collecting all your data and trying to persuade the governments to restrict your rights and then you're the immoral asshole if you won't let them.

sharing is caring

>>35767459

>>35767397
sounds good

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>>35767480
Fucking AppchanX and its broken file upload.

>>35767441
There's a lot of music outside of this industry.
I would stop consuming any pay-for media if it meant the whole cophyright business dies.

>>35765601
> Implying arrangements of atoms have any value
Brainwashed faggots. Lets start copyrighting anything made from atoms.

> This is how dumb you sound

>>35767532
Once 3D printers will be useful for real production, a paradigm change like that might actually happen.

>>35767397
I'm not sure what this is supposed to prove.

>>35767509
that's where the extra 20000 songs to upload come in.

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>>35767373
>you don't need piles of $$$ to develop your craft

"I was able to get the crew and cast of our feature film to work for free. I was also able to get the 4K cameras and the rest of our equipment for less than the price of a Big Mac. Also, location permits? All free. The city of New York let us shut down traffic on four whole blocks for the entire day and it cost us nothing!

Plastercity Digital Post in LA did a stellar job on post-production, considering it was free. Industrial Light & Magic in San Francisco gave us a nice freebie and did stellar VFX work and it looks awesome, but did I tell you we didn't even have to reach in our pockets?

We were able to get this 3-hour epic done with as much change as it takes to get a Hershey's bar."

>>35767532
>Lets start copyrighting anything made from atoms.
So? What's the issue?
>walk down street
>see a cool car
>scan it with a portable scanner
>get estimated required resources
>buy the resources and print the copy with your personal 3D printer

>>35765331 (OP)
I pirate because I want free shit, and I don't care about anybody except myself.

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Because I'm poor and can only afford so much music. I try to buy a CD, record or tape every once in a while.

>for a 16USD album the artist gets 1.6
That's exactly why. I only buy albums that go through donations or possible bandcamp sometimes. Sadly the really good people like lady gaga or pink don't sell their music like that.

>>35767555
I can't wait for 3D printers to become mainstream. You could download open source cutlery!! Once people start realizing what you can do, life will suddenly become a lot better.

>>35767581
one of my favorite films, Primer, was made on a budget of $7k. it grossed $425k at the box office

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>>35767604
>the really good people
>lady gaga
>pink
This has to be bait.

>>35767584
> You wouldn't download a car

>>35767604

>Sadly the really good people like lady gaga or pink don't sell their music like that.

who has the best bait.jpg picture here

>>35767581
Maybe we need less multimillion dollar movies, then.

I give money to creators when I go to concerts and buy shirts/cds/etc.

>>35767532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo19Y4tw0l8

>Companies investing a bitchton of money on anti-piracy measures and general DRM
>Complain about loosing money

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>>35767333
Yes, just what we need, more government intrusion in our daily lives.

>Software
I refuse to use a cracked copy of Windows, and any application I may have. Better safe than sorry, you know?
>Music
Spotify, Pandora, and a buttload of other streaming services are a thing
>Movies
So, paying for a monthly subscription to Netflix and Hulu Plus doesn't count? The rest of the services I use (Crunchyroll and Crackle) are free with ads...

>>35765331 (OP)
most of the pirates wouldn't buy the shit they download if they couldn't pirate so the "losses" are a big miscalculation

And I also tend to try product x by first downloading it and if it proves to be good, I go out and buy it. Thus I avoid losing my money for something I don't like.

>>35767625
>>35767639
Obviously a joke /v/. But I really do listen to tons of mainstream music. I just don't remember their names. I'm sure I think some pink songs are good.

>>35765376
>BR's and DVD's for $1.20
those fucking Brazilians are spreading

>>35767604
>Sadly the really popular people like lady gaga or pink don't sell their music like that.

Typos happen to everyone, just re-read your post before clicking submit.

>>35767673
>Obviously a joke /v/
You shitstains called me paranoid and projecting when I said /v/ is invading this place.

>>35767673
>Obviously a joke
Yes, and that's what we said in our posts.

>>35767673

>obviously a joke

confirmed for lady gaga loving faggot

>>35767691
>>35767698
>>35767689
Last I checked bait isn't jokes. But maybe I'm wrong.

I wouldn't give a fuck if those industries collapsed overnight.

Hell, I'd be fucking ecstatic.

>>35765376
how scratched are redbox dvds?

I don't pirate games or software, everything else is free game for me though.

>>35767509
Yeah.

Art should be support and encouraged.
However, it's not okay if the fast food of music industry (or any other industry) thinks it's their natural right that their financial interests weigh more than our fucking rights and our personal interests.
In my country there are additional taxes on all storage media (USB, HDD, SD, mobile phones...) just in case someone is going going to put some copyrighted stuff on it.

artist make almost nothing off record sales to begin with. they have a contract signing and they make bank on live tours.

plus, [spoiler]i just dont give a fuck[/spoiler]

>>35767741

you belong here

>>35767694

>>35767741
Even the little guys?

>>35767768
It's no secret that /g/ hates artists.

Why do you think they hate boards like /ic/ & /gd/ with a passion?

>>35767806
*Why else

>>35767768
The "little guys" aren't industry, no more then I'm part of the computer industry at my job (fixing computers for elderly people).

The computer market crashing wouldn't effect me, just like how the media industry crashing won't effect guys not attached to a larger company.

>>35767806
/g/ is not one person.

i download a lot of stuff, but i also buy a lot of stuff.
isnt there imperical evidence showing that those who pirate also consume more media legitimately then the average person?

>>35767806
I actually do hate artists. Fucking lazy faggots.

>>35767806
I hate what artists are not what they do. Every artist (aspiring or professional) is a piece of shit.

Decent bands realise and should embrace pirating their music because they know they have a better chance of building revenue when they do tours and shows. That is simple.

>>35767843
>Every artist
*I know

>>35765331 (OP)
Professionals need software, I get that. It shouldn't cost an arm and a leg to get the software in the first place just because you want to learn. Also, it doesn't help they "update" the software frequently.

Why not donate to the artists directly?
Go to their shows, buy their merch.

What happens on the profits for movies that are showing at $1 dollar theaters? If your movie sucks, not seeing it is not a reason for lack of profits. The movie sucking is the reason for the lack of profits.

>>35765331 (OP)
>for a new album going for $16 the artist gets $1.60
Blatant misinformation.

>>35767833
>isnt there imperical evidence showing that those who pirate also consume more media legitimately then the average person?
Yes, all of them I've seen have been rather limited in scope were performed in ways which many would argue don't give accurate results.

>>35767853
bands arent the ones that hunt yo down its the label.

the problem is exposure. how does an act get a larger fanbase? it is signed to a larger label with an advertising budget. with that comes creative control and people actively trying to crack down on pirates.

>>35767806
I don't hate, I envy people who can draw.

>>35767749
>additional taxes on all storage media (USB, HDD, SD, mobile phones...) just in case someone is going going to put some copyrighted stuff on it.

What are you, Hungarian?

>>35765331 (OP)
fuck you op, if I buy a chair I can let anyone I want to sit on it. So if I buy a song I can share it with anyone so they can listen right? fuck you

>>35765331 (OP)
>iTunes is the largest music retailer in the US.
Well that's depressing.

>>35765331 (OP)
>Artist only gets 10% of my purchase
Haha, that's what you get for not going
indie.

>>35767605
>Printing guns will be holding the #1 spot on all schematics sites.

>>35765331 (OP)

>implying people would use stuff if they couldn't get it for free

>>35767935
Nah. It will probably be sex toys.

Sex always wins.

>>35767935
i think its more about the fact that companies will need to find more efficient and cheaper ways to distribute their gear.

if i can make a spoon for 15 cents, they are going to need to sell me one for 13.

>>35767948
>make love not war

>Be in Denmark
>Breaking Bad is shown only on US TV
>Don't have US TV
>Could take a year before content is available here legally

Also this blatant disrespect from the industry makes it apparent that they don't deserve my moneys.
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blY0wOVSuYI

Also musicians make enough money off of concerts.

If a company doesn't wish to sell their software copying it is perfectly acceptable.

>>35768001
>Also musicians only make money off of concerts.
FTFY. The vast majority make pennies from album sales.

>>35768023
You should have gotten the bluray though.

>>35768001
GoT/Breaking Bad arent on australian free to air television, if i want to see it legitimately i have to wait for the dvd/blu ray release.

its not acceptable.

>>35768038
same deal, just sans the bluray ad

>>35767948
>>35767970
>printing 500 dragon dildos
one day

>>35765331 (OP)
Oh, piracy, will you ever go away?

I'm 30 years old... this is the same song and dance that's been going on since before I was even born.

When I was little piracy meant buying plain tapes labeled with sharpie from the street vendor on the corner

Then they sold CD's labeled with a sharpie

Then napster came out

Then when it was shut down morpheus, limewire, etc.

Piracy's not going away any time soon.

>>35768023
>Some Blu-Ray commercial that goes on and on about how much better it is than DVD.
The worst part is that BDs still have those, and they're even worse.

maybe this is why TV has been fucking awesome.

movies have gone to shit and the only territory left for good talent to go has been tv

>>35768077
Dragon dildos are already printed (that is, the forms are).

>>35766209
>Great car controlled temperatures.

Wait so you leave your car on with the AC running for 3 movies, let's say about 5-6 hours if the movies aren't that long?

I wonder how much CP producers loss money because piracy. It would be sad if they goes bankrupt because all of these pirate scums.

>>35768023
>commercials on discs

holy shit, america has these?

meine seiten

>>35768078
actually with the increased surveillance and crackdown on piracy options it has the potential to be incredibly hard to do, maybe DDL will come back or IRC, but we dont know yet.

>>35768099
By bad-dragon or just random people?

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>>35765331 (OP)
>games
Steam/Gamersgate/GoG sales when I can afford it.

>music
I download all of my music from Nicovideo.
I do occasionally buy CDs through CDJapan when I can afford it.

>movies
I don't watch movies. I've reached a level in weaboo-ness where amateur MMD videos entertain me enough.

>>35765331 (OP)
i don't love anything.

>>35768001
Netflix

>>35768084
really? i've only used bluray a couple times before, and they all involved copying the discs to a computer

i've never actually played one in a bluray player 'normally'

>>35768062
it is not acceptable, and it sucks that you would have to wait that long. last i heard was you'd have to watch it through HBO GO, which GoT is trying to get it available before season 4.

still sucks you have to pay for it at all, but by the time you get it on dvd/bluray errbody spoiled it for you via talk shows because THERES NOTHING ELSE TO FUCKING TALK ABOUT

>>35768135
not available in all countries.

>>35768121
By bad-dragon, though you can make one yourself and print a form or ready product.

>>35768141
Pretty much every BD has some completely retarded special feature that the BD makers shoehorn in as an incentive or some shit and they always spend 5 minutes harping on about how fucking great it is.