>stupid teenage kids only have 800 songs on their mp3 players

Sounds about right.
100% of those tracks were probably ripped from youtube.

>>35765352
Pirate in denial

>>35765331 (OP)
I only buy things I enjoy. I don't buy things I'm "just checking out" or things that are "just okay."

>software
Who the fuck buys software anyways?

>music
I listen to tons of music. Do you expect me to pay thousands of dollars for it?

>movies
I actually stopped pirating movies since Redbox became big. BR's and DVD's for $1.20? Fucks yes. I rarely watch a movie more than once so I don't really want to -own- them.

>>35765331 (OP)

I love mechanical keyboards, but I am too poor to buy them.

Am I hurting anyone? How much annual loss am I generating for mechanical keyboard manufacturers?

Why do they insist on using edgy teenager fonts?

>>35765331 (OP)
because teens don't want to spend $800 for music?

>>35765352
>only have 800
>only
HUR LOOK AT ME GUYS IM SUCH A HARDCORE AUDIOPHILE I HAVE LIKE 2000 SONGS ON MY MP3 PLAYER OMG I HATE NORMALFAGS!!!!!!!!!!

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preposterous! poor kayne west can't afford fifth jet
i say put them in jail for life that scum

>>35765380
Every time you consider buying one and then don't is a lost sale to that industry. So it depends on you. However, conservative estimates say that you think about it at least 50 times a day, costing the mechnical keyboard industry at least $5000 daily. Factoring everyone who has ever used a computer keyboard, the mechanical keyboard industry loses a hefty 10 billion dollars a day.

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>>35765331 (OP)
I also believe in Free Software, which has flourished since its inception despite, for the most part, no demands being levied in way of financial compensation.

>>35765331 (OP)
>stick $900000000000000000000001 labeled pricetag on iPhone
>walk into a black neighborhood
>get iPhone stolen
>claim $900000000000000000000001 in damages

the actual worth, people

but I use free software

We don't need to adapt to the producers' ways of distributing music, the producers need to adapt to our ways of obtaining music.

I would actually buy music if they were only 10-25 cents a pop. I just can't bring myself to buy a song for $1.

>>35765331 (OP)
>Annual loss
>loss
>Implying I'd pay what ever the extortionate price is these days to watch a film
If they want to blame anyone blame the cinemas for jacking their prices up.

Also regarding software, I'm not going to pay £600+ for CS6 and neither is anyone else who isn't a professional (I mean that as in they earn money from their work, not their skill level). If they lowered the price to even £60 they'd make a shit ton more money (not that they don't make enough already), you can bet for every one person willing to pay £600 there are more than ten people who would pay £60.

As for music, I listen to pretty much everything these days on Youtube. Sure I use Adblock, but the producer made the decision to stick it on there whilst relying on an optional form of monetising.

>>35765331 (OP)
How do they even generating those statistics? By looking at video views on youtube? Downloads count? They see 10000 using this software and really assume all of them professionals who would buy it anyway?

>>35765471
They make it up. No, seriously.

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Yar har, fiddle di dee,
Being a pirate is alright to be,
Do what you want cause a pirate is free,
You are a pirate!

>>35765491
What's with all the /b/tards today?

Music, TV shows, Movies and software. I've actually running Win 8 now, which I bought for almost nothing when it came out, before that I was running a pirated win 7 ultimate since 2010.

>figures and estimates


They are assuming that people would actually buy the product if they did not pirate it.

>>35765499
Whats with all these vir/g/ins getting baited in troll threads today?

Who BUYS software? I can't think of any software that isn't free that doesn't have a free alternative, except PS (unless you consider gimp good)

If I think that the band really deserves my money then they fucking get it. Celeste (French Black Metal) offer all their albums for free (or at least they did when I got to know them) - as soon as I found out they did I ordered all their albums. It's things like that when I really want to throw my money at someone.

Overall though, pirating things is just so much more convenient. I see a movie mentioned somewhere, bam, an hour later I've got the Blu-Ray of it on my HDD.

>>35765331 (OP)
l2math

>http://www.ted.com/talks/rob_reid_the_8_billion_ipod.html

They can assign whatever dollar amount they want to the stuff I download. Truth is, most of it is complete tripe and simply isn't worth the money. I would buy more if it were priced reasonably, or were less shitty. I've not heard of any record companies, software companies, or movie studios going bankrupt recently.

Oh, and >>35765385

>Implying 0s and 1s have any value
Brainwashed faggots. Let's start copyrighting any number with only a 1 and a 0 in it.

I pirate movies and music, but not software (except for Photoshop).

>>35765611
Australian here.

Charge us higher than the US, won't buy your stuff. Simple.

I downloaded some youtube video clips and listen to them. Did I pirate things?

I think I have some hacked apps on my android. Sorry for that. I am too poor and lazy to buy apps and music

Ah, you got to love the newspeak.
>lack of profit is a loss
>war is peace
>freedom is slavery
>ignorance is strength

>>35765331 (OP)
>figures are estimates

>>35765331 (OP)
That image reminds me of an article about why x86 is better than ARM and right on top of the webpage there was a big "Sponsored by Intel" banner.

>>35765611
>(except for Photoshop).
Adobe doesn't mind, really. As long as you go to the trouble of learning Photoshop and not something else that you might be tempted to pay for.
It worked for Microsoft.

>>35765711
We have a subscription for me at the office for CC PS (the designer gets a complete package) so I guess it's okay.

>>35765711
Explain why does Adobe not offer free licenses for personal use or at least very low prices.

>>35765471
Pretty easy, they set up a imaginable goals. Lets say I want to earn 100 dollar with my software but I only earn 50 dollar for whatever reason.
These 50 dollar get reported as lost even though they never even had them in for guaranteed.

>Software
Too pricey. $800 for image editing software, fuck you!

>Music
I listen to far too much music. I wouldn't have the cash to pay for it all.

>Movies
Because I hate sitting in theaters with loud assholes.
Because most movies are only worth seeing once. Not owning.

>Games.
Use to pirate but then I got Steam.
Still don't buy as many games because most FTP games are more entertaining these days.

i pirate shit that comes on crappy optical media
i buy good old video game cartridges, this shit lasts and its made of high quality materials and not to mention eternal mask roms.

Why would I love corporations?

>>35765809
Why do you buy licenses for games? Why the hypocrisy?

In fact, one of my favorite artists doesn't even care about piracy.

>buying software
Do you even freedoms?

Main reason is I'm Australian
I dont pirate games though
other then that the music I listen to over cbarges for Australia or cost heaps to buy physical due to shipping

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>>35765832
Because it's cheap and quicker than sifting the web for a clean version of a game.
So far I've only purchased 11 games through steam and that's over the span of two years.

I dont pirate games much after i got steam. only like 3 in the last few years.

ill get all my music from MOG.

ill only every watch a movie once or twice. im not paying $30 to watch something twice. im getting netflix in a week or 2.

>>35765863
being australian sucks in the online world.

>>35765893
That feel when no trap lover.

>>35765832
Assuming you're not a troll:

I'd buy licenses for everything else too if they had a distribution service that priced content reasonably, offered a better experience than piracy, and understood the modern world. At the moment, the only such services are only available for games (and perhaps netflix)

>>35765893
What do you mean by "clean"?
I hope some crappy old valve games.

>>35765921
The correct usage is
>tfw no qt trap gf


I just have to not think about it otherwise it wrenches my heart out.

>>35765927
I can't use netflix in my country so that only leaves steam and gog.

>>35765927
I'm not, why would I be? It's a legitimate question.
There's no reasonable price for duplication of data.
I'm not judging your opinion on copyright anyway, just asking why the double-standard (I will pay for what is enough cheap for me!).

>LOSS
>LOSS
>LOSS
what in the fuck
are they implying that ANYONE would buy their bullshit?
Most software (mostly gaymes) and movies are only worth of pirating.

>>35765918
Don't get Netflix. It is shit.

If the artist got a bigger cut and they had a better delivery system then I would think about buying music.
Also the price should be cheap like $2 for a whole album so it encourages you to collect a big legit library.

Also as others have said, Australia get charged more for the same digital product so they are their own worst enemy.

>>35765331 (OP)
I usually pirate music and movies because it's a better deal, even excluding the money part.

I mean most digital downloads are riddled with DRM and it just not a portable as a pirated copy, why would I spend money on a more limited copy? Not to mention most price are absurd. 20€ for a movie? No, just no.

Services like Spotify are also a better offer, but stuff like Netflix isn't even available in my country.

Software and games are a different story, software I don't buy because I don't need it, all I use are freeware or OSS, except for Windows itself which is given to me for free on Dreamspark. And games I usually get on Steam Sales, because full price for a digital copy is also absurd.

Because I'm poor

In all seriousness though I mostly pirate vidya and I end up buying it if I like it anyway

You're an idiot. It says at the bottom that those figures are made up, and not even by an impartial third party.

>>35766005
Do as this anon says.
Netflix is shit.

Enjoy waiting months for movies to update.
Enjoy The pain as a movie never makes it onto Netflix.
Just don't do it.

>>35765331 (OP)

i havent pirated in a long time

except from windows 8, paid 40 britbongs for it, did a clean install only to find out the key doesnt work for clean installs, uwotm8

all music is done from spotify
what little movies i watch are from netflix
all games are from steam

>>35765434
Lawfag here. You pose a very interesting scenario.

>>35765434
I thought your apps were tied to your Apple account, rather than your iPhone...

>>35765331 (OP)
And yet the movie and record industries' profits keep going up.

>>35765376
>Who the fuck buys software anyways?
Professionals, software developers etc

>I listen to tons of music. Do you expect me to pay thousands of dollars for it?
No, $5/month would be more than enough.

>>35765999
I know, people who make that argument are so retarded.
>potential sale=sale!

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That great feeling when the local drive-in treats you better than the local theater.

>$6.00 get you three movies
>Said movies are played a week ahead of it's release date in theaters.
>No loud as fuck annoying people.
>Great car controlled temperatures.
>Bring whatever food you want!

>>35765999
>>35766194
Just shut the fuck up, if downloading wasn't easy or impossible 99% of us would buy music and videos.

Just stfu.

>>35766058
This. Especially when a game that I liked ends up being 75% off during a sale. The music I like are mostly vidya game soundtracks. I doubt there would show up in an average CD shop or itunes.

>>35766218

these*

>>35766058
>>35766218
No you don't, you're not guying to buy a game which you pirated before and beat 100%.

Just stfu.

>>35766236
different guy but anyway
I did for portal and portal 2. even finished the co-op mode of portal 2 but then it went on sale for like $5 each for i bought it

>>35765331 (OP)
that's bullshit, the percentages are all wrong, speaking as someone who has talked to software publishers they basicaly don't give a fuck about piracy since statistically like 90% of the people who pirate something would not buy it if it wasn't free. The same concept applies to the others.

This shit is just propaganda.

>>35766236

I just did with Borderlands 2 during the last Steam sale.

>>35765331 (OP)
Well then, tell corps to stop selling a copy of a movie for $60 even though it costs them $0 to copy and to make the creaqting cost back they can do that easily with $10 price tag and then i will buy it

Calling every single piece of "pirated" content a "loss" is ridiculous as it assumes people would buy the product if not for piracy.

I don't pirate. I share. Everyone should watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNBMdDaYhZA

When did sharing become a crime? After DMCA law was passed. You cannot share your books your movies and your programs. Your freedom to share is restricted.

Oh no pretentious old men running the world are earning 10 billion instead of 20!

>>35765408
With 160gb, why wouldn't i hoard my music?
I can go a week without hearing the same song twice

>>35765331 (OP)
Because I don't have any money.

I will pirate shit as long as kanye west keeps buying golden toilets

>The Average teen ipod contains $800 of illegal ipod
For once in my life I thought I was above average, but I'm not a teen.

>>35766236
I do all the time, though. Same with movies and (to a lesser extent because all buying options are shit) music.

>>35766116
your mum poses a very interesting scenario

>not buying music on vinyl then pirating it for a digital copy

>The average teen ipod contains over $800 of illegal music
I'm going to assume that this is counting them as individual sales, which I believe are 79 cents each on iTunes, where they probably calculated the price.

>Just over 1000 songs
How can people live like this.

>>35766343
>Paying for low quality audio

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>>35766351
>$15,637.26

yeah i would never be able to pay for that.

software is too expensive
music is too expensive
movies are too expensive
yup

So if I listen to music on Youtube I'm not pirating? But I'm listening to it without paying for it? And if the file is stored somewhere in my browser cache and I just keep that file, am I pirating? Or does the way Youtube work mean everyone who has ever watched Gangnam Style a pirate?
>inb4 yes and psy is the richest man on earth after lawsuits

How many songs do you fags have?

>>35765921
>>35765942
>not wanting natural women

>>35766405
>inb4 adblock users are the scum of the earth

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>>35765331 (OP)

>For a new album going for $16 the artist gets $1.60

Niggers that's the publisher's fault.

>>35766432
Why would you want one of those when you could have a qtpi trap bf?

Can't have either master race

If music/film/software is so unprofitable, how come there are more musicians/filmmakers/programmers than ever before?

>>35766394
>average 6.6mb
stay pleb

>>35766452
You don't understand. That image thinks that number is a GOOD thing.

>>35766405
Yes in Google's eyes.
That was money they could have scammed out of you in their music store.

>>35766217
>99% of us would buy music and videos.
and macs. Dont forget about iMacs.
>>>/b/ ----->

>>35766470
Because this is all a ploy to make corporation look weak and needy.

>>35766217
I already buy music and films. I would probably buy less if I couldn't pirate them first.

>>35766217
I'd probably just stream music and browse /g/ all the time.

>>35766440
>not whitelisting sites you like using to support them

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>>35766415

What's a good usenet provider?

>>35765331 (OP)
i purchase almost all my games on steam because its easy, convenient and the price is right.
The only thing keeping me from buying music and movies is basically the price and the drm. I mean, I buy an album off itunes today, what the fuck happens to itunes tomorrow? Do I still get to keep my album?
From other failed industries in this market. It seems like I do not. So, fuck'em.
Besides, i do not approve of the manner in which they treat their musicians and actors or anything they really do. I do, however, buy mlp stuff since they seem to treat their employees well and lax on copyright

>>35766405
>Or does the way Youtube work mean everyone who has ever watched Gangnam Style a pirate?

The video is hosted on his channel.

>>35766522

No it doesn't. That picture is saying "If you didn't pirate so much artists would make more per album" which just isn't true in any way shape or form.

>>35766209
Im 21 and own a $8000 car but no license
you now convinced me to get it
thanks

Why would I want to pay for proprietary software?
Why would I want proprietary software on my system in the first place?

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>>35766415
Not much.

>>35765753
When companies provide software free for personal use only, corporations use it for free and don't give a shit. Doing the same with Photoshop would make Adobe's sales plummet.

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>>35766217
I'd stream it and make copies of whatever my friend buys.
You know, like what people use to do before the mp3 file format/mp3 player became a big thing.

>>35766582
I interpreted to mean "because artists make this much per album you're hurting them directly."

>>35765331 (OP)
I bet they believe that if the teenager did not pirate the music they would have it.

>>35766576
Well. all music on iTunes is DRM-free, so you do get to keep your albums. You can move them anywhere.

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>>35766621
>friend