>tfw we all knew it was shilling on /g/ to try and push the sale of a god-awfully overpriced piece of shit

any chance of a firesale?

It's a shame, because the Surface Pro is actually pretty nice, but the battery life kills it. What they need to do is:
- Haswell Surface Pro with a high PPI display at $999 or lower with one of the tablet oriented i5/i7 CPUs and an IGZO display, 20 hours of battery life would be actually pretty realistic if they did that
- Bay Trail Surface Mini that's 7.5" 4:3 at $299 or lower

>Surface RT died alone and miserable like we all knew it would
>WP will do the same and it's going to take Nokia with it
Fuck you, Microsoft.

>>35657869
>tfw got two Touchpads (gave one to my dad) and never use it

>>35657869
They supposedly sell the RT for $110 with the keyboard and the Pro for $399 at Microsoft conferences.

>>35657869
Be realistic, they have two options
>sale the product at far below retail expectation to make at least some of the money back and make a large market coverage
or
>recycle them for <1/20th they wanted to get

Which do you think they'll do?

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bill gates left a money in charge so when he failed he would come back as the hero
just kidding he is not coming back
unless the company really starts to fail

>>35657917
Pro != RT
This also includes the revenue of the Pro.

>>35657934
Shit, sorry. Not sure what the fuck I was doing there.

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http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/microsoft-is-killing-surface-with-breakdancing-and-its-going-to-hurt-xbox-o

Still buying one the moment I see one with a screen that isn't shit.

>>35657849 (OP)
>they have to kill themselves to liberate us from NSA.

>>35658434
9.5/10 article

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I remember when

>Have you bought your ipad killer yet /g/?

Were weekly threads on here. When even the viral marketing arm of microsoft stops promoting a product you know for a fact that it's dead.

>>35659324
>weekly
more like daily

>>35659393
I originally wrote daily but it seemed a bit much, and looking at the picture I posted it seemed to be every 2 days at most.

Now windows phone thread spam, that's been posted on a daily basis for almost over a year here and is not only still very much fervently hated by all but still has terrible sales as well.

>>35658434
Honestly, this thing works best for people who actually need to do work on it, rather than your average consumer who doesn't want to spend $1000 to watch Netflix.

>>35658434
>MS sells to people to get shit done
>casuals buy mac's to be cool and trendy
>MS tries to sell to cool and trendy
>wont sell because people dont know features

MS is to be suffering

Microsoft has so much stock they are handing out Surface to employees. Even interns get free 128GB Surface Pro this year.

>>35659567
I wish they did hand out surface pros.

>>35659590
WHOOPS

>>35659605
You guys have a sticky, stick to it

>>35659567
Fuck, really? Maybe I should apply.

>buying/using a tablet/laptop
>not using a desktop
>2013

>>35659645
>being a basement/cellar dwellar who never needs a mobile platform

>>35659645
>not leaving your chair
>2013

>>35659633
>2013 company meeting
>Ballmer comes on stage
>ARE YOU EXCITED ABOUT THE SURFACE 2?!?!??!?!
>Sheep employees all cheer for something that costs the company 2 billion dollars.

>>35659665
>>35659668

>moving from one chair to another

WHY

Sit your attention-deficit ass down and stay put.

>>35659692
>steve balmer comes on stage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc

>>35659703
>not using your tablet or laptop while laying down
>not using it on the couch
>not going to get coffee and showing off your thinkpad or tablet in public
>not using it in the park

>>35659722 in the park
in the sun? on a glossy screen?

yeah, good luck with that.

>>35659746
>not being in the shade nearby a coffeeshop to steal wifi

>>35657849 (OP)
Is it bad that I want one of these due to product placement in all of my favorite TV shows?

Could I get one and install android on it?

>>35659665
There was a study done on those netbooks a year or so after they became popular that showed that 65% of the people who used them never took them outside their house.

I'm sure the same applies to tablets. When is it necessary to have a mobile computing device with you? Almost never, considering that smartphones now work just as well and are more portable.

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>>35659808

>>35659817
well as a student I could bring it a lot of places, not that I would prefer it over a laptop, but I can see workers/NEETS just leaving them on the couch

>>35659817

When are smartphones necessary? Almost never.

>>35659808
On the pro, not the RT

Waiting for the firesale ^^

>>35659817

I need a tablet for reading books/manga and web browsing when my laptop is low on battery.

I personally don't see a difference between switching to "metro" and switching to apple. It's practically as jarring a change anyways, and iOS has been improving for many many years now, wheras winrt is very lacking.

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>>35659793
Even in the latest Ghost in the shell series.

Totally ruined the immersion, seeing a surface ad 20 seconds in. /g/ was right, the show was shit compared to the first season. I should have listened. Won't be watching the second episode.

>>35659870
Nexus 7 2013 is better than the RT in every conceivable way. Or wait for the iPad Mini Retina like I am.

>>35659906
tell me that isn't a shop

what the fuck

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>>35659926
It gets worse. And I wasn't kidding about it being 20 seconds in either.

>>35659939
holyfuck, this is horrible.
fucking microsoft ruined the whole thing.

>>35659939
Holy fuck, how did I not know about this.

>>35659915
Well, there's Office and maybe the battery life.

>>35659939
that looks pretty sexy

>>35659954
>>35659970
>>35659926
>>35659906

Wait, what? I watched it, knowing full well about the Surface being in it, and I didn't notice it as much as I thought I would. I even watched that minute long Surface commercial before hand so I knew what I was looking for.

When you're showing 2 screenshots of a 50 minute anime you're not exactly showing people what it's really like to watch.

>>35659939
At least Microsoft has godly taste in its anime choice. Will still watch/10

I'd buy a Surface RT if I could install Linux on it. The hardware looks nice.

>>35660015
I almost couldn't believe it when I saw it less than 20 seconds in. I was so hyped to have a new season that focused on the origins of the main character, only to be ruined less than 30 seconds in by advertising that was out of place and distracting.

I'll admit that the second screenshot was more well done form of product placement and if it were the only instance of it in the show I wouldn't have made screenshots or complained about it.

>>35660042
Get ready to be disappointed. It's nothing like the first season of SAC. Instead it's a pretty average anime that even /a/ admits is lackluster. When the show came out almost all the threads on /a/ were negative about it, now they're non existent.

>>35659906
>>35659939
I was reluctant about buying a surface pro but now I absolutely have to.

>>35660109
/a/ hates everything but cute girl cartoons

bought one last week. went in with good attitude, going to give it a fair run. By day two could not take the insanity of Windows 8. installed osx 10.8. works good.

hardware 8/10
softwsre 3/10

msft made a bunch of retarded choices in the RT. locking down the bootloader, making it $500 without a keyboard (THE ONE THING THEY ADVERTISE, THEY DONT INCLUDE), making it more expensive than an ipad, and the stupidest marketing excuses ("well you get office, so that's like $120 cheaper than an ipad, and it's 32GB which is another $100 cheaper!").

Should have priced it $380 with keyboard.

FIRE SALE WHEN

I'd buy a Pro for maybe $300-$400. I could finally watch my 10bit animu on a tablet. Shame about the battery life, though.

>>35660099
What would be the point? There's no driver support and never will be either.

The hardware is fine, even good. The issue is the company that makes it and the terrible software they include with it.

>>35660134
You can't even install OSX on a Surface. Stop lying.

>>35660154
There would be driver support if it was possible to install Linux.

>>35660109
>only to be ruined less than 30 seconds in by advertising that was out of place and distracting.

Did you not know about it going in? Like I said, there was a fucking minute long commercial for the Surface from the studio and everything.

Personally I'm not so petty as to let something like that ruin a show for me.

Anyways, overall the episode was alright. They didn't really touch on anything philosophical but I guess if this is an origin story I shouldn't expect too much of that. We'll see how it goes.

>>35660134
>installing OSX on a surface pro

uwmot8

>>35660175
You can on the Pro. He obviously said Windows 8.

>>35660134
>software 3/10
Apparently the entire software library of w8 is 3/10. Nice attempt retarded pretender.

>>35659906
>Ghost in the Shill

>>35660193
>muh drivers!

>>35660109
I looked it up and only one episode aired. It's too early to tell how good it is, after all there were weak eps in SAC and 2nd gig. The fact that /a/ hates it also gives me hope.

>>35660270

/a/ has amazing taste.

>>35660175
howto install osx on surface pro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pje-RZV1fBE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

this worked perfectly for me

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>>35660310
>/a/ has amazing taste.

>>35660193
You still can't.
Does OSX even have touch screen drivers?

>>35660129
Is that why there are daily legend of galactic hero threads on there?

Their taste in anime may be shit generally but they know quality when they see it. And considering the previous high production values and quality of writing/art direction of previous GITS shows and movies Arise falls short by quite a bit.

>>35660190
I had no idea that anything surface related was going to be in the show watching it, I purposefully avoided any news of the show that might ruin any of it. Imagine seeing an ad for a real product you can buy today being shown in it 20 seconds in, in what is supposed to be Tokyo in the year 2027 or such. As I said it ruined the immersion for me, as much as I tried to ignore it.

>>35660328
>Implying that'd be functional.
Pics of your surface using OSX or you're still lying.

>>35660310
/a/ hated/raged about Solid State Society which had an amazing story and great animation

>>35660336
You can still install it. No idea about the drivers but you can make the touchscreen work on ThinkPad tablets for example.

>>35660349
>being this autistic

>>35660328
Since I don't want to sit through a 30 minute video can you tell me what does and does not work?

Does this even 100% compatibility with the pen (all sensitivity levels) and shit like that? That's what I'm most skeptical of.

OSX isn't a touchscreen OS though... so why would you want it?

The Pro was a pretty quality device. The Biggest complaints were battery life and using it on your lap. Both of which can be fixed with Haswell and the battery accessories the engineers talked about in the interview they gave. I'm eagerly awaiting to see what they do because i need a new laptop and digitizer for my drawing would be great.

>>35660381
I'll take that as a compliment, considering that I'm complaining about product placement ruining the fictional setting of Tokyo in the year 2027.

To those that consider this a tiny almost inconsequential detail that only autists would fret over, I pity them. Maybe they should go back to watching the big bang theory.

>>35659472
You cannot do actual work on a fucking tablet please die in a fire.

This is proven fact eat a dick.

>>35660380
Well, I guess I was wrong about it being possible. Lets see if I was wrong about him lying. >35660374

>>35660453
Calm down sperg. You shouldn't let things not relevant to the story effect your perception of the story.

osx on surface pro

not working
touch
wifi and bluetooth
brightness control

working
pen 100%
sleep
qt/ci
sd sard
audio and rocker
battery indicator

>>35660456
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/06/16/the-surface-pro-at-work-a-full-pc-replacement/

>>35660456
The reason the surface pro isn't successful is because it does work well and people interested in tablets have this preconception that they are meant for entertainment.

>>35660501
>effect

>>35660456
>couldn't even read the post I was quoting

>>35660519
It was too expensive and it had shitty battery life compared to other ultrabooks. It was made like it was a surface RT, and the pen didn't work with photoshop at the beginning.

I'm not sure who's ego it was that make all those bad decisions and thought it was a good idea, but I sure as fuck hope they are fired from the company.

>>35657849 (OP)

I'm surprised no one talks about how god awful those keyboards are. They remind me of those plastic/flexible keyboards that roll out and have the weirdest feel to them.

>>35660531
You won't get very far in life being this much of a sperg.

>surface rt completely flopped
This pleases me. MS can shove its forced secure boot up to its ass

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>>35660564

>>35660564
Is this how you justify your mediocrity?

>>35660501
The setting is just as important moron. It's the main reason why GITS is so popular, to see what they imagine the future to look like. The sociological, political, geopolitical and human aspects of life being changed by technology is the whole point of the series.

Morals of the story and thread summation:

1. There should never have been another ghost in the shell series made after solid state society came out and capped the story.

2. The surface is a fucking piece of shit and always will be.

3. The windows phone is a fucking piece of shit and always will be

4. Microsoft cannot modernize, something we knew since 7 came out at which point it was obvious that was the last even halfway decent thing (technically the last decent thing being windows xp).

5. Steve ballmer is an enormous cokehead. But anyone who works around him know he does coke in his office as well as basically, well everywhere. He likes cocaine. I guess.

Point being fuck that fat piece of shit I prefer stallman everyday if I have to choose. At least one doesn't do cocaine.


6. Microjew is dying and hopefully windows "9" which is supposedly based on the xbox OS will kill it for good. Since sadly windows 8 failed in this task.


7. Proprietary linux based distros made by google and amazon will shortly become the new normal.

8. Everyone who is not fucking stupid will use actual linux and FOSS, the community of which is rapidly modernizing and vastly improving with each release. Case and point ubuntu 13.04 is actually not shit (for the layman user anyway).


9. Microsoft is standing in the way of innovation at this point

10. Historically speaking those who stand in the way are run down and destroyed.

Its a matter of time.

Its just always nice to smell the end coming.

>>35660599
No shit. And now Surface is smeared all over a perfectly good show when it's obvious that in 25 years or so it's going to be an ancient, dead brand.

Not that anyone would bother with tablets or Windows when you have direct neural interfaces that write the UI directly into your visual processing centers.

>>35660631
100% this.

>>35660631
Like 1/3rd of this happened in the thread

>>35660631
>7. Proprietary linux based distros made by google and amazon will shortly become the new normal.
That's optimistic.

>>35657885
>Surface Pro
>battery life kills it
PROTIP : There is a reason why Apple decided to use ARM+iOS on iPad instead of x86+OSX. I've been saying this for YEARS now, ever since the goddamn vaporware HP Slate.

If there was anything that would kill a full blown windows tablet it would by x86 and muh power consumption

>>35657924
Knowing the microsoft kin, they'd do the second

>>35659567
Bull fucking shit. Prove that shit.

>>35660631
I think you're a bit optimistic on the death of microsoft, but overall I agree with everything in your post.

Sage because your post has ended this thread on a high note.

>>35660631

Microsoft isn't dying until a satisfying replacement to MS Office is on Linux.

>>35660631
But xp is shit in comparison to seven.

>>35660685
Chrome OS is linux based. No not just unix, literally linux based.

Amazon OS is as well, but most people have not gotten lucky like me and had a chance to see it. Yes such a thing does exist, no I don't fucking know when they plan on mass producing it. Amazon is running alot of experiments in house right now trying to determine the best way to modernize and move their business to the next level. Ask any recent software engineering graduate if this is true or not most will confirm they had some offer or interaction with amazon scouters because they are trying to snip up all the good engineers and programmers/designers they can find for their various plans.

No its not optimistic its the sad truth because anyone who thinks that this will LESSEN botnet information gathering tendency rather than grow them exponentially is sadly mistaken. Microjew is bad but this will be an entirely new level of bad.


Nonethless I have Microsoft because of how idiotic they became. So they get what they deserve.

>>35660741
>Microsoft isn't dying until a satisfying replacement to MS Office is on Linux.
they're coasting for the next ten years till they get their act together

>>35660741


1. Zorin
2. Office suites besides fucking libre exist
3. Mint
4. Others. There are quite a few very simple mods or versions of mainstream distros like redhat, debian, ect that look and run nearly exactly like windows, except without all the bullshit and without the overhead costs.

>>35660725
PROTIP: The Haswell Surface Pro could get a better battery life than the MBA since it has a smaller display and the battery has almost the same capacity. Not to mention they could put a tablet oriented CPU in there. Atom CPUs have a low power consumption.

So you anons are telling me that buying a Surface RT at the new low price would be a bad idea?

>>35660741
Considering how popular online services are how long do you think that's going to take, once the average user realizes that his work will be saved in "the cloud" and he'll never lose a single document ever again and can share it as easily as giving out a link for a website?

The only thing microsoft has going for it is that its .doc formats are still considered mandatory at many levels of governments worldwide and in multinational companies. Switching to a new format still isn't worth the hassle to them due to all the paperwork it would cause. Eventually that won't be the case and then they'll be shit out of luck. They have less than 10 years at best when it comes to office productivity software.

I hope the Samsung ATIV Q does well, it looks too good to passup.

>>35660924
Why not a Windows 8 tablet for the same price/cheaper?

>>35660924
It's a great device at $350, especially with Windows Blue, which made everything really zippy. It's still the same issue with the terrible app ecosystem that Microsoft drags its feet on.

>>35660973
It's 13.3" and will be probably pretty expensive though ($1500+).

>>35660978
But I need a keyboard to actually be productive on it anon. And that's really the only reason I would want it anyway. There are no Windows 8 tablets that are cheaper, at least none worth owning from what I have read.

>>35660983
Well anon, what if I just need it for productivity. Word processing, note taking, and web browsing all for college use.