14 hour days? How does that work out? with EIGHT hours of sleep you have 16 hours of awake time.

Another IT fag here.

Try drinking coffee.

It helps.

>>33929117
Fuck coffee. Orange juice works better.

I get 6.5 hours sleep every night, stop being a pussy.

>>33929126
>>33929126

>using glucose or a weak stimulant


Try meth OP

>>33929068
24 hours
17.5 hours after sleep (6.5)
3.5 hours after working (14)
1.0 hours after feeding, shitting, showering, getting to work, ect (2.5)
1.0 Pool for groceries, shopping, ect

>>33929117
I do. Got one of those disk systems

>>33929126
sugar is bad. Causes crashes

>>33929160
Sleep isn't really the problem here.

>>33929179
have you tried programming on meth? Did it in uni. My project partners wanted to kill me. Fucking variable names that made no sense and just weird unreadable shit.

I work full-time at an IT-monkey job (cube-to-cube moves, re-imaging, installing software remotely etc.), and then go to night-school after to learn programming, so maybe I am in a similar boat to you OP.

Sometimes I get stressed by my busy routine. Than suddenly I will have a weekend or a day off, and I find that my personal life / off-time is so boring and dull that I wish I was at school or work.

>>33929179
Technically, Caffeine isn't a stimulant, it just inhibits GABA.

It's like saying taking the brakes off a car makes it faster.

>>33929223
Sugary orange juice? What kind of childhood did you have? Drink orange juice for the vitamin C, not the sugar.

Find a trap gf and buy a small ranch and live completely on your own.

>>33929252
>It's like saying taking the brakes off a car makes it faster.
but.. it does..?

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>>33929223
>have you tried programming on meth? Did it in uni. My project partners wanted to kill me. Fucking variable names that made no sense and just weird unreadable shit.

This explains so much.

>>33929324
if you step on the gas or are going downhill it does

>>33929223
>Fucking variable names that made no sense and just weird unreadable shit
Sounds like standard undergrad code.

>>33929223
>Fucking variable names that made no sense and just weird unreadable shit.
sounds like the code I used to write when I was a lil' kid

>>33929223
>Fucking variable names that made no sense and just weird unreadable shit.
You were taking too much, then.
>>33929031 (OP)
Caffeine, B vitamin complex, and L-theanine. Don't leave out the theanine. Caffeine is shit without it.

>>33929251
I am tempted to try this just incase it is true

>>33929326
What does it explain? Top of my class when I got my Bachelors. I chose the wrong company to work for after uni and they made it their person mission to destroy me. With no references I need something

>>33929359
I wish it was just existed in undergrad

>>33929389
prob more inexperience. Writing this other shit down. Thanks

>>33929251
>I find that my personal life / off-time is so boring and dull that I wish I was at school or work.

I know this feeling, I started volunteering at weekends because of this.

>>33929389
Please explain how you assume these substances. Regular coffee, pills and tea?

>>33929416
If you have some money and wish to pursue the chemical route, I recommend looking into nootropics. My favorite is Piracetam (may need choline along with). Works best when you're low on sleep. Used in a couple classes when my eyelids started to droop and really felt the difference.

>>33929525
OP will deliver:
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11554035
http://www.gnc.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2166421

I can see properly. So I am getting to work.

>>33929583
Will look into that.

>>33929525
Caffeine because of its obvious, well known stimulant properties. B vitamins because I find that they help keep me from burning out when I'm using caffeine on a frequent basis. I guess that's anecdotal. L-theanine, however, is very well documented as synergizing incredibly well with caffeine. I'll throw sources at you if you really need them, but seriously, just go search PubMed. The studies are everywhere.
>>33929583
This doesn't seem to me like a man in search of subtle cognitive benefits. Nootropics like piracetam will likely be entirely disappointing for him. If anything, he should be trying modafinil, which I actually should have mentioned before.

>>33929617
Thanks.

>>33929643
Yeah I already looked into that but my question was in what form do you take these substances, especially the L-theanine.

>>33929617
For the B complex:
www.amazon.com/dp/B0016003Z0/
You don't necessarily need to get this one, but it's cheap and a good example. Most companies tend to use cheaper forms of vitamins (yes, there are difference chemical forms for the same vitamin) which are less bioavailable. A particularly common example of this is the use of dirt cheap cyanocobalamin for B12 when your body can barely use it, and it's inferior in every way to methylcobalamin B12. Ideally, you'd get a complex that used methylcobalamin for B12 and pyridoxal 5'-phosphate for B6.

>>33929713
Ah, so you meant how I consume them. Personally, I buy L-theanine and caffeine as bulk powders, weigh them out, and put them into empty capsules at the doses I want. It takes a little bit more money starting out, if you don't already have the scale, but it makes it WAY cheaper over time. Bulk supplement powders can be had for pennies a day. The B vitamin complex I just buy online. Not worth making myself.

>>33929643
Modafinil (and it's more available sibling Adrafinil) are also excellent drugs for staying awake. I recommended piracetam because the cognitive benefits seem to be what helped me stay awake. Most *racetams claim to boost "alertness" which seems to be relevant for OP. Lots of people are disappointed by nootropics when they find out they aren't a family of unscheduled amphetamines, but rather a quite mild boost. As long as that's kept in mind they're a valid avenue for the tired and foggy minded, albeit somewhat of a luxury product.

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>>33929835
>modafinil
>mild

Fuck no, it's brain hax

>>33929789
I just buy caffeine pills if I wanted caffeine, £1 for 30x50mg

>>33929893
I was referring to the *racetam class (among others) as milder. *afinils are usually overkill for my needs.

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It's like coffee but isn't bad for you

>>33929964
I get caffeine for around $13 for 400g. That comes out to around 5 cents for thirty 50mg doses.

>>33930026
there is no evidence that coffee is bad for you aside from the effects of caffene, which still lack any long term harm other than headaches.

>>33930058
I'm pretty heavily addicted to caffeine and there's no way I'd use enough of it for that difference to be meaningful