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Hi. I was here last night on a lonely Fathers day. I tried to share some info about some stuff that was obviously way to advanced for this crowd. Despite being shat all over.. and shitting all over you all... I'm back.

Every time I come to this site I hear kids talking about wanting to do shit in IT.. especially security... especially pen testing. Everyone wants to be a pen tester.

Well, faggots, here's your chance, assholes. Ask an IT security professional anything. Yes, I've been on pen tests.
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>>34652974 (OP)
Does your breath smell like cum?
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How's it feel to be alone on Father's Day?
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>>34652974 (OP)
>and shitting all over you all
I though professionals knew proper english


Also, if you think that you "shat" on anyone here, you are trolling yourself.
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>>34652987

Actually, quite nice. I made a (frozen) pizza.
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How do you like it?

and more importantly,

Hows the pay?
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What hardware firewall does the company(s) you work for use?
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which is your favorite detergent?
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>>34653049
Pay is generally good. The IT security market is generally good - given you're qualified, etc.

I don't actually do pen testing. So I can't comment on how I like it. What I actually do is more like opposite of pen testing. I think your happiness level is going to depend on your personality type and the actual specifics where you'd end up working. If you're asking about pen testing, you should probably know that it's in no way an entry level role. If you break into IT, you're looking at least 5 years in other roles (including sysadmin and information assurance roles like incident response - that's what I do) before anyone would even think about letting you "test" anything.
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>>34653090
His face and/or body odor(s).
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>>34653078

The security architecture we deploy isn't as simple as some "drop in" equipment. We do use CISCO filtering routers... in addition to other measures. We deploy stateful proxy firewalls at our perimeter. Any sensitive data is at least 5 layers in/deep from any systems accessible from the outside, DMZ, etc... and believe it not, we deploy some pretty fucking good honeypots in between.

So to answer your question... CISCO.


I would really like to answer some technical questions. if anyone has any.
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>>34653131
I didn't really mean pen testing, I wanted to kind of know more about sysadmin and some of the other roles.

So besides administrating systems, what exactly does a sysadmin do?
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Dad, is that you?
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>>34653216

There are several distinct "types" of administration. As far as system administration day to day stuff, it's going to vary widely depending on your environment.

The general premise is still the same no matter what "type" or whatever the environment. Administrators make sure the systems they're responsible for are running the way they should. Think of yourself as the administrator of your own domain, your home network/computers.
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>>34653281
What kind of hardware do you work with?

I'm sure that it varies according to each environment, but I would just like a general idea of the kind of stuff you've worked with.
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>>34652974 (OP)
Not you again. Kill yourself. You don't know shit.
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>>34653368

My job involves working directly with our SOC team.

The primary "thing" I work with as an incident handler is the IDS.
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>Ask an IT security professional anything
Every single one of these I've met have been criminally ignorant imbeciles with a degree in it.
So what college did you go to to get your non knowledge and sense of superiority?
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I wonder if OP even knows what ICMP types you should allow.
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>>34653481

Why don't you pick your negative attitude up off the floor and engage in a constructive interaction..I was really hoping, by some miracle of god, people here would want to ask questions which require technical expertise.

>>34653520
I wonder if any kids on 4chan could ask a question which couldn't be resolved by executing a simple google query.

I wonder why you think that's a valid question? Some people don't allow ICMP at all. ICMP has a LOT of legitimate uses, despite being abused by assholes..
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>>34653562
>ICMP has a LOT of legitimate uses, despite being abused by assholes..
No shit. I like how you can't tell me which types you should allow.
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>>34653585
he'll probably give a cut & paste answer from stackexchange
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>>34653585
>I like how you can't tell me which types you should allow.

Back in this place called the real world, context matters. There is no one answer to your question, it depends on what you're trying to do. There is no rule that says you have to allow ICMP at all. or vice versa.
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>>34653621

Hey 12-16 year old white male from the Anglosphere with barely a high school education, erm I mean smart ass.. do you think you could come up with a relevant question that couldn't be resolved with a google search? I doubt it.
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>>34653638
Yeah, you don't know shit. Can you even write your own iptables rules?
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Jung xvaq bs cbea qb lbh znfgheongr gb?
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>>34653678
no daddy. teach us your ways.

it might help if you even knew what the fuck you were trying to ask and not just cherry picking questions from some random source to seem like a smart-ass.

do you have any idea what ICMP is or what it's used for? Please, tell us Grand Master Wizard, what types of ICMP should EVERYONE IN THE WORLD always allow?
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>>34653720
OP is too incompetent to answer a simple question. I bet you're him.
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>>34652974 (OP)
What did you talk about last time.
Because /g/ is mostly the tech savvy kids from /b/ nowadays, and they don't feel comfortable outside of battlestation threads.
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How do you feel knowing that even if you throw and infinite amount of money and equipment on technical solutions, it will be trumped by social engineering.
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>>34653758

It seems you made a wrong turn somewhere between the 10th desktop thread and the Windows vs Mac thread, back the other way.

It's hilarious what kind of arrogance you exude yet the best question you can come up with is something about basic TCP/IP... even more hilarious is how you seem to think there is some rule set in stone about what types of ICMP every single system in the world should or shouldn't allow.
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>>34653209
>layers
>imbliging any of this matters when the "ceo" emails attachments willy nilly and sometimes out of the intranet.


yfw you don't know muh zero days
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>>34653638
>There is no rule that says you have to allow ICMP at all.
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1191
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>>34653776

I was trying to teach some kids the basics of format string vulns.. I was using a few hands on examples or demos, if you will...(mis)using the printf function.

I got through the basic example..where we actually read from the stack at runtime. then I was trying to show them how to actually modify it.. change stuff... the next example I was gonna demo how to write 5 or larger (or 9 or larger) anywhere in memory to either 32bit or 64bit respectively... I had in my mind that I might be able to go all the way to relating format strings to buffer overflows but yea.. we couldn't even get past the basic example.

Most people said it was "useless" info. I laughed. It's all archived on IG.
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>>34653907
>I was trying to teach some kids
>implying you're not underage yourself
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>>34653958

It would be less pathetic if I was. I wish I was to be honest.

I am just an expert at wasting time in horrible ways. Hence why I'm here.
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>>34653980
You should spend your time actually learning how to use a computer.
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>>34653958
That's /g/ for you, the only people who know very much are in the DPTs, networking threads are cool too.

I've come across overflows when using printf() and scanf()
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>>34654054

I was hoping to inspire an army of pimple faced 14 year old boys to run around and type "%x" 's into every .exe they could get their hands on. Instead, they couldn't even figure out what I was talking about because they're to busy thinking they are god and too good for everything.
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>>34654124
teach me something. anything.

I'm actually curious.
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>>34654124
name all your MMORPG characters %2%
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Hey OP, what's the best way I can secure my network against ARP poisoning? Thanks for any help.
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>>34654150

I'm very willing to share knowledge. Knowledge that might have cost me too much money to acquire, but you'd pretty much have to ask something.
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>>34654216
static ip tables i think.

>>34654250
but idk what to ask mayne.
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How much of the security community is involved with grey hat hacking and related research.


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