>>34396081 (OP)
>implying we use google
>implying you're from google

>Facebook: "We do not provide any government organization with direct access to Facebook servers. When Facebook is asked for data or information about specific individuals, we carefully scrutinize any such request for compliance with all applicable laws, and provide information only to the extent required by law."[20]
>Google: "Google cares deeply about the security of our users' data. We disclose user data to government in accordance with the law, and we review all such requests carefully. From time to time, people allege that we have created a government ‘back door' into our systems, but Google does not have a backdoor for the government to access private user data."[20]
>Apple: "We have never heard of PRISM. We do not provide any government agency with direct access to our servers, and any government agency requesting customer data must get a court order."[21]
>Microsoft: "We provide customer data only when we receive a legally binding order or subpoena to do so, and never on a voluntary basis. In addition we only ever comply with orders for requests about specific accounts or identifiers. If the government has a broader voluntary national security program to gather customer data we don't participate in it."[20]
>Yahoo!: "Yahoo! takes users' privacy very seriously. We do not provide the government with direct access to our servers, systems, or network."[20]
>Dropbox: "We've seen reports that Dropbox might be asked to participate in a government program called PRISM. We are not part of any such program and remain committed to protecting our users' privacy."[20]

its a lie guys we r good we swear!!1

Who cares? If you don't have anything to hide, you shouldn't be against PRISM. It'll only make the internet more secure.

>>34396081 (OP)
What did you expect, a fucking confession?

>>34396187
All those pre-written NSA press releases

>Microsoft – which is currently running an advertising campaign with the slogan "Your privacy is our priority" – was the first, with collection beginning in December 2007.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

>>34396588
>>34396661
Funny how apple joined last, only after Jobs had died. I bet he was the only one resisting the NSA until the day he died.

Jobs is the new Stallman.

ATTENTION:

The contents of this post have been removed and are now subject to terrorist investigation. The content within this post met multiple criteria in PRISM guidelines for suspicious activity that could potentially result in terrorist activity.

http://www.nsa.gov/

People really didnt know this shit was going on? I thought it was common knowledge.

>>34396748
NINE ELEVEN WAS AN INSIDE JOB

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>>34396681
>>34396588
Microsoft was in bed with the NSA much earlier than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY

>MUH GAMONES

>>34396748
It was common suspicion, not common knowledge.
If I had a penny for every time a Microshill defended proprietary software and centralized communication because "nobody proved a problem", I'd be richer than Bill G.

[This post was flagged by PRISM and will be securely detained until administrators of this service have decided upon the proceedings of this data]

[Please contact a service administrator for clarification]

>>34396769
Only pedos hiding their cp use linux

>>34396748

it was common knowledge for those who can think as opposed to just repeating something they heard that will make them sound smart.

>First, we have not joined any program that would give the U.S. government—or any other government—direct access to our servers.

Well, these sorts of things can be handled by private companies which report to the government. So if that's happening he's not lying, just being sneaky.

>Second, we provide user data to governments only in accordance with the law.

So, no mention that only Google and the end user is the only one with access to the data. Of course after saying this I feel relatively stupid, because Google's entire business model revolves around selling data and making it available for third parties.

>>34396828
>Google's entire business model revolves around selling data and making it available for third parties.

Bingo

>2013 and people still thinking companies have anything other than profits in mind

oh you

>>34396588
>Join PRISM
>"Your privacy is our priority"
It's quite true actually.

>>34396769
>using a PC for anything other then games
Sure is unemployed IT nerds in here. Stay mad Linux virgins while I'm playing World of Warcraft with my five girlfriends and the NSA.

>>34396081 (OP)
>Second, we provide user data to governments only in accordance with the law.
Stupid line. The government is full of shitty laws that crap all over the bill of rights. I'm sure there's some law already on the books that lets the government get data whenever they want because "muh national security."

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>>34396864

I ROFLD 8/10

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When did this PRISM shit start coming out?

How are we sure its not tinfoil hats spreading fud?

So we're hearing an admission out of the NSA, yet surprisingly not one of these companies has had a disgruntled employee leak this for 6 years.
It's going to be interesting to hear how this was set up.

>>34396889

thuh guvernmenth uh has already uh admittited it uh

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>>34396864
>wow
>girlfirends

pick one..or none

Has anyone actually got the fucking powerpoint? The language in the article seems to suggest that it was primarily ISPs who were providing explicit consent.

>>34396081 (OP)
I actually believe this whole thing.

>>34396929
powerpoint? i think that one was fake. there's a bunch of actual ducments out there

>>34396929
powerpointwithallnsasecretsdonotsteal.ppt

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22813893

British government spying on its own citizens using the american PRISM intell

>>34396929
Google in particular uses https everywhere, ISPs wouldn't be able to do this.

>>34396876
>Reuters
>2005
>Clearly fake

tl;dr You're fucked and we pretend to care.

>>34396996
they could, they're litterally the man in the middle

>>34396996
Where's the loophole in their language then? I doubt they'd take the risk of lying outright.

>>34396876
I liked it when websites weren't mutilated so that they can be more easily viewed on tablets by people who can't be assed to do something other than browse the internet outside of their homes.

>>34397036
I hope they have a way to crack 128-bit encryption then. Or else being the "man in the middle" won't help them do jack shit.

>>34396804
I don't hide my cp. It's in /bin/ along with some other programs.

>>34397109
They could hijack your session quite easily...

>>34397117
This. Post your cp, /g/.

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 138464 Nov 18  2012 /bin/cp

>>34397128
>1969
>not understanding private/public key encryption

>>34396889
It is tinfoil hats. /pol/ has been taking it to every board

>>34397134

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 120960 Sep  5  2012 /bin/cp

Yours is newer than mine is, but mine is smaller. ^_^

>>34397041
you know the NSA could have put this out to test the publics reaction.
And then under the guise of
>we're going to pass this law to say the NSA can't do this sorta thing
>here's new acts saying exactly what they can do

at least that's what i would do if i were a government. It's a perfect situation to increase surveillance yet people think you're relaxing it

>>34396889
Even Obama, God Bless Him, admitted it.

Probably a blatant lie or a sneaky subversion. What else would they say? "Yea, you got us, we have an NSA backdoor"

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Land of the Free.*
God Bless.

* Nobody ever said anything about WATCHING citizens enjoying their freedom.

>>34397202
That's an interesting theory, although at the moment I think they are trying to cause as much information confusion as possible to buy time since this revelation was unexpected, although I do think they partially planned for something like this.

>>34397169
>2013
>not knowing 128bit isn't safe anymore

>>34397202
>conspiracy nuts finally proven right
>instead of celebration for being validated for once, they develop new, crazier theories

>>34396081 (OP)
What is damage limitation mr page?
Please can you give me my google glass so I can share my entire life with my friends

>>34397303
of course, if it is true and it is a real program then, they've got plans in place as to what to say, when to say it. Which news companies to give what wording to.

>>34397315
What makes my theory crazy exactly.

it happens a lot, anytime something happens that puts governments in a bad light, they say it won't ever happen again and bring out laws to make sure of it, but the new laws sacrifice certain things.

There's two options
1) They're bound to some NSL tier non-disclousure bullshit, and they lie about it
2) They actually don't know jack shit, and a bunch of sysadmins and database monkeys are shitting their pants right now because the NSA is in their network

>>34397184
>but mine is smaller
That's what (s)he said.

>>34397382
The NSA has been in all Wintendo boxes for many years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY

>>34397315
oh and btw, i wasn't one of the few who thought a system like this was already in place.
Which is why i think what i do now.

I like to believe that people are good, even people that work in agencies like the NSA. I imagine quite a lot of people would know about a program like PRISM and if it does exist I'd like to think that someone would have leaked it much earlier.

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>>34396769

>>34397475
Why is this guy still alive?

>>34397455
The problem is congress unknowingly authorized the NSA to do this back in 2008
and it's been confirmed by everyone, except the people who the NSA is getting real-time data from
I think you're misguided, no one is going to 'test the waters' this way. The system does not care what we think, it does not care if people live or die, it only wishes to grow.

>>34397400

This is just more proof that /g/ is nothing but /jp/ and /r9k/ shitposters who know nothing about computers.

>>34397508
I don't think it's as much test the waters as it is
if we tell people we're doing something really wrong, we can get away with it by admitting it was wrong, then do something that's only quite wrong.

>>34397530
Not really faggot, even Schiener said that's not the correct way to do what they claim they were doing. If it was what they said it was, they should've used key splitting.

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>>34396081 (OP)
>direct access to our servers
>>34396187
>direct access to Facebook servers.

How comes they use almost the exact same language?

Clearly they are taking their queues from the same source and are trying to let intelligent people know that the NSA has them by the balls.

By the way.

/* DIRECT ACCESS IS NOT INDIRECT ACCESS*/

>>34397592
eh because that's what they've been accused of?

>did you X
>no we did not X

>did you X
>no we did not X

>THEY BOTH SAID >NO WE DID NOT X
>MUH TINFOIL HAT

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>>34397117

>>34397620
They don't provide DIRECT access, they provide access through a third party (EA VPS/VPN/whatever)

>>34397579

Windows did not come with an encryption program until Vista. This key was found in Windows 2000. Therefore, this is a cryptographic key that could only potentially unlock Windows system files... at worst, they could use it to bypass your Windows password (you know, like how the dozens of freeware programs you can find through a single Google search for "windows password cracker" can do).

Get off my /g/.

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>>34397117
>>34397134
>>34397184

>2013
>not having /bin linked to /usr/bin/

It's like you live in the past on purpose.

>>34397169
>Send request to Google
>ISP redirects the traffic to some of their servers and poses as a proxy to Google
>HTTPS with the ISP's dummy server, HTTPS from the ISP's dummy server to Google
Here is your MITM

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>>34396804

>>34397592
answered my question
>>34397041

>>34397672
what's the benefit of this?

>>34397709
It cleans up the messy tree structure.
Afaik the links are only there so that devs can still write their programs for the traditional structure.

>>34397651
Wow, you don't actually know what the debate is about and you're telling me to get off /g/
https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-9909.html#NSAKeyinMicrosoftCryptoAPI
Fuck off back to /v/, you stupid faggot

>>34397687
you dont even need to do that the isp can literally record the entire conversation.

like 5/6 years ago UK passed a law that stated every isp had to have a black box installed at their entry point to the internet backbone.

Now I guess we know what it is.

>>34397687
Exactly, I find it surprising the other anon didn't understand a MITM

I hope all CEO's who do not care about my privacy get cancer and fucking die.

>>34397475
RFID nanomites embedded into the food, which are then absorbed into your bloodstream which will afterwards embed themselves into your brain.

Once in the brain, they're there for good. Any attempt to dislodge them from the brain tissue will cause them to enter emergency mode, deploy their nanosaws, and collectively shred the brain tissue into mush altogether.

>>34397745
but as a user you shouldn't see any difference

Handing over your data to the NSA is bad for business, so I assume corporations don't do it willingly. But if they do hand it over, then they certainly don't want it leaking out.

>>34397752
Unless you do something like this they will just record garbage. The only way to fuck an encrypted connection is to act as a proxy between both sides from the start of a session, either by making it restart somehow or by taking it from the start. The ISP can do both, so it doesn't matter too much.

>>34397808
...wat

Let it be known, from this year on, 6 June is the global "Maximum Damage Control" day.

>>34397884
What he's describing isn't far fetched by any means. A VERY conservative estimate for the arrival of that kind of tech is 50-75 years.

>>34396681
government killed him

>>34397919
>implying the people would just be okay with that kind of shit

>>34397922
they gave him cancer using directed antennas

>>34397922
>>34396681
probably true
Apple had more money than ft knox so the US couldnt buy them out and bribe them while steve jobs was there.

Afterwards anyone else would have been an easy target

>>34396249
If that's true, why would the government have to keep it a secret?

>>34397950
>implying they'd know before it's too late

>>34396849
FALSE

Google DOES NOT SELL DATA, BECAUSE IT IS NOT PROFITABLE TO SELL DATA.

Google keeps all the data to themselves, they make advertisers pay them a recurring fee(this would not be possible if they sold the data)to use the data for them(i.e. display the advertisers ads to the intended audience)

Again, IT IS NOT PROFITABLE TO SELL THE DATA

>>34397950
>implying they would know
>implying they would have a choice
>implying the nanomites wouldn't be marketed as having some beneficial quality so the uneducated masses would gladly gobble them up
>implying they wouldn't just say "if you're not doing anything bad then you don't have anything to worry about."
>implying people aren't generally ignorant and/or stupid

>>34396249
>durr nutting to hyde
>master troll 2013

>>34398028
L-like fluoride in water, pollution our p-precious bodily fluids?

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>>34398028
>>34397982

>>34398012
It is, but there are tinfoils that think that companies buy this information to Google in case they want to hire someone to see if they are "socially acceptable". Information is not cheap, and just buying some guys' personal info is probably even more expensive. If anything Google sells marketing studies, but they usually give it for free.

>>34398012
>NOT SELL DATA, BECAUSE IT IS NOT PROFITABLE TO SELL DATA.
You're adorable.

https://adwords.google.com/o/KeywordTool

As someone who has advertised on Google, I can say with complete certainty that you have no fucking clue what you're saying.

Google isn't a search engine. It's a data mining company which sells access to its data and traffic.

>they make advertisers pay them a recurring fee
No they don't. Adwords is PPC = Pay Per Click. That is not a recurring fee.A netflix subscription is a recurring fee.

>this would not be possible if they sold the data
Here's the thing about data: you can sell it more than once.

>to use the data for them(i.e. display the advertisers ads to the intended audience)
This is true, but I don't know what you mean by "to use the data for them". I think this may have to do with your poor sentence structure.

>Again, IT IS NOT PROFITABLE TO SELL THE DATA
Again, YOU ARE WRONG

>>34398077
>he thinks there's fluoride in the water because Mommy Government gives a shit about his dental health

>>34398186
Wow this isn't even worth replying to, everything you said is either false, irrelevant, or a technicality(like that fee thing, seriously?)

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>>34397884
Sorry, I like Fringe too much. I was just thinking of intrusive futuristic super-high tech methods of surveillance.

>>34398202
I actually don't believe fluoride reduces cavities. Also, living in a country where we don't put fluorides in drinking water. Also, using a fluoride-free toothpaste.

>>34396081 (OP)
the beautiful thing is that now that that report has been released, they can go ahead and comply tomorrow without being liars. just never talk about it again.

>>34398238
Fluoride is only bad when ingested. Unless you are eating your toothpaste it won't harm you.

>>34398218
Please point out which points are wrong. You don't automatically win an argument by saying "Pfft that's not even worth replying to."

Correct me and I'll be more than willing to see things from your point of view. I'll even apologize.

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>>34397950
Who said they ever needed to know?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCud7Yy82E

>>34398238
>I actually don't believe fluoride reduces cavities

I actually don't believe gravity makes things fall. Things stick to the Earth because they LOVE it.

>>34398343
>tfw your mother gave you fluride tablets every day for most part of your life
>tfw only 1 cavity and I'm 27

T-thanks mom

>>34398343
PROTIP: People who care about their oral hygiene nave less cavities than people who don't, regardless of presence of fluoride in their drinking water.

>>34398311

>http

>>34398568
HTTPS is only the illusion of safety.

My eyes have been opened, they MITM ALL OUR DATA AND CONNECTIONS

>>34398568
Who cares? They are going to register your visits anyways.

ATTENTION:

The contents of this post have been removed and are now subject to terrorist investigation. The content within this post met multiple criteria in PRISM guidelines for suspicious activity that could potentially result in terrorist activity.

http://www.nsa.gov/

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>>34397982
>>34398028

Implying the world's oil based economy won't have collapsed by then making this shit a moot point

>>34398698
implying oil states don't own alternative energie techniques hostage until it happens
implying we'll ever have issues once out of oil, other than for wrapping our food (as no more plastics)

If these companies are all telling the truth then surely they will be suing news agencies worldwide for libel.

>they won't because it is not the truth

the Director of National Intelligence is lying?

Or is some fucking kike lying. You decide

>>34398724

The tech you're talking about won't be relevant when we're trying to put out fires and find fucking food

https://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/8548715/Anonymous_Private_NSA_Document_Release_2013-06-07

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:f3539197e97856c999030063665bfc939d448774&dn=Anonymous+Private+NSA+Document+Release+2013-06-07&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.istole.it%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337

[redacted]

>>34398724

>implying oil states don't own alternative energie techniques hostage until it happens

Oh so you're alternating your tinfoil hat doom and gloom with odd spouts of unwarranted optimism then.

>dat schizophrenia

>>34398739
>implying I live in a country filled with uncivilized baboons
check yourself before you wreck yourself

My country had no "real" federal government for 1.5 year, no riots in the streets, no looting, nothing.

If they're so concerned about user privacy, why are they storing such information in the first place?

>>34398775

>Talking about big brother supertech control in 75 years
>Whoops we have 20 years of fossil fuels left and enormous opposition to alternate energy sources

>>34396876
>9% expected homosexual
...um. That's a REALLY gay baseline.

>>34398765
One off the top of my head
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-fuelled_car

>>34398775

America will probably be "first" to go, not last...

>>34398759
sounds legit

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>>34398808

solid footing here!

>>34398765
salt/fresh water power plants
tidal power plants
concentrated solar power plants
nuclear fusion

>>34396681
The hero /g/ deserved.

>>34398830

Oh too bad the biggest industries in the world will oppose all of that tooth and nail to their death.

>>34398830

You can't even get fucking solar power off the ground, backwards china is even beating you

>>34398775
>My country had no "real" federal government for 1.5 year, no riots in the streets, no looting, nothing.
That's because Belgium is full of insecure people who'd rather kill themselves than cause a public disturbance.

>including several LINKED TO pedophilia and violent outbursts

This is fearmongering for "they're awkward and anxious". Social anxiety is indeed linked to pedophilia and violent outbursts, but is a symptom instead of a cause.

>>34398857
Or because it's small and homogeneous.

If you even shifted power to the states, america would plunge itself into civil war within a decade. If you eliminated the federal government entirely, two thirds of the country would collapse and the pacific coast would join canada.

I will put in an executive order on Monday mandating that we throw out all Microsoft software and stop using external services like dropbox and google accounts out of convenience. Will also ask IT to block Google and other American search engines in the firewall. These companies clearly doesn't respect our privacy and are probably leaking our financial data so American companies can outbid us. It's a small company with a few hundred employees but at least it's a start.

>>34398918
>the pacific coast would join Canada
Over my dead body. I'm not letting the Canadians take all the farmland there.

>>34398932
Enjoy your firing.

>>34398932
Good for you.

>>34398951
I own it and don't intend to fire myself just yet. If it doesn't pan out I'll just sell it.

>>34398857
>>34398918
>>34398946
WAARSCHUWING:

De inhoud van dit bericht is verwijderd en is het onderwerp van een onderzoek naar terroristische activiteit. De inhoud van dit bericht voldeed aan verscheidene van de PRISM criteria richtlijnen voor verdachte activiteiten die potentiëel kunnen uitmonden in een terroristische daad.

http://www.nsa.gov/

>>34398962

>I own it

you own dildos

>>34398918
>Or because it's small and homogeneous.
That's rich, try asking a Vlaming about his opinion on wallons or vice versa.

>>34398979

>>>/krautchan/

>>34397963

That wouldn't have worked because Steve Jobs could never get anything to have good reception.

>>34398979
>NSA
>international power

>>34398984
You don't have situations where one state allows every aspect of bestiality and an adjacent state has it completely outlawed, or one allows cannabis possession and use and another has a state police force that cracks down extra hard on weed.

Places like texas would just flat out secede and shoot anyone that tried to stop them.

come back energy fag I want to make fun of you again

I really don't see the big deal. Who the fuck cares if the government knows you like furry porn or whatever?
No really, give me a good reason why you need privacy from the government.

>>34399028

>or one allows cannabis possession and use and another has a state police force that cracks down extra hard on weed.

It's called colorado and washington.

>>34399028
>Places like texas would just flat out secede and shoot anyone that tried to stop them.

every revolter would be shot dead or imprisoned faggot

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>>34398918
>tfw the pacific coast has all the resources and industry it needs to be a self sufficient country
>tfw we don't need canada

>>34399056

what are you saying exactly

>>34399062
Reading comprehension.

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>>34396187

How did this shit get out, anyway? How did the guy who broke the story get his hands on the slides?

>>34399124

probably wikileaks

>>34399079
>filename
>not liking spokane

>>34399028
Yet there are 3 separate judicial systems for Flanders, Wallonia and BHV.

>>34399079

you need everything in canada

>>34399056
I know it's unlikely, but imagine that some day they decided to ban furry porn and send everybody that has seen furry to a concentration camp. Again, this is unlikely, but you could expect some fines for searching "torrent sites" or "where to download this movie" in a future. What's worse, it could be done in a retroactive way.

>>34399124
Someone working with this shit that got fed up with the 1984 crap.

>>34399184
Yeah, no.

>>34399184

>Furries going to jail.

Nobody would care. Deviants are discarded by society without any opposition.

>>34399211
Well, furries would care.

>>34399202
Don't you see people proposing dumb laws everyday? What if some day one of those passes?

>>34399124
The files were given directly to the Brit newspaper The Guardian as far as I know. So that means someone working with this crap decided to leak the info.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/7/4407184/anonymous-fakes-nsa-document-leak

lel

>>34399234

are you a furry or something

>>34399265
No, but if they banned every kind of porn I would be worried. Furries were only an example.

>hurr they might do this
>they might do that
This isn't a movie you dumb fucks, when has the Government done anything against the population?

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>>34399290

>>34399211
Only a backwards, reactionary society inhabited by devolving apes does shit like that. Thought crime is so medieval europe/present day middle east.

>U WEIRD
>U NO BELONG IN TRIBE WITH LEHORATIO MCAMERICA
>THINK U 2 WEIRD

Advanced societies realize that no matter what your weird fetishes are, you're a source of labor and taxes. Then they tell you that you need to keep them behind closed doors and if you don't you're going to be charged with sexually harassing the general public, because there's a line between free thought and going all out to destroy your culture.

>>34399295
No, seriously.
They've done retarded shit that may have been misguided, but it was never a planned out attack on the population with malicious intent like in 1984 or other dystropian books.
Just fuck off.

>>34396876
gay guh new lee nucks user here AMA

>>34399324
But someone deviant enough could be chaff to satisfy the masses. If enough people don't like someone else, it could be profitable to placate them at the expense of the more obscure people.

>>34399336
Operation northwoods.

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>>34399324
>a backwards, reactionary society inhabited by devolving apes

what is the united states of america, alex?

>>34396874
It's called the patriot act

>>34399336
But nobody wants to get targeted by that retarded shit, that's why it's important that the government can only access data when there are really important affairs and they have some real clues or heavy suspicion of it (read: getting a warrant for something important like terrorism).

>>34399365
That's a misguided attempt to protect the people you dumb fuck.

>>34399354
>implying you need a public crusade against anyone but pedophiles

>>34399388
The government shouldn't need to jump through legal gymnastics to catch criminals and other shit.
Fuck, other civilized countries don't have technicality issues like America does. Do you not see the problem here?

>>34399354
multiple CIA employees are known pedophiles that were never investigated

who knows how many are furries

They covered this in This Week in Law
twit.tv/show/this-week-in-law/214

NSA collecting phone records, NSA surveillance order, EFF reacts to NSA, forced back door legislations, Google Glass, and more.

>>34399396
And "spy on everyone for their own good" couldn't be called "a misguided attempt to protect the people"?

>>34399396
Not him, but intent is irrelevant when an innocent person might end up dead or in prison.

>>34399415
By civilized you better not mean England.

>>34399426
Gathering information isn't a bad thing unless you're a criminal, in which case you shouldn't be protected anyway since you're a fucking crminal.

>>34399444
I am convinced this guy is trolling.

>OH NO THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS I FAP TO FUTA
>THAT MEANS THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING OT TELL ALL MY FRIENDS, FAMILY AND EMPLOYERS ABOUT IT

>>34399444
>outlaw the word fucking

You goddamn criminal, you deserve what you get.

Saying "We've never heard of PRISM" is literally just the companies saying "Why would the NSA tell us THEIR codename for it?"

>>34399457
Seriously, tell me why it's a bad thing for the government to know your secrets.
You trust them with tons of your secrets already, such as your SSN.

Can't wait for the NSA to get to look through all my pornographic searches in Bing Video Search.

>>34399468
not unless you become a political threat

>>34399509
If you were a terrorist threat then they'd just shoot you. Honestly that's the way it should be, then maybe we could have avoided shit like the Boston bombings or the Arizona shooting where we had prior intel about the people who committed the crimes.

>>34399482
Damage control. Nobody wants to admit that they let the government have free access to all their information. Admitting so may even be against the law, or against whatever weird agreement they have with the government.

Also, the first company to ADMIT they do this would suffer a PR nightmare and users would jump ship. All these canned press releases serve no other purpose than to calm their users so business as usual can resume.

>>34399537
We've been spied on for years, yet Boston still happened. How do you explain that?

>>34399415
Let me put it this way:

>The NSA has some proof that someone might be a terrorist/pedophile/whatever
>They want to access the Google servers to check
>They talk to a judge and wait one or just a few day
>The judge sees the proof
>Is it enough? Yes/No

>Yes
>The NSA gives the warrant to Google
>They see the content related to their account
>They catch the criminal

>No
>There was not enough proof
>The NSA needs more solid proof in order to get a warrant
>This means they didn't really know if it was really a terrorist and were just going to check "just in case"

Now, you want this way:
>The NSA has some proof that the guy is a terrorist/pedophile/whatever
>They check Google's database
>Was it a criminal? Yes/No

>Yes
>You had good luck and your suspicion was right

>No
>You just checked the guy's account for shits and giggles but... what's that? Did he download this file protected by intellectual property?
>Fined for downloading a single fucking music disc

>>34399444
criminals gets food, shelter and protection. There is more money being spent on jails rather than the education system.

homeless people commit petty crimes to get food in jails.

>>34399537
no no, a political threat.
unless you think opposition to the present political system is the same as terrorism?

you would not be far off from the thinking of slaves like this guy
>>34399484

>>34399484
Because America has a track record of being a nanny state that likes to tell its citizens the difference between right and wrong and doing all they can to preserve as much of the status quo as possible.

What's simple political opinions today could be encouraging terrorism and treason tomorrow. Hello next red scare.

Did you let it slip that you use some form of encryption? Enjoy being a target the moment a law outlawing them passes (to keep us safe from them pedos and terrorists). But if you're not someone the government finds gross or too politically incorrect, you have nothing to fear, right? Except the RIAA/MPAA lawsuits when police find any amount of copyrighted material that was obviously not paid for.

And your porn? Every 4chan user's precious porn? That adult woman's chest was too flat, you fucking pedophile, and that image did not appeal to prurient interest or meet community standards. We're taking you in on obscenity charges.

>>34399537
we did.
The russians had told the us about the guys that came back from their hometown to the US. they warned the us. Look it up

>>34399537
Political threat: if you have a chance of winning against me fair and square I'll kill you secretely.

terrorist threat: look up terrorism.

>>34399619
are we uk/australia now

>>34399065
>not knowing things
States can legally cede from the union you idiot

>>34399756
Look how well that went last time.

>>34399056
It's just another scandal in a long line of scandals perpetrated by the current administration that absolutely reek of totalitarianism.

>Second, we provide user data to governments only in accordance with the law.

You see, that's the problem here.

>>34399756
nope
wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White

>>34399781
Well, as far as I know this PRISM shit isn't a "law", so they probably talk about warrants. And if a judge believes you did something wrong, then you are fucked irregardless.

>>34399801
>wikipedia

>>34399775
s/perpetrated/inherited

>>34399873
>supreme court 1869

>>34399801
Also, do you know what "Unilaterally" means? They just did it wrong back then. States can indeed, secede from the united states

>>34399891
Still valid.

America is a shitty democracy because it's two wolves and a sheep deciding on dinner, where the sheep is not allowed to leave without first asking permission from the wolves.

>>34399781
What do you think Google should do?

Create an army of flying killer drones & cars and conduct an "anti-terrorist" operation when somebody from the US government wants to get at user data?

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>>34398992

you taking a piss?

>>34399940
people are eating each other? where?

point is states cant secede. its unconstitutional.
deal.

>>34400053
reminder not to respond to obvious trolls.

>>34400053
States should be able to secede, and so should populations, to escape oppression by majority rule. This is the same principle the damn country was founded on.

>>34399580
>The NSA has some proof that someone might be a terrorist/pedophile/whatever
>They want to access the Google servers to check
>The NSA has some proof
>They want to access the Google servers

If they already have proof, why do they need to access the servers of a private company?