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Just shut up and reboot already.

>>34056962 (OP)
what, because those arguments were already said now they magically don't count?
i'm building my computer, my friends are too
if you paid attention to this board you would know
>>>/leddit/

>>34057033
>posted from my beige box

>>34056962 (OP)
>How can you justify using a phone that you didn't make "all by yourself" by sticking slots together?

You are comparing oranges to elephants.

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>>34057045
>implying

>>34056962 (OP)
No they are our rebuttals.
The underlining factors still lie.
We don't like Apples design and focus.

>2005: I don't want an apple because it's not user serviceable
I'd push that forwards a couple of years. Virtually every part in my G5 iMac is user accessible and serviceable.
On the other hand, my Intel model from a few years later only gives (easy) access to the RAM.

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>>34057045
>posted from my clamshell

>>34056962 (OP)
becuz no right cluck and paid service paks

>>34057101
I don't understand how people could buy that. It's the worst looking computer ever made.

>>34056998
Oh god...

>>34056962 (OP)
>How can you justify using a phone that you didn't make "all by yourself" by sticking slots together?

If we could we would, silly.
Removable battery/ Micro-SD is the closest we can get at the moment. Custom ROMS too.

>>34056962 (OP)
>1999: I don't want an apple because it's expensive
>2003: I don't want an apple because I can build my own for cheaper
>2005: I don't want an apple because it's not user serviceable
>2013: I don't want an iphone because u cant replace the battery and it has no flash
4/5 still applicable.

>>34057330
>If we could we would, silly.

But you can't, because you do not have billions of dollars. So you pretend that sticking an SD card in your phone and ricing it with a ROM that someone else wrote is "making a phone".

Does sticking a Type R decal on your car constitute "making a car" too?

>>34057400
>pretend
he never even implied it
-1/10 do you even logic

>>34057080
I built my current workstation in a define r2.
Best looking, best performing case the money can buy.

>>34056962 (OP)
>How can you justify using a phone that you didn't make "all by yourself" by sticking slots together?

Because it's a phone and not a PC.

I didn't "build" my MP3 player or my television either.

I dont want an iphone because there is the GS4

>>34056962 (OP)
I don't want an Iphone because quite honestly the OSX looks ugly, clunky and is made for retards.

I think people tend not to touch on a very important subject.
The iphone looks incredibly outdated. So does it's operating system. And itunes.
It lost the little appeal it had two years ago, I honestly don't know why "trendsters" still think it's in.

>>34057568

>opinion.

>>34056962 (OP)
>2003: I don't want an apple because I can build my own for cheaper
>2005: I don't want an apple because it's not user serviceable

These two are still relevant.

>>34057607
>babies use it erry day all day
>not made for retards

>>34057606
They don't, the Galaxy S4 is the new in thing.

>>34056998
why is that guy so ugly, poor thing

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>>34057370

>>34056962 (OP)
Got muh hopes up.

Could of recommended a replaceable battery iphone for my gfs sister but op is just as bad with tech as her.

way too expensive

>>34056962 (OP)
>2013: I don't want an apple because it's expensive
>2013: I don't want an apple because I can build my own for cheaper
>2013: I don't want an apple because it's not user serviceable
>2013: I don't want an iphone because this smartphone fad will go away
>2013: I don't want an iphone because u cant replace the battery and it has no flash
>2013: I don't want an iphone because it doesnt respect my freedoms

You would have thought that apple would have learned its lessons and every year the list gets longer and longer

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>>34057606
>>34057568

Lagdroid user here, I consider it very important to have "technical" crap scrolling across my screen. It makes me feel smart, because I still believe in an anachronistic view that holds technology to be an optional hobby of social autists instead of a necessary part of modern life.

>>34056962 (OP)
>is still true
>is still true
>is still true
>while no longer true, competitors have better options
>is still true

your point?
and no one builds his own phone because the parts required are neither easily available nor reasonably priced

>>34057702
Or, you know, you can choose to not have that, and to cover up most of that theming.

It's nice to have choices, isn't it?

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>apple

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMsLArefSOw

>>34057629
go to any starbucks (hipster hideout)
there you will find
94% iPhone users
5% impotent business people with blackberries
1% me, with a GNex

and I only go there since it's the only place where I can get a lactose free caffee latte without missing my train

>>34057685
you'd think Apple would've wisened up and taken advice from Winfags, but nope, they keep making more and more money every year.

>>34056962 (OP)
The very first reason you listed is still valid

>>34057765
I see lots of dell fags in my starbucks, half with androids. Though these are the starbucks between pike place market and westlake in seattle

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>>34057757
>What do you plan on using your iphone for?
>Texting, Messages with friends

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>>34057767
>implying there is money to be made in technology

What board do you think this is? We're here to complain about being poor by insulting anyone who has a little extra money to spend on a polished product. Now if you'll excuse me I'll be spending most of the afternoon trying to get these extremely common codecs to work on my free linux OS so I can watch some anime videos that I stole via bittorrent.

>>34057796
hm, might be different in murrica then
my starbucks is inside a major german train-station

>>34057702
>necessity
>iphone

You realize you can get an android phone for 50 buck right ?

And what is so necessary about angry birds and a puking app is beyond me.

>>34057833
what do you mean? just install gstreamer from the repos and all your anime will work if it didnt before.

>>34057800
>friends
hahahaha, oh wow

Ordinary people have the necessary means to build computers. You can say that same for phones.

>>34057849
No, I think its just that my city is too hipster to be hipster so they buy dells. Hell my city invented starbucks (protip: it was started in a famers/public market)

>>34057854
>phone
>necessary

you might be surprised to hear this, but 100 years ago, many people still didn't have phones
cell phones have only become commonplace in the last 25 years
smartphones in about the last 15 years

nobody needs a smartphone
or a cell phone
or any phone at all

but it's nice to have

albeit, if you're really going to use it for texting and making calls only, you're probably better of with some 20 bucks dumbphone

>>34057907

Yeah, you don't need a phone like you don't need money.

Have fun foraging for grubs in fallen trees, because you clearly don't live in the real world.

>>34056962 (OP)
How did we "run out of excuses"? All those reasons were valid then and pretty much are still now.

>>34057400
>Ricing it with a ROM
You just confirmed you don't know anything about phones or technology in general.

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>>34057833
I've been there and it sucks.

>>34057942
>I live in a place filled with grandmothers who cannot into sending emails

don't forget to get some new paper for your telex machine

>>34057800
>and what do you use your current phone for?
>um.. uh..

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>>34056962 (OP)

>2013
>implying Apple isn't still expensive

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I have my iMac paired up with Bose speakers. I may have paid three times as much money as someone else with non-big name speakers and a self-built PC, and my hardware may be technically inferior, but I know that my friends are impressed when they see a beautiful Apple computer and that Bose name.

>>34058069
>iMac instead of Mac Pro

>>34057907
>Smartphones existing in 1998

>>34058007
>I live on a college campus or some other bubble environment

If you have a job, I guarantee you're doing something like operating a cash register or some shit. Voice calls are still way more efficient for some kinds of interactions.

>>34058048
it is. But expensive ≠ overpriced

>>34058116
So the iPhone has worse technical specs than an equivalently priced Samsung phone, and a less customizable interface.

Why isn't it overpriced, exactly?

>>34058116
Things are worth what people are willing to pay for them

>>34058128
because it's magical and just werks.
umad, poorfag?

>>34058128
While having lower specs it still runs just as well, looks nicer, and feels sturdier (yes, I know feels sturdier ≠ sturdier)

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>>34058069

I have my Blue LED "rig" paired with this awesome logitech surround system. 34 channels means I can hear the monsters better even though I only have 2 ears, and the fourth order bandpass "bass" box containing a cheap chinese 4" paper cone midbass driver makes really satisfying flubbing noises whenever I shoot my BFG 9000 while playing the latest version of Doom. I know my video card will be obsolete in 6 months and it puts out enough heat to boil coffee, but I know someone on Youtube might be impressed when they see how many FRAPS I get on this thing. Please respond ;_;

>>34058152
>runs just as well
OS is more efficient, so agreed.
>Looks nicer
I really don't think so, and it also doesn't have a keyboard. I'm not really a fan of the design.
>feels sturdier
From when I've held them, they only do this if you pack them in a case. Otherwise, they're thin and feel like you're holding a little sheet of metal.

>>34058176
But the video card on a Mac will have been obsolete for more than 6 months by the time you buy it.

And the Bose has the same internals, just in a shinier box and with a 500 percent markup.

>>34058176
>Please respond ;_;

my sides!

>>34056962 (OP)
I don't want an Apple because

-I do work on my computer
-I play games on my computer
-I use my phone for work
-I enjoy developing things for my phone such as kernels
-I don't feel the need to use ghettoware like iTunes just to drag and drop files
-iPhones lack basic features such as NFC
-iPhones offer no device choices such as bigger, smaller screens or keyboards
-iOS is more fragmented than Android; not in version numbers, but in features. If you aren't running the latest iOS on the latest iPhone, you're missing features.

There is nothing about Apple products that suits my needs therefore I will continue to not buy them.

>>34058152
>opinions justify overspending
It's like you're really an applefag anon!

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A broken iPhone 5 screen glass costs $250 to get fixed, nevertheless being easier to replace than iPhone 4S's screen.

>>34056962 (OP)
Not even nearing the limits of a PC and my PC still destroys most macs.

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>>34058234
forgot pic

>1999: I don't want an apple because it's expensive
>2003: I don't want an apple because I can build my own for cheaper
>2005: I don't want an apple because it's not user serviceable
Are you implying these aren't true?

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Part of me misses my Blackberry. It was a highly efficient communication tool. Great call quality, great build quality, physical keyboard, and bbOS served it perfectly.

>>34058234
>my PC still destroys most Macs
Considering it also destroys most PCs, that point is invalid

>>34058249
Q10 is basically the same design as that.

Whats goin on in the picture?

>>34058198

Except that nobody buys macs to play games, because your average mac buyer is an adult with a job.

>>34058260
Why? We're not talking about prebuilts.

>>34058272
>rendering never happens

>>34058260
Also since Macs ARE PCs.

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Also, this looks way better than an iPhone.

>>34058249
I miss the Blackberry's trackball. Of course it didn't work properly when your thumb was wet/sweaty/whatever, but it was a great input device.
That's the main reason I have an Android Dev Phone 1 now

>>34058280
Don't be that guy

>>34058286
isn't this running a modified version of android?
if there is another version of that coming out summer 2014 in the uk ill grab it when my contact runs out

>>34058249

>that satisfying as fuck clickity clack that BB keyboards made
>that feel when you heard the "blink" sound and your phone was flashing red to indicate a text or email

>>34058301
It's running Sailfish, which is a linux based OS that doesn't run everything in Java. It should lag less because of this.

OP this logic is like
WHY DO YOU GUITARISTS WIND YOU OWN PICKUPS WHEN YOU CAN ET THEM MADE FOR YOU CHEAPER
or
WHY DO YOU REBUILD YOUR MOTORBIKE ENGINES WHEN YOU CAN GET SOMEONE TO TUNE IT FOR YOU IN HALF THE TIME

People tinker with the shit they are interested in because they enjoy it, getting some one else to build my machine would remove half the fun

>>34058302
my first HTC (wildfire) had the flash to indicate they removed it, was sada about it
my next phone im gonna look for one which does that, it is helpful

>>34058317
its retarded that so many phones removed indication leds. at least we still have bln until everything becomes on screen buttons.

>>34058309
seems good if its in the uk next year ill have a go with it
>>34058328
i hope that doesnt happen

>>34058309
It doesn't run everything in java or it doesn't run anything in java?

>this smartphone fad will fade
Lel

>>34058353
its already a trend thats starting. wasted screen space is all it is because you can never get rid of the bezel. they'll just put logos there. i can understand for tablets since you are more likely to reorientate the screen more often but on phones its just silly. phones have become gigantic boring slate devices. give me a keyboard and real buttons.

>>34058374
i bet op thinks iphones were the first smartphone or something

>>34058152
it just werks

>>34058152
no multitasking, halting everything the system is doing to draw an animation and forcing developers to use screenshots of their apps as load screens to fool the users into thinking it loaded instantaneously will do that. functionality > aesthetics

I've never wanted Apple because its neutered and expensive bullshit that is used more as a fashion statement than what it actually is, a tool, Apple is for the sheep that let companies spy on them and overcharge them for products that are not customizeable, feel cheap and flimsy, and break at the slightest drop

Custom PC has always been and always will be, the true consumer market

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>>34057045
Can it be?
Have I actually found a phreaker on /g/?

NO SD CARD SLOT

I have my music stored on a 16gb Micro SD Card

I'm not buying a shitty phone in 2013 that has no sd card slot

>>34057118
Compared to what else was available they look really nice

>>34058450
>music on a phone

>>34058450
i bet you like beats man

>>34058503
>having to fumble devices when you get a phone call

You have to realize how stupid that argument is.

>>34058511
Nope m9

I don't like beats, own beats or want beats. They're shit, overpriced garbage with no sdcard slots.

>>34058503
Yep

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>>34058503
>music on anything but a phone

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>>34057101
Looks like this.

>>34058529
>Glass 'answer phone'
as you press the button to stop music on your mp3 player
fuck your shit

>>34056962 (OP)
>buy a core i7
>buy an nvidia/ati card
>be better than any console for the next decade
>for less than $500

Why am I supposed to get trolled by this again?

>>34058582
lmao u respond'd epicly troll'd

>>34058366
It claims it will support Android applications so it must run something in Java.
It's an open sores compatibility layer tho.

>>34058537
I have a dedicated player

>>34058511
Nope, I don't use shit

>>34058529
>device fumbling
It's called separate pockets.

>>34058623
i think it can run android stuff in java but the main stuff isnt java

>>34058450
>16gb micro sd card

no please no

>>34056962 (OP)
I don't want iphone cause it is expensive and requires itunes. I also dislike Apple.

>>34056962 (OP)
>Troll thread

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>>34058648
wut

>>34058577
You forgot to mention ripping headphones out of your ear and then stepping on them while your shoes are covered in dog shit.

Anyways.

>not consolidating all devices
>not wearing wireless headphones with bluetooth
>not hearing a little beep when phone call comes in
>pressing 1 button that automatically pauses your music, answers the call, and puts the music back on when call is over

Future feels good.

>>34058673
what kind of clumsy idiot are you?

>>34058673
>Bluetooth always on
>Dat battery drain

>>34058661
too small!

>>34058708
Well I also have 16gb on my phone and like 4gb is also taken up with music.

>>34058688
I don't know what kind of shit you have but bluetooth doesn't drain my battery at all, especially when it's not paired.

>>34058686
Go ahead, try to justify your archaic technology usage.

>>34058661
You whine about no expandable storage then only expand it by a measly 16GB

>>34058717
So you'd be good with a 32GB iPhone. Goddammit you're the worst kind of person. You whine about there being no expandable storage when you don't even fucking need it

>>34058755
dude hes a trip who shitposts in /tv/

>>34058755
> having to transfer all the music on my computer to a shitty phone that I can't tinker with to appease you
> you people prefer this instead of simply taking the sdcard out and placing it in another phone
lel

>>34056998
7/10

>>34057757
>le master trawl, trawling in his natty enviro

>>34058450
This is such bullshit, pretty much every reputable OEM are just obeying Google and is doing their best to kill off Micro-SD. Pretty forcing me to only buy the S4.

>>34058996
S4 is a good phone my bro has it

IT CAME WITH A 32GB SD CARD AND A SLOT TO PUT IT IN

since when does iphone not have a flash?

>>34057055
I believe the phrase is "apples to orangutan".

>>34057095
>On the other hand, my Intel model from a few years later only gives (easy) access to the RAM.

Too bad Intel only makes the CPU and chipset at the minimum, not the chassis. Even if they did, it would be easier to disassemble than anything from Apple.

>>34057101

I think there's a pile of these stacked up in the corner at every elementary school.

>>34058249

I miss having physical buttons for a keyboard. I could type a lot faster with that than this touch screen bullshit.

>>34056962 (OP)
There is no excuse, not to get Macbooks today but iPhones are a different cup of tea. The shit is generations behind mid class androids for 6x of the price. There is no excuse to get one.

>>34057611
Even more so now, you used to be able to replace the ram in apple's laptops.

>cult of PC building
Hardly a cult. You think /g/ are the only ones to build their desktops?

For me, it's a neat learning exercise. I would not get anywhere near the price/performance a prebuilt would give.

Also, why do you think we wish to build phones? They are a little different than desktops which manufacturers have just slapped together the same way we have.

>>34060594
Why would you need more RAM on a fucking laptop? The cpu will cap you in every task before you can even use up 4GB.

1999: I don't want an apple because it's expensive
2000: I don't want an apple because it's expensive
2005: I don't want an apple because it's expensive
2009: I don't want an apple because it's expensive
2013: I don't want an apple because it's expensive

umad richfags?

>>34061140
You mean poorfags?


Moron.

>>34061177
Nah, in fact I do mean richfags.