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Cyberbullying.

It's a real problem, and with new laws being introduced, its going to be a real problem for you and I.

I just had a conversation with my mother who holds strong to the belief that if you talk smack on the innernet and somebody offs themself, you should be held accountable for their life.

Thoughts?
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>>33389283 (OP)
They deserve 10 year in jail minimal if sufficient evidence is provided. Most likely Facebook messages would be pulled by Law Enforcement.
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>>33389344
but what can be considered bullying?
If someone's having a hard time with their mom, and i say "lol ur mom is a whore" and they get so mad and kill themself, should I be thrown in jail for a joke in bad taste?
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report to cyberpolice
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>>33389366
Slander, putting them out in social situations.... There is actually a lot of guidelines for Florida Bullying that could be applied to this.
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>>33389401
http://www.bullypolice.org/fl_law.html
Under the definition listing they provide 10 points. I feel that's sufficient.
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Quite honestly, I don't think cyberbullying is a real thing. I think it's ust some bullshit made up by the media (surprise) in order to push internet agendas.

It's always "Oh but what about the children" Man fuck the children. Stop fuckign relying on other people to raise your fucking kids god damnit.
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i think you should kill yourself. also, ur a liar lindsay.
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your mother is a whore
/thread
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>>33389283 (OP)

Why does the internet as a medium of communication that's different mean that laws about harassment should be different?

>>33389366

Why are you even making that "joke" in the first place? What are you even trying to accomplish? How is it a joke if that person doesn't know you?

As someone who's had an undergrad in sociology with respect to computer mediated communication, people who think it's a fucking joke are the problem.
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1. Teasing;
2. Social exclusion;
3. Threat;
4. Intimidation;
5. Stalking;
6. Physical violence;
7. Theft;
8. Sexual or racial harassment;
9. Public humiliation; or
10. Destruction of property.

Bye 4cha
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>>33389401
but aren't laws against slander, defamation of character, harassment, blackmail and other "bullying" thing already covered by law?
I keep hearing about "new cyberbully laws", does anyone have any idea what these entail?
Or are they just more useless appeal to emotion laws that america loves so much?
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I think bullying in all forms is a necessary way to forward society. I strongly oppose all laws that attempt to punish bullies, not only for that reason, but also because it is very vague.
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Let's not kid ourselves, folks... freedom of speech is dead.

We live in a zero-accountability age. As in, people have zero accountability for their actions, but someone else must be held accountable in their place.

The land of the free. Where you can sue a company for spilling coffee on yourself. You can sue television shows for your lack of parenting. You can sue some guy on the Internet because you didn't see the sings that your kid was suicidal. Don't give me any bullshit... there are always signs, but if you never took an interest in their life, it's not like you would notice...
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>>33389465
lol
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Galil best raifu.
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>this thread
0/10 go back to your dead mom's basement.
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I'm very much against bullying. I also don't believe that "cyberbullying" is a real thing. Let's say somebody takes pictures of your dick in the locker room and spreads them around the internet. That's just normal bullying, and it's bad. Let's say that a group of people conspire on facebook to make your life at school miserable spreading rumors and such. That's just normal bullying again. Now, let's say that some guy you don't know on the internet makes a point to periodically send you emails pertaining to wat a faget u r and how he fuks ur mum wen you go to school little boy and ill fuck you and your little dog too. That's "cyberbullying", aka somebody you don't know who doesn't know you insulting you in front of all your internet friends. While it may be irritating, anybody who takes that sort of stuff seriously deserves everything they may end up doing to themselves because of it. If I had to guess, this is yet another side effect of our new self-esteem-centric "You're super special and as good as everybody else no matter what you do, and nobody is allowed to say otherwise" method of raising children.
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>>33389510
reported for bullying
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>>33389496
>didn't see the sings

That's it. I've failed. Going to go kill myself...

and you are all responsible. Have fun in court.
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The only time another person can be responsible for one's suicide is if he had the Death Note.
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I CAN'T GET THE CAP OFF
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>>33389483
I really don't know anymore. It doesn't even matter. I'll speak from personal experience starting now.

>Be me, underage fag back in 9th grade
>Being Bullied
>Kid FB's me a picture of my ass cheeks because someone caught me in gym when my underwear slipped down.
>Take it to School Resource Officer (Screenshot)
>He lol'd at me.
>I cry... Go home.
>Get over it.
>Grow the fuck up.
>Saw the kid at a restaurant and slammed his face into a urinal and left him unconscious when I was high.
>Alpha as fuck now.
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In the recent case of a nova scotia girl who killed herself after pictures circulated of her being sexually assaulted.
People are up in fucking arms about this, but not because it was rape. not because of blackmail or harassment or people generally being assholes. No, the monster they want to go after for this is the internet.

Apparently cyberbullying caused her death, and not the fact that she was surrounded by sociopaths.
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>>33389366
insulting somebody is a joke?
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>>33389483
It needs to be published to be libel.

A personal message from one person to another is hardly libel.

Though, if it's something like a forum or blog, then it wold be applicable.
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>>33389518
But bullies are very often regarded as cool, popular and very much respected. Could it be that it is (in most cases) the people that are being bullied that need to change?
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Its just an extension of real life bullying, and no new laws need to be made just old ones need to be applied.
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>>33389505

Who is this furslut anyways?
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>>33389576
A lot of humor comes at the expense of others. My example obviously isn't very funny, but should you really be prosecuted for saying something stupid?
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Go kill your self.

...

brb, FBI execution squad is banging the door
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>>33389576
The problem is that someone will be insulted by whatever you say. If this were to be applied to adults, humor would be dead.

Grow thicker skin.
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>>33389483
Yes, there are laws for cyberbullying, just apply the laws we have. Cyberbullying is a legitimate issue, and ignoring the person will merely incite him to be further persistant or indirectly bully you via your friends or family.

Many people who are opposed to cyber bullying laws are people who actively participate it in facebook, or have no experiencin in it.
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>>33389620
Best girl.
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>>33389598
>bullies are ... cool, popular and very much respected
Don't worry, I know. That's why I have this image too.
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Sadly a lot of parents are too overly protective of their children. Someone who is shielded from conflict for most of their childhood is more likely to be an obvious target for a cyberbully. If they have never learnt how to cope in conflicts, what hope do they have? IMO in the case where someone offs themselves, the parent or guardian should be partly to blame too.
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>>33389523
Reported for being a moron
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>>33389458
this. a thousand times this.
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>>33389493
I hope you don't have children.
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>>33389716
he has a point.
I see a lot of bullying as the "entrance exam" to real life. If you cant learn to deal with shitheads in middle school, you're not going to be able to deal with people who have actual power over you.

That said, bullying can go way too fucking far and shit all over peoples lives.
the real problem here, however, is children need to be taught how to deal with bullying on the internet instead of just instinctively replying and keeping the shit going.
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>>33389552
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>>33389505
r u retarded?
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>>33389598
The reason that it's the bullied who get sent to therapists etc. and not the bullies has nothing to do with the fact that the bullies are the "normal folk" while the bullied are not.

It's a matter of simple efficiency, instead of sending a group of perhaps 10 people (bullies) to a therapist, it's far more efficient to send one person to a therapist, hoping it may instill some change.

I was bullied at a young age, call the bullies cool, popular and respected as much as you want, all the bullies I used to know have turned into major losers later on in life.
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>>33389620
my raifu
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>>33389682
this. also a thousand times.
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>>33389667
The problem with bullying is that often adults fail to do anything to correct it because the kid "needs to grow thicker skin". So the popular kids make fun of little Tim because he's half black, or gay, or has a low income family, etc. The teasing gets increasingly brutal, because let's face it, it's hilarious. One kid puts up a Facebook page about Tim's mom being a race traitor whore. Another kid tapes a giant dong to Tim's locker with a photoshopped picture of him swallowing it.

When Tim finally gets fed up and slams the bully's head against a wall, he gets expelled and has charges pressed against him.
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So tripfag ostracisation and hatred is considered bullying?
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>>33389716
Why? I'd be a loving and caring father. But my kid has to learn that not everyone is loving and caring, and that sometimes you need to stand up for yourself.

Also: My kid would beat yours in a fight.
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>muh feelings
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>>33389848
it would be if they didnt feed off it like leeches
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>>33389848
nah they like it so it's just S&M fetishism
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>>33389862
let's face it: we both know you'll never fuck anything unrelated to you
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>>33389828
she has a fluffy tail
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>>33389845
>When Tim finally gets fed up and slams the bully's head against a wall, he gets expelled and has charges pressed against him.
This basically happened to me. I didn't slam the bully's head exactly, but I was indeed expelled and charges were pressed against me. Nothing happened to the bully.
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ITT: cyberbullies crying that their precious anonymity is the only reason they have the balls to ever say something, let alone they can't even do it face to face without getting their shit pushed in.

I'll be happy when "anonymous" internet posters will eventually be held accountable for their actions. I don't get a free pass for if I do something stupid off the internet, why should you get one and make the medium your weapon?
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>>33389523
reported for being a mormon
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>>33389894
Didn't you know that people have a right to not be offended?
Especially jews, blacks, and women.
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How to deal with bullies (school ed.)

>Get bullied
>Go with the bullying, unless it's physical, show that you don't give a fuck or just cool bro through it
>bully gets no satisfaction
>leaves
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>>33389862
>your kid makes a stand and beats up the bully
>he consequently gets kicked out of the school system
>bully's mom files assault charges on your kid and makes it look like your kid is a psychopath who resorts to violence to solve his problems
>CPS may end up getting involved because they suspect that you're a neglectful parent
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This is going to be used by liberals to censor the internet.

Fuck
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>>33389969
No
Don't go with the bullying
Laugh at it.
Show the bully that you find amusement in what he is doing to you
Become friends with the bully
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>>33389932
say that to my face fucker.
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>>33389972
God bless America... Thanks liberals!
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If you are stupid or pathetic enough to take what is said on the internet seriously then you deserve what is coming to you.
>internet
>srs buisness
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>>33389458
More or less this.

I think the issue is that the media likes to make out that it's something new, when really it's just regular bullying in a modern, technological context.
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>>33389972
alternatively you could be smart and just beat the shit out the bully outside school where the school isn't held responsible
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please stop the bullying ;_; i get bullied on 4chan and it's not very nice!! just be kind to people!!
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>>33389908
this is bullying.

>>33389925
Which is why bullying laws are in place. take photographs of the evidence and take them to police. however, i understand that this is rarely effective. It's a shitty situation and I really feel for you.

>>33389932
but current laws already make bullying illegal. You cant stop people anonymously harassing you on the internet, so anti cyberbully laws are only going to fuck it up for the rest of us who are not intentionally trying to be malicious/not doing anything.
And yeah, you're exactly right. If those people who made facebook pages mocking suicide kids had to use their real identities to make the pages, well, the pages wouldnt exist. Anonymity creates a lot of factors in this, but the simple fact is, you cant get rid of anonymity. Even before the internet, you can always leave a note at someones locker, throw a brick through their window, or beat someone up with a mask. trying to eradicate this is only going to hurt everyone else.
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>>33389932
>implying I can't just use tor to troll someone into suicide
these laws are flawed
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Remember this idiot? Yeah, she got a person fired for ONE lame joke that had nothing to do being sexist towards females and a another forking a repository joke.

Good thing she got fired, she was a fucking terrible PR to begin with. I'm surprised the was still working before that incident.
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>>33390050
Actually one time some kids on my bus got into a fight AFTER getting off the bus and where in the neighbourhood, and they both got in trouble at school.
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People get arrested for harassment an libel, so how is saying it on the internet any different?
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>>33390054
fuk u honk honk
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Well hopefully everyone that posts really shitty opinions on 4chan is emotionally stable.
Otherwise I'm going to be in a lot of trouble.
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>>33390050
>where the school isn't held responsible
You wish. School personnel, especially minorities, are extremely prone to abuse of power. They WILL fuck you up at school for things that happened out of school grounds.
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What cyberbullying is:

Aggressive defamation, character assasination, and constant harassment that affects you in real life in a way other than "waaah, i feel bad". Similar actions have already been made illegal in print (slander, harassment, libel). Cyberbullying is ruining a tripfags life because they're so lame and gay lol, /b/ style.

What cyberbullying is not:

Calling someone a niggerfaggot.
Anything that you can do in public without being arrested.
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>>33390061
>but current laws already make bullying illegal.

Current laws haven't been updated in a lot of places to cover the internet good sir, which is why there was a huge push in the early millennium to do it.
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>>33390054
I will fuck you in your fat asshole with my penis
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>>33389932

You can't be bullied if you're anonymous, chucklefuck.
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Remember guys, this usually only applies to facebook faggotory.
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>>33390092
its not. which is exactly why im worried about people trying to enact "cyber bully" laws
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>>33390111
>>33390087
Well I guess things have changed I used to see fights when I got off the bus all the time. They were just fights though not really bully related.
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>>33390061
>take photographs of the evidence and take them to police
How am I supposed to do that when I'm being jumped?
It wasn't 2013, there weren't such cool tools as $2 HD cameras the size of a penny. Even just holding the damn thing at any point would have been a ridiculous endeavor.
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>>33390136

Do you honestly think that 4chan's "anonymity" actually exists?

All your messages are logged. This site is submitted on a plain text web protocol. If I honestly got bored enough, someone could troll for your address and with a little bit of work, end up putting the pieces together to make a plausible idea of who you are.
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>>33390182
>Someone

The only people that can see IPs in any way are people with moderator access. Have fun cracking that one, skiddie.
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>>33390163
well not if youre being jumped, but if someone leaves a photoshopped pic of you guzzlin' a cock on your locker, take it to the police.
and if you get jumped, go to the police and say you were assaulted. they'll photograph your bruises and shit
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>>33390182

I just finished making a GUI in Visual Basic to do just that. I'm tracking everyone in this thread.
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>>33390115
*paranoid response calling you a jewish shill*
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>>33390156
I'm not familiar with US law, but aren't fines the worst things you'd have to worry about, along with an official, "apology" in the case of libel?
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>>33390197
>implying that I or someone I know doesn't know a moderator here, or that an entity like the police would submit a warrant for the addresses and moot would flop like a bitch and give you up in a heart beat.

You must be new here.
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>>33390201
>they'll photograph your bruises and shit
Not all physical abuse leaves bruising. Strangling, choking, punching in some areas, use of calculated force, keeping a desk pushed into people's stomachs and what not won't show any proof.
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>>33390241
moderators do not have access to IP addresses.
only server admins.
Good luck social engineering Moot
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>>33390239
$500k fines aren't exactly jokes, you know.
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>>33390182
no, but it's soft anonymity
as opposed to something like tor/vpn that doesn't keep logs or invoices, hard anonymity
and even that's arguably not anonymous, if a power has complete monitoring power
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As a victim of physical and verbal/emotional bullying my entire life until I left the public education system (so 13 odd years, right through puberty/teenage years), I say fuck them. My right to freedom of speech (even if it is shit talking drivel) is more important than your bitch tears, and if you're so weak you let other people's words hurt you, well then maybe you *should* off yourself.
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>>33390273

Get the fuck away from my garbage file.
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>>33390288
Anyone that ever contemplates suicide should probably kill themselves: they're not worthy of the resources wasted on them.
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>>33390266
That would only be if someone like NBC panned some random guy as a pedophile murderer and gave everyone his name, address, phone number, blood type, etc. when he had nothing to due with the crimes, right? Or even if he didn't since ruining someone's reputation like that is a crime right?
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>>33390326
Not quite, everyone has their moments of weakness. I harbour no sorrow for those who go through with it though.
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Cyberbullying is a fucking joke.

If someone kills themselves over some pussy fucking comment about them then good. We're overpopulated anyway.

I support cyberbullying.

Natural selection at its fucking finest moment.
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>>33390252
then you're outta luck unless you can somehow prove they did something to you.
I lived in a group home for a year and this blonde kid was being a right cunt to me every single day. One day,he gave me a little hit on the arm which left a little red mark, which i responded to with a nice fist to the head. I jumped up shouting WHAT THE FUCK MAN, WHY DID YOU HIT ME? Got a supervisor to get a pic of my arm, and then asked me if I wanted to file charges.

In todays age with cameras everywhere, if you're smart enough, you can fuck people into this sort of thing.
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>>33390341
>That would only be if someone like NBC panned some random guy as a pedophile murderer

Sounds kind of familiar.
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>>33390348
This. Tell them to fuck right off or just close the fucking browser.
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>>33390341
still, a $10k fine will make you think twice before smack talking your peers in a public forum
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>>33390182
It works on an honor system.

who would care who any of us are anyway.
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>>33390350
This. Work smarter, not harder. Lure those morons into your trap, and bully them in a more legitimate way.
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>>33390341
No, something as simple as someone pretending some high-profile businessman stole money/embezzled people/is a pedophile. The name is enough info for a $500k+ fine.
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>>33390326
Not exactly. It's like >>33390344 said. Sometimes we get hit at our lowerst points and it just seems like the best idea at the moment. But the people who continue to mope around and expect people to pity them and fix their problems for them, those are the people that should go and stop wasting resources.
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>>33390348
Yeah, I'm glad alan turing died too. Emotionally weak faggot manlets don't deserve to live in this hard ass world and have nothing to contribute to our hard ass species. He could have fucking ignored it, brah. If you can't brush shit off, kill yourself.

Survival of the badass, brotato. We should get kids pets and kill them just to harden them the fuck up. Like REAL MEN.
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>>33390365
I just heard a story on CBC radio today about how "leddit formally apologized for stickin the wrong guy"
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>>33390348

So if you sent a picture to one of your lovers and she/he/it decides to take revenge and proliferate them on the internet, give up your location in real life, get you fired from your job, are you honestly going to be okay with that?

I highly doubt it. You're no different than rape apologists who coo and crow that people who wear shorts deserve to be raped.
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>>33390182
>This site is submitted on a plain text web protocol.
4chan supports https now.
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talking smack is not cyberbullying
following a person around and trying your hardest to remind them of every personal failing and tragedy is
doxing a person and bringing it into their real life is

you're safe unless you're a /b/ faggot.
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>>33390395
I heard they were afraid of leaving their homes, what a bunch of pussies.
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doesn't calling somebody a faggot online fall under freedom of speech or something?
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>>33390400
apply appropriate harassment laws, nothing cyber about it.
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>>33390400
>implying that's bullying
Nice strawman (?) though.
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>>33390394
>taking it to the extreme opposite.

Turing killed himself after being forced to undergo what people would today call "imprisonment and torture"

that said, the guy you're replying to is just being edgy
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>>33390400
>So if you sent a picture to one of your lovers and she/he/it decides to take revenge and proliferate them on the internet, give up your location in real life, get you fired from your job, are you honestly going to be okay with that?

That is not particularly specific to the internet, and already covered by a huge number of existing laws, including wrongful dismissal for the firing.
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>>33390433
nope.
That's a hate crime now.

go directly to jail, do not collect 200 dollars.
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>>33390350
Unfortunately that's not going to magically help me through my bullying 17 years ago.
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>>33390394
Completely different, he was subjugated by the legal system. If he had killed himself because some kids were calling him mean names because he liked men, then yes, he is a weak faggot. He had the option of fucking chemical castration, completely barbaric shit, not quite on the same level as "bullying".
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>>33390433
Yes, you can call people niggers, faggots, degenerates, kikes, gooks, chinks, goons, whiteys, crackers, pale niggers, jews 2.0, bloodthirsty sheepfuckers, and drunken dickheads whenever and wherever you want and it is perfectly legal. It's not a hate crime in itself, and it's not harassment in itself.

Unless you live in the UK.
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>>33390395
You and my dad are the only people I know who listen to CBC radio, what program?
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>>33390432
>I heard they were afraid of leaving their homes
Those fucking morons publicly and widely accused them of terrorism, it's not crazy to suggest that some retard would have pulled a gun on them.
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Why did suicide somehow became acceptable? The fag killing himself is always at fault, no exceptions.
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>>33390408
there's still a log on the server linking you to that post
no one knows when moot rotates logs
soft anonymity, versus hard where there's no IP link and the only way your identify is divulged is you give them enough breadcrumbs

that is, unless, the agency trying to figure out who you are can mathematically identify you by monitoring all traffic, everywhere

that's at least how I understand it
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>>33390449
>That is not particularly specific to the internet

It was done ON the internet. That's the point.

>and already covered by a huge number of existing laws

These laws don't work if the person perpetrating the crime against you is unknown.

>including wrongful dismissal for the firing.

That'll be you who have to prove that. Employers are pretty good at getting race-based firing covered up in legal reasons.
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Missouri reporting.

Already been passed.

http://www.ibls.com/internet_law_news_portal_view.aspx?id=2095&s=latestnews

As long as you don't do it publicly over fagbook or twitter, they won't possibly care

they also won't care unless the person that killed themself is a beautiful girl, fat girls and boys won't even make the obituaries
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Suicide is illegal.
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>>33390400

Not the same thing.

Secondly, the suicide "victims" who are only actually victims of stupid comments and retarded trend hiveminds, are treated as brave little fucking heroes. They get a shitload of attention and in a weird way, it inspires other faggots. It's bad and good at the same time in that sense.

in the sense of what you're talking about, that's like, worse than fucking blackmail.
Not petty-ass cyber bullying, or at least what cyberbullying is always referencing.
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>>33390521
>These laws don't work if the person perpetrating the crime against you is unknown.

And they never will.
Anonymity is anonymity for a reason.
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>>33390547
>thinking you can be completely anonymous on the internet, on a tech board no less

I wonder if you've been submitting your responses in plain text.
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>>33390576
I do believe 4chan uses https as a standared now.
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>>33390537
hurr
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>>33390528
>previous laws didnt cover harassment if they were conducted over the telephone, and now, the internet

Why?
What if i sent you shit over telegram? Are there laws about that?
Smoke signals?
Flag Smaphore?
8 bit binary?

Why not just ammend the current law to include every possible means of communication?
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>>33390521
>It was done ON the internet. That's the point.
As many people have already told you, this is something which can happen through a number of different mediums, which makes it a shitty example.

>These laws don't work if the person perpetrating the crime against you is unknown.
Except that the vast majority of retards cannot into proxy, and even then it only takes one mistake to get caught. Not to mention that in your example the perpetrator would be obvious.
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>>33390596
no, it does not
and even if it did, that wouldn't mean you have complete fucking anonymity
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>>33390611
>he was sending me death threats with his thoughts
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>>33390576
do you realize the purpose of https? hint, it's not to hide the text of your comment which you intend to show to everybody who want to read it
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>>33390627
Well everytime I get on 4chan on any board it defaults to https.
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>>33390576
>implying the feds are going to be able to catch me through Tor, or even fucking HTTPS

While true anonymity does not really exist, there are limits to what people are capable of doing.

Just like how truely encrypting something isnt really possible, you probably arent going to decrypt my AES-Twofish-Serpect CP folder
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>>33390639
>That feel when you get the death penalty for looking at some grill in a way she doesn't like
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>>33390660
>thinking https provides complete anonymity

Holy fuck, retards pls go.
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>>33390676
>truely encrypting something isnt really possible
>what are one-time-passes
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>>33390676
https doesn't stop a fucking warrant from requestion your IP that's linked to the post
tor/anonymous vpns do
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>>33390733
Tor and VPNs don't either.

>muh mitm attack.
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>>33390745
So the retards I've been arguing with show their true colors
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>>33390745
if you're getting hit by a MITM, they already know who you are.
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>>33390974
I'm pretty sure tor is meant to prevent that. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>33391006
Tor can prevent attacks between your ISP sending out packets and your destination.
But if someone has access to your router/modem/ISP, tor aint doin much.
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>>33391037
>But if someone has access to your router/modem/ISP, tor aint doin much.

And I believe to be on any network these days, especially in the US, you have to register a modem with them.
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>>33390079
You do realize that she had nothing to do with that one guy getting fired right? She also didn't think he should have gotten fired.
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>>33390974
Correct
Or they're a fucking huge NSA-tier organization with full monitoring power
VPN prevents MITM's through certificates
The most conceivable way to identify someone through these methods is what >>33391037 said combined with cross-referencing times of posts and tor access
Which is why people recommend running your tor all the time
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>>33390228
Track me, motherfucker.

I dare you, I double dare you.
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>>33391125
>VPN prevents MITM's through certificates

Certificates can be faked though.
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>>33389479
I remember the first time I pissed someone off by winning in an online game. They told me they were going to track my IP address, come to my house, and murder me and my family.

I am 19. I was 12 when I received this threat. I still await their arrival.
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>>33391460
>anon dies in what looks like a bizarre case in which the killer took about several years compiling a program on his leenux jantwo operating system to track anon down.
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>>33391332
if the client doesn't verify the certificate, sure
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>>33389767
>I see a lot of bullying as the "entrance exam" to real life. If you cant learn to deal with shitheads in middle school, you're not going to be able to deal with people who have actual power over you.

Problem is humans tend to intentionally ignore the fact that mental health is just as serious as physical health until someone commits suicide.
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>>33391460
>I am 19. I was 12 when I received this threat
lol, people actually remember those threats for years
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>>33390547
Anonymity means the person can't speak but you still know who he is. you can still put him in jail
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>>33391580
It was more comical to me than anything else, which is why I remember it.

I told him he didn't know how to track an IP address, and that I wouldn't believe he did until he told me how. He ragequit after I asked him to tell me how.

My point is that it was my first of many. And even then, at age 12, I realized that a stranger on the internet can say whatever they want and can't do shit.
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>It's a real problem
Stopped reading right there
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>>33390703
>>33390676
its one time pad

and "encryption" is "truely" possible with AES. I think you mean information-theoretic secure, in which the only way to know the information contained is to have the key.

One time pads make this possible but are highly impractical since the key size is the same as the data you're encrypting. So if you want to encrypt your 1tb CP folder you must also find a place to store your 1tb key...
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>>33391824
Yes, Im talking about theoretical security.
Even a one time pad can be bruteforced.
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>>33389925
was quite the opposite in my case
was running away from a spoiled brat (or chasing him, because he took my stuff, dont remember).
He tripped down the stairs at full speed, broke/damaged his arm or something.
An entire hallway of witnesses
Spoiled brat got expelled
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>>33390467
Well then you shouldn't have been such a stupid pussy 17 years ago.
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>>33391914
No, they can't. Each character is encrypted using modular addition, meaning that the only information you have from the ciphertext is the length of the message. Which means that, without the key, any message with the same length is equally as valid as any other.

Sure, the police could just guess that an encrypted drive contains CP and fill up a folder with kiddie pics to match the size of the encrypted data they have, but it would be just as valid as a folder filled with pirated games or cat pictures.
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>>33392030
ah. I didnt realize it worked like that.
Neat.
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>>33389633
This.

America is a babby country. Who gives a shit if people take their lives?

What they did was the easy way out, I'm not going to give my pity on those who can't survive.

It's called survival of the fittest. Humans developed brains to think of ways to survive, even on this new world.
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>>33389972
Good thing I've been trying out my sniper skills. I'd take out that bully in front of other people while walking out of school.

If I would have a child, or a sniper, or a life.

Then it was all a dream.


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04/28/13(Sun)18:11 No.33389972
Anonymous 04/28/13(Sun)18:11 No.33389972
>>33389862
>your kid makes a stand and beats up the bully
>he consequently gets kicked out of the school system
>bully's mom files assault charges on your kid and makes it look like your kid is a psychopath who resorts to violence to solve his problems
>CPS may end up getting involved because they suspect that you're a neglectful parent