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So, what's all that about google botnet? Is it just a meme? I mean they don't actually use your pc for shit, and if they personalize ads- well, so does everybody else, deal with it. If you so care about your privacy(and who the fuck needs information about how often you masturbate to your infantile cartoons anyway) then you obviously have to take active measures since even with something like links many sites will still try to datamine you or use cookie tricks.

Never understood that shit. Then again i use firefox because chrome is actually slower with many tabs and lacks good extensions.
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>>31367870 (OP)

You know nothing.
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>>31367895
Enlighten me, o mighty namefaggot.
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>>31367870 (OP)

>then you obviously have to take active measures.

I do.
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>>31367907

die.
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This is a tired old thread and nothing new will come from it.
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>>31367923
>barking namefag
oh wow
>>31367933
I just never understood why the fuck /g/ starts throwing the word "botnet" around as soon as it comes to google anything. It's like it's the only flaw. Is that some clever troll-marketing, or what.
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>>31367870 (OP)

echo ads.google.com >> C:\windows32\drivers\etc\hosts
(whatever the domain is)

it takes one second
thats less typing than this whole faggin conversation
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FUCK GOOGLE
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buming in hopes of seeing post made by someone without autism
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>>31368418
It aggressively autoupdates and tethers your usage data to an account with your name on it, and keep in mind this is a company who uses you to earn their revenue.

Its not an actual botnet, but it's a little invasive
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>>31368458
I wouldn't mind it updating automatically in the background.

Honestly, I prefer it that way as it's less intrusive.
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>>31368418
if they at least asked first, it wouldn't be this big a deal
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>>31368458
the omnibox sends all your input to google
all of it
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>>31368476
And that's a fair point but at the same time it necessitates that Chrome dials home every 30 mins or so and then strawman
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>>31368458
Every free service relies on harvesting user data. But the good thing about Google is that the ad targeting is in-house so the data doesn't change hands.
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>>31368502
most ppl don't care. I use IE and I enabled that cause it's just so convenient. I doubt google is maintaining a log of IP query pairs anyway
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>>31368532
>I doubt google is maintaining a log of IP query pairs anyway
You'd be surprised then.
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>>31368479
This
Although I think they have every right to monitor what you do with their program. It really is as simple as "If you dont like it, dont use it"
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I hope all the faggots that go on about Google Botnet use cash only, because big businesses are known to store your name and card after use, which then goes into a database and all of your purchases are known to them.
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>>31368775
while that is true, the point still stands they don't ask permission
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>>31368795
1) I do use cash only
2) they shouldn't be doing that either
just because one group is doing something wrong doesn't mean it's suddenly okay for everyone else to do so too
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>>31368805
>not reading anything
They DO ask you permission. You have to agree to their terms of service before installing the programs.
If you have Windows 7 then it can't do shit without you saying "Yes Google Chrome is allowed to do this". If you have a firewall you normally have to allow it on that too.
Just because you never bother to read anything doesn't mean that what you should have read doesn't exist.
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>>31368521
/thread
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>>31368822
They don't do that. Nobody here has any good proof that Google is doing this. They just think that because your address bar is your search bar and it gives you results (like Firefox's search bar) that means Google knows every bit of information about you when they are really just getting the address you are going to, giving you results, then discarding it.
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>>31368521
>the data doesn't change hands.
You know google sells data to the government, right?
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>>31368805
Its in the EULA you agree to when you download it.
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>>31368890
Do you have proof of this?
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>>31368845
>>31368894
that's assuming people actually read the terms of service
yes, people should read that, but the fact it they don't
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>>31368890
>sells

that's not how the gov't works, son
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>>31368914
their loss
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>>31368873
http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/privacy.html
> When you type URLs or queries in the Chrome address bar (omnibox), the letters you type may be sent to your default search engine, so that the search engine’s prediction feature can automatically recommend terms or URLs you may be looking for. If you accept a predicted query or URL, Chrome may send that information from the browser to your default search engine as well.
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>>31368914
Then its their own fucking fault and they shouldnt be like this retard
>>31368805
>>31368479

Hey we're going to monitor and collect all your data.
Alright

HEY WAIT WHY ARE YOU COLLECTING ALL OF MY DATA WTF!?!?!?
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Off topic but I've got to get this out there.

>friend likes to think she is computer savvy
>uses malwarebytes and microsoft security essentials
>some 'trial' service comes with our internet
>she installs it and does the trial even though she has no use for it
>trial time is almost up and she finds out she can't cancel because it's a scam
>google them a bit and find out the program was most likely a virus
>she installed a virus for literally no fucking reason

My friend is a retard when it comes to computers. Now I have to tell her she probably has a keylogger on her computer and deal with that drama.
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>>31368900
http://readwrite.com/2011/10/25/google_releases_data_about_gov
http://adage.com/article/dataworks/google-twitter-data-privacy-day-blame-government/239449/

I know these aren't big-name sources, but the fact of the matter is is that Google does do it.
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>>31368934
so we should just let people remain ignorant and give away their privacy like candy?
no, i'm not selfish enough to ignore their mistakes
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>>31368972
What makes it better is the dumbass loves wasting money and she has been using the account of hers with almost all of her money despite me telling her to stop. So there is a possibility she could lose a ton of money~
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>>31368969
the point is, they shouldn't be doing this in the first place
>hey, i'm gonna kill you
>alright
>HEY WAIT, WHY ARE YOU KILLING ME WTF!?!?!?
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>>31368943
So I was right. They do nothing more than know the URL.
So if I type in "www.face" it sends the that to Google and they show me "www.facebook.com" and I click it and they may know that I went to www.facebook.com.
This happens to any search engine you use on Google Chrome as well, so it may not be Google.
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>>31369010
Except you have the ability to say no to them killing you if you actually listened to the person saying "I'm going to kill you"
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>>31369015
they don't know "JOE" searched "LOLI PORN"
they know user "292v8v493s0a" searched "LOLI PO", when given auto-complete "PORN" chose that
it's not specifically personal, but close enough
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>>31368990
Oh no, Google knows people visit sites like Yahoo or MSN, how horrible! It's not like that's a function you can disable by changing your default browser (>>31369015)
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Your mom is a botnet
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>>31369048
And what makes people think that Google cares about them out of the millions of searches and auto-completions made daily?
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>>31369031
should they be allowed to do so in the first place? no. that is a main point of this problem
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>>31369048
If the user 'syncs' their Google account with Chrome that will probably be sent. IP address will almost defiantly be recorded, that can be used to link up users.
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>>31369061
Yes. What you search is sent over the network to their servers and they process it. That's how search engines work. If you don't like it change your default browser so someone else like Microsoft knows what you search.
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>>31369050
the idea of not asking permission when it send info is a problem too
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>>31369072
But you have to go through extra effort to do that. Anyone who does that and complains is an idiot.
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>>31369060
They probably won't care about it, people are getting upset over the fact they have the data though.
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>>31369060
it's not a matter of personalisation, just an invasion of general privacy
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>>31367870 (OP)
ie8/9/10 botnet and so is windows all versions
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>>31369091
>>31369099
See >>31369083
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>>31369092
It takes 0 effort to link your searches up to an account if you have one.
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>>31369115
When I open Google Chrome it asks me if I want to log in. I don't have to and my email and password is long. I don't wish to log in because it's too much effort.
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>>31369129
What is unique identifier for your computer
What is IP address
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>>31369083
and again, you people ignore any points made earlier or just ignore them
while it is their program, going over their servers, the recording of information is not explicitly stated unless you look for it
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>>31369061
The killing example is fallacious because murder is illegal
A more appropriate analogy would be:
Someone offering free self portrait photographs
You say sure I want one
He gives you a contract that specifies hes going to use the pictures in an art display that may or may not make him money
you dont read and sign anyway
then you get mad
nothing illegal has occured
You just didnt read a contract
whether or not you think its right that he has the ability to use the picture is your personal belief.
If you dont like datamining then start the political process to outlaw it
Protip: your congressmen and women are shitty and be bribed to not conduct their job
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>>31369146
An IP address isn't unique to your computer.
Are you sure you know how networking works?
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>>31369160
Not saying that the IP address is unique to your computer, but Chrome probably will generate and send a unique identifier for your machine with the data.

If you have signed in with your google account but haven't linked it, they have your IP address, they can link searches even if you haven't 'synced' your account with Chrome because of this.
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>>31369153
Why shouldn't they have the right to store information sent to them? Did you know when you visit 4chan everything you download is being stored in the web server's logs? Did you also know that there is nothing on the 4chan site saying that it is doing this, or asking if you it's okay for you to do this?
Google is being nice by telling you.
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>>31369153
It is explicitly stated and it's thrown right in your face during install except everyone just clicks next.

Of course they full expect people to not read it but that's another matter.
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>>31369153
explicitly is a relative term.
Its in plain, readable font.
You dont have to click a link to get to it, its right there
Thats pretty explicit to me.
You, and the masses of sheeple, are just too lazy to read, as hilarious as that sounds, and now youre suffering for it.
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>>31369154
the legality of google's actions are like most legal cases, a manipulation of wording to cover their asses and do what they want
any one stupid enough to think a single act of omission (not readiing) means they can do whatever the fuck they want with your privacy is exactly the kind of person privacy laws are supposed to protect.
but naturally, you think because it's "legal" it's okay
it's not
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>>31369183
>Did you also know that there is nothing on the 4chan site saying that it is doing this, or asking if you it's okay for you to do this?

I think it should become a law that webpages and chat and anything that has you send information informs you what they store and how long. It could be something at the bottom of a page much like a copyright noticed.

>4chan.org may keep a log of your post and associated IP for up to 1 month.
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>>31369188
>>31369208

>>31369219
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>>31369223
Nobody should have to do that. Sometimes people don't clear their logs.
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>>31369223
If that was a law what would happen to every website that didn't do it (50% or more of all websites)? A lot of websites aren't updated any more.
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>>31369219
I can understand what you are saying.
It sounds like you disagree with that law, not google.
You should really specify that.
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>>31369261
That all depends where they are hosted and if anyone cares enough to make a case of it. Which is unlikely for websites that are never updated anymore.
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>>31369247
So? They should clear their logs or simply mention they keep logs indefinitely.
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>>31369289
>>31369304
So why make a law that has no use then?
Also, is it just IP addresses? Apache tends to keep logs of your IP, what time it received the HTTP request, POST or GET, what URL they visited, and 4chan also keeps images on it's servers.
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>>31369270
well, google uses that law
yes, i disagree with that and similar laws
but this is a google-botnet thread, so i'm specifying google, not the law in general
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Firefox does search suggestions too you faggots.
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So what I got from this thread is that Google stores information like any other search engine and /g/ is just a bunch of paranoid people
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>>31369465
What do you look like?
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>>31369489
Not tied to anything, you faggot.
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>>31369498
I have a screenshot somewhere of Firefox trying to connect to Google because of search suggestions. If I can find it I will show you, but how do you think search suggestions from Google populate on Firefox? From any company that's not Google?
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>>31369492
Am I logged into Iceweasel? Does DDG somehow store my searches? Do they associate these searches with me as a person?

No. Seems like the only faggot here is you.
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>>31369498
It works the exact same way. The stuff you are typing in gets sent to the search engine which provides you suggestions.
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>>31369526
That's why I don't use Google at all you fuck.
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>>31369492
It's more like /g/ has a large amount of parrots who see something repeated enough start repeating it themselves and even start to believe it.
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>>31369531
Storing information has nothing to do with being a "botnet."
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>>31369538
see >>31369531

You are retarded if you don't see the difference.

Besides I don't even use search suggestions, no one knows what I've searched for, I encrypt my history and my profile.
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>>31369531
Am I logged on to Chrome? Does DDG not work on chrome?

No. No. It's the same level of security you neckbearded douchelord. Also has the added benefit of not having an unresponsive UI.
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>>31369493
umm, white male, pale skin, (natural) red long-ish hair, big nose, skinny
why?
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>>31369571
There is no difference. The data gets sent to the search engine in the exact same way in both browsers. Google search suggestions in Firefox operate no different than search suggestions in Chrome.
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>>31369567
Of course, that's just a meme on /g/.

Doesn't change the fact that Google has tied your name to various "loli porn" searches and knows more about you than you do.

It's worse than botnet.
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>>31369582
I think youre me
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>>31369531
>Am I logged into Iceweasel?
Do you need to be logged into Chrome? No. You can log into Firefox's syncing tool too.

>Does DDG somehow store my searches?
Do you really think a site that acts as a proxy to Google doesn't send information to Google? It knows what you search still.

>Do they associate these searches with me as a person?
Do you know for a fact that Google stores this information per-computer, or in your case per-human?

And see >>31369567. Storing information does not make it a botnet, otherwise every program that stores something is a botnet.
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>>31369589
Your ISP has even more information about you.
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>>31369572
But Chrome is less functional than Firefox and still spies on you. Plus it can't be customized for shit and is non-free software. I'd also bet that you actually are logged into Chrome.
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>>31369608
No shit. That's how they bill you.
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>>31369492
Google is an American company and thus by law datamined by the three letter agencies. Now is that bad or good, is another question, but to state "tinfoil" is pretty banal to me, as it would be the contrary, say "tinfoil much" to these people who have no grasp how the world and the current super powers conduct their businesses.
Todays currency is data and to the highest bidder it goes, disclaimer: coercion may be involved.
Good day to you sir.
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>>31369595
huh.
i guess you're incredibly sexy too
(at least i think im sexy. other people don't think so ( ; _ ;)
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>>31369613
>Chrome is less functional than Firefox
Say that to it's HTML5 support

>and still spies on you
What if your proof? That it sends information to Google on what you search because that's how search engines work? Every networked application spies on you then.

>Plus it can't be customized for shit and is non-free software
It can be customized, and if you feel like free software is so damn important to your life use Chromium.
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>>31369588
You're an imbecile.

Chrome:
>every click and search sent to Google REGARDLESS of what you use as a search engine
>tied to you as a person, available to the court or to the highest bidder

FF:
>nothing sent to anyone because no search suggestions nor logging in
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>>31369613
I'm not logged on to Chrome. It's an option for those who want it. Firefox has a sync feature as well. FF is more customizable but the performance is so inferior it's not worth it.
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>>31369658
>>every click and search sent to Google REGARDLESS of what you use as a search engine
>>tied to you as a person, available to the court or to the highest bidder
And you called that guy an imbecile? It only sends what you search and type in the address bar. Even though it does that you can DISABLE IT.
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>>31369658
>every click and search sent to Google REGARDLESS of what you use as a search engine

source plz. Oh wait, there is no proof because this is a made up lie neckbeards invented to justify their continued use of an inferior browser and boost their sense of security.
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>>31369658
>2013
>being certifiably retarded.
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>>31369624
No its alright they just dont admit it cause they already assume you have a qtgf and dont want to be rejected
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>>31369600
>Do you need to be logged into Chrome? No.
It still gets sent to Google, which logs your IP and can find out who you are.

>You can log into Firefox's syncing tool too.
To sync your bookmarks. Does it send all your information to a corporation that then sells it? No. FF is open source.

>Do you really think a site that acts as a proxy to Google doesn't send information to Google? It knows what you search still.
But it doesn't. Read something you mongoloid, it does not act as a proxy at all, and even when you tell it to, it doesn't store ANY information about you.

>Do you know for a fact that Google stores this information per-computer, or in your case per-human?
GC is not open source, so you can't know that. And they're getting sued over in Europe for associating the info with you as a person, so no, your "fact" is wrong.

>And see >>31369567
You see >>31369589
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>>31369719
ah yes, of course
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>>31369015
>Oh noes, they know I've searched Facebook on THEIR search engine, they know I'm going to Facebook!
>Better switch to Yahoo! or Bing, pretty sure that when I search in their engine, I'm not actually sending any data and the server magically knows what I wanted to search and who am I to forward the search results to my computer. Also, pretty sure they have a really nice search engine because they don't do location-based statistics.
>But wait! An automated service is also scanning my mails and they show me ads that may be simmilar to my interests! I'm forced to click them! And that machine is going to fap to my sexting!
>Well, no I've changed my email address to a Yahoo one and I started using Yahoo as my search engine. But wait, if I go to Facebook, then Facebook will know I'm going to Facebook! Better go to 4chan! BUT WAIT, 4CHAN KNOWS I'M VISITING 4CHAN.

tl;dr If you complain about every bit of your privacy, use only Tor to browse the web or 7 proxies.
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>>31369722
Of course it gets sent to Google, that's how every search engine works. It can't give you a list of results without getting your query first.

If you're really concerned about yuh privacy, disable search suggestions, malware blocking, dns prefetching etc and just use DDG on Chrome. There is no need to be putting up with Firefox's clunky, slow UI in 2013.
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>>31369722
>It still gets sent to Google, which logs your IP and can find out who you are.
IP addresses aren't only for one person. The most Google knows is that I'm using that IP, and I could be using a proxy or it may not be my IP.

>To sync your bookmarks. Does it send all your information to a corporation that then sells it? No. FF is open source.
Source that Google sells your information? Oh wait, there is none that is true.

>But it doesn't. Read something you mongoloid, it does not act as a proxy at all, and even when you tell it to, it doesn't store ANY information about you.
You are right there. I must have mistaken it for another search engine.

>GC is not open source, so you can't know that. And they're getting sued over in Europe for associating the info with you as a person, so no, your "fact" is wrong.
Chromium is open source. And how do they associate data with you as a person? It's impossible unless you logged in with your Google account, which is not required and not automatic.

>You see >>31369589
Look at what I said above. How does it tie with you as a person? It can't perform magic.
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>>31369795
Exactly. I distrust Google as much as most of the people here but Chrome is just a superior browser.
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>>31369821
wouldn't you rather have the superior browser without the distrust?
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>>31369849
Yeah. It doesn't exist. Firefox is slower than Chrome. Right now I'm using Chromium to feel better about myself.
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>>31369649
>it can be customized
Clearly you don't know what customization is.

And no, I repeat: Google associates everything you do with your fucking name and IP address. It's in their fucking EULA, that's my fucking proof, read it, fucker.

FF stores NOT A SINGLE GOD DAMN THING. Neither does DDG, which, by your definition, is not a search engine.

It's funny, you have no experience with browsers nor networking and yet you proudly vouch for a big corporation entrusting it with your private life.
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>>31369880
>it doesn't exist
neither did cars
now they're fucking everywhere
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>>31369896
Use Chrome. Don't login. Don't use Google for search.

Then Google will get exactly the same amount of info out of you as if you were using FF. Bonus is that you don't have to use a shit browser.
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>>31369664
>Firefox has a sync feature as well
So? It only serves one and only one purpose: to sync your bookmarks and settings. I know this because I've looked at the source code.

Did you look at GC source code to see that it isn't spying on you? Didn't think so.

Luckily, smarter people have inspected the network traffic and read the EULA for you, so you can safely continue using your favorite 564325-process browser knowing you're being spied upon.
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>>31369680
You saw the source code to make sure?
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>>31369489
By default Firefox is no better than Chrome that's true.
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>>31369783
>Firefox's clunky, slow UI
But FF is better on Chrome.

>implying I have not disabled search suggestions
>implying I'm not already using DDG
>being too retarded to see the difference between "X Y searched for 'Loli Porn', lets sell it to his employer" and "X Y searched for 'loli porn', lets serve him his page and forget about it".
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>>31369937
Wait, Firefox sends your bookmarks and settings to their server? Sounds like a botnet to me! They know muh bookmarks! Doesn't sound like privacy to me.

Yes I have personally inspected every line of Chromium source code to verify it is free of privacy issues, as I suppose you have done with FF. Enjoy your slow browser in 2013. Let's face it, you started using FF in the IE6 days and don't want to admit its time has passed. It's been shit ever since V4.
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>>31367870 (OP)
if I owned google, I would wait till I had everyone was connected and trusted us, and then, as I entered into senility, abuse the shit out of my companies power, and become the super villain the world wants.
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>>31369987
The search suggestions gets sent to Google in exactly the same way in FF as in Chrome. There is absolutely no difference. Same goes for IE, Opera or whatever. If you're getting search suggestions, Google is getting what you typed in.
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>>31369937
>>31369945
>Download Chromium
>Look at all the fucking lines of code it has
>Use Chromium

Congratulations, now you have Google Chrome without Google on its name. You have a superior browser than FF and it's also open source.
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>>31369991
Currently using the sync feature and syncing to my private server. Clearly that's invading my privacy!

>I have personally inspected every line of Chromium source code to verify it is free of privacy issues, as I suppose you have done with FF
>2013
>still not understanding how open source works

I don't need to read and understand every line of the Linux kernel to be sure it doesn't sync with Microsoft in secret. Thankfully, it is open source, so there are thousands of people who did that for me.

Chromium != Google Chrome. Google adds their spyware to Chromium, along with other things, and markets it.
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>>31370056
>Currently using the sync feature and syncing to my private server. Clearly that's invading my privacy!
But wait! Are you using your own ISP? Because they can know when and what are you sending to your own server!
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>>31370056
Chromium has search suggestions enabled by default as well. News flash: they operate the exact same way. You can also login to Google from Chromium. IT'S THE SAME THING.

Chrome adds built in flash, auto updates and pdf viewing. That's it.
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>>31370036
That is factually incorrect according to Google Chrome EULA. You're bullshitting right there.

>implying it's just the search suggestions, not your search queries and personal data you store on other Google Services
>implying they aren't storing absolutely everything because closed source and trade secret

>Chrome
>not a botnet

>2013
>being retarded on /g/
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>>31370091
They also have your name and know where you live! The internet is a botnet!
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>>31370091
That's great because in this third world country ISPs don't give a shit.

Google's main source of revenue is your own personal information.

Sucks to be you I guess.
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>>31370101
They store those things for everybody logged into Google with their Google account regardless of the browser. This has nothing to do with Chrome. Chrome doesn't enable Google to store your search history or your data on Google services.
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>>31370093
How do you know that? Have you inspected Chrome source code and compared it to Chromium's? Has your friend done that for you?

No!

Because you simply >>can't fucking know<<.
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>>31370114
>implying they actually don't give a shit
Have you read their EULA?
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>>31370104
>samefagging

getting desperate Google shills
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>>31370136
Whose EULA?
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>>31370148
Microsoft
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>>31370148
Your ISP's.
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>>31370130
So we just assume that Chrome does all these nefarious things without a shred of evidence? Why not do the same for all other closed source browsers or software? Opera is a botnet!
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>>31370162
I've read the contract, yes. I know they store everything for a month. I'm not concerned however, as it would be illegal to show it to anyone without court order.
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>>31370139
>living in reality and not tin foil hat oppressed neckbeard fantasyland = being a shill
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>>31370172
Surely they wouldn't break the law. Only an evil company like Google would do that, right?
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>>31370179
>advocating for a corporation that sells your personal details
>hating privacy
>not using open source software
>not using a technically superior, more customizable and extensible browser with better support and less bugs

Enjoy your plebness I guess.
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>>31370168
>Why not do the same for all other closed source browsers or software?

It's like you've never been on /g/.
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>>31370200
You pay your ISP. It's in their interest not to screw you over. On the other hand you only cost Google money by using their services unless they data mine the fuck out of you.
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>>31370168
but, see, chrome is the only browser built by an internet advertising company. think.
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>>31370200
Google is actively selling your information, it's not breaking the law, it's their main source of revenue. My ISP gets their money directly for my pocket, and I personally know some of their admins. They're pretty small too. Why in the world would they sell my packets?

Although Google was breaking the law for combining all data into a single named profile of their users at one point in Europe (you know the place where politicians try to appeal to the people by fucking corporations and making them conform, also a place that doesn't really have such a strong copyright lobby).
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>>31370203
>thinking Firefox is technically superior to Chromium
>thinking Chromium isn't open source
>thinking FF is more private than Chromium
>calling others pleb

FF was good back in 2005. This is 2013, its day has come and gone. Firefox has been trying to copy Chrome since it came out, including the new "rapid release" cycle.
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I remember some time ago that Debian (I think it was Debian, it's been a long time since that) had some (no more than 5 files, I think) components that were closed-source, and people started complaining and using other distros because of "thu privacy", and that they were going to steal and monitor all their data.

Yes, tinfoils in a nutshell. better cut off your connection to the Internet, they will also "monitor and see" what you're sending through them.
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>>31370249
Muh customizibility, better features, and threads. Sorry FF is technically superior, but that isn't the course of discussion here. If you use Chromium I guess you're fine.
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dem google shills
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>>31370246
oh you're a Eurofaggot. That explains it.

Google sells your information, yes. Don't give them information you don't want them to have. It's really that simple. Firefox's default search engine is Google and has the exact same search suggestions enabled by default. If you login to your Google account under Firefox you're information will be tracked and stored EXACTLY THE SAME WAY as if you were using Chrome, IE, Opera or whatever. You can use Chrome or Chromium without using Google services or search.
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>>31370276
>thinking Mozilla and Google aren't in bed with eachother
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>>31370267
but the browser itself is shit

lol all flash placed in a single process lol
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>>31370255
>google isn't a botnet! I like the taste of their cock!
>no, see reasons x, y and z, they prove that Google is actively selling your information and thus is a threat to your privacy and freedom. You like privacy and freedom, don't you?
>NO I DON'T FUCK YOU TINFOILD FAGGIT

Oh wow
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>>31370255
Debian more like plebian
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>>31368795
Hey you all freedom hater fucktards. I'm just telling that I'm using mostly only cash, using ghostery add on to disable most cookies, all cookies are deleted when I close firefox and I dont have any extra information given on social networks. Also, maybe I should carry my cell phone with me only when expecting call.
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>>31370299
Google sells your information that you give to them. Using Chrome with suggestions disabled and a different search engine gives no more information to Google than any other browser.
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>>31370277
FF is open source. They have nothing to hide, and the source is regularly checked by the busy Debian maintainers.

Google Chrome is closed source. The story ends there. As they're an advertising company, it's same to assume that collecting everything about you and putting it in a profile they can sell is in their best interest.

Oh look! It's not even an assumption because they're getting sued over it in the Land of the Free.

>oh you're a Eurofaggot
Yes, at least my country isn't owned by corporations who do anything they want. Do you realize that it's now illegal to get convicted over copyright shit in the EU? Like, you can literally go into a police station and torrent a petabyte of MPAA endorsed data and they couldn't do a single fuck over it? Last time I check the USA was giving higher prison sentences to a kid who leaked some scientific papers and YOUR OWN FUCKING LAW into the public. Oh right, I remember, the MADE HIM FUCKING KILL HIMSELF. Holy shit, you live in a fucking police state.
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>>31370298
>flash
>implying multiple processes is a good thing
>implying you know anything about the technical implications or overhead of that
>implying threads aren't superior
>implying you aren't an idiot
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>>31370368
What overhead, we arent on PDP-11s anymore. but hey, if you want to use a browser where a single malfunctioning tab can lock the entire thing up then be my guest
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>>31370359
>Yes, at least my country isn't owned by corporations who do anything they want.

UKfag here

there are only 3 countries on this planet that arent controlled by a rothschild central bank

- iran
- north korea
- cuba

unless you live in one of those countries, your ass is owned by banks and corporations
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>>31370359
>lives in a 3rd world country
>using American technology to communicate with people across the world
>thinks being able to torrent ponies and CP is the definition of freedom

Yup, we're dealing with a stage 4 autist. Don't look into the light, anon.
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Seriously, who the fuck would searhc LOLI PORN in Google Chrome? WHO THE FUCK WOULD SEARCH THAT WITHOUT PROXIES?
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>>31370339
Also I'd like to add that I don't really have much to hide but its about principles. I wouldn't like to have someone fucking me behind while I'm asleep even though I wouldnt be aware of it.

Say no to exploiting, people. The corporations know people dont really like what they are doing, that's why they want to be quiet about it.
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>>31370421
>Europe
>3rd world
>Country
Pick one.
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The MUH PRIVACY circlejerk works because it allows losers to pretend to be important for the very loser shit they look up all day that makes them a loser in the first place.

It's nothing but a generic victim complex that literally anyone can apply to their lives.

Don't bother trying to change them, it's all they have - they will hold on to it very hard.
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>>31370437
>eastern europe
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>>31370404
And this happens all the time too. One website goes haywire and the whole browser locks up for 30 seconds. Doesn't happen on Chromium.

dat process per tab. Heck even IE has that.
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>>31370423
Haven't you noticed the shitstorm when Google increased the default safe search? It seems there's a huge amount of people who use Google to find their porn.
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>>31370443
fuckin NEETs shitting up my board
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>>31370446
It's still not a country, it's half a continent or a bunch of countries.
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>>31370404
>>31370448
>samefagging
>not knowing what threads are
>we have better computers now! it's ok to make under performing software

google shills always crack me up
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>>31370491
that wasn't me

I know what a thread is and FF doesn't even do that right either
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>>31370472
>>31370443
>literally not wanting privacy

get out
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>>31370480
>countries in eastern europe
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>google shills
/g/ gets worse by the hour
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>>31370510
Now this is correct.
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>>31370514
FF shill pls go
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>>31370523
s-sorry ;_;
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>>31370525
>FOSS shills
oh wow
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>>31370537
um yeah that exists
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>>31370503
I have the ultimate privacy. I don't use the internet at all and never talk to anybody. Nobody knows I exist and Google knows nothing about me.
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>>31370528
No problem Anon, it's okay.
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>>31370553
/thread
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>>31370545
And don't forget to buy our Debian PREMIERE PRO ENTERPRISE 7000 BITCHFUCK for just $99.99!
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>>31370577
>>31370553
>replying to yourself
>not seeing the difference between google knowing everything about you and selling it to everyone and simply using an open source program which doesn't track you
>being this stupid
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>>31370611
>Implying we're the same person
This tinfoil man.
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>>31370589
it's like you don't even know what shill means
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>>31370611
>thinking using Chrome means Google knows everything about you
>thinking Mozilla and Google aren't in bed (what's the default search on FF, again?)
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So let's recap:

Firefox default install:
>go to search for something
>what you type in the box gets sent to Google
>they give you suggestions back
>if you're logged into your Google account your query gets saved

Chrome default install:
>go to search for something
>what you type in the box gets sent to Google
>they give you suggestions back
>if you're logged into your Google account your query gets saved
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>>31370689
no, FF has a separate search field
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>>31370720
which by default sends what you typed to Google to get suggestions exactly like Chrome does. Whether it's a big box or a small one on the right hand side is irrelevant.
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>>31370709
you don't need to be logged in, it personalizes on ip and saves all results for general searches for everybody
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>>31370751
Yes, regardless of browser.
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>>31370743
unlike chrome, it only sends when you explicitly type in the search field. god your dumb
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>>31370765
But YOU DON'T KNOW THAT because Chrome is CLOSED FUCKING source.

There is literally nothing to discuss here.

Closed source. Advertising company that is being sued for spying and infringing privacy. End of story faggot.
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>>31370783
Chromium isn't
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>>31370765
yep.
>>31370783
except it says so in google's and chrome's privacy page
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>>31368972
Hey look, same thing happened with my female friend.
>Downloads mackeeper
>Why is my Computer so slow?
>I take a look at it because she asked
>Tell her it's Mac Keeper
>She refuses.
>End up convincing her.
>Install Ccleaner, because that's pretty much what she wanted from Mac Keeper, a cleaning program
>She told me
>"It didn't finish , So I stopped it and uninstalled it"
>MFW she selected 35 passes
>MFW she has an abnormally huge dummy file on her hard drive because of her incompetence
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>>31370793
And it's a great browser which you should definitely use if you care about privacy, I agree.

Sadly that's not even the discussion. This thread is *strictly* about one of the most used browsers in the world, made by one of the biggest IT corporations - Google Chrome.

It's only a fork of Chromium, with spyware and other shit added.

Other Google services are of course to be discussed because Google combines the data they get from their users into a single integral profile, and then sell their data.
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>>31370778
As opposed to stuff you accidently type in? What are you talking about
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Chromium master race reporting in. Enjoy your slow or spying browsers, my friends.
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>>31370839
no you stupid retard
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Lol what's all that botnet bullshit talk about? Is chrome using any of cour precosseing power for some supersecret background shit which makes google monies?

are they using ur computer for illegal things?

they arent. so stop fucking crying. who gives a shit if they gather information about u to make money with ads and such, really it doesnt affect u in a negative way at all.
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>>31370893
god, fuck, read the damn thread before you post this idiocy
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>>31370912
google doesnt do real botnet shit with you anyways. no big company would do that
its all conspiracy bullshit or bullshit from lammers who dont know shit

/thread
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>>31370926
On /g/, botnet == spyware.
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Don't worry OP I stopped using chrome and replaced it with nightly

But only because I want customization. Not because it's a botnet.
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>>31370926
not literal botnet, but i'm not sure of the proper word
but botnet works well enough
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>>31370926
We established that in the start of the discussion. You're embarrassing yourself.

Both FFags and Chrometards agreed that "botnet" is a stupid /g/ meme.

RTFT imbecile.
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tl;dr?
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muh sides
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>>31372978
Tin foil hats say Chrome is a botnet because it sends your keystrokes to Google when you type in the omnibar, downloads a antimalware/phishing blacklist and allows you to login and sync your stuff.

It is pointed out that Firefox does the same thing.

Tin foils ignore this and insists that when Chrome does it it is worse because they are an advertising company and Chrome is closed source.

Basically, paranoid neckbeard freetards clinging on to old, slow browser because they are afraid Google will see them searching for ponies and CP.
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>>31373480
>Firefox does the same thing.

lol no
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>>31368987
>Implying any company can defend the user's privacy over the government.
You seriously need to read the news.
Twitter has since it start never released info about their users, yet they were forced to do it by the US Government.



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