>>32365027 (OP)
you go to jail.

Should I be "sacred" or is this a warning?

>>32365027 (OP)
File a protective motion you moron.

>>32365048
you aint sacred nigga
you think your jesus or something

What movie did op download?

Ignore it. Unless you have a state sheriff knocking on your door with a subpena you're fine.

Serves you right you fucking stealing cunt.

>HURR LOOK AT ME GUYS THEY SUE ME CUZ I'M A THIEF HURR

>>32365059
I'm not scared because I KNOW I didn't download any movie because I've never downloaded any damn movies that I haven't purchased through iTunes.
>2013
>not using F2K
>paying for movies
judge me

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did you even read it?

>>32365066
I didn't download any damn movie illegal.

>>32365087
For what? this is bullshit.

Wait what.
Someone tell me how a company that makes audio software has rights to movies?

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>>32365027 (OP)
>aperantely

LOL AMERIFATS MURRIKANS

LAND OF THE NOT SO FREE

>>32365089

Yeah, that's the reason why your IP was logged. Don't lie, nigger.

Britfag here.
Why is in these threads, the ISP is always Comcast? Whoy don't you guys just not use them?

>>32365101
they are taking legal action against you. Even if its bullshit, its time to lawyer up dipshit.

>>32365108
Obviously fake, OP stop messing around.
Anyone can type bullshit on word and stamp the comcast logo.

Ignore it.

>> Itunes, lel

Serves you right thieving scum.
10 years from now when you are out from jail you will think twice before you steal another man's hard work you fucking cunt. I hope you will get shanked in prison.

>>32365122

Because in the US, there are no laws against monopolies.

Wait, does it even say what you downloaded? That's like the first thing they have to say. Tell them to fuck off.

>>32365027 (OP)
>You have been identified in our records via your assigned IP Address, which is unique to each internet user
>IPv4
Haha, Oh wow!

>>32365122
Because the farther west you go the shittier comcast is. In New England they're perfectly fine and don't give a fuck about what you do. In the mid west and parts of the south they're always on your ass.

>>32365122
In many areas, particularly more rural towns, they have an effective monopoly.

>>32365151
>HURRRRRRR DURRRRRRRR

>>32365121
I have various devices hooked up to my router and I also have unsecured WIFI. someone else could have done it

>>32365074
so edgy you might cut yourself, be careful

>>32365164

No, really. People use Comcast because there's no other alternative.

>>32365122
>>32365124

/thread

>>32365153
it's probably in the attachment mentioned at the bottom of the letter.

>>32365173
> there are no laws against monopolies.
>HURRRRRR DURRRRR

do nothing it'll be funny

>>32365167
>and I also have unsecured WIFI. someone else could have done it

>HURR I-I-I DON'T KNOW MY WIFI WAS UNSECURED IT COULD BE ANYONE

It's your fucking Wifi, it's YOUR responsibility.

>>32365167
tell that to your attorney.

>haiving unsecured wifi
>2011

>>32365167

Dumbass what the fuck? Unprotected WIFI?

I hope you go to jail you stupid fuck.

>>32365176
I can post the rest of the papers that came with the form.

>>32365189

Are you fucking capable of posting without being as much of a /v/ retard as possible?

Seriously, stop shit posting.

>>32365123
Go see a lawyer. Quash it. If it goes forward, call the EFF.

>>32365167
nobody gives a shit amerilard law clearly states that you re fully responsible for your data line usage, therefore you router abuse falls on you
haha you are so fucked, enjoy your hundred thousand dorrar fine

>>32365167
Actually, it is your responsibility to keep your WiFi safe. Someone goes sued because his girlfriend, who admitted to the crime, had downloaded some music (or maybe it was a movies) and he still got sentenced.

>>32365224

Can't handle the truth? What do you want? Your excuse is "my Wifi was unsecured"? Good luck on court.

>>32365167
>unsecured WIFI
stopped sympathizing with you.
jesus christ you are dumb.

>>32365229
>A fine that no one can make you pay.

>>32365145
>Thinking the money goes to the artists
The jews did this

Kill yourself, you will be a martyr of the internet freedoms!

>>32365167

>I also have unsecured WIFI.

This shit doesn't work anymore.

Securing wifi is vague. What does it mean, exactly? How long should the password be?

I applaud OP for sharing his internet. If we all (or enough of us) did it we wouldn't have bullshit like this.

>>32365122
I live in Pennsylvania and Comcast has never been a huge faggot to me or anyone I know, and we've all done our fair share of "copyright infringement".

OP must be a huge faggot since there is a 6 strike policy, either he already had 6 strikes or the letter is a fake.

>>32365253
I know it doesn't I'm just saying. and it says that this download was from 2012 so like wtf?

>>32365154
Yeah, I can't say I agree with this statement, especially considering you have to pay extra with a business class account to get a static IP.

How can they have a monopoly it's an ISP. There should at least be 5 companies in each of your states able to become an ISP.

UK has like 16 to choose from, anywhere you are in the country and our networking infrastructure is ancient bullshit.

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Oh wow, now i notice how good is to live in Brazil, where no one gives a fuck about piracy.

>>32365262
Obviously hes been hacked.

>which is unique to each internet user

but that's not true.

>>32365239

This has nothing to fucking do with the subject at hand, there have been at least 3 shit-ass "lel greentext" followed by/coupled with "HURRRRRR DURRRRRR".


This is /v/ garbage and you fucking know it.

Send your picture to the Electronic Frontier Foundation and ask them for help.

On top of that, you need to lawyer up. NOW. Big companies have big dog legal teams.

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>>32365027 (OP)
OP

>Contact a lawayer.
>Admit nothing.
>Encrypt your hard drive and never leave your computer on when you are away from it.

Watch this video and find out what to do..:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

>>32365282
The US is a lot bigger than the UK.

>>32365290

Shitty OP = shitty answers. Fuck you.

>>32365301
reFX is not a big company. They make audio plugins. OP did you download/upload any plugins?

>>32365232
Also, having your WiFi open is a horrible idea. Super easy to sniff traffic, which won't even be encrypted.
If you're using WPA2-PSK, then each client will have their own key per session. So even having the password for the WPA2-PSK as the SSID will be far more secure than just leaving it open.

>>32365286
omg, lawyers are lyring. carr the porice!

>>32365290
Except im the one that said>>32365182
>>32365164
And im not him.

>>32365305
>>US is bigger
>>So it should have fewer ISPs

Thats some logic right there

>>32365324
>december 2008

>>32365283
That's because the republic of Hollywood Actors doesn't reside inside that country.

>>32365330
>US is bigger
>So the isp are more spread out.
That is some logic right there.

>>32365325
No it makes me suspect this letter is a fraud used to try and get money from OP in a fake settlement.

It's a common scam.

>>32365338

It's still accurate.

>>32365282
In the US you have very few options, and usually only one is worthwhile. In my area Comcast is all thats offered, unless you count Verizon DSL (no FiOS)or dial up. DSL and dial up are not viable for an apartment with 3 college students (or anyone for that matter) living in it, so we naturally pick Comcast. I can't complain though, never had letters or been bothered by Comcast. My roommate is the owner of the account anyway so I can do whatever I want. Paying for 6 Mbps and get 38 Mbps, feelsgoodman.

>>32365302
>Encrypt hard drive.
I would just wipe everything and write all the zeros and ones required to cover my ass, rather than encrypt. Encrypting makes you look suspicious

>>32365282
one isp will claim land for themselves and the others will back off since they don't want to compete. they only compete in big urban areas like new york

>>32365027 (OP)
reFX MAKES MOVIES?

EXCUSE ME?

Have your
>LAWYER
Argue that it is possible that someone else got on your wifi and did it. Because you were running an open wifi hotspot, right?
But it's really important that you don't take the stand or say anything. If they can't question you, they can't find anything else to try to use to incriminate you.

>>32365347
>US is big
>Companies are people
Fuck us

>>32365246
Actually they can and they will, and if you won't pay it they will repo your stuff and if it won't be enough you will go to jail

>>32365282
I like the idea that the state/government owns and is responsible for the fiber infrastructure, and then ISPs are allowed to connect to those and server their customers. That way, you will always be able to get a lot of different ISPs, but all of them will be able to offer high speed connections, and the deciding factor will be price and maybe features (like for example some might allow you to stream TV and such).
I think it's a brilliant idea.

do they even follow through with this shit?

>>32365395
>Argue that it is possible that someone else got on your wifi and did it. Because you were running an open wifi hotspot, right?

This isn't an excuse ffs. You are fully responsible for your Wifi.

>america in charge of freedom

>>32365397
I never said companies are people. But the reason you have only one isp in some places is because how remote they are. In the country you can only get dial up or satellite. Its a fact.

back to my topic please?

I buy my movies and songs via iTunes
I don't have anything that would be illegal on my hard drive. or on any of my home computers or devices.

>I'm calling an attorney/lawyer
>Will contact EFF.

best isp to avoid this shit?

>>32365399
There is no thing as a debtors jail in Illinois. Sorry.

>>32365399

>If you don't have that last $100, the tax payer can spend $10,000 incarcerating you for 2 months while the private owners of the prison make $2,000 from your slave labour in the prison industrial complex

>>32365411

Sounds like Socialism, better not breach that subject to your fellow americans!

>>32365428
Move out from Murrika.

>>32365424
save your lying for court faggot, enjoy being raped by gay niggers in jail.

>>32365388
I know...
aren't they a VST company for FL or some shit?

>>32365424
>I buy my movies and songs via iTunes
kill yourself

>>32365437
see
>>32365436

>>32365417
You could argue that the security on your router wasn't very good and shift the blame onto whoever made your router.

>>32365424
i'd say to just ignore it unless they really push you
a lawyer will jump at this chance because he's gonna got paid

>>32365424
Well you admitted to having unsecured wifi so someone is probably using it to download shit. Good luck using that as a defense though.

>>32365424

>iTunes

Jesus Christ, and you wonder why people are refusing to help you?

>>32365424
>EFF
don't waste their precious time with your fuck up.
get a real lawyer and ask him for advice.

>>32365189
There's a way to classify yourself as an ISP, provide free wifi, and benefit from the protection that ensures.

>>32365448
YEAH WHAT THE FUCK MAN

>>32365424
If you didnt do anything wrong then what the hell is the problem? Make them prove you did something wrong by showing you have the item they claimed you did.

You don't go to the police claiming your neighbor stole your shit and they arrest them, you have to fucking prove it first.

So, why routers don't log the mac adress or do they?

OP I don't know if you're getting a lawyer or not, or have the money. But one of you need to say strongly an IP Address does not equal a person.

>>32365424
Good call on the lawyer. I'd help but have yet to take the bar exam.

>>32365523
At any given time you can see clients with the MAC addresses of them in your router. Whether or not you log them is up to if you have that enabled/if your router firmware supports it. I'm sure advanced firmwares like Tomato/dd-wrt support MAC address logging.

Best thing to do is just make a MAC whitelist along with a strong wireless password. Faggy 13 year old scriptkiddies won't get past that.

The only decent place to live in the US is the Northeast, the rest of the country is West Bumfuck, except for a handful of big cities. Not only are the people stupid as hell, their internet is absolutely atrocious. I bet they all have to boil their water before using it too. Peasants.

I received a letter just like this for downloading the movie "The Mechanic". The lawsuit was thrown out by a judge and I received a follow up letter about 9 months later saying because the suit was thrown out they never submitted my personal info to the courts. Maybe that'll happen with you. From the research I did, If the lawsuit gets approved by a judge to proceed the company will try to use the threat of taking you to court to scare you into paying a settement fee of $1 to $2k. people who actually try to fight it in court face paying up upwards of $30-50k if they lose.

>>32365330

geographically, you dumbfuck.

Move to a freedom respecting country

>>32365578
NE USA is best USA

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>implying it's Comcast's duty to notify you
>implying Comcast would voluntarily waste their resources to notify people about things that are almost none of their business
>implying you shouldn't view it as anything but an elaborate scam until you get mail from an actual lawyer or court

>>32365614
im on the line with comcast and they said it might be phishing of some sort.

>>32365424

go to a local university with a law program, you can get free help there.

>>32365578
NE is overcrowded leftard hellhole, spare Vermont and New Hampshire. If you live in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island or Massachusetts you might as well kill yourself. Same applies to Delaware and Maryland.

>>32365614
They're not out to get you but they also don't want to lose you as a customer. They'd rather shove some lawsuit over what you downloaded under the table to keep a paying customer. This is why most ISPs don't give a fuck about what you're actually doing, they just hope you don't get caught.

I have WPA/WPA2, my SSID is not visible and i have a 8 number PW.

Am i safe from nigger rape?

Most ISPs give you multiple warnings before they give out your information. You are fucking retarded if you get caught doing the same thing 3+ times.

>>32365676
im thinking that this is just a warning.

>>32365653
it smells like bullshit breh
you get plenty of warnings before they do this shit

>>32365614
THIS

I have a business fax and a few months ago I got a similar letter via fax saying some company was going to sue me for piracy or some shit. They sent it a few times too. They were clearly phishing because the name on the letter was not mine so I blocked the number and that was that. I wish I'd saved it now.

>>32365673
No, and hiding your SSID makes next to no difference, since it is quite often transmitted in plain text.
You just have to sit in range for a little while and capture packets and your SSID will be reviled.
8 digit password isn't that safe either (it's just the minimum requirements).

Anyway, you will be protected from 99.9% of all people who might want to get onto your network, but the same could be said even if you did broadcast your SSID.

>>32365676

Only in america. In germany for example, feral lawyers make a fortune for sending out these letters and fines to scare people.

Most of them obviously torrented, but still, its a legal grey zone, especially the IP logging process.

ISPs in germany dont give a FUCK about their customers.

>>32365673
Hidden SSIDs are actually less secure than visible SSIDs. Your computer will constantly send out requests for that connection, which can trigger a rogue acces point to spoof the name and you'll automatically connect to an unsecured hotspot.

http://torrentfreak.com/first-software-maker-joins-bittorrent-lawsuit-bonanza-121116/

learn. to. fucking. google.

>>32365711
well TODAY I just got two of the same exact forms.

>>32365653
http://websterjournal.com/2013/02/19/document-refx-audio-software-inc-files-suit-against-other-university-network-users/

keep telling yourself its just a scam

>>32365717
>>32365728

So what the fuck should i do? Only use LAN like a scared little bitch?

>>32365722
I thought Germans where all about privacy?

>>32365730
haha oh wow
op dled shitty music software

>>32365673
>http://torrentfreak.com/first-software-maker-joins-bittorrent-lawsuit-bonanza-121116/
No. A half decent GPU could bruteforce your password in a relatively short period of time and your SSID could easily be obtained within seconds(minutes at most).

>>32365755
>privacy
>2013

Anon, I...

>>32365601

being held responsible for stealing someone elses work is not freedom

just because its digitized does not make it free, no amount of neckbeard logic for justifying theft matters

>>32365753
>So what the fuck should i do?
Stop being paranoid.
Just running PWA2-PSK will be more than enough.

If you're super paranoid and want really high security, setup a RAIDUS server and then run WPA2-Enterprise. I would just use normal WPA2 though. Anyone who knows how to get into that will be able to sniff your SSID with ease as well.

>>32365755
lel no.
still better than Austria, though.
in Austria they log every webpage you access, whenever you call or text someone and they include your exact position every time.

>>32365267
6 strikes does nothing to prevent a copyright holder from filing a lawsuit.

>not living in Glorious Canada
>having unsecured Wifi
>not using private trackers

If you do these things then you deserve to go to jail.

essentially your best bet is to hope it gets thrown out, a lot of times in a case targeting 600+ people over a wide geographic range, judges will throw the case out. They'll have to pick a specific state to hold the lawsuit trials and if its not your state you can say its unfair to try you because you have no way to get to the trial. Companies have a hard time actually taking this shit to trial

>>32365785
They do this in the entire EU, they keep logfiles of you for 6 months.

>>32365324
That's brilliant and all, but this isn't a typical letter, a Doe lawsuit has already been filed.

OP what state are you in?

>>32365753
Make your SSID visible and use a more secure password. (Try something that contains, numbers, special characters, upper case and lower case. Also make sure it's at least 10 characters long and does not contain a word found in a dictionary)

>>32365730

>$3000 equalizer codec
>torrenting a $3000 equalizer codec

>>32365411
shit shit shit, I agree with a tripfag
shit

>>32365819
germany and several other european countries don't.
geermany tried it for some time, but got rid of it because it didn't help at all

>>32365785
>in Austria they log every webpage you access
And what if you use Tor or another type of proxy service? Or is that illegal?

>>32365753
Most people don't care about stealing your information. Like >>32365783 said, use WPA2-PSK with a strong (16+ characters, A-Za-z0-9 and symbols) and you should be safe from most people sniffing your network.

>>32365466
Yea, it's called paying for business class. You're not allowed to permit open use by most TOS.

/g/, how secure is my internet password? (number)(letter)(number)(number)(uppercase letter)(number)(letter)(number)(number)

If I had a protected Wifi network (standard WPA or whatever the fuck is the thing that's supposed to be relatively easy to bruteforce), and someone torrented.

What would happen?

>>32365840
still legal.
they log your connections to the VPN. nothing they can do since it's encrypted.
even unencrypted should work since they don't use any form of deep packet inspection yet (or at least they claim that they don't)

>>32365857
Nine characters was long 20 years ago, now it's not even a good minimum.

>>32365857
not really secure.

>MlF1sK@bSbc160tf@iTa
was a password i used for some stuff a while ago

>>32365861
The owner of the account is always responsible for what happens on their connection.

>>32365873
>>32365881

It should be noted I live in a suburban area with maybe 20 houses within range

go christopher dorner on your ISP

>>32365861
You'd probably still be responsible.

Infringement is civil, not criminal. Meaning, if their lawyers can convince the jury you're guilty, then you're guilty.

You *might* have a chance to get out of a criminal case under that circumstance, but not very likely with a civil case.

You're fucked.

>>32365829

>using Equalizer to begin with

>>32365826
Illinois

>>32365890
around my house there are exactly 4 access points and there are only old as fuck people (60+)
but it's kinda irritating that one of those access points is called DD-WRT.

>not being a 280lbs 6'5 black monster

I DO the raping. Get on my level, white boys.

>>32365182
Lol'ed

don't fight it. The court will let them come to your home and take all your computer shit.

>>32365908
>>32365882
Okay.
I got robbed and during the robbery someone torrented something to get me into even more shit.

I reported the robbery to the police, however, haven't reported that he fucked with my router and possibly took it.

What VST did you download?

>>32365921
> one of those access points is called DD-WRT
That doesn't mean anything. My SSID is 'NETGEAR' on a Linksys router running DD-WRT.

>>32365958
What part of "civil case" are you not understanding? Like the ones where thieves break into a house, hurt themselves, and then sue the property owners.

>>32365980
I didn't download no shitty VST.
they're a shit VST company.
it says I downloaded a movie, a fucken movie.

shoulda got a VPN, OP

had you had a VPN, there's a 99% chance this would not have happened

>>32365890
Avoid the 100 most common passwords:
http://www.magistere-finance.org/bank-rates-reviews/top-100-most-common-used-passwords-avoid-them-or-get-hacked

As long as you're using a good authentication system, like WPA2-PSK, dictionary words should be fine as long as it's not the password by itself, and has some uncommon complexity. This doesn't really work with older auth systems like NTLM that uses insecure hashing algorithms like DES and MD4.

>>32365736
If they weren't certified, and you didn't sign anything to accept it, I think it might be a scam.

Courts are hopelessy uverworked.

It will take YEARS for this to go to court and even then you coudl still pay a settlement.

Just do the honorable thing, flee to Mexico, get a beautiful latina wife and become a low level thug. The FBI is already looking for you anyway.

>>32366061
thats because they didn't have a software lawsuit template typed up because this is the first software company to sue, likely comcast has music and movie infringement template letters. Go by the fucking subpoena, not the generic comcast cover page

>>32366061
That's ISP boilerplate letter. That means nothing, what's the attached subpena say?

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>>32366079
>flee to Mexico, get a beautiful latina wife and become a low level thug.

Can you read my fucking mind always wanted to do that, and die a horrible cartel related death in some big shootout.