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    22 KB Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:20 No.6565352  
    Attention pirates:

    Almost everyone pirates software, movies, music or games at some point. What is not an issue (with me) is the moral aspect of piracy. I'm not going to stop doing it and I doubt anyone else here will either.

    However, I find it laughable that people mock others that buy these things. If someone wasn't spending money on these things, the industries making them would cease to exist. Granted, there are exceptions to this rule. There is the open source software sector of computing, and no doubt there would be a few games and movies that would be made purely for philanthropic reasons.

    However, the output would be minuscule. People don't make these products out of the goodness of their hearts. The fact that GNU/Linux is free and hasn't ran over Microsoft in Apple in terms of desktop marketshare is further proof that people are willing to pay... and pirates benefit from that. Even open source software benefits from the competition of Apple and Microsoft for various reasons by creating a standard (good or bad) that GNU/Linux can compare itself to and attempt to be better than.

    So the next time you prepare your witty greentext of

    >he buys software

    Realize that if someone wasn't, the only software you would have would be from neckbeards. And while that is of course awesome to some of you, realize that if free were so awesome, everyone would have a GNU/Linux desktop by now. (And that still doesn't solve the matter of games, movies and other entertainment.)

    tl;dr without consumerism, there is nothing to pirate and enjoy to begin with.
    >> isac 11/04/09(Wed)13:20 No.6565362
    OP is poorfag
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:21 No.6565368
    >he buys software

    laughingpikachu.jpg
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:22 No.6565383
    What did the human race do for entertainment before multi-mega-fascist-corporations monopolized entertainment?

    We made it ourselves, we entertained each other and if everybody stops buying things then once we run out of past entertainment (impossible for one single person) then we will continue this again).
    >> DuskGold !cpV3N6dPsE 11/04/09(Wed)13:22 No.6565384
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    I don't pirate games.

    I do however download rare/out of production games.

    Feels good man.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:22 No.6565388
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    Thanks for paying for software so the rest of us are able to pirate it, OP. We appreciate it. Pic related: it's OP
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:23 No.6565399
    ITT: BUTTHURT POORFAGS
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:24 No.6565403
    >he buys software
    laughinggirls.jpg.gif.exe
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:24 No.6565405
    These companies don't need money like we do.

    Duh.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:27 No.6565447
    All creative content (by creative content I mean pictures, videos etc) should be freely available to view anyway. Distributing and remixing should be allowed or disallowed at the author's discretion, like the CC licenses.
    Copyright was invented to pretty much ensure the author of the content had full ownership of their work and that they would get credit where credit is due. Pre-Berne Convention, people passed off other people's work as their own all the time.
    Now it's just a way to extort people, and the author don't even own the rights to their work any more, the industry does.

    tl;dr: FUCK YOU OP.
    >> King Neckbeard !LiNUXD3Occ 11/04/09(Wed)13:33 No.6565518
    Arguably, there is something different about buying a support contract or donating to a project to help fund it's development than paying money for a license to use software in a limited manner.

    As for the cost of operating systems, it's mostly transparent to the public. The sales of retail versions of Windows are miniscule.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:34 No.6565528
    >HE BUYS SOFTWARE
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    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:44 No.6565650
    >>6565447
    I don't recall mentioning copyright.

    My point was that mocking those that spend the money to fund the production of products that you pirate is a silly troll. I myself pirate tons of stuff, but I am thankful someone out there buys the shit so I can enjoy it. I also spend money on things I think are worth buying that I could pirate.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:52 No.6565722
    >>6565650
    >spend the money to fund the production of products
    Yeah, stopped reading right about there.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:53 No.6565734
    I pirate plenty, but if I like a product well enough, I'll buy it. Good movie? I'll go buy the DVD. Sometimes the extra features are worth it. Good music? I'll buy the song through an online store. A whopping dollar. I'll buy video games when I want some online multiplayer action and you can't really get around it, ie, L4D on Steam. Sometimes it's easier to do that than jump through fifty hoops to play in a limited fashion and get screwed on updates. I also sell refurbed computers on the side for extra cash. I make certain that I'm not selling pirated shit on them. XP keys get XP Pro. Maybe I'll load some free apps. I don't sell pirated goods, though.

    TL;DR: I'll buy it if I think it's worth it. OP is right in that a lot of things we take for granted would go byebye if we all pirated everything. Sure, some people make music to make music. Some people write software to write software. But a whole lot more do it because they want to make a living.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:54 No.6565737
    You aren't anything new or original.

    Enjoy your skewed vision of the market while you can.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:55 No.6565752
    >everyone would have a GNU/Linux desktop by now
    >And while that is of course awesome to some of you
    WHY YES THIS WOULD BE GREAT
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)13:58 No.6565775
    >he buys software
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    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:01 No.6565804
    >>6565734
    I agree with this fellow. To add to it, I also buy something if it's easier. I simply cannot be bothered to download the first two seasons of Auf Wiedersehen, Pet when they're readily available on DVD for £5 each.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:02 No.6565816
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    I pay for stuff if I think it's worth my money.

    If everybody did the same we wouldn't have shit such as that in my related picture.
    How are you gonna tell me it's morally wrong to pirate that piece of shit after it got over 400mil from stupid faggots?
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:03 No.6565825
    >>6565734
    OP here, I basically feel the same way, granted you phrased it in a less douchebaggy way than I did.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:04 No.6565838
    >>6565816 How are you gonna tell me it's morally wrong to pirate that piece of shit after it got over 400mil from stupid faggots?

    I'm not. In fact, if you'll read my original post, you'll see I have no moral objection to piracy. I sure as hell wouldn't have paid for that shit either.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:04 No.6565840
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    >he buys software
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    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:04 No.6565841
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    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:05 No.6565849
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    >>6565352
    >HE STILL BUYS HIS SOFTWARE
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:06 No.6565858
    >>6565838
    Cool. It was a rhetorical question, tho, not directed at you, OP.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:07 No.6565862
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    >he buys software
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:07 No.6565870
    Piracy is theft. If you disagree and pirate to "make a point" then the point is easier made by abstaining from consuming the product in the first place. There is no greater crime than theft. All crime is a form of theft. Killing someone, stealing their life, raping someone, stealing their virtue... All of you "I deserve it now!" fags need to GROW THE FUCK UP. Get a job and pay for what you want.

    Also, most people use Windows because it's what they grew up on, it's what comes with their PCs when they buy it at the store, and it's what Microsoft strong-arms everyone into using. If you gave me a license to Windows 7 as a gift, I would still use GNU/Linux (Debian actually) as my primary OS and only install it in a virtual machine to tinker with. If you gave me a top of the line MacBook Pro, I'd still install GNU/Linux and use that almost exclusively like I did with my TiBook G4 almost 10 years ago. I grew up with UNIX so it's what I learned and there's no way I would run something other than a UNIX variant with the software I'm accustomed to.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:07 No.6565872
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    >>6565352
    >butthurt he is the only one buying software
    >> I'M GAY !NOHOMO7yCo 11/04/09(Wed)14:09 No.6565884
    enjoy your prisoner's dilemma.

    if everyone just pirates, there wont be anything left to pirate any more someday, piratefags!
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:11 No.6565901
    >>6565870
    Moralfaggotry detected.
    >> King Neckbeard !LiNUXD3Occ 11/04/09(Wed)14:12 No.6565917
    >>6565870
    Piracy is copyright infringement, not theft.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:13 No.6565932
    >>6565917
    It's theft.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:14 No.6565938
    Who cares if the industry dies? Pirates like me will just find another industry to suck dry. No big deal. Old content is fine, if new content stops being created.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:14 No.6565943
    >>6565870
    >abstaining from consuming the product in the first place.

    I agree, but it's difficult to know if a movie will be good, if an album will be good and even if certain software will be good (unless the demo version if fully functional and accessible - not tied to a piece of hardware).

    So in the case of movies, for example, it's really difficult to do the right thing - to vote with your wallet. If it was possible, the people responsible for Transformers 2 wouldn't have made 400+mil and wouldn't be considering making that sort of crap in the future.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:14 No.6565944
    >>6565901
    15 year old detected
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:17 No.6565977
    >>6565917
    Truth.
    >>6565932
    False. You have not actually stolen anything. No one has lost an item as a result of your actions. It's not like stealing a candy bar, because the candy bar is now gone from the shelf. Stealing a DVD from the shelf is theft. Downloading said DVD is copyright infringement as it has zero effect on stock.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:17 No.6565981
    >>6565943
    Don't give me that crap. Entertainment is not fucking shareware/trialware. You don't "deserve" to try before you buy.

    Buy it if and find out if you like it or not. If you don't, sell it at a music store or video rental place. Remember what band or director it was and think twice in the future about buying from them again. Repeat process.
    >> King Neckbeard !LiNUXD3Occ 11/04/09(Wed)14:18 No.6565990
    >>6565932
    No, it's legally distinct, and the real damages are inherently less than theft, making it not morally/ethically equivalent.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:19 No.6566003
    >>6565870
    Theft is stealing the original

    Piracy is making a copy of the original and selling the copy, but stealing nothing from the company or seller.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:19 No.6566016
    >>6565977
    Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better about stealing intellectual property. It's theft. The end result is you possessing something that you did not pay to have the right to in the first place and acquired through illegal means. Just because someone came up with a clever rebuttal to "You woudn't steal a car" doesn't make it any less of a crime.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:21 No.6566031
    >>6565990
    Moral equivalence is beside the point IMO. The point is that there are mechanisms in place to change laws we don't agree with. Breaking them is *sometimes* an acceptable, pointed means of demonstration, but doing so privately, sitting naked in a dirty chair eating Cheetos while you download Transformers 2 amounts to being a nigger, nothing more.

    Nothing more.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:22 No.6566044
    >>6565990
    >>6566003

    You're stealing a copy of the intellectual property. It damages the people involved in creating the property and it damages the rest of the consumers who do live like a criminal because their prices go up.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:22 No.6566052
    >>6565981
    If I buy DVDs, watch them, and then return them a day later, am I breaking the law?
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:22 No.6566061
    Pirating software is like stealing the recipe for your favorite brand of beer, then brewing it at home yourself purely for personal use.

    Not the same thing as stealing a case of beer.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:25 No.6566093
    >>6566031
    Demonstrating a point by consuming their product by acquiring through illegal means? Are you serious? This mentality has to be part of the "I deserve everything without working for it" generation. Try not listening to your stupid ass music or watching the latest brainwashing movie in the first place. It's really not that good. I feel sorry for you kids who have no idea what QUALITY is in regards to entertainment.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:26 No.6566109
    >>6566052 If I buy DVDs, watch them, and then return them a day later, am I breaking the law?

    Probably not, but the store you bought them from will probably tell you to fuck off and there's nothing you can do to stop them, unless they're feeling generous.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:27 No.6566120
    >>6566052
    No. Way to go! You found a way to watch your movies that doesn't make you a criminal. Unless you return it re-shrink wrapped under false pretenses. In that case, just rent. Netflix is fucking cheap. And I'm sure you have rental places where you live. They are everywhere, even in the grocery stores.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:29 No.6566141
    >>6566044
    Today my friend made a remark about a passing female, after which I was thinking the same remark.
    DID I STEAL HIS THOUGHTS?
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:29 No.6566145
    >>6566061
    >Pirating software is like

    Rationalize all you want, it's still illegal and it's still theft. Just because Joe still has his copy, you still broke the law and you damaged everyone involved because people aren't making money, which is the reason they created the intellectual property in the first place, as well, people's inventories aren't selling causing problems for the local businesses. If you think it's a victimless crime, wait until you become and adult and have to pay your own bills and try to support yourself or a family. Your mom and dad won't always be there to protect you from adulthood.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:29 No.6566146
    >>6565870
    >There is no greater crime than theft.
    >All crime is a form of theft.

    >... All crimes are equal

    If more people thought like you, we'd be giving the death penalty for jaywalking.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:29 No.6566148
    >>6566016
    >you did not pay to have the right to in the first place and acquired through illegal means.

    not so long ago it was illegal for negroes to vote in america. (i guess i could've thought of a better example, since for 4chan, but you get the point...)
    some laws are stupid and not in sync with what's morally right.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:30 No.6566153
    >>6566093
    > I can't read
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:30 No.6566159
    >>6566146
    I didn't say they were equal. Fuck you and learn to read.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:31 No.6566163
    >>6566120
    I live in Britain, rental is expensive here.
    >>6566109
    Again, I live in Britain. I can just say that it's POLITICALLY INCORRECT for them to not refund me, and they'll have to give me my money or face weeks of thrashing in the tabloids.
    >> King Neckbeard !LiNUXD3Occ 11/04/09(Wed)14:32 No.6566176
    >>6566031
    I'm not arguing about whether it's right or wrong. I'm arguing that the two are not the same.

    >>6566044
    In any case other than downloading directly off of their servers, it costs the company whose copyright was infringed less than stealing an equal number of copies would.

    If 100% of the people who illegally downloaded your software were going to buy a legitimate copy, then the projected loss compared to them being legitimate customers would be the sales price of the software minus the costs of distribution.

    If these same people actually steal copies, the company loses the sales of the software altogether.

    Therefore, in virtually all cases, copyright infringement does less damage than stealing, so they aren't equivalent.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:32 No.6566181
    >>6566148
    So change the fucking law you lazy fuck, don't just be a nigger and break the law "yo dawg i herd this shit was moral and shit". Do something about it.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:32 No.6566185
    Sure is RIAA in here.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:32 No.6566189
    >>6566148
    So change the law. Don't your votes mean something? (sarcasm) Until then, breaking the law won't help. And I am pretty sure the law won't change since most of these so called "entertainers" only give a shit about making money and not "their work."
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:34 No.6566228
    I have over 1TB of illegal shit. Feels good man. Also, I don't give a shit. Pirating can be a good thing in terms of market share and popularity. Also poorfags can use benefit from pirating, how do you think undeveloped countries get their entertainment?
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:38 No.6566275
    >>6566185
    Not me. I just don't buy the trash in the first place anymore. I have boxes of music from before the RIAA went apeshit and what did I do to show my support (or lack thereof) -- I stopped consuming their trash. Actually, I still buy music, but from small independent people and a lot of local artists. TV and movies though, I have no time for that. Any free time I have is probably spent on /g/ laughing at people.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:39 No.6566297
    >For all those people that cry because of Mac = Expensive!
    >
    >1. GET A FUCKING JOB!!!
    >2. DON'T HAVE BABIES IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT
    >3. HAVE SEX FOR THE 1ST TIME

    Applies here too.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:40 No.6566299
    If I didn't pirate music, I still wouldn't buy it. They are not losing a sale due to me pirating it.
    >> Communist_Utopia !PzSOVIETyg 11/04/09(Wed)14:40 No.6566300
    >>6566228
    >illegal shit

    cp? rest of the possibilities wouldnt be illegal in any civilized western country
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:41 No.6566318
    >>6566228
    Good for you if you can sleep at night. I personally have too much to risk by doing illegal stuff especially with computers since that's how I support my family and pay for my house and vehicles. It feels good to be free and clear and able to relax, knowing that if someone breaks down my door, I have the full right to blast them to hell instead of wondering if it's someone coming to take me in.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:42 No.6566329
    >>6566299
    Then you don't deserve to listen to their intellectual property. Also, think of how many people you help to illegally acquire the same property.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:43 No.6566355
    >>6566145
    What the hell are you talking about? I never said anything about it not effecting the market.

    You're raging at a non-existent jobless teenager that you imagined right now. Someone earlier in the thread claimed software piracy was the exact same as theft, and I disagreed. Simple as that. That says absolutely nothing about my personal life, or even whether I find it right or wrong to pirate myself.
    >> King Neckbeard !LiNUXD3Occ 11/04/09(Wed)14:43 No.6566357
    >>6566300
    illegal isn't necessarily criminal.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:45 No.6566377
    >>6566318

    The contents of my HDD don't affect my sleep whatsoever.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:45 No.6566382
    >>6566159
    Read the first two quoted statements and do the math, smartypants.
    >> Communist_Utopia !PzSOVIETyg 11/04/09(Wed)14:46 No.6566387
    >>6566297
    >>For all those people that cry because of Mac = Expensive+Watered down usability+Intentionally crippled features

    fix'd
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:47 No.6566409
    I, for one, just don't give a fuck. I don't care if it is theft (which it's not, anyone who says it is theft is retarded) or if it fucks some idiots over. As long as I have the opportunity to do it without consequences I will continue to do it, and no amount of moralfag butthurt will ever change that.
    >> Communist_Utopia !PzSOVIETyg 11/04/09(Wed)14:49 No.6566434
    >>6566318
    >if someone breaks down my door
    >it's someone coming to take me in

    enjoy living in a fascist "democracy"
    thats if; if its over something on your computer, especially over digital enterntainment
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:52 No.6566461
    Economics doesn't work that way OP.

    There is several ways to address this issue - I'm going to go the non-deadweight loss argument.

    The United States is the only market to which consumers pay $400 for Adobe photoshop (just using photoshop as an example). In most other countries, pirated copies of software, movies, music, video games, etc. - are outwardly sold in stores just as legal copies are sold in Wal-Mart. The only reason software/entertainment costs what it does is because U.S. markets are willing to pay that much for them. All fine and good.

    However, in economics, we know that advancements in technology advance the production-possibility frontier. Changes must be inevitably made, but it still increases production and lowers prices for the consumer. For example, with the birth of the internet and other communication technologies, firms are able to outsource customer service to India and the like so that their services and products can be cheaper to the consumer. Did someone have to lose their job? Yes. However, is the majority now better off? Yes. In a free market society, this pressure breeds innovation, ie. "we can't make money this way anymore, time to figure out something new". That "something new" benefits society.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:52 No.6566463
    >>6566357
    Terrorists isn't necessarily evil.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:52 No.6566470
    >>6566461

    Fictional hypothetical scenario - we figure out how to make exact duplicates of an meat, vegetables, bread, and fruit. The copy is exactly the same as the original and the original is perfectly preserved. What would benefit society as a whole more? Saving farmer jobs, or solving world hunger?

    The problem with piracy is simple. Technology has evolved faster than ways to make money through this avenue. There is no incentive to NOT pirate digital media - other than the fear that "no new media will be made". This is of course false. Just as the U.S. has outsourced the manufacturing of many products to other countries, and began using the facilities to develop and manufacture new technologies (new energy, etc.) - the "entertainment/software" industry must do the same. Eventually, innovation will be required to create a means of entertainment that cannot be easily copied for free without taking the original. With that new innovation, there is now incentive to pay for it, as there is no other way to obtain it.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:53 No.6566479
    >>6566470


    The ball is already rolling. Take the RIAA and MPAA for example. Once the napster, limewire, torrent craze began, making file distribution and sharing incredibly easy for your average teenager - these huge corporations began suing single moms and college student's out of desperation. Recently they have stopped. Not only is the fear of being sued not stopping people from downloading and creating abysmal legal fees, it is destroying the public image of these companies. Any idiot who stumbled through college majoring in business administration can tell you how important the public image of a business is. They've stopped suing people out of desperation and finding out (innovating) how to get people to pay them money again. It's very simple when you can step back and see the whole picture.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:53 No.6566482
    >>6566470
    Are you seriously equating free food with downloading Transformers 2?
    >> King Neckbeard !LiNUXD3Occ 11/04/09(Wed)14:56 No.6566510
    >>6566461
    >>6566470
    While I agree with your statement overall, Eurofags generally pay MORE than the US for anything computer related.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:56 No.6566519
    >>6566482

    Yes I am.
    >> Communist_Utopia !PzSOVIETyg 11/04/09(Wed)14:57 No.6566534
    >>6566510
    >Eurofags generally pay MORE than the US for anything computer related.

    Truth
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)14:58 No.6566541
    >>6566510

    I should have said, markets in the U.S. and Europe (and Australia). You will find out the majority of the population of the world buy and use pirated digital copyrighted material.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)15:04 No.6566621
    >>6566461
    >>6566470
    >>6566479


    DEY TURK ER JERBS!
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)15:08 No.6566668
    My friends and I steal all the time. If I buy a movie, I'll often lend it out to my friends to watch. It may get passed around 100 times before I get it again. That means it's possible that a 100 people or more could have viewed the movie without paying the creators.

    I know tons of people who torrent movies, watch them, then delete them. Most people don't horde downloaded movies in stacked hard drives in their basements. These people who watch and then delete, are no different than the people who watch the DVD I let circle around to be borrowed.

    I guess I'm just born to be a criminal.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)15:09 No.6566686
    >>6566541
    You have some referenced statistics to back that up?
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)15:12 No.6566734
    >>6566686

    http://www.allbusiness.com/technology/computer-software/493761-1.html
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)15:13 No.6566749
    >>6566686

    Also take notice that that is dated in 1995. You tell me, has pirating gotten easier or harder since then?
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)15:18 No.6566821
    >>6566668
    >If I buy a movie, I'll often lend it out to my friends to watch.

    What is this, '94? Don't you people have internet?



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