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    40 KB Microsoft Specs out pay-as-you-go computing, and their loss of reality Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:37 No.3051295  
    >Microsoft Corp. last week applied for a patent that spells out a "pay as you go" concept under which users would be charged for both the software they run and the computing horsepower they use.

    >According to the patent application filed last week with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, the "Metered Pay-As-You-Go Computing Experience" scheme would meter software use and access to specific computer hardware. Fees would be charged against a prepaid or billed account.

    >Fees would be lower for low-performance chores, such as writing e-mail or surfing the Internet, and higher for high-performance tasks.

    >For consumers, Microsoft said, the advantage of such a model would be a lower price at the outset for a powerful PC. Computer makers would gain the ability to standardize on higher-end systems, it added. But the company admitted that the overall cost to the user might be higher than for a standard PC purchase. "Although the cost of ownership over the life of the computer may be higher than that of a one-time purchase, the payments can be deferred and the user can extend the useful life of the computer beyond that of the one-time purchase machine," Microsoft contended.

    http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9124459&in
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    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:39 No.3051309
    MS can apply for all the patents they want. Doesn't mean those ideas will even be used.
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:39 No.3051313
    WHAT THE FFFFFFFUUUUUUU-
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:39 No.3051316
    If this happens I will get a mac and welcome a barrage of cocks in my ass.

    Would be far less painful then this shit.
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:40 No.3051329
    Think about it: Microsoft wants to be a utility company with a constant teather to your computer monitoring all activity and charge you accordingly. Of course, all fees would add up to be more expensive than the current single payment method

    if they do decide to go with this.. RIP microsoft
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:40 No.3051333
    This and cloud computing are overrated. It will be as useful as Vista Home Basic.
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:41 No.3051339
    And I remember when you all made fun of my tin-foil hat wearing self. Fuck you all, now you see that Microsoft wants to charge you for shit that costs them nothing, like text messaging on cell phones.
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:41 No.3051348
    They're only looking into it... Just remember there will always be an alternative.
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:42 No.3051354
    its almost like they WANT to lose more money

    Just in time for GOOGLE OS
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:42 No.3051359
    >the advantage of such a model would be a lower price at the outset for a powerful PC

    Of course, in reality most users would be fine with a P4, 2GB of RAM and XP to check email, look at Youtube and funny cat pictures.

    But that is not the MICROSOFT EXPERIENCE.
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:42 No.3051361
    Where is RMS statement to these atrocities?
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:42 No.3051362
    >>3051348
    Yeah, the alternative is Free Software.

    http://www.debian.org/intro/free
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:44 No.3051381
    >>3051348
    yea, apple, a company thats all marketing with no software support and requires class action lawsuits to acknowledge and repair hardware and bugs. "LOL U DONT NEED ANTI VIRUS U R TOTALLY HACK PROOF"

    Or Linux where you have to assemble your own OS and rely on neckbearded nerds to eventually create drivers in a month or two.
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:44 No.3051383
    never underestimate the willingness of the consumer to bend over and be anally raped by a corporation.

    if you explained the idea of text messages to me 15 years ago and how profitable they will be, i would have laughed in your face.
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:45 No.3051395
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    >>3051329
    >if they do decide to go with this.. RIP microsoft
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:46 No.3051400
    >>3051383

    Text messaging still has a purpose. It's how selling ringtones is still profitable that boggles my mind.
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:50 No.3051431
    >Pricing could be on an hourly rate, perhaps with different "bundles" priced according to the software offered and the hardware necessary to run that software. A bundle of productivity applications, for example, might include word processing and spreadsheet software that could access two of three processor cores and a medium level of graphics performance for, say, $1 an hour.

    >A "gaming bundle," meanwhile, would make available all the PC's processor cores and 3-D graphics support for $1.25 an hour.

    >"Both users and suppliers benefit from this new business model," Microsoft claimed. "The user is able to migrate the performance level of the computer as needs change over time, while the supplier can develop a revenue stream business that may actually have higher value than the one-time purchase model currently practiced."

    OH FUCK THEM IN THE ASS! Locking you into an ISP so they can keep tabs on everything you do? people won't stand for this kind of shit. Businesses won't go for this at all either.
    >> g_z !Sen8ZFORTE 12/29/08(Mon)23:52 No.3051455
    http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9000670
    >May 22, 2006 (IDG News Service) -- Microsoft Corp. is starting up trials of pay-as-you-go PCs in underdeveloped nations
    Ay que me lol
    >A user will buy a PC for about half the normal retail price and, in exchange, will be given a certain amount of time on the system. The computers have metering technology built in that tracks a user's time and alerts them when they are running low on time.
    Uh, there are already a lot of cyber cafes in those developing nations.

    >As time begins to run out, the PC will shut down certain functionality, going into "reserve mode" so a user knows to buy more usage time. Users can buy this time over the Internet or through prepaid cards.

    >The FlexGo PCs were inspired by the success of prepaid cellular phones in countries where people may not have credit cards or predictable income streams,
    Apples and oranges.
    >The PCs, which will cost about the equivalent of $300, will be available at various local retail outlets in each country. However, the PCs are technologically equivalent to a machine that would cost about $600 in the U.S., Wickstrand said.
    Haha, oh wow.
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:53 No.3051466
    OP here, I just figured it out.
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:55 No.3051477
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    Even though I run most of my computers on pirated windows, I actually own one copy of both XP Pro and Vista Ultimate 64.

    If this is the direction they're going in, then fuck it I'll just pirate it. Enjoy your decline Microsoft.

    How do you think the OEMs (Dell, HP, etc) would deal with this?
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:55 No.3051484
    >>3051400
    it has a purpose, but it costs YOU, THE CONSUMER more money than sending signals to satellites orbiting around Mars
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:56 No.3051486
    >>3051466
    WTF is that some kind of bot or something? its annoying
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:57 No.3051501
    >>3051400
    *most people* don't even know what a "fire fox" is let alone how to make their own ringtone (which you can't with Verizon since they cripple their phones btw)
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:57 No.3051507
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    >>3051477
    >How do you think the OEMs (Dell, HP, etc) would deal with this?
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:58 No.3051518
    >>3051501
    remember when we were in school and everyone said we'd be the bosses and run everything? well that didn't pan out too well because the flood of retards seemed to have taken over this planet, at least in the US. it seems that the more stupid and ridiculous the idea is, the more money it will make.
    >> Anonymous 12/29/08(Mon)23:59 No.3051521
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    If microsoft would ever be retarded enough to implement something like this, pirates would break the "security" of the new system within days.

    Yet again, the paying customers are the ones that suffer.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:01 No.3051543
    MS put a patent on that for an ongoing pay as you go terminal.
    That is all.

    Although Apple is actually thinking of doing what many of you thought from OP's post.
    >> g_z !Sen8ZFORTE 12/30/08(Tue)00:01 No.3051545
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    >>3051431
    The gaming bundle is hilarious. People would flee to Console-land in no time.

    I wonder who's the retard who thinks this shit would work and green-lights it.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:02 No.3051552
    >>3051477
    >How do you think the OEMs (Dell, HP, etc) would deal with this?
    They won't care. They still sell you a computer that you can't fully use like they do FUCKING RIGHT NOW.

    >>3051521
    >pirates would break the "security" of the new system within days.
    Not with online software. Not going to happen.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:02 No.3051558
    Even basic Office and Windows currently run at over $400 retail. Microsoft think their software is somehow more valuable then many people's entire hardware.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:03 No.3051568
    Nice - Using a Windows Base PC just turned into mother fucking XBOX LIVE.

    FUCKING NJOY NIGGERS.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:03 No.3051569
    >>3051501
    I have Verizon,

    Make ringtone
    Email mp3 as attachment to <phone#>@vzwpix.com
    ???
    Profit!
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:04 No.3051581
    businesses wouldn't stand for paying for their hundreds of computers being used by their employees.

    This is like charging you to drive your car by the mile.

    >>3051545
    they know they'll make much more money for less physical product with subscriptions, thats why microtransactions are doing so well. If there's money to be had, you're fucked
    >> Aro !!tth/tv+hsYe 12/30/08(Tue)00:04 No.3051582
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    fucking hell bitches
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:04 No.3051586
    >>3051569
    bluetooth transfer is free. you're either paying for data transfer or a monthly data transfer plan.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:05 No.3051593
    >>3051545
    Oh, and look what gaming console is on top in terms of real gaming at the moment. The 360.

    Wow, the intricacy of this shit is mind boggling.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:05 No.3051595
    Microsoft only patented this so nobody else could do this. They're not going to do it themselves, they're just smart enough to not abuse a thing like this.

    Microsoft is the sacred realm.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:07 No.3051615
    You people are fucking stupid. This does not mean that all PCs, or even all windows PCs will have this system. I have no idea why you would think that. This is a concept that would be best suited for cafes. There is no economic sense in giving consumers the full thing and letting them pay for less. This would probably be connected to a larger system that allocates resources based on need and price.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:07 No.3051620
    If they do this, it'll instantly bring about the year of the linux desktop.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:08 No.3051624
    >>3051545
    >People would flee to Console-land in no time.
    Microsoft has a console too...
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:09 No.3051633
    >>3051620
    Linux would have to become Windows to become commonly accepted.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:10 No.3051650
    I would immediately switch to Mac if this shit happens. Then I will beg on my knees in front of Steve Jobs to save us.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:10 No.3051652
    >>3051595
    right, like how they strong arm all the PC manufacturers into selling windows only? or how they strong arm all the game developers into using Direct3D instead of the superior OpenGL developed by fucking SGI many years before Direct3D was around? microsoft is good at one thing, it's not software... it's forcing people into using their shit.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:10 No.3051656
    on Windows, there are Windows.

    on Macs, there are Windows.

    on Linux, there are Windows.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:10 No.3051657
    >>3051620
    I don't like relying on 'the community' to produce drivers I need like.. now
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:11 No.3051669
    You faggots will love this shit.

    cripple: "WHO DO I BYPASS WGA GUYZZZ???"
    /g/tard: "Just pay the $4/month for a REAL LEGFIT VERSION, poorfag."
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:12 No.3051675
    This is basically like, Sub-prime computing. It lets FPS faggots get their hands on tH3 l@teSt gEaR without any high up-front costs.

    They won't use it and are just patent squatting, since they know all too well that people will crack it.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:12 No.3051678
    >>3051657
    this

    Not to mention that the majority of the "community" has school or work as their main priority, so you will expect a driver to take weeks to months to even begin, and even longer for them to be half-way there.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:13 No.3051679
    >>3051633
    Pay as you go will drive everyone away from Microsoft, and nobody will pay Apple prices. And the only thing that makes linux hard for others is being indoctrinated with the windows way.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:13 No.3051682
    >>3051657
    most hardware manufacturers release drivers for linux. hello. don't buy the cheapest no-name brand possible.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:13 No.3051687
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >>3051595
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:14 No.3051693
    >>3051675
    Can you crack an MMO?
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:14 No.3051694
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    HEY YOU FAGS

    THIS IS GOING TO BE USED FOR INTERNET SERVICES SUCH AS CAFES OR HOTELS

    NOT FOR PERSONAL COMPUTERS IN YOUR HOUSE

    HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRR
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:15 No.3051699
    Everything is aligning perfectly for Year of the Linux Desktop.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:15 No.3051708
    If this ever happens, it really WILL be the YEAR OF THE LINUX!!!

    As they have been saying for the last 5 years, if not longer.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:16 No.3051714
    tldr;

    MS patents something and everyone overreacts.

    Won't happen, end of story.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:16 No.3051716
    >>3051694
    THEN WHY DOES IT TALK ABOUT COMPUTERS AND PAYMENT PLANS FOR GAMERS?

    DUR HUR HURRRR!
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:18 No.3051739
    >>3051657
    >>3051678
    there are tons of paid professionals that work on OSS. Google pays a lot of money into it as well as other corporations. It isn't based off of basement dwelling losers, although they certainly contribute.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:18 No.3051740
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    >>3051714
    Yea, and companies would NEEEEVER charge you for horse armor or small stuff that should be free in games right? RIIIIGHT??
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:18 No.3051743
    >>3051694

    They are clearly talking about the end users.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:19 No.3051753
    Even if they did this, it's not like computers will only be available through this system. There will just be another option for people. It probably wouldn't even be that popular here.
    >> That Faggot Who Keeps Posting Kaworu/Shinji Pics !LYNGx8MuKY 12/30/08(Tue)00:21 No.3051781
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    Cash Rules Everything Around Me
    C.R.E.A.M. - Get the money
    Dolla dolla bill y'all

    Cash Rules Everything Around Me
    C.R.E.A.M. - Get the money
    Dolla dolla bill y'all

    >okay, so here's what we do. We sell someone some hardware at a price that is actually much less than it costs, but here's the catch: We prevent them from accessing it. Then, we charge them for it indefinitely to have a virtually limitless source of funds. People won't even be buying newer, more powerful PCs either, since they weren't even able to access the full power of their previous ones until we let them, so we could probably charge more for an "upgrade" package that actually only gives them what they bought in the first place.

    I don't see how you fags are offended by this anyway, since we all build our own PCs, and this seems to only be possible on a prebuilt machine.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:22 No.3051788
    >Charged for the computing horsepower they use.

    Didn't we leave that behind back in the 70s?
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:23 No.3051799
    >>3051714
    >MS patents something and someone overreacts, sheep follow and make an ever bigger deal out of it
    fixd
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:33 No.3051914
    ITT microsoft thinks of something that people will fall for and will make them money, and /g/ bitches and acts like they wouldnt do this too if they were in the position to. if you were microsoft, youd implement this and sit back and laugh while you become even richer. stop being jealous of other peoples success and ability to squeeze money out of those dumb enough to be squeezed. i applaud microsofts boldness. the amount of shit they pull requires skill.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:50 No.3052073
    >>3051914
    except they are already killing themselves with shitty products, this would be driving their business into the ground faster.
    >> Servitor !!hsioepxkME6 12/30/08(Tue)00:52 No.3052087
    >>3051543
    >>3051615
    >>3051694
    >For consumers, Microsoft said, the advantage of such a model would be a lower price at the outset for a powerful PC.~

    Devil's advocate here. I agree with your evaluation of the intended use of this service, honestly.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:53 No.3052100
    >>3052073
    oh really? people bought vista. consider that.
    >> Servitor !!hsioepxkME6 12/30/08(Tue)00:53 No.3052103
    >>3051781
    It's the principal of the matter. Most of what we rage over has no affect on us, but it's still worth raging over.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:54 No.3052112
    And now Apple has a new customer.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:55 No.3052117
    >>3052100

    Vista wasn't shit no matter how much you macfags want to believe.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:55 No.3052121
    >>3052100
    and less people bought vista than xp. they've been LOSING market share for years.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:56 No.3052132
    >>3052112
    why would you go from a company that will rape your wallet to one that will rape you wallet harder.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)00:59 No.3052141
    >>3052121
    down to 99.999999%
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)01:02 No.3052173
    >>3052103
    >It's the principal of the matter
    >principal
    DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)01:03 No.3052189
    >>3052141
    depending on who you ask, it's between 80 and 91%. They lost this market share to an OS that is hugely inflated and OSs that don't ship with any major OEM.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)01:04 No.3052193
    >>3052121
    vista has been out for alot less time than XP, and it has gotten easier to torrent OSes.

    you are retarded.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)01:07 No.3052221
    >>3052117
    >> Vista wasn't shit no matter how much you macfags want to believe.
    Well, it was and still is.
    If it was only Macfags saying it was you'd have a point.
    But when rusted-on Winfags like Enderle say it is you have to take notice.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)01:07 No.3052224
    >>3052193
    people are torrenting XP to replace the vista on their computers.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)01:14 No.3052275
    >>3051781

    The main problem is that I get a lot of my computer stuff as gifts. The way things are going, I might have to start just asking for cash now.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)01:33 No.3052438
    They will never implement this system all across the board. And if they do, the competition will be there to take away an exodus of former Microsoft users.

    Also, as much as I love my LUNACKS, there will never be the year of the Linux Desktop. And that does not bother me at all.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)01:51 No.3052593
    This patent thing is for their cloud computing service, most likely.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)02:03 No.3052681
    >>3052438
    >> Also, as much as I love my LUNACKS, there will never be the year of the Linux Desktop. And that does not bother me at all.
    What does bother me is the constant posting on websites of the assertion that next year will be.
    The fact that some people don't understand why it'll never happen is the reason it'll never happen.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)02:07 No.3052704
    >>3052681
    I don't think it going to be a sudden thing, but I think linux's takeover is inevitable. Windows isn't keeping up anymore, and it'll be a long time before Win7 comes out, and even longer until they've made it stop sucking with SP1(every release of windows has sucked unntil a few patches, see 98SE and XP SP2).
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)02:11 No.3052725
    > linux's takeover is inevitable
    With out ANY sort of UI standard, apps, or advancing graphics protocol (OpenGL 3.0 LOL), Linux will get no where on the desktop.

    >it'll be a long time before Win7 comes out
    1Q 2010. Sounds like a long ways away but thats only 12-14 months. And Beta 1 feels RTM already.

    And you retards dont realism the pay for app use thing is an OPTION. If you don't own a said app but only need it for a few hours for a project or whatever then you can do this. Thats all it is.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)02:14 No.3052750
    >>3052725
    Windows betas tend to be better than the inital release. I don't know how they pull it off but they do, and it takes them a while to fix.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)02:18 No.3052770
    >>3052725
    GNOME has standards, KDE has standards, good apps for almost any purpose, and Compiz beats the shit out of Aero.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)02:18 No.3052776
    >>3052725

    >(OpenGL 3.0 LOL)

    i dont understand what you are trying to say here. opengl 3 is in linux as well as osx.
    please dont try to tell me directx is the best graphics technology on the face of the planet.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)02:24 No.3052812
    >>3052776
    >dont try to tell me directx is the best graphics technology on the face of the planet.
    Unfortunately it is. Especially with the advances that they are making in version 11. I'm all about open standards as a developer myself, and I don't like the market being driven by Direct X, but the Khronos Group droped the fucking ball. Read up about it.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/opengl-directx,2019.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL

    OpenGL will never go away, mainly due to OSX, but it will resume playing catch up for a LONG time.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)02:25 No.3052818
    >>3052725

    Bitches don't know about gtk and qt.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)02:30 No.3052864
    >>3052812

    >A bunch of crap about an unreleased api like its a standard already.

    AFAIK opengl is currently on par with directx.


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