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    11 KB Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:19 No.2857454  
    how important is a degree?

    I have failed a shitload of classes so far and I doubt I can even graduate now. My gpa must be like .8 or something. I have a presentation due tomorrow for my web design class and I'm not even going to go. If I just take classes for the sole purpose of gaining the knowledge and say fuck grades will I still be able to land an alright job later? I always see job listings on craigslist for php, css, html coders and things like that and they mostly just require experience not degrees.

    What do you think /g/?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:22 No.2857476
    Do companies check your grades when they hire you?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:23 No.2857478
    >>2857476
    They check your degree.

    OP- You're fucked.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:24 No.2857486
    OP is screwed, just like I fucked myself over too. say goodbye to financial aid, if you still have it.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:25 No.2857495
    >>2857478
    Yeah I probably am. Oh well I can always an hero.

    >>2857486
    Nah I pay for it. Community college is really cheap.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:27 No.2857503
    >>2857454
    lol craigslist. lol.

    9/10
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:27 No.2857512
    It depends on what you want to do OP. Personally I've been taking for classes for the actual knowledge, yet I have no plans to graduate. The last job I got hired at asked if I had a degree, when I told them yes they never bothered to do any sort of check.

    The thing is social networking really is more important. I know a bunch of people with kickass jobs who landed them just because they knew someone who worked there, and knew how to take an interview.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:29 No.2857520
    my last firm never checked out undergrad degrees. as long as you could hack the interviews, you were fine. that was for low-level stuff, though. the positions that required graduate degrees also required transcripts, along with recommendations, sometimes publications, etc.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:30 No.2857531
    >>2857503
    what? you can find local jobs in your city on there if you search right.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:31 No.2857533
    >>2857495
    have fun paying $1600 out of your pocket. and don't forget the costly books!
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:33 No.2857542
    Oh shut the fuck up you lazy arrogant assholes.

    If you're there to learn for real, then learn for real and take the exams. do the presentations and turn in the papers. On the premise that knowledge is the reason you're there, it's irrational not to do the things aforementioned since they are all in some way productive for your learning.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:34 No.2857548
    >>2857542
    Why should they? Once they learn the shit then who cares what grade they get?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:38 No.2857576
    ITT dumbasses who can't pass college and try to rationalize it
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:42 No.2857606
    >>2857548

    You must be fucking retarded. Think about this, as opposed to only passively assimilating knowledge, the act of writing a paper or doing an assignment or even taking a test forces one to think about the subject more intensely and thoroughly.

    I didn't say anything about grades. Although, if you get shit grades when you're supposedly there to learn for real, you're either deceiving yourself or you're fucking retarded and should do something else. I suppose both could apply as well.

    And besides, when you want to learn for real, either as a means to an end or just for the hell of it... WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO GET THE DEGREE WHEN THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON NOT TO?</CC>
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:44 No.2857617
    >>2857542
    lol sorry, i paid for the damn schooling, i think i should grade myself.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:45 No.2857623
    >>2857606
    Cuz man fuck the system. Learn for the sake of learning not for arbitrary grades or degrees.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:45 No.2857631
    >>2857476
    Yes. It pretty much goes like this:

    - Company has a position open with 100 applicants.
    - Due to time constraints, they only interview 5
    - The lower 95 people (based on CV) are therefore instantly dropped.

    If there's a choice between "hay guys, I'm totally great at this" and "hay guys, I'm totally great at this AND I have the certification from an accredited university to back it up" it's always the latter.

    Sure, experience might make up for a degree, but it has to be actual reliable experience - usually a senior position in a major company held for several years. And you won't get into such a position while you have shit references.

    So yeah, you don't need a degree, but it'll usually take you 15+ years of hard (read: helpdesk, support, shit like that) jobs to get enough *valid* experience to compensate.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:45 No.2857632
    oh know, we're agrivating the grading police of /g/
    everyone watch out
    having fun pleasing your teacher both on and off of campus geeks.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:46 No.2857633
    striving for 4s in all classes this semester.
    but some are just ridiculous, they set the line at 95%. who the fuck is gonna do that good?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:46 No.2857637
    They should get rid of grades altogether.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:47 No.2857648
    >>2857631
    due to time constaints?
    maybe those jerk offs should've started looking thru those apps EARLIER and done a more thorough search. lazy fucks.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:48 No.2857653
    >>2857623

    I do hope you're trolling.

    Grades are the exact opposite of arbitrary. DON'T JUST THROW AROUND WORDS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.

    I really fucking do hope you're trolling.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:48 No.2857654
    >>2857637
    seconded.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:48 No.2857656
    >>2857576
    Half this. When you're 18-25 and you have no experience that's worth anything (and working at your redneck town's supermarket isn't valid experience), you need a degree. When you're 45 and you're going from executive position to executive position between corporations, they'll care about whom you know, with whom and on what you worked, and what you can actually demonstrate you've brought to the table before.

    You could wipe your ass with your degree at 40 and later, but only because you relied on it long enough when you were a bright-eyed idiot to stand on your own.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:49 No.2857664
    Wait, is it sunday evening? Oh yeah, that explains why /g/ is shit.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:52 No.2857676
    >>2857648
    Let me rephrase this: All those 95 losers just aren't worth wasting money on, so why interview them? "Time constraints" simply means that they're not worth the time (in monetary terms) of interviewing. Sure, you might miss that hidden guru who's been hiding on an island for the last 20 years completing his secret code ninja training, but most likely you'll just miss 95 incompetents...
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)21:58 No.2857697
    Well looks like my future is fucked. An hero or criminal are my only choices now.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)22:00 No.2857711
    >>2857454
    >If I just take classes for the sole purpose of gaining the knowledge and say fuck grades
    >they mostly just require experience not degrees.

    So do you have experience? Have you coded stuff that you can show to employers?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)22:20 No.2857857
    rofl

    so sad to see college dropouts trying to justify their FAILings.

    "I jus want to learnz aboutz da wurldz...knowledgez is mo importants than paper degrezz"

    "Duuurrrrr I'm 18 and I hav plentyz of EXP to justify my no degree status"

    You might not agree with the college process, hate the grades, and think the entire system is fucked, but it's just one hurdle you need to jump over in order to move upwards in society. There is a GLUT (SAT vocab omg!) of educated men and women in most first world countries and that's the first criterion any decent company will use to weed out the white collar from the blue collar.

    If you can't even get over that easy, single hurdle then I'd like a #1 with fries and a coke. Take my order son! Enjoy your McDonalds career, your trailer park home, and your lower class status.
    >> !Nigger/OcE 12/07/08(Sun)22:22 No.2857872
    Senior in college here.
    I'm about to fail a class that I need to graduate next semester and it isn't offered next semester. I don't even know if I've picked the right major now and am looking forward to working at McDonald's for a while.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)22:26 No.2857908
    >>2857857
    If I end up like that then I will have nothing to lose and I will kill bitches like you with no remorse.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)22:26 No.2857909
    Op you'll do just fine,
    Keep your chin up bro,
    Never give up.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)22:27 No.2857916
    >>2857631
    Listen to this man. In this economy, employers can be very picky about who they hire. This isn't the dot com bubble when any shithead that said a few buzzwords in an interview could get hired.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)22:28 No.2857928
    >>2857697
    A college degree isn't required for life; only about 25% of people ever get degrees. Go out, get a job, maybe try again when you're ready.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)22:31 No.2857953
    >>2857928
    You NEED a degree! The studies that were paid for by college recruiters say so!
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)22:32 No.2857965
    >>2857872 working at McDonald's for a while
    Dude, we're in the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression where there was 25% unemployment. You're going to be shiving people with the same degree you have plus fifteen years experience to get a McDonald's job.
    >> !Nigger/OcE 12/07/08(Sun)22:33 No.2857985
    >>2857965
    >You're going to be shiving people with the same degree you have plus fifteen years experience to get a McDonald's job.
    That would be..no degree?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)22:37 No.2858014
    >>2857985
    Definitely college educated. Who else would be nitpicking when he should be sharpening his shiv?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/08(Sun)22:40 No.2858039
    >>2857965

    Maybe so if you're working in Finance or the auto industry. If you are, GG.

    For those of us who actually understood how the system worked (i.e. need a degree), decided to work within the system (obtaining said degree) instead of bitching and complaining about why there are grades and classes and professors, and then finally deciding to proceed with further education by getting a graduate degree in some profession (i.e. medicine, law, academia): things look the same way they did yesterday and will look more or less the same tomorrow.

    Now, after I graduate, I will definitely enjoy my six figure starting salary. I'll have my secretary make a note to remind me to donate to the local soup kitchen so they can feed the rest of your starving asses who decided college degrees were too hard. Lulz.


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