[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k] [cm / hm / y] [3 / adv / an / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / hc / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / po / pol / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / wsg / x] [rs] [status / q / @] [Settings] [Home]
Board:  
Settings   Home
4chan
/g/ - Technology
Text Boards: /tech/ & /prog/


Posting mode: Reply
Name
E-mail
Subject
Comment
Verification
reCAPTCHA challenge image
Get a new challenge Get an audio challengeGet a visual challenge Help
File
Password (Password used for file deletion)
  • Supported file types are: GIF, JPG, PNG
  • Maximum file size allowed is 3072 KB.
  • Images greater than 250x250 pixels will be thumbnailed.
  • Read the rules and FAQ before posting.
  • Japanese このサイトについて - 翻訳
  • You may highlight syntax and preserve whitespace by using [code] tags.


→ FIRST NEWS POST PUBLISHED IN OVER FOUR YEARS ←
*CLICK*


Every user should read this. And if you're looking for a blast from the past, check out the archived news posts.

Site is 100% functional again. Sorry about the extended downtime. On the plus side, posting might be snappier now.

File: 1345581630608.jpg-(60 KB, 640x480, 245854.jpg)
60 KB
The best program to ever come out on Windows 8
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/

And before you ask, it's MIT licensed so it respects your freedom.
>>
Is this what I think it is?
>>
>freedom
>windows
>>
>>27058264
can it do a Windows-7-like start menu on 8?

And has anyone got Win8 on their MSDNAA/Dreamspark yet?
>>
>Click start
>Move mouse to programs, click programs
>Move mouse to accessories, click accessories
>Move mouse to paint, click paint

Is this how people use their fucking computers today?
>>
>>27058325
Yep, and it gets rid of the hot corners so you don't even have to use Metro if you don't want to.
>>
>>27058335
>doesn't use the list of frequently used programs
Wow, this guy.
>>
>old-style instead of a combination menu and search start panel
>2012
The fuck you doing
>>
>>27058264
What happens when you start typing after hitting start? Search is all I use it for.
>>
and if you accidentally uninstall a preinstalled program you have to pay to use it again on windows
>>
>>27058264
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/
What's the use of installing Windows 8 if you're just going to use Windows 7 assets?
>>
>>27058459
There are some improvements under the hood like faster boot up for example and a better looking explorer+ribbon. A better task manager too and win+x. Shit like that.
>>
>>27058335
Clicking? You just have to hover.
>>
>>27058418
You can invoke search, not sure how it works with Windows 8 but I'm sure there's a good wrapper there.
Also, why not just pin it to the taskbar? That's what all the smart people are doing.
>>
is it a program or a shell replacement?
>>
>>27058521
Because I'm used to hit windows key and start typing. It is fast that way.

On windows 8 it works the same but they fucked it up by searching only for applications by default, you have to move the mouse and click on files afterwards to search for files. That's basically the only complain I have about the start screen but it is a big deal.
>>
>>27058496
>faster bootup
Useless
>ribbon
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHNo
>better task manager
A little better, nothing special.

No reason to upgrade and have to deal with a shitty start screen or some hackish crap to implement shit that win7 got right to begin with.
>>
>>27058561
metro doesnt get viruses!
>>
>>27058561
>useless, pointless, crap because I don't need it

That's a really cool opinion
>>
Dear diary,

Today OP was not a faggot.
>>
>>27058594
Neither do Macs but Macs don't have a fisher price UI.
>>
>>27058595
Why do you need faster booting? Bragging rights? Because your mommy makes you turn your computer off at night and when you go to school because she's paranoid the internets might get to it?
>>
>>27058612
OSX looks a bit childish to me.
>>
how do i activate windows 8?
>>
>>27058628
Because of your autism.
>>
I bet MS will try some shit to block it

but if not then god bless.

How do you get to Metro though? I hate Metro but I'm sure I'll still need it
>>
>>27058612
>Neither do Macs but Macs don't have a fisher price UI.

Wait, you're joking right?

Next time, please use a [sarcasm] tag.
>>
File: 1345582767040.jpg-(225 KB, 470x598, Start-Menu.jpg)
225 KB
http://lee-soft.com/vistart/
>>
Why dont you fags just get a mac?
>>
>>27058620
>Why do you need faster booting? Bragging rights?
No, because it starts faster.

I used my dad's W7 PC last day and it was on sleep mode. That shit took 10 seconds to wake up. On 8 wake up from sleep is instantaneous.
>>
>>27058264
HAHAHA FUCKING FAGGOT

Instead of progressing with change, you retreat like a bitch.

This is just like any windows XP user afraid of upgrading to windows 7
>>
>>27058651
Can't into drag and drop.
>>
>>27058640
Nah, I think it has to do with those colorful icons, reflections, cute animations and things like that.
>>
>>27058671
>all change is good
Why don't you change yourself from alive to dead?
>>
>>27058688
>All change is bad
How about you try it first and stick with it for a few weeks instead of complaining?
>>
>>27058264
Is is still easy to hide my porn with Windows 8?

I better not fucking see a preview pic of my CP on the metro bar.
>>
>>27058651
Is it FOSS?
No?
No thanks.
>>
So is there a fix that stops windows from removing your edits to the hosts file?
>>
>>27058701
Did that, can't boot to desktop or save documents to start menu.
Metro applications are crap
So I'm not using it.
>>
>>27058723
Install an AV?
>>
File: 1345583012828.png-(305 KB, 1592x1408, 1343634262570.png)
305 KB
>>27058688
>>
>>27058723
Wha...?
>>
>>27058701
We already have. It's shit.
>>
>>27058734

If you use Windows Defender (MSE) it ignores you, the user of the computer, and fiddles with your host file for 'security'.
>>
>>27058701
Why change when what you currently have works perfectly for your needs?
Do you change house every 2 weeks just because some faggot tells you to?
> I'm replying to a troll
>>
>>27058748
Yes, that's why I said install another AV.
>>
>>27058749
>Every 2 weeks
Windows 7 is 3 years old, but mkay.

And no one is asking you to buy it, you can simply stick with windows 7, why push it to the following OS?

Well simply because it hurts your pride, everyone in here is used to upgrading, but if you can't stick with new things, then you are better off become old and rotten.
>>
File: 1345583286311.png-(5 KB, 300x100, 135ip.png)
5 KB
4chan hates change
>>
You know, it's a lot easier to just have the program either pinned to the top of your start menu, or to type programname then press enter, right?
>>
>>27058740
This. Even with an unofficial Windows 8 shell, they're still shoving that Metro shit down everyone's throat, the ribbon is horrible, and the addition of their own 'app store' integrated into the OS is unacceptable. Throw that on top of this being an unofficial patch (i.e. MS can 'fix' it at any time), along with the fact that there's very few benefits to switching to 8, other than enhanced built-in spyware so malware producers don't even have to make it.

Not going to support that shit. I'll stick with 7 and Arch Linux until Windows 9 (if they get they're shit together). Otherwise, fuck vidya.
>>
Oh God no not that fucking start menu. It's terrible. Couldn't they at least have used the Windows 7/Vista one?
The XP one does not have search, and it's very easy to close a bunch of sub folders by accident.
>>
why would you use an OS with government backdoors?
>>
>>27058810

my sides
>>
>>27058264
Classic shell fucking sucks.
>>
>>27058836
I think the Metro UI is pretty cool. And having an app store in windows is convenient to find software. Specially because the good ones will become popular and you'll right away know which ones are good and bad.
>>
>>27058799
Not to mention, windows has been using the same UI for over 20 years now. It's really time for computer to look different and dynamic, accordingly to our time.
>>
>>27058885
Please be a troll. Please.

I beg of you.
>>
>>27058885
Metro apps are terrible
>>
>>27058857
Got any solid proof to support that claim?
>>
>>27058931
They are still in beta stages, what did you expect?
>>
>>27058938
This is /g/, you should be used to people talking out of their asses by now.
>>
>>27058857
Lanux has NSA security baked in...
>>
>>27058938
If there's fucking holes in OpenBSD for the NSA, you damn well would think Windows would have one as well.
>>
>>27058946
This is with the RTM release.
They still such and always will. That's what happens when you try to push HTML and Silverlight into an 'application'.
>>
>>27058938

It's not really that he needs a statement to support the claim, it's that it can't really be counter-proved. Even if Microsoft didn't let feds in the probability that they are already in and no-one knows it is pretty damn high.
>>
>>27058982
Yes the OS might be RTM, but apps are always constantly being updated.

I'm guessing you've never owned an iOS device?
>>
>>27058701
>implying we haven't already used it for a while, decided what changes we like, and what old stuff we want back
>>
File: 1345583929905.jpg-(314 KB, 1400x1050, ss.jpg)
314 KB
Windows Classic master race
>>
>>27058961
I take that as you don't actually have any proof?
I am sorry but I am skeptic and do not believe in rumors or speculations without any solid evidence.

>>27058982
The apps in the store are still pretty much in beta. Also, as far as I know developers are not allowed to add their apps to the store yet so we don't know what kind of programs will appear.

>>27058985
Well the burden of proof is on the one making the claim.
>>
>>27059025
>Implying windows will listen to a bunch of whiney bitches in a forum.

Better start getting used to the new windows faggot.
>>
>>27059043
I'm also talking about the system apps, like the Music app and IE Metro.
Terrible, absolutely terrible.
>>
>>27059126
Yep, still in beta.
>>
>>27059043
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20025767-281.html
OpenBSD has 'em, why the fuck wouldn't the most used OS in the world, used mainly in businesses and the average person have a backdoor for the FBI? You're fucking retarded if you don't think the probability isn't extremely high when a security-based _open source_ distro has one.

Yes, I have no direct proof because if there was, MS would have been sued a thousand times over. Fortunately for them, their OS is riddled with more holes than swiss cheese anyway.
>>
>>27059049
It's a bit late now, but they did not only reply but also make changes to Windows 8 as responses from comments on their blog.
A lot of people complained about the ribbon in explorer being down by default, so they changed it to be hidden by default. They also replied to lots of messages and comments in a blog post and so on.

>>27059126
Well yes but so are the build in applications in Windows 7.
Third party applications might be very good. If only you could run them in a window...
>>
>>27058628
OSX looks sleek, it lacks colors and uses shades of white, grey, and black occasionally dipping into some blues and rarely other colors of the spectrum. Metro on the other handy uses a wide variety of bright gaudy colors meant to stimulate a child's mind.

OSX is for professionals who need to get work done while Windows is for kiddies who want to play games.
>>
>>27058620
You imply that the person is a kid, but you don't see the need to reduce electricity bills? You're either spoilt, have loads of money or have a shit grasp of money.
>>
>>27059149
OK so you do not have any proof at all.
In that case, please do not say
>why would you use an OS with government backdoors?
in the future. At least say
>why would you use an OS which might have government backdoors?
>>
>>27059049
>implying we need microsoft to change shit
what's to get used to when there's always third parties to let us have our cake and eat it too?
>>
>>27059036
Yea bro, that Chrome thing looks really classic.
>>
>>27059162
The sad thing is, as-of Windows 8 I can no longer debate this point. It's just gaudy and looks like Xbox Live but shittified.

(Almost) any Linux distro >>>> OS X > Shit > Windows 8, speaking solely from an OS perspective.

Doesn't change the fact that Apple hardware is a complete waste of money, however.
>>
>>27059188
Correction.
> Why would you use an OS which likely has government backdoors, given that even a niche security-based open source distro has one?
>>
>>27059238
>(Almost) any Linux distro >>>> OS X > Shit > Windows 8

I would say for general enterprise applications OSX is more useful than Linux. However for very specialized applications, particularly in science, Linux edges OSX out as you have near total control of the OS.

Windows 8 is still bottom of the barrel though.
>>
Windows is known to be vulnerable to malware, thus it is pretty likely that feds have their own backdoors.
>>
>>27059154
>>27059144
Read RTM, release to manufacturers.
This is the final version of those built in applications.
If they still suck that badly, there's going to be problems.
>>
>>27059300
That's better.
>>
>>27059162
>OSX is for professionals who need to get work done while Windows is for kiddies who want to play games.

hahaha!

OSX has quite possibly the most cumbersome interface I've ever had the displeasure of using. It's no surprise that when Windows finally tries to imitate the glitz and glamor of OSX, it fails too.

Nothing on OSX even compares to sleekness and efficiency of the Windows start bar. That's why most serious linux OSes try to imitate it. The fail builds (like Elementary OS) look pretty but the fisher price UI of Mac OS X really holds it back.
>>
>>27059462
If I had to compare the Mac OS Dock to something, it would be like a brightly-colored set of children's blocks, ideal for your first words—dog, cat, run, Spot, run—but not too effective for displaying the contents of War and Peace.
>>
File: 1345585313511.png-(27 KB, 35x1440, lolwattafuckhahahalolican(...).png)
27 KB
>>27059462
I agree. The taskbar style of windows is amazing, too bad they never graduated out of using it for window management.
>>
>>27059346
As far as I know, the applications will still be updated from this point. Pretty sure that's what Microsoft said. I wouldn't worry about the apps, because the company knows that they're the point of the new interface.
>>
>fishing through menus to open a program
huh
I just hit Super+D and start typing the name of the program.
lolwinfags
>>
File: 1345585605479.png-(46 KB, 550x263, snapshot.png)
46 KB
>>27059565
is that some sort of hipster version of alt-f2?
>>
Why don't you plebes just push Windows key and then start typing the name of the program you want? That's all you have to do.
>>
>>27059618
>He has a windows key
oh wow
>>
>>27059503
>implying the taskbar isn't just a variation on the dock

Even still, OSX outclasses Windows as Finder is far better than Explorer for browsing though Files. Quick Look is best for previewing files (it should be noted Windows has no equivalent to Quick Look) and you have spotlight for quick searches. Course I guess you wouldn't know if you stuck to your gayman OS all your life.
>>
>>27059630
das keyboard master race, suck me faggot
>>
>>27059565
>I just hit Super+D and start typing the name of the program.
>lolwinfags

Funny how Windows has had that functionality with Ctrl+W since 1995.
>>
File: 1345585777309.png-(159 KB, 412x739, Untitled.png)
159 KB
>>27059613
is that some sort of hipster version of windows key?
>>
>>27059653
IBM Model M.

It can beat you and your keyboard in over 700 ways.
>>
>>27058264
Is it riceable?
>>
>>27059548
>don't worry, M$ know best
okay
>>
>>27059655
Really? Because I'm using Windows right now amd ctrl+W only seems to close my tab in Firefox.
>>
>>27059687
prove it faggot
>>
>>27059718
>Really? Because I'm using Windows right now amd ctrl+W only seems to close my tab in Firefox.

Have you tried CTRL+f4? Maybe your ctrl+w is just rusty.
>>
>>27059674
>implying you can search for windows open on all virtual desktops from the start menu

>implying you even have virtual desktops

>implying your Alt+Tab isn't a piece of shit

>implying start menu search can run commands

Enjoy being stuck in 2001 faggot.

>>27059655
hahahaha
>>
>>27059743
Nope, nothing.
>>
>>27058671
No, this like a windows xp user refusing to use Vista
>>
File: 1345586246411.jpg-(69 KB, 1280x800, it's like a gayer start menu.jpg)
69 KB
so what's wrong with metro? it's basically the start menu mixed with desktop icons.

only problem I have with it is I cant pin .bat files to the start menu
>>
File: 1345586412644.png-(601 KB, 700x912, LUX.png)
601 KB
>>27059313
>>27059313

>I would say for general enterprise applications OSX

Domain join is a broken shit stain on OSX.

Active Directory is a no go

ANd they have some fucked version of EAS on there, the sad thing is iOS has better EAS capabilities than OSX.

No legitimate business that wants to run efficiently and securely uses OSX.
>>
>>27059835
The way there is a delay when it minimizes the Metro and until you see the program and can use it.

Gets old quick.
>>
>>27059720
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little proprietry bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the FSF, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Apple patents, and I have over 300 confirmed bug fixes. I am trained in Free Software Evangelizing and I'm the top code contributer for the entire GNU HURD. You are nothing to me but just another compile time error. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am building a GUI using GTK+ and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can decompile you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my Model M. Not only am I extensively trained in EMACS, but I have access to the entire arsenal of LISP functions and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit Freedom all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking debugged, kiddo.
>>
>>27059918
didn't read


Delete Post [File Only] Password
Style
[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k] [cm / hm / y] [3 / adv / an / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / hc / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / po / pol / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / wsg / x] [rs] [status / q / @] [Settings] [Home]
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

- futaba + yotsuba -
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.