>I've run 4chan at a loss for a while nowI never understood this? how is he running this site at a loss? he must have a million views a day
The server alone costs $25000/month.
Hookers and blow don't come cheap.
>implying anyone buys striped pantsu
>>25131172notice how little ads there are on this site?
>>25131172>he must have a million views a dayHow do you think that this makes him win enough money, you fucking retard?
>>25131172He has two cheap ads that most people block.
moot needs to bribe a lot of feds to keep the site open
With little advertisement revenue. At least I think..
>>25131172jews
Why are subhuman desktop ricers so stupid?
>>25131201There are ads on 4chan?
>>25131201>>25131215because peoples shitty blogs seem to make quite a lot. Twit.tv being a good example.
I wonder what his other source of income is
>>25131239>part of the problem
>>25131239There are Ads in YT videos too! Can you believe that? I nearly slapped the shit out of someone when they claimed YT put Ads in the beginning of their videos.
>>25131248male gigolowhy else does he work out?
>>25131172Lots of people use adblock. I for one consider adblock to be immoral so I don't use it, my views add to the ad money. Sometimes I even clickthrough when I see something interesting on the j-list banners.
He's gotta pay to suck cloudfare's dic
4chan is the only site i disable adblock on
>>25131248This, What does he do for a living?
Since the ads are hosted here (static.4chan.org) he wouldn't get paid per view, right?Unless they go by Google Analytics, in which case blocking the ads doesn't affect anything.
>>25131270This, I was just about to say it, don't be faggots the ads are barely noticeable (compared to other sites), whitelist 4chan.
Why doesn't he put Google Ad sense adverts on?
>>25131265Clicks for J-List doesn't mean anything. You need to buy something to for the host to get money.
>>25131248>>25131281canv.asAlso >>25131264>tfw moot's gym membership bankrupts the site
>>25131265While more then average 4chan users probably use adblock, the largest portion are 12 year olds on /b/ who i cant imagine do
>>25131293yeah nah
>>25131305There are no ads on /b/.
>>25131265>lots of peopleOn /g/, yes, but overall, the number of 4chan visitors using some sort of ad blocking is neglible. As for the "rest of the net", almost nobody uses it.
>>25131299You're a fucking idiot. That's not true. Exposure is valuable as well. Why else would television commercials be broadcasted?
>>25131270>disable Adblock on 4chan>implying I'm going to let Google Analytics track me
>>25131333I think on /g/ religiously uses adblock/noscript
>>25131329You're right. Why the hell is that?>moot in charge of making money
>>25131329The ads come in posts there.
>>25131349only*i got off work an hour agoleave me be
>running a site like 4chan for profitYou don't understand how the internet is supposed to work, do you?OH I WANT TO PUT UP A COOL SITE THAT HAS NO ACTUAL WAY TO MAKE MONEYS BUT I WANT TO MAKE MONEYS OFF OF IT ANYWAY BECAUSE INTERNET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
>>25131350Who would want to advertise on /b/, board known for sharing illegal content, viraling and organising half-assed DDoS attacks? Even most porn sites would avoid it.
>>25131348Shouldn't you be fine as long as you disable Javascript?
>>25131396why would anyone want to advertise at an animecon?but toyota does.They even use hatsune as a spokewoman
>>25131348i leave analytics blocked in noscript
>>25131289Guys please respond.I'm seriously considering blocking ads on 4chan now. There seems to be literally no benefit.I may turn them into text links so I can click through every now and then to make moot some cash money, but I'm not very likely to do that. I accidentally click them more than I intentionally do.
>>25131391He could accept donations... but he doesn't. I don't think he really wants to make money from this website.
>>25131431Otakus spend obscene amounts of money on jap junk. /b/tards aren't known for spending money.
>>25131399GA has JavaScript-free version AFAIK. Blockig it at router level is the safest approach.
>>25131446He can't accept donations. Don't you remember what happened last time he did?
>>25131451Only that most weaboo, especially from /g/, doesn't buy shit from Jlist.We have newegg for all our computing and weaboo needs.
>>25131256all of my rage when friends hate on youtube ads because they are too retarded to install adblock
i disagree
>>25131391As I couldnt out, there are many tech review sites like twit.tv that make money purely on ads, An awful lot of money.However, 4chan runs at a loss? I would expect him to at least make some sort of profit even if you cant get premium adspace. Fucking leo laporte makes millions a year.
>>25131475no, what?
>>25131475What happened? I know he refuses to accept donations, but I didn't know there was a reason.
>>25131501>>25131493>Donations are unreliable and frankly, unacceptable. Literally, we can't accept them. There isn't a single online payment gateway around that is willing to touch 4chan with a ten foot pole; we've checked! If you've investigated and found otherwise, feel free to e-mail me your findings. http://www.4chan.org/news?all#87
>>25131487My friends are all smart enough to install Adblock.The hilarious part is, they use Chrome. So it makes no difference for them!
People here surely cannot into basic psychology.The only reason he mentioned that the site is going at a loss, is because he wants sympathy and for people to think of him more highly because he "sacrifices himself in order to keep 4chan running".The only reason he hasn't abandoned 4chan yet, despite it costing him money (assuming he doesn't lie out his ass about that part), is because he loves and needs the attention people here give him.
>>25131431Miku is universally loved character tied to very expensive semi-professional software developed by Yamaha that's guaranteed to boost sales with certain audience that's known for spending silly amount of money on plastic figures and collector items. That's a hell of difference compared to board that spams CP, gore, rascist jokes and DDoS inhabited by underage pirates.
>>25131526what?I use adblock with chrome and i'v never seen a ad on yt in my life.
>>25131516That's why Bitcoins exist.
>>25131516I'm surprised. /b/ sees themselves as 2edgy hardcore, but businesses see 4chan as influential.
>>25131172He isn't. Just because he says so, it doesn't make it so. He can't possibly be running a website this big with at a loss for nine years.
>retards at /b/ ddos paypal>uhhh why they no longer want to make a donation deal with 4chan anymore/b/ is the source of all problemsBAN THOSE 15 YEAR OLDS ALL OF THEM
>>25131564That includes you.
>>25131548Maybe it would work with bitcoins. Last time moot did business with paypal someone complained to them and they banned 4chan, moot lost all his money.>>25131564This happened years before /b/ ddos'd paypal.
>>25131526This shit again. Chrome stops ad loading since early 2011.
>>25131516So tell people how to transfer the money manually.
I already spent like 100 dollars on j-list. bought some yuri hime wild roses but they are too expensive honestly.
He gets paid by the FBI.
>>25131583No, it doesn't. Because they constantly complain to me about it.Chrome is shit. Get over your horrible choice in browsers and just accept its pathetic limitations.
>>25131545No, I mean toyota uses hatsume as a spokeswoman at animecons.I'm not kidding in the slightest.and the audience of an animecon isnt much better then 4chan.Besides, have you been on /b/ lately? its 90% normafags.
>>25131480>newegg sells weeaboo shit
Moot can't into finance
>retards believing moot's lieslike fuck it's running at a loss, he's been lying about that since fucking 2005
>>25131599Yes it does.Do you have any arguments besides insults? Because I do: http://code.google.com/chrome/extensions/trunk/webRequest.html
>I've ran*
>>25131630I don't care either way. While 4chan is shit most of the time, I come to the place so much I want it to be successful so it will stay in existence.
>>25131218But why? I'm he could get more ads than the "J-List!".
>>25131661>I'm he
moot makes poor decisions all the time.I can easily believe he's losing money.
>>25131661>implying any company other than J-List (which is probably moot's) wants to touch 4chin with a 100-ft pole
>>25131661>We've always put a strong emphasis on preserving our so-called "user experience", to the point where we've shortchanged ourselves a number of times in terms of lucrative advertising deals so as to not detract from it.
He makes little to nothing in advertising revenue. Do you really think J-List makes enough to satisfy the costs? Fuck no. All the real money milkers such as JPMorgan, RaymondJames, or even something basic like Carbonite won't come because of 4Chan's reputation. They don't want to be associated with this website, and probably think there's nothing to gain from advertising to this group (NEETs and dead broke students.)He's been going at a loss for years and years now. How are you actually surprised about this?
>>25131304But canv.as is rather new. What did he do before?
Chrome stops ads from downloading, doesn't just hide them.
>>25131607And Yamaha pays them to do so, while this boosts attendance on Toyota's promotional event. Smart product placement. And people attending real event are much more likely to buy something than people visiting some website with ad banners.And /b/ might be less "gruesome" (I use the term loosely) than it used to be, but its history is still giving it bad rep.Whatever happened to canv.as, anyway?
>>25131687bakaJ-list is run by Peter
>>25131721>implying that's not moot with a mask
>>25131706He worked for a web developing/marketing company last time I checked (some years ago.) Anyways money to host this site comes out of pocket sometimes.
>>25131687Most ad companies dont even know what websites their ads are being served on. 99% of all adult sites dont give a shit at all
>>25131688Yeah, right. Is that why we have to type CAPTCHAs every time we post?
>>25131304But is it worth it Moot?
>>25131706masturbate to poorly drawn japanese porn and attend college cs 101
Authorities are probably paying him.He helps them and concentrates many pedophiles and other scum on a single site (on /b/).They wouldn't want to lose it for something that is harder to find/ an admin that wouldn't help them as much.
>>25131744He can't become the little girl with that approach.
Few legitimate businesses would want to advertise on 4chan and have their product associated with the paedophiles and retards here.
>>25131265>I for one consider adblock to be immoralThe jews have done a good job here. Saty consumerist.
>>25131756Wow people still believe this bullshit? I'm disappointed /g/.
moots a fucking liar. He said cloudfare is giving him the service free when he first started using it.
>>25131756Not in this fiscal environment. DoJ focuses their limited resources on major distributors and abusers. There's no funding to go after the little fish.
I swear it was just two months ago that moot said he breaks even with 4chan.
>implying Google didn't buy 4chan in 2011
You guys are retarded. If he needed the money, he'd put AdSense or something in this and make hundreds if not thousands of dollars every single day. He obviously doesn't need the money, or the overhead is simply too small to be relevant.You guys believing that J-List doesn't pay him enough are pretty dumb, too.
>>25131773How do porn sites make money, then?
>>25131801I've done my part, I bought my first onahole from J-List.What have you faggots done?
>>25131784He did.
>>25131808they sell porn, generally
>>25131808Premium memberships
He's not, he's just being a lying Jew.
>>25131801>AdSense>goodNOPE. You're better off selling through an advertising agency than that. Also some of said agencies have a policy against this.
He doesn't work at a real job and he doesn't really work on 4chan, so I really don't care.
>>25131819Their userbase overlaps with ours. If it's profitable for them, it profitable for us.
>>25131780source? that would confirm it
>>25131808Because they are 90% advertising and PREMIUM MEMBERSHIPS.
>>25131842you'd be hardpressed to find a /g/ent who is both into 3DPD and incapable of pirating it
Ahem:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7vw5_TRQisDoes no-one remember the Moot x Hiroyuki Social media talk session from last year? He discussed the day-to-day running of 4chan and said he does it as a 'hobby' and he's not looking to make profit from this site.The only revenue that really comes in are from those very few banner ads (which most people block anyway with Adblock).
>>25131743To prevent spamming.
Does he still pay for it with his mom's credit card?
>>25131831Not really. AdSense has the best payouts, options to block offensive ads and costumizable displays. The advertizer also doesn't really give a fuck what your website shows because by using adWords you are agreeing to display your ad wherever you have allowed it.
>>25131856>'s not looking to make profit from this site.not looking and not getting are two different things
>>25131829>Moot bros it up by being our bro and keeping 4chan up no matter what>accuse him of trying to cheat usYou don't know anything about bros do you?
I should really just turn on Image Preloading, stop crying like a bitch moothem.
>>25131855Streaming video.
>>25131855>/g/ent
I long click click an Ad every day.(Click the ad, and leave it open in a new window for a good 20seconds)Gets moot about $0.40
>>2513187310 points for what is a ".org" domain and what restrictions come with it.
I hate to think what will happen to the internet communities if 4chan suddenly went offline forever.
ITT: Retards who do not know how the internet works>Put adsenseBut 4chans content doesn't comply with its policies>>>25131839>He doesn't work at a real job and he doesn't really work on 4chan, so I really don't care.Actually he does work. See: http://canv.as/>Jlist ads are making him loads a moneyActually, he gets paid per sale (commission) so even if you click and don't buy it wont make him any reveenue>WHy doesn't he accept donations?because of the carding cunts of /b/. The second he starts accepting donations he is going to get a lot of carded cards sending him money "for the lulz". Refunding money costs money (fees)
>>25131894Its not like its AdSense.
Moot >Operates at a loss>Promotes AnonymityZuckerberg >Operates for huge gains>Doesn't care about AnonymityMaybe he just wants to watch the world burn.
>>25131875He is not a bro, this latest incident with aerosynth proves this.And he doesn't have to work a day job like the rest of us so I don't give a shit.
>>25131886>/g/entooman
>>25131875He's not your "bro". You have never met him and he hasn't done anything for you.>>25131877Not really. it's the only thing I agree with him on. Preloading images is unnecessary, costly and overall retarded.
>>25131905I'm guessing they still pay per click, right?
>>25131908>this latest incident with aeosynthYou mean like him removing markdown?To be honest I was all for him removing it. 4chan does fine without spam.
>>25131904What do you mean by carded cards?
>>25131926Stolen credit cards (hacked websites etc). You know cards with CVV and such
>>25131875>still saying or believing that "bros" existStop living in your How I Met Your Mother fantasy and grow up.
Hey what happened to ? did Moot just get rid of it this morning?
>>25131921I don't think so. I think he just gets a fixed percentage of the purchases made from the site itself.
>>25131910I meant that the site is bigger than just /g/, obviously.
>>25131904>But 4chans content doesn't comply with its policiesYou are subject to a content check when you join. If it's deemed offensive you can't join. You could just put it in SFW boards. There are other ad networks that don't care about content, either.>Actually, he gets paid per sale (commission) so even if you click and don't buy it wont make him any reveenueWell, you don't really know that.>because of the carding cunts of /b/. The second he starts accepting donations he is going to get a lot of carded cards sending him money "for the lulz". Refunding money costs money (fees)hurrr what are minimum donations
>>25131898Someone dump the set. You know which.
>>25131956Well, I'll just have to buy a Tenga heyI don't know why moot doesn't sell some kind of 4chan merchandise for limited times in the year.
>>25131956x% of 0 is pretty low.
>>25131977I bought an onahole from there.It's worth it. If I remember though it's a couple dollars more than Tenga's website though.
>>25131907Wait, I'm supposed to read this left-to-right?
>>25131908what happened between him and james? he seemed kinda happy that he got mentioned on the front page.
wait, why do nfsw boards not feature ads while sfw do?
>>25131940I don't think the kids are capable of doing that on a significant scale. He can just use Bitcoins or tell people how to transfer the money.
>>25131172only way for moot to make money is ads. Not many companies are willing to advertise on a site known infamously as the asshole of the internet. And a large portion of anons use adblock and such, so there's little point advertising here anyway.Thus, even though 4chan is famous and receives a lot of traffic, moot can't make a dime off the place. It's funny, really.
If you used free software instead of Windows Server 2008, this wouldn't be a problem moot.
>>25132007Once upon a time the NSFW boards had ads for porn sites, not any more though. Not sure what happened
>>25132005That is the worst possible things you could do./b/ is like a shit magnet, it keeps them away from every other board here.
>>25132016>And a large portion of anons use adblock and suchBut that's wrong./b/ is nothing but 14 year olds who frequent Reddit and Facebook. Adblock is probably a foreign word to them.
I wish Moot made moneys off me, he deserves it for all hes given us.
>>25131964SFW board repeatedly get spammed by porn. Furthermore, you cannot have porn on ANY part of the site where you have adsense.Clearly, you have never been an adsense publisher.>Well, you don't really know that he doesnt get paid per click by jLISTActually, I do because I am also a jlist publisher, I only get revenue per sale (anime site). Do you not realise how retarded jlist would have to be to pay him per click. Again, clearly, you do not know what you are talking about.>hurrr what are minimum donationsI cannot comprehend the stupidity of that statement. See: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/28/anonymous-stratfor-hack-c_n_1172926.html
>>25132005You could include /v/ in there. But moot knows it would kill too much of his traffic.
>>25132026moot chose to get rid of them because of the security risks.
>>25132034Reddit isn't that bad. It's only underaged kids from /b/ and /v/ who hate reddit because they don't know how to find smaller subreddits that suit their interests and think REDDIT STEALS MEMSMEMEMS XD LEMON KEY FACE
I couldn't find the exact post I wanted from a few months ago (think the archive screwed up) but I DID find this.http://archive.installgentoo.net/g/thread/21150403#p21150704
>>25132024Why the fuck he uses macmini instead of normal rack-sized servers or blades?
>>25132034But especially young reddit/facebook/youtube/etc users use AdBlock.
is there a way to have noscript load an ad but hide it ala that shit chrome did?I want to support 4chan but I also don't want to sully my browser rice
>>25132024This is true. One of the reasons myspace failed to grow was that they did not use an open server operating system.
>>25132058Apple products are more cost effective.
Oh shit guise.Imagine what would happen if moot disabled /b/ for a day as an april fool's joke.
>>25132061won't do anything.If you want to help, buy something from jlist with the ads link.It's commission based.
>>25132058Because he is technologically illiterate.
>>25131489Oh boy this will get abused.
moot should accept bitcoins
>>25132068BwahahahahaOnly on /g/, guys.
You would think other internet firms/companies would be paying for 4chan to be maintained - surely they realise what shitstorm would be unleashed if all the /b/tards started to migrate and spread out spreading their shit on everything they came into contact with.
>>25132077 Captain Hindsight
Captain Hindsight
>>25132077It will, and I'm not too excited about it.
>>25132077 I disagree And I can see that this is your first time on today.Shit is well into the abuse part of the abuse graph
I disagree
>>25132034still a large portion compared to the typical internet user. Companies are weary of this.Plus, like I said, many legitimate companies don't want to advertise on a site known for being full of gore porn, pedophiles, etc. It'd be like some high-class designer suit company advertising in hustler. It'd be bad for business
>>25132082well they are when you factor in the raw faggotry that is included with each machine.Faggotry isn't cheap, and I'm sure you know how much 4chan goes through.
>>25132072Every year he says >Today I will be taking down /g/, goodnight sweet princeOr something along those lines, and every year the /b/tards eat that shit up and get scared
>>25132091That's why I'm just going to ignore it. It's a pointless feature anyway.
>>25132103>/g/Meant /b/
We should start an ad-clicking campaign for our old buddy moot. What do you guys say?
>>25132077I don't get it, please explain.
>>25132104Code tags are far from pointless, it's just that they're not going to be used adequately most of the time.Hell, they have their use even in desktop threads.
>>25132103>mass and permanent migration to the other boardsKill me.
>>25132115Lets choose one product we should all buy
>>25132115No.Keep your leejun retardedness in /b/.
>>25132115Sounds like it has a 50% chance of being helpful since we dont know if he gets money from clicks.
>>25132054What security risk?
>>25132114But imagine if he did take it down for a day.The rest of 4chan and the internet would remember that day for quite a while.
>>25132115No.
>>25131289pretty sure it's pay per click.
>>25132063Myspace had more problems than that. Such a terrible layout, and when it become the projects of social networking, people fled. Facebook is slowly going down that road.
Why not accept donations? I'm sure many include me would be ready to donate if the option existed.
I bought some shit from J-list last year just got it they are way overpriced but it supports the site.
>>25132115Nope.
>>25132115fuck off, moot
>>25132060Source?
>>25132115> jList pays commission per sale>"HEY GUYS">"GUYS">"LISTEN, U GUYS">"WHAT IF">"u GUISE">"WAHT IF WE MAKE 4CHAN RICH">"WHAT IF, WHAT IF WE START A AD CLICKING CAMPIGN">"U GUIUSE, THAT WEILL WORK GUYS"Fucking retard. If anything, jList will back out if shit like that happens
howdoiusethisfagetshet
>>25131897There are no restrictions with an .org domain. Just because it was originally intended for non-profit organizations doesn't mean that there's any form of enforcement whatsoever.There's only a few tlds that really enforce their restrictions and it's usually shit like .museum that nobody really wants.
>>25131744>tfw the pic i made for /fit/ is now spreading on /g/
>>25132142Buy something nice from J-List.They have some pretty sweet products. Aside from Newegg or Chegg, they're the only place I buy online from
>>25132142There are probably fears of stolen cards and account closures. Maybe even a little fraud investigation.
>>25132139People didn't leave it for that reason, it just never caught on past high school. Facebook made a point to be easy to use and much more professional looking, and it caught on with college students (as it was intended to) and then adults and then everyone else started using it around 2009 when they realized MySpace was slow and bloated and that it was much easier to find old friends and such on Facebook.
>>25132168Pretty sure moot is /fits/ main admin
>>25132132There was a XSS attack in them at one point, moot removed the entire ad network because of it.
What I don't understand is, if he's bitching and moaning about running 4chan at a loss, why doesn't he open the website to donations...
>>25132133It's happened before, back before the change to boards.4chan when /b/ and a couple other boards were separate from the majority, so /b/ might go down but the SFW interest boards might still be up. Basically, it would turn into a shitshow. Especially on /v/ and (for some reason) they would all go to /x/ as well.
>>25132192Have you missed the entire thread?
>>25132192>how does I read thread
>>25132167You're confusing profit with an organization. That's the whole point of the post. You can have a million dollars principle and a thousand dollars of operating costs a year. That just means you'll spend 10,000 years to use that million dollars.You can't allocate funds elsewhere. It's not a profit, it's just an addition to principle.
>>25132142I think its a pride thing. He makes a point that he hasn't accepted donations since 2005.
>>25132187>yfw !seaweedKJc is a public tripcode now
>>25132202>>25132200>205 posts and 19 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.I'm not reading all of that.
>>25132208>yfw so whatNo one really cares about pretending to be me anymore.
>>25132189gingermod is in charge
>>25132171But I dislike Peter Payne.
>>25132050I have and am. Again, there are ad networks that don't care about content.Also, porn does occasionally escape through AdSense's scans. I had a friend who would just clean up his site the best he could before the 13th so he could be ready when the 15th came and was never caught until a couple of months ago. I guess the more you have the more likely you are to get caught. It would also be a good reason to enforce the SFW tag, and have the janitors actually enforce this shit ad use md5 filtering.>Actually, I do because I am also a jlist publisherCool, but you don't know what kind of deal there is between J-List and moot. You'd be insane to think it's exactly the same as you have, when this is one of the top most visited places on the Internet, and whose userbase overlaps greatly with the goods being sold. It's not only targeted as fuck, it has high visibility.>I cannot comprehend the stupidity of that statement.I cannot comprehend why you linked that article when it's not really the same issue. There are tons of money-exchange services that could be used instead of direct donations.
Moot has enough jewgold to run this site at a loss for another 20 years. This is just a hobby
>>25132050>Do you not realise how retarded jlist would have to be to pay him per click.I don't. Why does it work for other sites but not for JList?
>>25132203And my point is that there actually is no such restriction with an .org.
>>25132090>>25132093>>25132165What are you coding?
>>25131599It does, since Chrome 19.Look it up.
>>25132229
>>25132210No wonder you are stupid.
>>25132171I refuse to support them because of the way the company is run.
Pageviews do not translate to money.
>>25132237Unlike actual advertising companies like Google, JList wouldn't make enough revenue to justify paying per ad click.
>>25132237Probably because JList's audience is a niche one (= more return visitors) that's happy to click shit with no intention of actually buying.
>>25131172>how is he running this site at a loss?when the actual profit is less than the way he expected, then he thinks it's a loss.it's the most retarded but evil logic.
>>25131857which we get all the time anyway...
>>25132332That's not how businesses work you fucking idiot.
>2005: Moot says 4chan running at a loss.proven to have lied about it>2006: Moot says 4chan running at a loss.proven to have lied about it>2007: Moot says 4chan running at a loss.proven to have lied about it>2008: Moot says 4chan running at a loss.proven to have lied about it>2009: Moot says 4chan running at a loss.proven to have lied about it>2010: Moot says 4chan running at a loss.proven to have lied about it>2011: Moot says 4chan running at a loss.proven to have lied about it>2012
We should all pre-order this-http://www.jlist.com/product/PRE448And make moot some jewgold
>>25132187>People didn't leave it for that reason, it just never caught on past high school. Facebook made a point to be easy to use and much more professional looking, and it caught on with college students (as it was intended to) and then adults and then everyone else started using it around 2009 when they realized MySpace was slow and bloated and that it was much easier to find old friends and such on Facebook.It caught on with college students. A few years ago you couldn't even go to a concert without getting a band Myspace page shoved down your throat. The problem to me was that once the users were there, they got bored. There wasn't really anything there to keep them logged in. Spammers and idiots ran it so far down that it was a nuisance to even log in.Facebook attracted people because it was exclusive at one point. It has a bunch of users as a good majority are always online because most of them are addicted to their shitty games. There is still spam and virus threats, but nowhere the levels of Myspace a few years ago.Facebook's bargain is people who like scrap-booking. God knows their mobile clients are there for the mobile experience.
>>25132373it is in a jews eyes
>>25132230Adsense does care about content, specially on a website where a few million viitors visit everyday. Give me one example of a large website (alexa 100k) that has content like porn and also has adsense. While the smaller sites may slip through, it is very unlikely that 4chan will. In addition, 4chan would not ever get approved by adsense anyway. Why would jlist have a "special agreement" with moot that would pay him pay per click, they would lose money that way. I can't be bothered explaining how affiliate marketing works. My anime website gets 3 million pageviews per month, it has similar jlist advertisements. firstly, the clickthrough rate it shitty, and so is the conversion rate its something like 0.2% click through rate and 1 sale per 700 clicks which is really shitty. Again, jlist would lose a lot of money if they did that.>I cannot comprehend why you linked that article when it's not really the same issue. There are tons of money-exchange services that could be used instead of direct donations.taking donations is not an effective business model and mott would never do it. also, only really really shady money exchange services would accept donations to moot, they're likely to skim some money too. He could use bitcoins, but again, as I said, donations is not an effective business model.
>>25132391>not ordering Miku panties like the dirty trap you are
>>25132391>not going for tentacle grapeYou should see the looks on some people faces if you drink it in publicThey best part is, you can play it off as if you don't know shit and they will look perverted
https://www.4chan.org/news?all#79I'm surprised no-ones linked to this - it's in the 4chan news archive after all and explains the whole donating fiasco of 2005
>>25132410I could go for some trap right about now.
It's too bad ninegag beat out canvasMaybe then we could have a decent site...
>>25132422sammy thread?
>>25132409>Adsense does care about contentRight, and there are alternatives to AdSense.
>>25132378How was it proven that he lied about it? I'm not saying that your necessarily wrong but it would be cool if someone would share that aforementioned proof.
>>25132424>requires facebook login>descentiscoobydoobydoo
>>25132419God damn it, I'm definitely going to order some now.
>>25132378where is this proof?
>>25132378I didn't think he was lying about it running at a loss when he was begging for donations 2003-late 2005Or did he really take the money to Mexico?
>>25132424>implying moot can't make canv.as bigger by jewing us out>implying he shouldn't
>>25132210Then don't post.>>25132142This goes for you too, faggot.I came to this thread late and still managed to catch up by reading the entire thing pretty quickly.
>>25132501moot's banging chick, running 4chan and living the sweet life in ny. I'm jelly. So, So, jelly.
I'm pretty sure 4chan breaks even. moot has invested more money these last two years (CloudFlare move and HTML5 redesign) and thus can claim it is at a loss. I doubt it's by a great amount and blame it mostly on his incompetence at monetizing the site, and bet it recoups the money over time anyway. He probably has his reasons, but he can't really bitch about it.
>>25132501is that a giant bag of weed on the phone
>>25132269but the revenue per click can be arbitrary small>>25132373but this is not a reason for being sane, nor it can imply anything.back then in WWI, people killing people, if i herp derp about peace, would you think i am an idiot?
>>25132501i'd hit her*grabs dick*
>>25132518sup moot
>>25132543he looks lonely
he looks lonely
>>25132544What? I didn't even put him in a nice light and called him incompetent, you faggot.
mfw moot uses chrome
>>25132553What are you coding?
omg op your sucha feggit why are you so stupid no really, that's like so embarrasing. go to the railwaystation and get your dick sucked buy som faggit you fagget really lol your such a dick, getf cudked and die.
>>25132543Proof that Mac users are incompetent at managing their finances.
>>25132440Every thread is a Sammy thread.
>>25132557the more you bitch about it, the more suspicious you are.haha moot is a faggot
>>25132570What are you coding?
>>25132579Delicious. Commence dump, plz.
staring into your soul
>>25132589>implying isn't the new ">"
>implying isn't the new ">"
isn't the new ">"
>>25132587That's not how it works you dumb faggot.inb4 hurr durr i wuz only pretandin to b retarted xDDDD
>>25132597agreed
If moot was really starving, he'd already be modeling.
>>25132600>>25132603What are you coding?
>>25132589im coding your shitt ycunt lol whtf is wrong wit you iwhat are you coding hahha omg your so amebrarrsing got outside and get a liyfe no really so embarrasign omg
im coding your shitt ycunt lol whtf is wrong wit you iwhat are you coding hahha omg your so amebrarrsing got outside and get a liyfe no really so embarrasign omg
>>25132618Back that ass up.
>>25132600Holy strabismus!
>>25132628What are you coding?
What are you coding?
Because he can't in to internet and actually upgrade the server backend to make the site better.I'm pretty sure everyone on this site would give him money to add an API for extensions and the like to use to fetch content DIRECTLY from the server to save having to fetch entire god damn pages all the time.Why didn't they get the magic bastard who done this client-side upgrade to do that?After that faggot Max jewed out on him, half of /g/ said they would do the rewrite, but nope.Why do you do this to yourself Moot?You can easily chat with us faggots through Skype and make us do whatever the hell you want to verify we exist and aren't some scammer or hacker. Also, this is why we need a /dev/ board. Seriously. So many boards develop stuff.
Also, this is why we need a /dev/ board. Seriously. So many boards develop stuff.
>>25132670fapping
ゴホッムワイツピッグウtesting
>>25132656>/dev/ boardI am totally in support of this.
>>25132688brb fapping continue dump
>posting pictures of a dead trapshiggy diggy doo
>>25132704whats this supposed to be?
>>25132705>2012>fapping to thisi shiggy diggy doo
>implying
>>25132711How did he die? I'd fuck him.
>>25132723moot at work on canv.as
>>25132711i cried the day i heard that
>>25132731He's still alive.
>>25132409>donations is not an effective business modelx is always worse than x + donations.
>>25132696/prog/ and /diy/ already serve this purpose.
>>25132751Tell him to b-b-back that ass up then.
>>25132731overdose>>25132745why the fuck would you cry?
>>25132751Fuck.
>>25132751who cares
>>25132762>overdoseHow do we know this? All we know is he hasn't been on the Internet for ages.
>>25132724>2012>implying that you wouldn't still snuggle SammyThey aren't that bad looking.>>25132731suicide by overdose. Or at least there was an attempt. People say there was a second one and it was successful. In any case Sammy hasn't been heard from in awhile.
Why does Moot care about 4chan costing him money?Canv.as is making millions, like they always said it would, right?
>>25132782>"lol you're a faggot"You got dun told by sammy. Why the fuck were you such a dick to him? You should kill yourself too.
>>25132801Just because you're making money from one thing doesn't mean you wouldn't care about losing more money than you should from another.
>>25132812Yeah, man. What a dick.
>>25132782I wonder if that guy feels bad for probably being the reason Sammy's dead.>>25132812Sammy said that a lot, it was basically just his go-to comeback whenever people made him feel bad.
>>25132812That wasn't me talking to Sammy. Someone posted that conversation in another thread a couple days ago and i saved it. It seemed relevant to the topic so I re posted it.
>>25132755/prog/ is an awful text board that nobody likes. Then of course there is the fact that it is a text board. /dev/ isn't just going to be filled with text./diy/ is for physical things/dev/ would be for virtual things. This would equally incorporate /3/ content too, for example.It would give a central location for all developers to show off content and wave their e-peen at each other. Also, add a fucking NSFW tag on all boards already, nobody gives a shit about the board colors, not even half the mods do.Why this has happened yet is beyond me. Anyone browsing in work who gets caught deserves promotions anyway.
>>25132859Well if you see that guy again remember to tell him hes probably why sammy is dead.
>>25132816But a lot of companies do this.They sell some things at a loss or really tiny profit that is a basic requirement of other things that have a larger profit to them.Whether it is a supermarket or fast food, or cheap / free updates to software.But to compare that to a supermarket would be everyone in the town constantly coming in and taking at least 1 thing for free. (not for me that is, I helped this site. And they helped me get a Love Body Aki. Fuck yes)
Video of moot starving to death ;_;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5adlMZFVEAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G-eltVf65Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPbTBaizP2E
>>25132890...Why did you take a screenshot of my post lol
>>25132890Will do.On a side note they failed hard at editing out their name. You can see it's Raven on one line. They didn't bother removing it in the following conversation screenshots after realizing they had fucked up. I'll post em if anyone wants em.But for now here are some more pictures of Sammy being hot/cute.
>>25132949all of my bonerz
>>25132949post convo?
>>25132941so>>25132949can post it again telling this raven guy hes a faggot
>>25132985>>25132985Wow... This faggot dun goofed. Track him down for making sammy an hero?
>>25132866/prog/ had smarter posts and challenges than whatever you could find on /g/'s programming threads and /r/programming.Now it's full /vip/ mode. It sucks. moot should just have hired a mod for /prog/ instead of adding prettyprinting to /g/.
Thats all of em
>>25133035so we don't even know if this fool made sammy anhero?
Mooting in a moot moot.
>>25133057I think i found his facebook. He didt blur out his name...
>>25133105I talked to sammy a few times on twitter and such he was a bro
>>25133057We just know he didn't like Sammy and treated them like shit. In the thread that I got the pics from he said that Sammy was annoying and self centered and shit. Though the conversation makes Raven seem like the obvious dick.In any case I actually find the conversation to be good news. It confirms that Sammy attempted to commit suicide (and explains why Sammys sites went down) but also proves that they survived the first attempt and there is no real proof that Sammy made a second attempt. Sammy could totally still be alive (though depressed).Also: not 100% sure if this pic is Sammy but someone posted it in a Sammy thread...
Dead or alive, as long as he is not posting here, I'm happy.
>>25133200Why would you be happy about the absence of someone awesome? In any case I'll pick up the slack and post enough Sammy pics to make it seem like they never left! Rose seems to have gone out of style but Sammy will always be /g/'s queen.
>>25133165Don't think thats sammy.
>>25133261Because it's not technology related
Because it's not technology related
>>25133304What are you coding?
Now that we are here, what actual spec is CODE highlighting to?
>>25133263I figured it probably wasn't :(I think I may have actually seen someone post that pic on /soc/ once (I know I'm a horrible person for traveling to such an obviously inferior board).I'm running low on actual Sammy pics. I don't have many. I know there are at least a few in existence that I didn't think to save when Sammy was still posting on /g/.
>>25133346this, it was so abrupt I was posting on his chan one day it was all gone the next
>>25132263How is the company run?
>>25133346I'm sure theres an upload somewhere with a bunch of pics.
>>25133463somewhere over the rainbow.
>>25132378Not to derail this derailed thread (rerail?) but nobody ever did provide proof that Moot had been proven to have lied about 4chan not being profitable in the past. Was it ever actually proven that 4chan had been profitable?
>>25133524lol
No wonder he had to rape that british girl. He couldn't pay for a high class escort.lol moot
>>25133625There's a printscreen up there with him saying he breaks even at least.
