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Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)19:25 No.24197355

When did Apple become everything they fought so hard against during the 80s...?

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)19:26 No.24197383 When the money started rolling in.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)19:27 No.24197403 >>24197383 this also >implying that wasn't their plan all along

Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)19:30 No.24197470

>>24197383
Yep. Apple played the underdog and catered to hackers because it was a sound business strategy during the 80s and 90s. They started selling to the mass market when they'd saturated the educational market for over a decade, so people had grown up using MacOS in school, and then they introduced the iPod. The iPod was a huge improvement over existing MP3 players, OS X was terrible at first but quickly surpassed XP, and the G3/G4/G5 PowerPC hardware was awesome. Then they went Intel and created iOS. The thing is, they're in such a great market position that they basically can't go anywhere but down from here, and unlike Microsoft in the 90s they have a capable rival in mobile (Android), and two superior desktop OSes to contend with (Windows 7 and Linux).

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)19:31 No.24197496 >>24197470 >OS X was terrible at first but quickly surpassed XP You must leave now.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)21:20 No.24199408 Bump.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)21:29 No.24199557 When Woz left, the hacker culture in Apple left with him.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:29 No.24200497 >>24199557 i mean, technically hes still on payroll for something akin to crumbs, but youre exactly right here fellow /g/entleman

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:32 No.24200533 File: 1334370721.jpg-(199 KB, 950x1233, 170347-steve-jobs.jpg) >as if this isn't the ugliest laptop ever

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:32 No.24200536 File: 1334370724.jpg-(16 KB, 360x330, imac.jpg) since this little bugger

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:33 No.24200562 >>24200533 Yea the space clam looks ridiculous, but it was packed with a good deal of neat tech including wifi which was like magic back then.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:34 No.24200576 File: 1334370855.jpg-(78 KB, 360x299, steve-wozniak-blue-box.jpg) If you mean locking down hardware and shit, it was about the time Woz stopped being an active part of the company.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:34 No.24200590 Since 2004.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:35 No.24200599 >>24200533 Dat fisherprice.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:37 No.24200627 Poor woz... Betrayed by the one he thought of as his only friend...

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:39 No.24200667 >>24197470 >superior desktop OSes >Windows 7 You're right about Linux, but if you think that Windows 7 is a better Desktop OS than OSX, then you are a fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:40 No.24200684 >>24197496 But it did, my cute little fanboy.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:40 No.24200692 >>24200667 >OSX >better than windows confirmed 12 year old

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:41 No.24200699 >>24200692 I happen to be 83 years old.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:41 No.24200705 >>24200692 >windows >better than osx confirmed for vegetable

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:42 No.24200714 File: 1334371358.png-(137 KB, 595x842, 1332843385854.png) >>24200692

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:43 No.24200720 >>24200699 >>24200705 faggot/10

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:44 No.24200733 >>24200720 >assuming someone is a macfag just because he states the FACT that mac is better than windows

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:44 No.24200735 File: 1334371452.jpg-(313 KB, 800x619, 1331516286161.jpg) >>24200714

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:44 No.24200743 >>24200714 Pretends powershell doesn't exist.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:44 No.24200745 >>24200714 I wonder how long OS X will provide such things on a default install considering their user base...

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:45 No.24200753 >>24200733 a person stating that would become a faggot by default

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:45 No.24200758 >>24200735 >thinks macs aren't pcs >thinks calling people faggots is the same as refuting their arguments

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:46 No.24200779 File: 1334371592.png-(323 KB, 4494x5000, 1334010542692.png) >>24200743 >powershell

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:46 No.24200783 >>24200758 their arguments have no points to refute, its the same parroted shit over and over again. why else do you think this board is so shitty?

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:48 No.24200804 File: 1334371686.jpg-(17 KB, 400x297, angry mutt.jpg) >>24200783 Because most people here don't actually believe that free software is best software.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:48 No.24200809 >>24200743 that also falls under childrens toy

Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:48 No.24200813

>>24200714
UNIX is the biggest reason I'm going to buy a Macbook Pro.

>>24200745
Forever, and if they don't it can be easily installed. They don't advertise *nix anymore, but they know that part of their userbase is computer scientists, and they use OS X because it's *nix-like. There would be no benefit of removing it.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:50 No.24200834 >>24200809 Powershell is pretty damn powerful, especially if you're willing to dive into C# a bit.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:50 No.24200840 mac was always cancer never was it anything else the only thing it fought was creativity and individuality

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:50 No.24200842 >>24200779 powershell is shit, but it's better than .bat or cmd or even god forbid, .exe console apps

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:51 No.24200849 File: 1334371869.png-(30 KB, 988x224, godlytroll.png) >>24200834 >Powershell >C#

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:52 No.24200859 >>24200834 Power Shell will be slightly good if you're familiar with it, yes, but it feels like an entirely different language all on it's own (which is not good.) Just saiyan

Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)22:56 No.24200912
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>>24200840

lol, you're an idiot. Apple makes a great computer and operating system that is overpriced, and that's the end of it. Stop being so easily influenced by the apple-hating crowd and see things as there are.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:02 No.24200989 >>24200912 That is if you don't like any kind of control or customization...Or you don't know shit about computers and want it to "just work".

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:03 No.24200998 >>24200912 It's a console that doesn't have any games.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:03 No.24201003 >>24200989 BSD would like to have a word with you.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:04 No.24201016 Since 1990.

>>	!!OF33HkHCInJ 04/13/12(Fri)23:07 No.24201075 >>24200813 linux is more nix like and it isn't even a nix

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:11 No.24201131 Why the US is turning into a facist state after defeating the same regimes? Because they are not completely different. Apple from 80's was small and fighting to survive, Apple today is big and want world domination, one step lead to another.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:11 No.24201136 >>24201075 that's because being certified UNIX hasn't really mattered for some time

Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:14 No.24201173

>>24201075
What's your basis on Linux being more *nix like than BSD? Plan 9 is more *nix than UNIX.

I've had too many problems with Linux. Audio has always been my biggest problem, and IMO Linux is too fragmented which I would argue is a bad thing, but many others say it's why Linux flourished. And OS X has more commercial developer support.

Honestly I've just reserved a 40GB partition to install Linux, I've lost count of the number of times I've reinstalled it. I keep wanting to switch to Linux from Windows, but something or another keeps driving me away. I love the UNIX aspect of Linux but the desktop turns me off.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:20 No.24201272 >>24200692 >archaic os bogged down by legacy code better than a modern, bsd based os Just comparing the two operating systems by themselves, OS X runs laps around Windows.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:22 No.24201303 >>24201272 And I bet you run laps round jobs' dead dick. Fucking shit, OS X is an ugly white piece of crap. Horrendous aesthetics, windows looks just so much better.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:24 No.24201319 >>24201131 >the US is turning into a facist state And here come the tin-foil hats to ruin this already awful thread.

Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:24 No.24201322

>>24201173
how do you break linux to the point of reinstalling?

the only times i've had to reinstall linux is early on when i didn't know enough to know how to fix my mistakes, now i can get away with pretty much any fuckup and still be able to fix it, like being as modular as it is, makes it very easy to fix, unlike windows

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:26 No.24201346 >>24201303 Who says I'm a Mac user?

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:26 No.24201352 >>24201322 Windows 8 has a "I fucked everything up, reset all of the system files" feature.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:26 No.24201353 >>24201303 The only criticism of OS X you can come up with is that it's not as pretty as Windows? So sad...

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:28 No.24201369 >osx >can't cut and past

Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:28 No.24201374

>>24201322
It's never "broken", but I like to use that space as a temp storage, and since Windows can't read anything other than NTFS and FAT, I have to format it. And installing Linux takes about 20 min, including installing x11, and everything else I'd want for desktop use, so I don't really care.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:28 No.24201379 >>24201352 what happens when you break that feature? also, resetting everything does not count as fixing the issue

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:29 No.24201407 File: 1334374197.jpg-(509 KB, 1457x1943, 1333889548708.jpg)

>>	Ambien 04/13/12(Fri)23:32 No.24201449 Apple was always this, because they're a corporation who patents, releases closed source software etc. They tried to paint IBM black, and their products white. Red shows up strongest on white.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:33 No.24201479 >>24201407 Thank you. I hope the world will read this and realize what an asshat Jobs was. His passing was more than welcomed.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:35 No.24201501 >>24201407 10/10 my faith in humanity went up a point

Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:35 No.24201506

>>24201379
Windows 8 and OS X Lion have the ability to boot into a hidden partition that can be used for recovering system files without reinstalling everything. As long as a virus doesn't have administrator powers and maybe if Windows gets secure boot (or makes writing to the bootloader require a highly restricted thing), the user can always fix their system in most cases. I'm sure Ubuntu will add something like this someday for the many people who fuckup Ubuntu.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:35 No.24201515 File: 1334374554.png-(145 KB, 1280x800, idontknowwhattodowiththispiece(...).png) WINDOWS IS GREAT THEY SAID THE HARDWARE IS TOP OF THE LINE THEY SAID

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:37 No.24201535 >>24201515 Windows has nothing to do with hardware...

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:37 No.24201536 File: 1334374632.png-(64 KB, 1152x514, 1317602507176.png) >>24201515 >Windows >hardware You're are the one that is hard.

>>	!!OF33HkHCInJ 04/13/12(Fri)23:37 No.24201545 >>24201515 >windows >hardware What? Microsoft doesn't make any hardware.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:37 No.24201548 I honestly wouldn't mind using OSX but doesn't it have shitty hardware support? Which is the reason you have to spend a shitload of time messing around with shit just to get it on a machine not made by Apple?

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:38 No.24201561 >>24201535 >>24201536 >>24201545 youmustbenewhere.jpg

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:39 No.24201568 >>24200912 no its doesn't you idiot, foxconn does

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:40 No.24201583 >>24201548 it has bad hardware support so you can't use it on anything but apple made pc

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:42 No.24201598 Apple isn't really holding back technology, though, like IBM was.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:42 No.24201603 >>24201598 >apple is three steps behind

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:43 No.24201606 File: 1334374982.jpg-(8 KB, 180x143, 1331747352045.jpg) >>24201568 I don't think you understand how production operates, lol.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:43 No.24201608 >>24201583 It don't think that's because it has bad hardware support, I think it's intentional, Apple only wants their software on Apple hardware. But I think they have the ability to make it work on third party hardware if they wanted to.

lolololololololololololo 04/13/12(Fri)23:43 No.24201610

>>24201407
but if he didn't patent it, couldn't somebody else patent it, stop others from doing it, and sell it?
wouldn't it have been safer for him to patent it and give free licenses or whatever?
could someone explain this?

also: there still needs to be money coming from somewhere to produce the vaccine even if the information for how to make it is free. is the money coming from the indian government or from charitys?

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:43 No.24201613 File: 1334375031.png-(632 KB, 800x1237, tablets.png) >>24201598 >IBM >Holding back technology >Literally responsible for the great world we live in today.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:43 No.24201614 >>24201598 >IBM holding tech back http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/36901.wss

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:44 No.24201618 >>24201606 apparently you don't

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:44 No.24201624 >>24201608 >But I think they have the ability to make it work on third party hardware if they wanted to. People have already figured it out. It's called a Hackintosh.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:45 No.24201629 >>24201614 >>24201613 Fuck off, Big Brother.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:45 No.24201637 >>24201629 stay mad.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:46 No.24201655 >>24201613 All the ones on the IBM side suck, though. >matte tablet Disgusting.

>>	Ambien 04/13/12(Fri)23:46 No.24201660 >>24201629 >Quoting orwellian propaganda you don't understand 1984 was written as post-war propaganda for the allied forces.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:47 No.24201662 >>24201610 What grounds would they have to patent it if it already existed

lolololololololololololo 04/13/12(Fri)23:47 No.24201666

>>24201548
>doesn't it have shitty hardware support?
some non-apple hardware is compatible, but you need to use efiboot or some shit like that made by someone else.

yes it's intentional. if small groups of people who make $0 out of getting OS X to work on non-apple computers can do it, I'm sure apple can.

going the other way though, you can install anything on a mac. os x (wow.png), windows, linux, bsd, and theres more

>>	sounce !ixhsoprtnM 04/13/12(Fri)23:47 No.24201669 >>24201624 but the crappu driver support still make me cringed about OS X.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:50 No.24201707 >>24201613 First isn't better. It's about who actually brings a good product out to the masses.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:50 No.24201714 >>24201613 IBM lost because it never marketed its tablets as Resolutionary. I'm sorry, but you just can't compete with that.

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:52 No.24201733 >>24201714 >marketed so you're implying this had nothing to do with technology? just the better marketing scheme to faggots who still live in their parents basements. that's it? thats what you're basing this on?

>>	Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:52 No.24201742 >>24201707 >masses >i.e. idiots who like shiny toys

Anonymous 04/13/12(Fri)23:54 No.24201769

>>24201669
Hackintosh projects have gone on for many years. You can build a rig that is 100% compatible and modern laptops work out of the box. Only wireless cards remain as an issue but it's usually easy to replace in laptops. You can be even lazier and buy a laptop that is known to have a wireless card that "just werks."

>>	Anonymous 04/14/12(Sat)00:01 No.24201865 >>24201769 >hackintosh >modern laptops work out of the box fuck, i'll have to re-research hackintoshing then, hopefully theres some good ultraprotables that work with it

>>	Anonymous 04/14/12(Sat)00:05 No.24201910 File: 1334376314.jpg-(43 KB, 320x310, suchafaggotstill.jpg) >>24201865

>>	Anonymous 04/14/12(Sat)00:13 No.24201992 >>24201733 Apple only puts a sticker on things somebody else does. Samsun/LG/Foxconn.

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