Macs are predominantly used by smug people who sniff their own farts.

/thread

Macbook Pros are for people too dumb to install GNU/Linux on a regular laptop, or who need software that isn't available on GNU/Linux yet.

>go to defcon
>all the best hackers there attending ctf are using macbooks

I thought his name was Deadmouse.
Also, they use them because they are giving them for free to make stupid faggots such as yourself come to your stupid conclusion about celebrities being that which the world should be measured by.

>>23691649

His Macbook Pro is just for live performances

He uses a Hackintosh actually.

>>23691674
>do to defcon
>thinking you are seeing the best hackers

>>23691649
>dead maufive
Stopped reading there

>>23691649

Because he's an actual music producer and not a faggot who buys it as a $2000 Facebook Machine?

>X is better than Y because X is more popular

This is literally the argument being used here.

>>23691649
>dead maufive
I fucking love you

>>23691682
Teams who've passed the quals are very good. We're talking everything from binary exploits, kernel hacking, and reverse engineering to network stuff

>>23691703
holy fuck ponies are huge

>>23691703
oh god i dat poni post moar

>>23691649
My computer science professor uses a thinkpad
but my previous one has a netbook with loooonix and some macbook
he uses macbook to make iOS apps tho

>>23691729
>tho

Because Apple makes them. From a hardware perspective they're grossly overpriced and under performing in some key areas.

>>23691740
like what?

Because homosexuality is on the increase.

>>23691751

Try doing Autocad on a macbook air and tell me.

>>23691769
I don't need autocad though, I only need text editors and ide's. And sometimes photoshop.

>>23691751
Like durability, maintenance and upgrade cost, and especially cooling.

>>23691786
That would've broken any other laptop as well retard.

>>23691783
>only needs things available on Windows
>uses mac

Attention whore detected

>>23691783
>IDEs

Compiling programs of any decent size will max out a CPU for a while. Macbook Airs have terrible overheating problems. Enjoy your sterility.

>>23691806
News flash.

IDEs such as Netbeans and text editors such as vim/emacs, sublime text, and Textmate are all available on OS X.

>>23691806
I don't use a mac. I use linux. I'm just defending a mac out of boredom.

>>23691803
Do you even know what hard plastic is?

Who is this mickey mouse retard?

>>23691806
>implying programmers didn't flock to os x because it's unix

>>23691786

i can confirm that.
Unless I put my fan up to 600rpm (100%), my CPU will auto-throttle so as to not fry under load, which happens at around 95°C

>>23691822
Yes, and if it was enough force to bend that, it's going to break multiple times if it were plastic.

>>23691825
Dead maufive, he sells dubstep and dubstep accessories

>>23691803
Try me

>>23691836

*6000 rpm

>>23691816

Yeah, so pay over the odds when you could have got it on windows for far cheaper

>>23691649
Ease of use id imagine, brand loyalty. Moneys for using their products over others, also the fact that mac's were always involved with computer music. Didn't Mike Oldfield use a mac trying to recreate Tubular Bells live quite some time ago.

Personally I'm with Stallmann, it's your shit so why should it report back to the company (microsoft/google/facebook) about what you are doing and not let you modify anything without paying more (apple).

Alternative's may be a little clunky but at least you have more freedom in an all round way.

>>23691849
Netbeans is free and pirating the others is free too.

Dubstep is fucking gay and for hipsters so it makes sense.

It's not a bad laptop, it's just overpriced.

>why are so many people using them?

two reasons:
>Apple’s hardware has historically been used by the “multimedia industry” (this was back when a mac still used Motorola hardware). The result is that the “audio/video community” is largely based around Apple hardware (although, form a technical standpoint, a mac is just a pc with a different OS).
>Mac OS is a Unix(!) based OS with easy hardware support.

>>23691850
Nah Atari was used more

>>23691838
It's not structural steel you moron. You can bend a macbook pro like that over your knee. They milled out so many holes and crumple zones in the body that the internals are the only structural part of the entire device.

>>23691847
I got one of those.

pic related my room.
ujello?

>>23691729
>he uses macbook
>>23691649
>If macbook pro is so bad
Stop personifying computers.

>>23691850
Why are macbooks used so much in the graphics and audio industry anyway? Does it even have a preemptive real time kernel?

PCs: for when real work needs to be done.

>>23691874
>You can bend a macbook pro like that over your knee.

Exaggerating gets you no where.

>>23691649
Religion...

/thread

>>23691669
Hey, I like my own farts.
It's what little joy I have left in this world.

>>23691865
>implying musicians and artists use the unix side of things

>>23691877
I don't see a compass in that pic.

Still, I'd be super jelly if you have one

deadmau5 actually produces in a windows enviroment (cubase, ableton live)

>>23691877
http://www.idesignarch.com/circular-library-bookcase/#more-9283

>>23691773
Yea there's an electronic artist called 'The Flashbulb' who's albums apple sell on itunes but he doesn't receive any royalties for. When he protested apple were all like 'come at me bro, we've lawyers that'd be in jail for serial killing if they didn't have an outlet for their twisted ways.'

Big companies hiding behind lawyers and such are a problem that is getting worse, see 'smart personable people with no conscience'.

>>23691909
I just wanted to share a cool looking office. sorry if that offended you ;_;

>>23691858
>Dubstep
>deadmaus

But that's not right

>>23691765
Are you surprised? Today's women are terrible, and our fast paced stessful lifestyles make getting laid very important.

>>23691887
I remember reading "Making comics by Scott McCloud"
there was that chapter about inking and how his comic was made the message was basically
>BUY AN APPLE IT'S GREAT FOR MAKING ART!
turns out: what really matters when making art:
> truthful color reproduction
(which when you have a good monitor isn't that hard to achieve)

and a computer that can handle the graphic-program(I guess that would be Photoshop)

I think it's some sort of old myth from the past as Apple had something old PC didn't have (maybe something about being user-friendly(GUI), the 80's say 'hello!'),
but nowadays it's kind of archaic to buy a mac when you're an artist,
Windows is just as easy to use and the really important thing is the monitor
>well at least that's my opinion

>>23691649
>>23691688
>>23691840

It's Deadmau5 you bottom feeding cunts.

>>23691943

They use some breakbeats and stuff but it's not 'dubstep' music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKi9Z-f6qX4&ob=av2e

>>23691917
This is why, if I won the lottery, I'd donate 5 million dollars to HURD and GNU under the conditions that they honor the freedoms and the GPL for the rest of time.

>>23692036
so we can just stop arguing over if it's dubstep or not, lets just all call it SHIT

>>23691669
There has to be some kind of psychological link between enjoying the scent of your own farts and being narcissistic.

Because when I fart in public my heart rate increases and I feel intense pleasure at the thought of someone grimacing in disgust. I can barely even keep a straight face. I get so excited that people that know me will know what is going down and be like oh shit take cover.

>>23692050
I'd do the same, but under the condition that they kick out stallman

>>23692050

You could donate 20 million, they'd still never catch up to Apple or Microsoft and would still spend more time dividing into endlessly smaller groups of idealists than actually securing any kind of future or foothold in the market.

>>23692034
Back in the day, Macs really were better for making art, but x86 PCs caught up with them in raw capability long ago, and now they ARE x86 PCs. These days, anyone with an old P4 and an Ubuntu Studio CD can make computer art for basically the cost of time and electricity.

>>23691649
Macbook is fucking amazing. It's amazingly configured and optimized hardware with stellar display and objectively best touchpad.

MacOS is what's horrible.

apple has $100 billion in the bank

how much does microsoft have

>>23692086
>OS X is horrible

You're a fucking retard.

>>23691893
>HPs
:|

>>23692071
Mmm, I don't necessarily think so..

I could say they can only use it to get more programmers, and advertising. I don't know, I would actually sit down and make sure they didn't fuck over the money if that ever happened. Wouldn't just hand it to them.

I think 20 million could get them pretty damn far. Probably a 1.0 kernel, and major improvements to GNU software. Maybe support from Photoshop, some DAW companies, and a true Office port, there'd be no reason not to use GNU/Hurd.

>>23692103
buy american act

>>23692071

It's funny 'cause it's true

>>23691649
Go to http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap-151/
It is a music production forum used by some of the best and most famous rock and metal producers out there.
The majority use windows, but the general consensus is that the OS doesn't matter much.
Pros and cons:
If you use OS X you can use Logic
If you use Windows you have a much, much larger selection of audio plugins available to you.

That said I know someone who has a mac and they have windows installed for audio production.

>>23692103
HP owns the DOD contracts for the service/support
you surprised they put their own stuff in the offices?

BTW, the probook/elitebook which you are seeing there is nowhere near the shit tier of the dv line the consumer's get.

>>23692111
>Logic
what's that?

>>23692071
Uh, what? Why would you make such a stupid statement? What makes you think throwing down $20 mill wouldn't improve the gnu project?

>>23691877
That is the coolest fucking room ever.

>If you use OS X you can use Logic
>use OS X
>Logic

Wat?

Crap spec? - check!
High price? - check!
Charge for updates? - check!

okayyyyyy

>>23692100
OSX is shit. Seriosuly, it is. There's no point in it's existence whatsoever. It combines the worst parts of Windows and GNU/Linux (shady, proprietary, poorly configurable shit; lack of software) with none of the bonuses.

>>23692125
http://www.apple.com/logicpro/

>>23692125
http://www.apple.com/logicpro/

>many music professionals
>deadmau5
well, at least we aren't talking about GOOD music professionals.

>>23692162
>>23692163
URLmind

>>23692162
>>23692163
I believe I have found my doppelganger.

>>23692183
>I believe my doppleganger has found me. Farewell.
Fixed, bro.

>>23691895
It's made out of aluminum.
Aluminum is easy as fuck to bend. I've bent aluminum sheets many times.

>>23692162
>>23692163
logicmind

>>23692163
>>23692162
Had to have hit that enter button literally milliseconds apart. You almost broke 4chan.

>>23692125
A DAW, like Pro Tools, Cubase, and Reaper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_audio_workstation
Also forgot to mention nearly all drivers for audio hardware are either windows exclusive or for both OSs
>>23692157
I don't like Logic, my favourite DAW is Reaper, but some people might want to use it. I can't think of any other benefit of using OS X other than just liking the operating system or something.

>>23692160
OS X is a kid friendly version of Linux without any of the driver related bullshit and all the other power user / low level shit available for anyone that wants to dick around it. What's wrong with it?

>>23692248
>What's wrong with it?
It's a closed-source, proprietary, expensive Linux that runs on a very limited set of hardware.

That's what.

>>23692272
It's good that it's closed source. Open source basically means it's less secure because hackers can view the source.

inb4 hurr you got so many eyes on the source code any problems will be fixed

yeah if that were true then linux would be free of bugs

>>23692036
Gosh damn that was fun to find.

http://canv.as/p/gqc2k/reply/782050?nav=cute

>>23692311
But if you're talking about hackers, linux IS the most secure.

>>23692311
>It's good that it's closed source. Open source basically means it's less secure because hackers can view the source.
>inb4 hurr you got so many eyes on the source code any problems will be fixed
>yeah if that were true then linux would be free of bugs
Same as Windows. And Windows has infinitely larger software base. Therefore, WIndows is superior.

And if you wanted configurable and open-ended, you should have picked Linux.

As I said, there is no reason for MacOSX to exist apart from the corporate ones.

>>23692333
SELinux maybe

For everything else its users are lead into a false sense of security

>As does the president of the united states

Explains why America is so fucked

>>23692345
Why isn't OS X the dominant server OS?

>>23692342
But windows isn't unix like

No I won't go back to using cygwin

I use openBSD, it fixes all my problems

my old physics teacher uses an x220t, and he laughs at shits using macbooks, as they can never answer any questions he asks them during the course
now what?

>>23691649
This is dead maufive. He uses a 17" macbook pro.
This is dead maufive.
dead maufive.
maufive.
>sir we have trolls on shortwave radar!

>>23692311
>He actually thinks security through obscurity is good.
Someone hasn't taken their information security 101 class yet...

>>23692424
Most researchers in pretty much every field use mac books. If you ever go to a scientific conference I'd bet the majority of researchers will have mac books of some form or other in hand.

>>23692587
He's taking it three times, but his jeans were too tight to listen and his Mac was constantly not prominent enough for onlookers.

Apple actually makes great laptops OP because dat thinness. Also the president of the united states isn't a compliment to it.

>>23692598
no

>>23692598
>Most researchers in pretty much every field use mac books.
Now you're just being crazy.

>>23692598
What software do they use that requires them to have a Macbook? I think they use it because they have a lot of money, and haven't the time to dedicate to researching a proper computer, so they compensate for that by overpaying.

This is fine, but there's absolutely no reason for someone outside of that realm to own a Macbook.

This is a TECHNOLOGY board. We all research technology in some form, so it's simply unacceptable for anyone here to talk highly of Macbooks.

>>23692638

He's right. Anyone that's actually worked in the field knows that, so it just shows your ignorance.

>>23692668

/g/ is mostly just /v/ fags raving about their glorified gaming boxes. Go to any CS department of any university with a strong CS program and count the mac books, they will be a huge majority. Go to any hacker conference and you'll see a huge majority with macs. Do you really think all these people buy macs because they're rich, stupid and don't know shit about technology? No, the reality is that these people buy Macs _because_ they know about technology, and not just what gaming graphics card benchmarks highest on some useless test.

People who care what products others use is exactly what's wrong with the market.

Protip: just because someone is famous doesn't make him an expert on computers.

>>23692758
I'd say a large majority of the GOOD /g/, which sadly doesn't exist much anymore, use GNU/Linux, or BSD. I do work study with the CS department at my school, and I've yet to see a Macbook past the 101 classes.

Of course, now we're BOTH just making baseless claims that we can't prove just to support our OS argument, so I suggest you stop posting, and I will too. Fair?

>>23692798

If you haven't seen a mac past 101 classes, you are in a shit school, sorry dude. Linux is the only sensible alternative to macs, but especially on laptops Apple just beats the shit out of it.

The reality is that researchers use macs because it's a POSIX system that runs MS Office natively. MS Office is sadly required to deal with the rest of the world, and no sensible person is going to write research software for Windows.

>>23692898
>If you haven't seen a mac past 101 classes, you are in a shit school, sorry dude.
No, I'm not actually, but there's no point in listing it, because you'd call it shit still even if it was an ivy league school, and if not, you'd just say I was lying, which is why this argument of nothing but baseless claims is pointless, and I find it hilarious and pathetic that you'd wish to continue it. Do you really have that severe of a case of buyer's remorse.

>Linux is the only sensible alternative to macs, but especially on laptops Apple just beats the shit out of it.
Wow, now I'm starting to think you're trolling. You're telling me an operating system that can be systematically configured to work seamlessly with any piece of hardware, and can support dozens of lightweight programs and WMs can't compete with an operating system that can only run on a very select set of hardware, with whatever bloat it comes with, and the inability to alter code to make it do as you wish instead of being controlled by it is better than GNU/Linux?

Sorry, but you're a fucking drone. A sheep. You're baaaaaaaing with your baseless claims because that's all you know. That's all you were taught by your overlords. It's pathetic, and actually quite sad. I pity the shit out of you, bro. I really, really do.

>>23692758
nope
they buy macs because they are rich
if you actually go to any CS department
majority will be thinkpads, dells, etc

If cigarettes are so bad, why do so many people smoke them?
If religion is so bad, why do so many people worship?
If eating McDonald’s is so bad, why do so many people do it?
If tanning beds are so bad, why do people use them?

>>23691649
>If macbook pro is so bad, why are so many people using them?

same with religion.
people are just stupid.

is CUDA not used much in the sciences?

>>23692979

Seriously, you have absolutely zero knowledge of operating systems, do you? If you print out what you wrote, and if you're actually in a decent university, I'm pretty sure it will qualify you for a refund on your tuition.

>>23693036
>Resort to ad hominem attacks.
Thanks for proving me correct. Enjoy your ignorance.

This is Skrillex. He also uses a macbook pro.
This effectively kills the professional status of the macbook pro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cifs8ZjcBMs

Deadrat is a butthurt so thats why he is using a Mac.

plagiarism and faggotry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC3EQmXAxU0

this is robot koch - he uses a thinkpad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A71i4DF5CY

>>23693170
This bro looks hella pimp. Thanks for the recommendation.

>>23693102
But its fake.

>>23692758
>Do you really think all these people buy macs because they're rich, stupid and don't know shit about technology?
Stupid, obviously, because they go to places like "hacker conference". And you really don't ahve to be rich to buy a Macbook.

>>23693204

Deadmau5 isn't even that good.

> A shit "artists" uses a Macbook Pro
> Professional

Only people who use Macbooks in music production, are bedroom DJ's.

>people pretending that macs are legitimate contenders for music production

"I don't know how to configure a computer" - Average macbook user involved with music production

Deadmaus also uses FL Studio, which doesn't run on a Mac.
http://www.image-line.com/documents/powerusers.html

Not that it matters, tho. Only stupid kids care about what their idols do or use.

He uses a Boxx "laptop" to do work on, believe he only uses the mac for very specific programs. He was asked if he uses alienware and just fucking laughed his ass off.

>>23693236
>>23693235
>go to gearslutz and/or presonus forums
>be amazed at how many of these so-called pros cannot into computer

Aphex Twin uses a run of the mill laptop. And he knows what he is doing.

>>23693271
> z
> pro

>>23693170
>Dem Technics SB-7000A

I like this guy.

>>23693271
>Gearslutz
Old men who are borderline illiterate.
>presonous
Haha.

The apple hate on here has been never ending for years but you guys need to realize that Jobs is DEAD.

They have the best tablet on the market in nearly every single way possible and their macbook air is incredible plus where they didn't invent anything they did open an incredibly interesting pathway into technology. Even other companies are taking notice and emulating them, you know you love some things about them.

For once, let it go. Apple is succeeding again where it used to be years ago just a joke with no market share because nobody cared about apple. Now it's the MVP of companies.

>>23693292
>Aphex Twin
>Good

Regardless
>implying he knows about techology

>>23693170

Musical knowledge, real instruments in studio, doing things live that directly influence the sound.. this guy is like the anti-skrillex. My faith in electronic music partially restored

Many people use heroin too.

>>23693359
>>implying he knows about techology

The fuck are you smoking?

Allow me.

>>23693408
But that has very little to do with knowing about technology.

>>23693359

You HAVE to be trolling?

>>23693430
>"open source"
you mean "free"

>>23693445
Right. Both in 99% of cases.

>>23693430
Switch windows comparability to moderate, OSX to low.