bimp

You got trolled. Usenet is pretty much shit, you have to pay to pirate, and programs on Usenet area always full of viruses.

In general, XDCC, DDL and/or torrents will always beat Usenet by quite some margin.

>>22822503

I was thinking exactly like this guy till I started using usenet. Its insane. Speed is excellent and you can use grabit till you find something that isn't shit. SSL is a big plus. RAR archives and split files are annoying though.

>>22822503

Congratulations - you're a dumbass moron with no clue.

>>22822531
>Speed is excellent
DDL and XDCC speeds are crazy as well, plus you get more content to boot.

Torrent content is the widest by a huge margin, but the speed can be dubious at times.

Well seeded torrents give me speeds of about 12.5 MB/s

It has just taken me two seconds to find xvid dvd rips of Black Books. You need to search better.

>>22822531
I'm using grabit to download. Problem is I can't find good files. Also seems like the majority of non HD movies are in 2cd format for some reason. Didn't think people still did that.

Usenet is alright.
I mean you get blazing speeds and all that good.
No community though and there's a fuck ton of spam and virus'.
The layout is horrible yes I know it doesn't matter.
You don't care about that shit you just want your files.
I like torrents personally.
Why?
Most of the shit I get from torrents is stuff that needs to be organised, you don't get that on usenet.
On trackers I'm guaranteed quality, usenet not so much.
I've also found content that I can't find on usenet on torrents.

Anyways, I like torrents and am going to stay with them.
Usenet is great and all but it's just not for me.
Go ahead, try it out if you want. It's great if you want something that wouldn't be seeded well on torrents really fast.

Usenet is currently the safest option. I'm sure some faggot will chime in soon with some bullshit about private torrent trackers, when in fact those are the worst in terms of security.

>>22822598
>torrents
>not secure
Stop living in the land of free.

If you're new to usenet you really need to get yourself an NZBMatrix account. It's a godly indexer with commenting to filter out the broken shit and viruses, absolutely worth the £7 for a lifetime account.

I was checking out my options ever since MU went down too. Usenet sounds meh. Tried looking at paying for rapidshare again (tried it a few years ago) but man is it expensive these days ($16 a month) and it's "out of stock" anyway, whatever that means. What's my best option? Paying for a vpn so I can torrent? (Comcast threatened to cut my connection last time they caught men they're the only isp around here)

I was thinking of cracking my neighbor's WEP and downloading from their internet. Is there some way I could get caught or they could track it to me?

any good guides for setting up for usenet or something on the lines of that around?

first off usenet has been around sense pre internet days, and yes it can be daunting, but some of the great ways to find files are things like merlins portal, nzb matrix , newzbin , etc, alot of the time its hard to find old stuff,and mostly all 0day go through usenet first,so if your looking for that its great, but the community so is awesome just ask for old shit, secondly do watch the fuck out for virus' from douchey dicks and bots i assume and enjoy your blazing fast encrypted dl's

Get astraweb and nzbmatrix account, install sabnzbd+, add your server and account info you got from astraweb, download your shit.

Goddamn is it a pain to sort through the index searches. Why isn't there some better way to have everything organized? Someone should make a usenet tracker or something where they post descriptions of downloads of entire series and link to a nzb or something. goddammit

>>22822689
It's called nzbmatrix.

>>22822689
unfortunately the only taggin is really the groups so i guess indexers
>>22822699
is this nzbmatrix free?

>>22822715
No but it's only $10 for a lifetime sub and it has a huge active community. If you're gonna pay to pirate you may aswell go all the way.

>>22822633
If they get suspicious they could catch you, but just don't be a dick in the first place.

>>22822728
lifetime? that seems reasonable for server costs and whatnot, do they allow multiple computers as in not blocking multiple ip's like could i share it with a bro?

>>22822753
Yep I've been sharing an account with 2 friends for like 4 years now.

>>22822760
amazing, paypal friendly?

>>22822760
Share with me please? :3

>>22822760
so how many user indexed articles do they have, is it similar in stature to say warez bb or tehparadox?

>>22822764
According to the frontpage paypal isn't working right now but they have some other options.

>>22822781
A shitload. The have a bot that automatically add most new things and users take care of the rest.

Just checked out nzbmatrix. Place looks amazing, how are there not more (and free) sites like that? I was looking for a place like warez forums or torrent trackers. Goddamn it, I'll have to buy another visa giftcard though (trying to be as secure as possible, I'm paranoid of being sued or disconnected from the internet)

Usenet sucks don't buy it. Pirates have moved to media fire now and EVERYTHING is being uploaded to it.

>>22822808
That's not true.

>>22822793
amazing,since your here and all and im going to join that site btw, know of anything like rlslog or scensrc that has good labeled shit with nzbs?

It's funny that these PAY2PIRATE Usenet sites are wholly vulnerable to a /single/ person running a newsserver, and giving feeds to other people, who feed out to others, and so on.

Fortunately for their business model, the mental cripples who pay for their ripoff shit can't into newsservers..

I only use nzbmatrix and binsearch for the rare things that aren't indexed.

Look up sickbeard too if you watch a lot of TV shows.

>>22822810
[spoiler]I know it's not but I don't want un to get popular. If it does the US government will shut it down :([/spoiler]

>>22822825
>wholly vulnerable to a /single/ person running a newsserver

Um, it's clearly you who has no idea how usenet works.

>>22822825
you know that all of the newsgroups are cross referenced right?

There you go, Black Books:
http://nzbs.org/index.php?action=search&q=black.books&catid=0&age=

idk why people think buying usenet is a weird or shitty thing to do, isp's used to provide it for free, its cheaper than a netflix account and fuckin its not for the dl's its for the access anyway
>>22822843
shit thats why its so fuckin hard to find good places to get shit tho, both a blessing and a curse

>>22822861
ok that site, when the fuck will registration open back up or is it private now?

>>22822873
>shit thats why its so fuckin hard to find good places to get shit tho, both a blessing and a curse
People go by the "don't talk about usenet" rule.

www.nzbs.org - general nzb index site

www.nzbsrus.com - similar to the above but slightly more active. But requires a $10 account to download more than 5 nzbs a day.

www.nzbmatrix.com - similar to nzbsrus

www.fanzub.com - Mainly an anime nzb index site but also has other Japanese media

www.nzbindex.com - nzb search engine, no comments just the raw nzbs

www.binsearch.info - same as above, sometimes seems to pickup more nzbs.

www.kleverig.nl - Porn, with comments and screencaps (most of the time)


There you go, that should get you going.

>>22822895
i know but it really adds a fuckin curve ball for new users who arent necesarily new to getting downloads and have an addiction to fill
>>22822913
oh god thank you a pron one finally,oron still hasnt gone under tho

>>22822913
Forgot nzbxxx.com which is basically the porn version of nzbmatrix but accounts are free.

>>22822894
Shit, sorry didn't know registration was closed :(.

>>22822933
i know man, i sad

>>22822924
Yeah, didn't have much content over kleverig nor had much comments/screencaps last time I checked. May have gotten better since, but kleverig really has everything I need.

>>22822846
Pray tell, what is it I don't know? A bit of Path: header munging, and the Astraweb people still haven't realized that for the last ~7 years I've been stealing a feed off them for my organization through a freebie subsidiary ISP server. Same could be done for anyone else.

>>22822950
just made an account, not too shabby, kleverig is setup a little more user friendly although they have a haness php script for some image site on there

>>22822968
thats prolly because that isp has free usenet access, not new, alot of peeps used to have that

>>22822741
How would they be able to do so?

>>22822970
>although they have a haness php script for some image site on there

Do elaborate?

>>22822988
mac address/logging and a spectrography tool

>>22823000
noticed some kinda image hoster that had a malwary redirector script kinda shit to it was kinda weird,blocked it but who knows, guess you could send a bug report

>>22823010
thinking about it it could have just been a redirect to a different image, still tho caught me as odd

Rules 1 and 2 of Usenet, guys.

>>22823032
but im trying to learn, which is so fuckin hard with those rules, its a fairly anonymous board that gets deleted periodically anyway, guess i could start saging

>>22823044
>its a fairly anonymous board that gets deleted periodically anyway,
http://archive.installgentoo.net/g/

But op asked. No one brought it up randomly. Saging to keep pirate club a secret anyway. Is there any way to not pay for nzbmatrix?

>>22823053
aside from that, that site does kinda strike me as wtf tho

>>22822982
Internode.on.net have a nntp-caching setup.
If the company I work at where to ask Astra for a feed, they'd be all Jewish on us ($1800/year?), which they did when I originally set up the newsserver here ('hey, the precedent for the past 25 years has been to pass it around for free between peer servers.. uunet certainly had no problems with it..) Nuh, Astra did a cease-and-desist on us, and Internode didn't have the balls to side with establish Internet practice. So instead, I made the leeching and posting invisible to Astra by changing the Path: header around a little. 7 years later, still doing it.
You could do it too.
But you can't.

>>22823058
>>22823044
https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Can%20anyone%20explain%20to%20me%20how%20to%20unl
ock%20the%20magical%20powers%20of%20usenet%3F%22

>>22823079
a cookie for you then

>>22823080
gd, what has the world come to , why the hell did someone think that was necessary anyway?

>>22823079
>internode
I'm with them.
Don't have much to say though.
It works, meh.

They don't advertise it anywhere, I guess it's a little trade between advanced users and Internode, as a wink wink nudge thing?

>>22823123
Supernerd had/has usenet as well, but I moved from them as it was cheaper to get unlimited ADSL1 plus pay for astraweb.

Usenet has a bit of a steep learning curve, but once you get the hang of it and understand what to look for and what NOT to look for, it's actually very transparent.

I've been paying for PowerUsenet for about 5 years now, and I've also been paying for the best Usenet client - Usenet Explorer, which as a paid search service run by the developer which is every bit as fantastic as it sounds.

Sure binsearch.net and the other search sites are adequate, but the fine granular control offered by a built in search engine is extremely powerful.

For "new" people I'd suggest SABnzbd+ & binsearch or some other nzb indexing site. Sorting through headers is not for the faint of heart.

>>22823143
sameboat

what makes SABnzbd better than grabit?

>Paying for Usenet
>Paying for Usenet to be like just like a DC Hub.
>Paying for Usenet to be like just like a DC Hub that's slower to download from, and takes more fartarsing about to get stuff.

>>22823158

How you can possibly say a paid usenet client is the best, and mention SABnzbd+ in the same post, is beyond me. No paid client is the best, and SABnzbd+ is the best free client, ergo SABnzbd+ is the best client.

You're also paying too much for your host and getting too little in return, you should be using Astraweb instead of Powerusenet (I used to use PU).

>>22823175
>Paying for Usenet to be like just like a DC Hub that's slower to download from...

Astraweb maxes out my 100mbps connection.

>>22823158
I'd say XPN is pretty adequate for a newsreader and Sabnzbd is excellent for NZBs, although I don't really have that much experience with usenet in general. So far I'm satisfied, but not amazed. Astraweb is mighty cheap so I figured I'd waste a day's wage on it.

>>22823187
There's also nzbget, it's minimal and commandline, I like the interface and it does everything I need it to do.

Is there something like Nzbmatrix but for new releases only? Like what most private torrent trackers do.

Half the shit on nzbmatrix is decades old on the frontpage. I appreciate that they have so much shit but I don't like that it clutters the view for new things.

>>22823349
Give a free usenet indexer a spin with the release dir.

>>22823349
Not that i know of.
If you just check the categories you're interested in daily you're not likely to miss anything. Look at the hits column for an indicator of what's actually new and popular.

>>22822570
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
DDL/XDCC speeds are assey unless you pay up, most of the sites ive seen limit free user speeds.
XDCC last time I used had better speeds then DDL, but then you gotta wait in a que and almost never as fast as usenet.

>Well seeded torrents give me speeds of about 12.5 MB/s
That's nice, all content on usenet is always at max speed.

The pitfall to usenet is retention, torrents pitfall is the swarm size. Works great for popular stuff, not so much for everything else, and lets face it there is a large portion of users who are nothing but a drain on the swarm.

>No community though and there's a fuck ton of spam and virus'.
There are communities, generally paid (some have $XX for YYY days, others are $10 for 10 years sub) and they vet the files, post comments about it. If you are using a search engine primarily to find your content you are doing it wrong. seriously wrong. Or learn to filter by size properly.

Porn is probably the worst on usenet, nzbxxxmatrix is whatever is tryying to change that.
so much shit, repeating content, and viruses. or passworded archives.
Searching vague terms yeilds the worst results, like "asian teen" might give you the same 15 videos, with 200 results.
But if you know some specific title or actress you can get some ok stuff, no previews for any of it.

>>22822913
mysterbin.com is better than binsearch

>>22823349
Why don't you just use private trackers?

>>22823385
I do. I'm on Torrentleech with still 4tb of buffer but .torrents are scaring me right now and I don't want to get a letter from some law firm asking for money.

>>22823380
Retention isn't anywhere near as much of an issue as it was 3-4 years ago though, it was pretty annoying when the best servers had less than a year.

>>22823374
I'm not sure what you mean. Something like orlydb with an integrated usenet search looking for the release filenames?

That would be pretty amazing but I don't know if it exists.

I signed upto astraweb last night, just to try it out.
First feeling what is this bullshit, fuck this.
30 minutes later, pic related.

70GB of entire X-files in about 3 hours. Loads more 720p shows and 1080p movies going too. I doubt I will ever use anything else again.

>>22823435
Just wait until you start using Sickbeard

>>22823403
>torrentleech
>private

>>22823439
Oh god, I'm excited, should I be?

>>22823439
Are the tvdb people still aspie fags with episode numbering making loads of new eps fail to download?

so what seems to be the general consensus here on what usenet thing i should use?

sickbeard?

>>22823457
Haven't had a problem yet these last couple weeks. Probably downloaded 2tb worth of HD shows just because I can

>>22823459
>usenet thing

Be more specific.

>>22823459
Sabnzbd and Sickbeard go hand in hand

Wow, mysterbin is a huge step up from binsearch. Thanks to whoever recommended it.

>>22823463
Nice, when i tried it a year ago it was amazing in theory but the tvdb people refused to accept scene episode numbering so if it didn't match official production codes it just wouldn't dl.

>>22823450
sickbeard basically is like a PVR for your computer.

tell what shows to grab, the format to grab it in (SD/HD/whatever)
it does the rest, grabbing the shows, organizing. good shit.

>22823459
You need
1) a provider which grants you access to the servers, there are many try out a trial first.
2) a client that lets you download things from usenet
3)knowledge where to find .nzb files (they are like.torrent files) check out nzbmatrix (they have an option for free users)

that should get you started

>>22823487
fuck that sounds massively complicated

This is all you need for the best usenet experience ever.
- A provider (i use astraweb)
- Sabnzbd (client, web based)
- SickBeard (for downloading and organizing tv shows)
- CouchPotato (for downloading and organizing movies)
- NzbMatrix VIP account
- Sabnzbd firefox extensions
- QuickPar (to repair blocks)
- Lots of hard drive space

That's it. Configure those things well and you'll see why usenet is awesome. Yes, it can take time to set it how you want it, but once everything's done, you'll be glad you did it.

>>22823526
does any of that cost money?

>>22823515
you need #2 and #3 for torrenting anyways, so having #1 as a one time setup is not that bad.

>>22823515
Its not.

You basically sign up at a provider - they give you a user name and password and their server.

You get a client, much like say utorrent. but you put in the server, your user name, password.

Then you find and download nzbs from search engines - much like the pirate bay. Think of it like that, but when you download it lightening fast.

>>22823423
Get the release dir name from orlydb, and search for it on binsearch or something.
Get the oldest file you can find to avoid fakes/virusses/passwordprotected/etc

>>22823555
Of course.
Astraweb $11 a month.
Im guessing NzbMatrix VIP costs too.

>>22823555
The provider and a one-off payment for nzbmatrix.

Usenet is not really poorfag friendly which is one of the main reasons for its continued survival.

>>22823555
NZBmatrix VIP is 11GBP for lifetime (17 USD; the exchange rate used to be better)
astraweb is $11/mo (or $8/mo if billed yearly) although there are free providers (I've heard many have shut down though due to load)

>>22823555
The provider have a monthly fee. You can get astraweb for 96 dollars per year.
Also, NzbMatrix VIP account cost 10 dollars, one time only.

So why do we suddenly love nzbmatrix over newzbin.com?

I'd get a nzbmatrix account now but they stopped accepting paypal.

>>22823558
thanks for the simple and straightforward explanation. sounds easy enough. i really wasnt expecting a good explanation so thanks

but it sounds like it'll cost money so i'll stick with torrenting for now. i'll try it later when i'm less poor

It's reliable and has a much better layout and search options.

>>22823610
reply to >>22823597

>>22823604
When you can just try astraweb for $11, I noticed a lot of the trials you still had to sign up with payment information etc, so I just thought fuck it. Definitely worth it, I only started last night.

>>22823597
fuck of a lot cheaper (11gbp once instead of $30 a year), as good.

>>22823630
just try gigajews with paypal. 14 day trial for free, they cancel immediately if you ask. I canceled on day 13.

>>22823643
I really don't get how those fuckers are still doing business, their prices are obscene.

>>22823601
what are the options?

just pick up a prepaid card and use the balance of that.

Does anybody use the SSL servers or just normal?

>>22823668
I don't think anybody still uses non ssl

>>22823659
Google checkout and SMS.

>>22823676
I don't bother with it, my ISP is still on the customer's side.

>>22823654
one of the oldest names in the industry.

i have to say, if you want a one packagee deal, the VPN + usenet are not bad. they are just overpriced.

>>22823668
>>22823676
if you're using a paid server generally you will use SSL to avoid monitoring (rare in practice) or throttling (more common in practice)

>>22823681
>google checkout, yahoo throwaway email (so you don't get the "verify by phone" shit from google with gmail)
>visa gift card with whatever name you want registered
>???
>profit

I'm rocking Xlned 2.5mbit for 25€/year

It's 0.5mbit below my connection speed but fuck it for that price.

>>22823676
Both my ISPs only offer non SSL sadly. But sniffing/storing that sort of traffic is illegal where I live anyway so I feel reasonably safe.

>>22823169
Grabit is a combination of client + 'community'
The upkeep of the database costs monies.
And when compared to nzbmatrix's cost of $10 for 10 years, $25/yearly on grabit seems like a bad deal.
meanwhile sab is just an open source client that is free.


>>22823701
usenet is the reason I upgraded from 5mbit to 25mbit vdsl connection at home.
setup sab to be 1.5MB/sec max, downloads in the background hardly notice any kind of slowdown, ping is always below 100ms

It never makes any sense the first time you use it.

If you can't eventually figure out how to use SABNZBplus and NZBMATRIX on your own, then you should just throw your PC away and learn how to make wooden shoes instead.

>>22823741
why not just do QoS on the router and lower the priority of usenet traffic so it can use your full connection when nothing else is happening and throttle back when it needs to?

>>22823717
isps that provide usenet turn a blind eye
less complaints, traffic is usually on a cheaper route, etc.

does usenet work on a mac
i dont wanna install drivers for this i just want it to work like everything else

>>22823768
usenet doesn't use drivers
sabnzbd, couchpotato, sickbeard, etc. all run fine on a mac

Other than retention, speed and the amount you can download, does your provider matter?

>>22823788
-the more a provider is resold, the more likely things are to be removed for DMCA reasons. Giganews and Highwinds resell the fuck out of their usenet so some things do get removed. Giganews commonly has failures downloading HBO shows for this reason.
-completion can be an issue. towards the end of retention, highwinds tends to have issues.
http://www.newsgroupservers.net/newsgroup_server_resellers

>>22823526
Holy fucking santaclaus shit.
I've been using usenet for years and never heard of sickbeard.
This program is awesome.
I wish I could suck your dick through the internet, you've saved me so much time downloading TV shows.

http://www.news.astraweb.com/locate.cgi?searchgroup=alt.binaries.erotica&Button=Find+Group

oh wow
also, if you download anything from the groups that are obviously illegal, expect a raid.

>>22823846
and of course
http://www.news.astraweb.com/locate.cgi?searchgroup=alt.sex&Button=Find+Group
>alt.sex.bondage.sco.unix
what is this I dont even

>>22823846
That's what I'm afraid of with all the automated shit I got going now. That one day some faggot thinks he's being funny and automatically pushes a crapload of CP on my computer

>>22823866
>alt.sex.midgets

>>22823833
No problem, SickBeard really is awesome.
Also, to anyone who wants to try CouchPotato and SickBeard without a usenet account: they work with torrents too. It's not as good as with usenet, but you can get an idea.

>>22823894
But it only supports public trackers, right?

If your file system is complex/disorganized for sickbeard then episodebutler is a good alternative for tv downloading.

Does anyone have a problem with couchpotato downloading movies with dutch subtitles, or foreign films with none? I've tried to filter the dutch groups but I'm still getting them.

Also, trying to download In Time downloads Spy Kids: All the Time in the World instead. Any ideas?

Should I go with usenetserver or supernews, both are $10 a month.