>>>/o/ ?

Automatics have been around for a very long time, and they're still as terrible now as they were when they were first introduced.

Troll thread. This faggot keeps posting this shit. Troll line starts here.

Seriously guy, if you're going to troll, be original. And if you're going to use an old troll, try not to use it every single day several times a day.

Because they need that big shifter to make up for their tiny penis.

> Automatic
> New technology

They've been around since cars have been around

>>21929755
>Why would i need to drive a manual car?
> IN CASE THERE IS AN EMERGENCY AND THE ONLY CAR IS A MANUAL HERP DERP

>>21929794

>Why would i need to drive a manual car?

- Fuel efficiency
- Better utilization of the engines power
- Demonstrate superior driving skill
- Own a sports car not a shitty commuter car.

>>21929794

More fun than driving automatic

>>21929813
>- Demonstrate superior driving skill
HURR DURR I OVER COMPLICATE THINGS THAT MAKES ME BETTER ARCH FTW GUISE

>>21929843

You sound super jelly of people who can drive manual.

You lot are fucking morons and will argue about anything. As has already been pointed out, this thread keeps appearing several times a day and has done for the past several days.

Stop it.

>>21929856
0/10

>>21929813
>Why would i need to use Arch?
- Power efficiency
- Better utilization of the CPU and GPU power
- Demonstrate superior computer skill
- Own a scientist's computer not a shitty Facebook machine.

> mfw in my county automatic cars are on a separate licence which is easier to get, holders of an automatic licence can't drive manual cars but a manual car licence holder can drive both.

Because of this everyone laughs at automatic drivers because they didn't have the skill to obtain the manual licence.

>>21929794
What? By all means drive an automatic. Seriously, do whatever the fuck you want. Personally, I prefer manuals, but I also see that 98% of the world can't drive them properly, which is also a pain when you're setting next to someone like that.

>be a passenger
>car is going 60kmph
>straight road, speed is stable
>it's in 3rd, engine spinning at 3500RPM
SHIFT GODDAMMIT, SHIFT

Or people who shift in corners, in the wet, at freeway speeds, ... all of my scared for my life.

Or people who "engine brake" on their clutch. I've also yet to meet anyone who can downshift properly.

>>21929858

>Implying you don't spend way too much time on 4chan
>Implying you arrent a butt devestated automatic transmission operator

>>21929873
>I don't know what engine braking is.

I drive a 2 seater sports car. Those don't come in automatic.

>>21929882
I know perfectly well what engine braking is, the problem is that driving schools give WRONG information on what engine braking is.

>hurr you should shift down and slowly let the clutch out if you want to slow down

I can't imagine a better way to wear out your clutch. Frankly, I wouldn't give a shit about it, but when is driving my car and does that, it's like a thousand daggers stabbing me in the heart.

Not this thread again. /sigh

>>21929873
>Or people who "engine brake" on their clutch. I've also yet to meet anyone who can downshift properly.

that drives me nuts too. its either in, or out, there is no half way, as that wears down and could potentially shatter your clutch from rapid heating and cooling

>>21929882
He does, but hes implying they ride the clutch, not just let it out

>>21929907
when someone is driving my car*

>automatic

>>21929873
>live in country
>everybody wants their manual licence
>i just want an automatic licence
>WAT IF THEIR IS AN EMERGENCY AND THA ONLY CAR IS AN MANUAL AND U R ON A FARM YOU ARE SO STOOPID
>mfw these people stayed in the same shitty area
>mfw i moved to a larger city, where an automatic is perfect

Manual=Country bumpkin poorfags with no future prospects

Automatic=City Slicker master race with too many important things to do to waste time with playing with your car

>>21929877

>implying you aren't one lonely same fag posting as multiple people in this thread. Including me.

When 99% of the cars on the road are manual you don't have much choice in driving manual.

>>21929907
>problem is that driving schools give WRONG information

i dunno about you, but when I went to drivers ed way back in high school(2003), they would not even teach manuals, they just taught autos. I asked the instructor about it, and he said that you can learn it on your own, and "its too complicated for most people." That left me going wat all the way home. I learn to drive on a manual, its not complicated, its just about practice. I think everyone should learn how to drive on a manual, because no heavy machinery is auto, and its a good learning experience, but driving schools today dont even teach manual.

>>21929935
Manual=Linux

Automatic=Windows

Penny Farthing=Mac

>>21929942
>proud of being inferior

Enjoy your fisher-price driving licence

>>21929907
Let me guess, you're American?

>>21929942

> Automatic = Invalid or woman not smart enough to get the manual licence.

You know it's true bro. Even if you got the manual licence you could still drive automatic but have the added ability of being able to drive manual if needed.

I'm American, and I drive a manual.
Actually had to pay extra for it.

It's a Ford Focus btw.

>>21929953
>its too complicated for most people.
>a stick with 6 positions
>and an extra pedal
>too complicated
This is America, right? Good lord, what would happen if we added a manual choke to that?

>>21929953

>no heavy machinery is auto

I used to drive one of these in work and it was a three speed auto. I used to have to collect loads of cement in the bucket, so when I was racing down the yard in it with the bucket up high the back end got very light, so you'd throw the bucket down and jump on the brakes and the whole arse end of it would lift up of the ground and you performed the perfect endo. Good times. Miss that gig.

>>21929943

thisismysecondpost.co.uk

glad you confirmed my message though sunshine!

I've driven both and I have a auto myself. I find that I concentrate better on the road with an auto and I'm not gaining anything extra so why have the extra Autism?

>>21930018

> I'm not gaining anything extra

You gain the following from driving manual

- Better fuel efficiency
- Better power efficiency
- More control

Of course if you drive some shitty commuter car washing machine on wheels this stuff isn't important.

>>21930018
Yeah. You wouldn't be gaining anything except better performance, fuel efficiency, greater safety, cheaper maintenance, smoother ride, greater vehicle control...

>>21930047
>Of course if you drive some shitty commuter car washing machine on wheels this stuff isn't important.
You pretty much hit the nail on its head there. If I was stuck in traffic jams the whole time I'd get an automatic too, and there's a 99% chance of that happening within the next year. Bye bye my sweet manual.

>>21930076
>not keeping manual to develop abs of steel

Filthy Untermensch!

>>21930048
>smoother ride
You've never been driven by an American in a stick-shift. It's like you're riding a goddamn kangaroo.

>>21930000
nice quads

how is the Focus? thinking of going for the MkII

pic related, a MkII

>>21930018


THIS
Auto drivers are safer, they concentrate on controlling their car whilst manual drivers are constantly distracted by their gear changes and rev counts, it's doubling the amount of work

>>21930007

Me again. I don't have a preference for manual or auto. I can see the pros and cons of both. If I want to go out for a hoon, I'll go with an auto all day everyday. However, I test drove a BMW 335i auto and it was scary just how fast you went from 0 - silly speeds. The autobox was no slouch.

My next car? Probably going to be some old second hand japanese luxo barge like a Honda Legend or something. Electric and leather everything. And yes. An auto box, for wafting about not giving a fuck.

>>21930047
>>21930048
Sure I'd get better fuel and power efficiency, but it would still be shit so it's irrelevant.

Also more control is bullshit. My car is a large rear wheel drive with shitty traction in weather and I had no problem with an auto in heavy snow and ice. Unless you are racing, etc. you will not gain anything and are just being autistic and illogical.

>smoother ride
>greater safety
Prove it.

>>21930123

I'll go with a manual all day everyday*

fuck

>>21930114

> constantly distracted by their gear changes and rev counts
> Just because I find it hard that means everyone finds it hard.

One could say auto drivers are worse drivers because they don't have the brain capacity to multi task.

>OP cant drive w/ a stick

I laugh at you.

Here in Europe we mostly drive with a manual transmition unlike you 'murrikan peasants that get scared as soon as they hear their shitty little car isnt an Automatic.

Enjoy your poor fuel efficiency, lack of driving Dynamics and larger CO2 exhaust.

>>21930114
Manual keeps you in perfect control for every scenario

>>21930136

> more control is bullshit

Automatic: Can't choose what gear you want to be in
Manual: Can

There is your more control

>>21930143
This, shifting is second nature

BECAUSE RACE CAR

>>21930160
I'm not going to be in a situation where that would be of use. Irrelevant.

>>21930149

>Enjoy your poor fuel efficiency

This isn't really an issue now-a-days with modern autoboxes, particularly in the mercs, bmws and lexus motors. I don't know shit about American cars so I'm not going to comment on those.

>>21930187

> Just because I don't need it nobody else does.

> Approach corner
> Brake for corner
> Automatic transmission doesn't shift down
> Bog down on corner exit because you're not in the optimum rev range

>>21930190
In our cheap, small cars, the auto (CVT) is usually more efficient than the manual. The efficiency divide increases once one factors in how poorly many people shift their cars, especially cheap, dull ones.

>>21930114
>Auto drivers are safer, they concentrate on controlling their car whilst manual drivers are constantly distracted by their gear changes and rev counts, it's doubling the amount of work

I laughed.

You know, it has been scientifically proven that chewing gum while driving increases concentration.

Same goes with a manual transmition, You DRIVE the car, thus concentration.

>>21930204
> Just because I don't need it nobody else does.
Never said that. I'm saying if you can't make use of it's advantages, then it's stupid.

I think most companies will be moving to paddle shifts and electronic automatic combo boxes or whatever the fuck they are. The shifting time is now near instantaneous and the efficiency is nowhere near as bad as old autos of early cars and particularly of 80s and early 90s cars. You still get the benefit of manual shifting but without the hassle of operating the clutch and shit yourself. I'm sure even the VW Golf comes with a paddle shift setup now. DSG or whatever it's called

>expecting reason from a country that gives up every right to fight TURRISTS

>>21929843

I drive an automatic and I will say that I would much rather have control over the gear shifting. especially in low powered cars, it's annoying as fuck to try to overtake and have it shift down and waste time and waste gas. driving an automatic is not really driving.

Automatic gear box?

what next, powered steering to take control away from the driver? straps that hold you into your seat?

>>21930232

Had a wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-Shift_Gearbox

truck driver 18 speed master race

>>21930252
Butthurt manualfag detected.

Auomatic controls, just like ABS traction control and stability control are pieces of shit designed to take the fun out of driving for boring accountants and women.

I will never be purchasing a new car since it's the law that new cars have to have ABS, traction control and stability control.

In a few decades they wont let you drive the car at all.

>>21930273
>Auomatic controls, just like ABS traction control and stability control are pieces of shit designed to take the fun out of driving

Autistic as fuck

>>21930261
That indeed is master race.

I know this guy whos a trucker(Also gay and suspected Pedo but who cares..) and he had the truck @ home soo we went for a luls drive.

I didnt drive but fuck.. even watching tells you that thing is complicated.

>>21930259
>>21930232

Knows what he's talking about. Ya'll are gonna be pissed when you've got flappy paddles.

>>21930047

>Of course if you drive some shitty commuter car washing machine on wheels this stuff isn't important.

Actually, it's more important. Like I said before, the power you lose is a lot more noticeable in an underpowered car.

Sage for troll thread.

>>21930273
If you want to have fun then go to a race track. On public roads safety is more important.

>>21930287

Boring as fuck.

>>21930287
By fun, do you mean unpredictable and possibly deadly loss of control after *you* intentionally or otherwise exceed the car's sane limits? By all means, if you want your car to blindly crash without even offering feedback if you try and hoon it wildly, that's actually a win. One less really irritating person around.

>>21930232
you cannot downshift those selectable auto transmissions like you want. if the engine RPM is not below a certain speed, regardless of what it would put the RPMs at after(assuming its a safe range), it will not let you downshift. Upshift all you want, downshift no so much.

>>21930303

> If you want to have fun then go to a race track

What in your shitty automatic car with ABS and traction control?

Like that's going to be any fun.

>>21930303
>>21930311

> They think a car without any driver aids is impossible to drive safely and will crash at any second.

I'm probably a better driver than you seeing as I don't need mechanical aids to keep the car on the road.

>>21930273
>I will never be purchasing a new car since it's the law that new cars have to have ABS, traction control and stability control.
Can't you disable that shit? Why wouldn't you want ABS? Can you pump your brake 140 times per second? Why would you do something like disable a convenience feature. Yeah it's bad if you have to rely on it, but why be so illogical? The stability control and traction control makes things worse though, especially in winter. I usually drive my mom's car because fuck gas prices and the traction control really sucks. It also doesn't have working ABS which is no big deal but it still sucks dick.

Remember when cars were cars and not computers on wheels?

>>21930302
Yep. While the reverse is now true, self-shiting transmissions used to reduce power output and cost fuel efficiency. Americans could accept that, but Europe, thanks to post-Marshall austerity, could not and with the culture it brought, still cannot accept using larger engines to compensate nor accept questionable fuel economy.

Suppose manuals just still sell their because they've such a tradition of driving them. Maybe Euro companies should sell models with a CVT and a big jelly dong mounted in the console that provides gearing suggestions.

>>21930324
if only it was possible to turn it off...


>>21930360
Remember when the world was a shittier place?

>>21930360

Yeah. They had a tendency to kill people. Horribly.

>>21930359

ABS is bad because it makes people think they have magical breaks that can stop quicker.

If you can threshold brake you don't need abs.

>>21930359
ABS is damn handy to have, Besides theres a switch to turn it off, atleast there should be.

Traction control is anoying tho, I live in a pretty shithole place myself and whenevers snowing I need to improvise like you.

i have an Indonesian chap drive my car for me.

Driving manual has shown me how fucking retarded other drivers are. When I see a red light ahead I get out of gear and just let my car roll the rest of the way. I'm shocked how everyone else keeps accelerating towards the red light, or the one behind me quickly changes lanes to pass me. By the time I get to the light it turns green and I don't even have to brake.

>>21930370

>While the reverse is now true...

What? The fluid coupling will always lose more energy than a clutch.

>>21930379

> Turn off an automatic transmission

Good look with that

>>21930388

> They had a tendency to kill unskilled people

Problem?

I personally find it sickening that now any rich boy can jump in a super car and the computers will work to keep him alive while he drives shit.

>>21930395

This is not related to the ongoing debate. You can do either with either transmission. I do the same thing in my automatic. I also engine break on hills by using the low gear selector, but it doesn't do much since the brake wear / carbon buildup is negligible.

>>21930389

You can't brake as fast as a computer though. The whole point of ABS is to slam on the anchors and let it do what you physically are incapable of doing. Unless you can catch and release the brakes hundreds of times a second....

If you want to threshold brake and toe heel and all your other "HURR AM ARTON SENNA I'M DEAD" race car driver, fuck off to a track.

>>21930359
ABS is okay, but i disable traction control, stability control, and ABS on all my vehicles(they can all be shut off thru the computer with a tuning unit). I dont like traction, since I know that some wheelspin is okay, but its up to the driver to moderate it(me). ABS is okay, but I am practiced at peak braking, and do not panic when in a potential crash situation, and stability managment is for chumps, i wanna slide my car, so fuck you.

>>21930436
peak braking takes practice, and if you are good at it, it stops quicker than ABS, especially in snow and ice...

>>21930415
The problem is they kill innocent bystanders too.