Bump for interest

underage and b&, bumping for interest.
how's leciestrtetrtst by the way? what kind of results did you get for your a-levels?

Uni: CCAF
Course: Aerospace tech
Year: 2nd
Happy with course? Yes
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: have decent paying job now, getting free healthcare, excellent promotion opportunities, shit loads of collage money after i'm done, and bonuses for spending time overseas

>>21825320
I moved to the UK from the states so I don't have A levels, I graduated high school with a 3.75 though. Leicester is a great little uni, good community and the lecturers are great, highly recommend.

>>21825435
>>21825435
So manu good unis offering Compsci courses. Birmingham seems to be the only one with a join AI and compsci course though. Mmmm AI.
May i ask how much programming experience you had before your course?

>>21825616
*many; *joint
goddamn swype

Uni: Birmingham City
Course: Forensic Computing
Year:First
Happy with course? Yes
Prospects of getting a job: Seems to be in demand but will be tricky to get a decent job

>>21825616
Imperial London has a CompSci with AI course. Imperial is master race for all things Science and Maths too

>>21824950

Is that Skyrim? What resolution is that?

>>21824950
Uni: Warwick, UK
Course: Economics
Year: 2nd
Happy? Very
Prospects: Should be able to get a job I guess, but I don't want to work in the UK (I'm not from the UK anyway)

Uni: The Open Uni (I have a full time job)
Course: Computing and Maths
Year: 2nd
Happy: I am now. First year was full of fucktards who thought computing was learning how to use Excel. Thankfully, they've fallen by the wayside
Prospects: I have a degree already and a job, just looking to retain. Hope it's worth the money

>>21825616
A little Java and Lua (Gmod scripts) but don't worry they bring you up to speed quickly.

I'm a Senior in high school, but I was accepted into the School of Computer Science at Carnegie Mellon University.
U jelly?

>>21825677
>>21825677
Oh right. Many I'm just warming towards Birmingham since I've got a much better chance of getting into there, even though it's still russell group. And the HMV Institute.

Uni: Queen mary college
Course: chemistry Ba Pharm chem Ma
Year: 1st
Happy with course? Yes
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: highly likely.

>>21825775
>Being Senior in HS
>Not actually being in College
Not even jelly

>>21825778
It is a great Uni still. You should enjoy it if you get in. Good luck.

>>21825702
What? It's a picture I took when I went hiking in Derbyshire.

Uni: UCSB
Course: Electrical Engineering
Year: 2nd
Happy with course? Yes
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Pretty high. Recruiters tend to be pretty active at our school when compared with other UCs, it seems.

>>21825778
the hmv institue was the most disappointing place i went to on freshers. It was a frat party (cock fest) but i guess it prob has some decent live music shit also i live 5 mins from hmv institue lol

>>21825767
>>21825767
ah sweet, I'm relatively proficient in VB (don't ask) and was going to look into java this year anyway, maybe some lisp in the summer. Thanks for the /adv/

Does anybody else who frequents /g/ study humanity or liberal arts?

Before you say 'enjoy your no jobs', don't think i am not already aware of that.

>>21825775
Not particularly. Studies have been conducted where the researchers would follow individuals from college all the way down the line in their career and they found that whether you went to an Ivy league or a state college doesn't really impact your career trajectory all that much. Yale-level individuals who went to state colleges still did just as well as other Yale admits.

The conclusion you should take from this is that it doesn't matter where you go. You could go to Harvard and squander your time there and come out with nothing of unique value to show for it. What matters is what you do with yourself once you're there.

The only reason that you less frequently see state college graduates succeeding in life is because *usually* a Yale-level individuals get into Yale and go to Yale (rather than state colleges). Even geniuses are too terrified of this study being wrong to take a chance on their education and save money by going to a shitty school, but if you're not going to the Ivy League, you're not out for the count. And as a corollary, just because you got into CMU doesn't mean you can coast through and magically form contact networks.

Uni: Queensland University of Technology
Course: Information Technology
Year:1st
Happy with course? I don't know.
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Unsure.

>>21825935
And I thought people taking Liberal Arts was just a troll.

>>21825827
Seriously? Damn. I always see it on tour dates for the groups i'm into so the venue doesn't really have that much to do with it.

>>21824950
College: ACC
Course: Nursing
Year: 1st
Happy: I want to die
Prospects: 134% chance of getting a job

Uni: Liverpool Uni
Course: Mathematics (Probability theory)
Year: 1st year of PhD.
Happy with course: yes. they're paying me.
Job prospects: should be just fine. very tempted to just doss around in academia though.

>>21825935

Yep, I have an LLB in law, although history was always my passion. Work now as a statistician doing ERP and stuff.

>>21825935
I'm studying Anthropology, but my plan is to go into law school afterwards. Anthro->Law is a fairly good transition, from the lawyers I've talked to.

I wouldn't bother doing Anthro if the plan was to stop after getting my undergraduate degree. I know it'd be close to worthless.

>>21824950

>Studying CompSci
>Expecting not to be replaced with cheaper,smarter Asians

>2012ish

Enjoy being unemployed OP.

>>21825957
ha ye , its in digbeth the not so nice area of birmingham but its not to bad an area

>>21826035

Do you realise how much computing will never go outside of the M25? Seriously, when the cloud thing was fashionable a couple of years ago, people were looking at Iceland and Norway. However, the lag for a lot of computing is too great if you have the datacentre in Cardiff, let alone abroad.

I know the picture is unrelated, but I've been there.
Dovedale, I've crossed those stepping stones hundreds of times!

I just reapplied to a bunch of Unis, having dropped out of a course at Sheffield Uni that was obviously going to take me nowhere.

Leicester, Brunel, Aberystwyth and Reading have all offered me unconditionals for Comp Sci and Leicester have also offered me a scholarship. Would you really recommend it OP? Did you do an industrial year as well?

>>21826035
You could say that about anything, China is already destroy this countries exports business. My dad works for Rolls - Royce and he say they aren't allowed to take phones with them to China for fear of them stealing fan blade designs and shit.

>>21826093
Didn't do an industrial year and like I said above I think Leicester is great. You have to like small communities though, my entire graduating class is about 60 people and I know most of them.

>>21826189

That sounds great. Were there any modules that really stood out for you (in a good way) in whatever year?

>>21825989
>>21825989
>>21825989
>>21825989
>>21825989
>>21825989
>phd in maths
>liverpool
keep it scouse

>go to anything that isn't Zurich, Cambridge, Oxford, Aaborg or similar
>expect jobs

>>21826217
Leicester has a focus on self determination and project work. This year for example I'm doing a project I conceived on my own (Steganography with media files) and doing all the research/documentation with very little direction from any of the staff.

I also did a fascinating module last year on computational models (automata, Turing machines etc).

Uni: University of Portsmouth
Year: 1st
Happy with course? Yes
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Hopefully, my course has a year in industry

>>21826087

It's a beautiful area, I love the peak district I'd be quite happy settling down here.

>>21826231
>>21826231
trying to make us an hero dude? really?

>>21826341
Ignore the trolls, graduate unemployment is high but you have to put it into perspective; 90% of graduates get jobs within six months. Yes the silver spooned Oxbridge types probably have a leg up on the rest of us but there are plenty of opportunities everywhere.

>>21826392
>get jobs
Is that jobs as in "what they studied for" or is it any job ever?

>>21826408
The surveys don't go that far, but they only consider full-time employment, part-time is omitted.

Uni: University of Western Ontario
Course: Computer Science/Math
Year: 1
Happy with course? Very
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Great, already working with faculty to build rapport for grad school and eventual employment in academia

>>21826440
That's the thing, it means they don't really say anything. I mean if you get a job as a telemarketer after spending 3 or 5 years in uni you really fucked up.

Kind of needs something beyond "90% have jobs eventually". If someone spent any time going to uni I'd bet they wouldn't be satisfied with NEET, even if they don't get a job as X they'll apply for McD and whatnot.

>>21826462
If you want to go into academia, why did you go to Western?

Uni: NS Community College
Course: 4th/3rd Class Power Engineering and Process Operations
Year: 2yo program(graduated)
Happy with course? Yep
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Employed immediately after getting my 3rd class ticket, 22 making 60k after taxes(CAD), plan on going back to college for a new trade as my refinery is closing in 20 years and I could be a ship builder for 40 years, guarantee of work.

>>21825935
Anyone who gets a BA at this point is a fucking chump diluting the employment market making it more hard for those who didnt go to university to get an entry level job.

Uni: Royal Holloway, University of London
Course: Computer Science
Year: 1st
Happy with course? Yeah, more or less
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Idk... Seems likely that I'll get a job. I'll see...

Uni: Université du Québec
Course: Civil engineering
Year: 1st (did a 3-year technician degree before)
Happy with course? Yes
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Certain. The provincial government plans to hire 1000 civil engineers the year that I graduate and that's just 1 employer.

Uni: Salt Lake Community College
Course: Network Systems (IT)
Year: 1-1/2
Happy with course? Yes
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Good enough where I can just get raises in the future

Uni: KTH
Course: High school shit that I don't have for half a year, but going EE after
Year: Starting early Jan
Happy: No idea yet, sure as fuck am happy i got in though as I have a much higher chance of uni now (which was pretty high to begin with as no one wants to be an EE)
Prospects of job: Nothing if I don't get into EE.
If I do get into EE it's impossible to not find a job here, the majority of current ones are going to be seniors soon so there's a lot of demand coming up, and there's a lot of demand now.
I guess EE doesn't seem as fun as Comp Sci? Not sure but the popularity is really down at the bottom

Tech industry is one of the only growing parts of the American economy. I can only imagine its similar in yorup. So you're okay.

Engineer's can always get a job. But don't be surprised if your first job pays little and has you writing html and restarting servers.

>>21826544
>>21826544
fml

>>21826544
I have no problem with paying my dues but I hope I get a job doing something intellectually stimulating.

>>21826544
>engineer
>little pay
Engineers get more starting pay than doctors on average here.
But the doctors end up with more pay than engineers down the line

>be a spic
>be afraid of posting in this thread

>>21826588
From the context I think he meant software engineers.

>>21826607
We're more afraid of you than you are of us. Stop being so fucking good at everything we can't compete.

>>21826616
Which is a fancy name for code monkey

>>21826616
As am I, software and electrical were the stats I've looked at. worth pointing out that this is with a masters degree

Uni: University of copenhagen
Course: Physics
Year: 1st
Happy with course? very
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: So far it seems pretty promising considering the degree, but i still have at least 4 years to complete and possibly a phd, so it's not really a concern of mine at the moment.

Uni: Southampton Solent
Course: Outside Broadcasting Production Operations
Year: Final
Happy with course? Yes
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Hopefully good as there is always need for cameramen.

>>21826639
or wait, do you mean someone who took programming courses or CS majors? Strictly referring to CS

Any Electrical or Computer Engineering students/grads here? How was it? Ease of finding a job? etc.

Uni: University of Chester
Course: Natural Hazard Management and Geography
Year: 2nd
Happy with course? Yes
Prospects: Pretty good. Chester Geography department is most employable in NW, with 80% employment rate.
Chillin'

Uni: nope
Course: N/A
Year: N/A
Prospects of getting job: Already have one that pays $40/h

Degrees are useless.

>>21826638
I personally differentiate programmers from software engineers. Programmers actually write code whilst software engineers design systems. Just what I think though everything in compsci has become so muddled, we're in desperate need of differentiation.

>>21826678
How do I clean jelly off of my monitor?

Uni: University of Otago
Course: Computer Science
Year: 3rd, will stay to do 4th year honors.
Happy with course? No.
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Currently running own porn site, after I don't know.
Pic unrelated.

>>21824950
Uni: University of Ballarat
Course: Bachelor of Information Technology (Computer Games)
Year: 4th (18 months to go)
Happy with course? Mostly
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: HAHAHAHAHA indy games are my only realistic choice to start off with

Pic unrelated

>>21826678
>twice as much as McDonald's
damn!!!

Uni: Queen's Belfast
Course: Aerospace Eng
Year: 4th
Happy with course?: Very
Job prospects: Pretty good

>>21826728

At 19 years old. Plus I own 10% of the startup I'm working for.

>>21826742
It's aight, but in 15 years you'll have less than someone who got a good degree (good, not art) and you won't be able to go anywhere because without a degree you're stuck in that one company.

Still, not like you won't be well off if you keep it up. Just a bit below where you could have been

>>21826757

Not really. Most companies will prefer experience or someone that can show they've can do work, by having references or completed projects for other companies.

I've gotten other job offers than this. All that really matters is that you're good and that you can prove it.

>>21826784
>Most companies will prefer experience or someone that can show they've can do work
That was true 20 years ago, it's not true today and it will be even worse in 10 years. Without a degree HR won't even look twice at you

>>21826802

Where the hell do you live? That's not true at all here (I live in California).

>>21826802
Unfortunately this is true, my dad won't even read further down a CV if it doesn't list a degree.

>>21826726
>Course: Bachelor of Information Technology (Computer Games)

>>21826828
Yurop.
Honestly surprised that's not the case in America (unless you're bullshitting). Figured it would be even worse there as people with degrees have issues getting jobs according to news and the internets

>>21826630
>spics
>good
Latin american here, don't make me laugh.

Merry Christmas Britfags (and everyone else on GMT)!

>>21826831
My dad's up in management as well. He wanted to hire some bachelor engineer to lead a project, guy had like 20 years of experience behind his belt.

But higher up said "Nope, needs masters".

Uni: Trinity College Dublin
Course: Medicine
Year: 1st (took a slightly roundabout route)
Happy with course? very much so
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: pretty much guaranteed but it takes a while to get to the end

pic not technically related

>>21826832
I honestly can't believe people take these programs and think it will lead them somewhere. I'd be just embarassed to tell someone who asked me what I'm studying that I was into "video games".

>>21826844

A lot of people graduate from University while still completely incompetent. Companies will usually hire someone with >3 years experience over a fresh graduate here no matter what. That's why people have trouble getting jobs, especially if they never did any internships or don't have anything to show (personal / past projects or work).

US Education is expensive and worthless.

Uni: University of Kent
Course: Electronic engineering
Year: 1st
Happy with course? Muh, maths is a bit easy
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Lol, we'll see

>>21826891
What kind of jobs are you talking about? An engineer for example wouldn't even be able to get started unless he has a degree because he'll lack the knowledge, ditto for mostly every respectable education.

>>21826882

OH WELL LOOK AT THE FAGGOT IN TRINNERS

DKIT Master Race

Uni: UIUC
Course: General Studies
Year: Still in high school....
Happy with course? No
Job prospects? No idea

I was too dumb to get into computer science so I will have to transfer when i get there

>>21826501
Didn't notice this reply earlier, but it's because I live in the same city and I don't feel like paying $10K/year for housing when I have a perfectly fine university a few minutes away.
I do want to study at UofT after my Bachelor's, though.

Uni: University of Ontario Institute of Technology
Course: Information Technology, Networking and security specialization
Year: 2nd
Happy with course? Yes
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Unsure

>>21826912

In my experience, any kind of software development job.

From all the companies I've seen and most of the people I know that have those kinds of jobs, they value experience and proof of work over degrees.

Unless you want to work as a cubicle code monkey. Those companies don't really care about the quality or skill level of the employees, those are the types that usually look at degrees more than anything.

At least, that's what I've seen here.

>>21826919
>That feel when I wanted to go to Dundalk but they wouldn't let me in

Uni: Open University
Course: Engineering
Year: 1st
Happy with course? Yes
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Pretty good seeing as I already have a job and work within the Engineering sector.

>>21826951
>Unsure employment prospects
>UOIT
nailed that one

>>21825775
No because its way too expensive. I would also be heart broken if something comes up (and something will) and I lost my scholarship and/or racked up fees and was forced to drop out.

>>21826954
Depends who's reading the resumes I guess, HR look for qualifications whereas software engineers value proof of work done and general interest in the field (i.e. working on projects during spare time).

>>21826987
Isn't it always HR that will look at your resume first first in any company larger than tiny?

>>21826987

I suppose that's probably it. The only respectable positions that require degrees in software dev (that I've seen) are shit like research positions that requires PhDs or Masters in computer science. And degree or not you're not even getting close to being hired at those levels unless you're a god.

>>21826994
HR will always screen resumes in large companies but small companies probably can't afford a dedicated HR section.

>>21826802

>HR

Well, there's your problem.

The only time I've had luck when going through HR was when I was applying for something where it was the local team doing all of the recruiting and hiring.

For 99.99% of jobs, HR's goal is to prevent competent people from getting hired, thus keeping themselves employed.

If you want to work somewhere in particular, talk to the people you'd actually be working for. Show that you know what the fuck you're doing, and say that you're willing to work cheap to get your foot in the door.

All that you have to do after that is show up on time and work your ass off, and you'll go far.

>>21826954
>From all the companies I've seen and most of the people I know that have those kinds of jobs, they value experience and proof of work over degrees.

It's because EVERYONE has degrees, its still a requirement. They just don't care about Uni Of Bumfuck vs. Ivy League as nearly as they much as they care about experience vs. no experience.

Uni: Universidad Iberoamericana
Course: Information Technology
Year: 2nd
Happy with course? Yes
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: lol i dunno

>>21826994

HR will only screen candidates for jobs that they've been told to recruit for. If you talk to a manager / project leader and he likes you, he can fast track you through the first couple of rounds of the HR process no sweat.

>>21827025
If you "talk to people and get your foot in the door" it's likely a company small enough for you to not be able to go very far. You don't want to be stuck there or in similarly sized companies when you know you can get higher up in bigger companies with a piece of paper.
Yes there are exceptions to this rule, but you're not making life easier by not having a degree

>Uni: University of Selftaught
>Course: Computer Science with an emphasis in Programming
>Year: 13 (i declared my love for computers and a quest for knowledge ~10 years old)
>Happy with course? Yes
>Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Unsure, economy in the shitter and all.

How's that overwhelming-debt feel?

>>21827051
Project leaders and managers have to get an okay from higher up before they recruit. You'd have to make a ridiculously good case for them to convince higher up that you're fine without a degree

>>21827054
>>21827067


Who said I was talking about people with no degree? Having a degree is valuable because it demonstrates that you are minimally competent and can put up with bullshit to get stuff done.

You're still retarded for going through HR to get a job, though.

>>21827063
My parents paid my way through uni (this was before the fee increase). I am going to pay them back however. I feel much better indebted to my parents.

>>21827063
How's that "trying to get a job with no formal education or training" feel? Welcome to almost 2012.

>>21827063

I really doubt you taught yourself "computer science", you taught yourself how to write programs is more like it, people really throw that word around too much without understanding what it really represents.

Uni: ETH Zürich
Course: Electrical Engineering
Year: 2nd of bachelor
Happy: Yes, very.
Prospects of getting job: >95% regardless of economy.

>going to one of the best universities in the world
>companies fight to get graduates of my course working for them

Uni: University of Gent
Course: Chemistry
Year: 4th (1st year of Masters
Happy with course? Yes (Meh, even after 4 years stil unasure if I had better joined economic science, since I spend more time reading economic related news than science once)
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: like 99.9%
Quite amuzing: in my country is chemistry is 2nd best payed sector after finance, but stil last 2 years (in the fucking economic crysis!) had decline in new students, despite almost free university fees

>Pic unrelated

Uni: University of Halle/Wittenberg (Germany)
Course: Law
Year: 1
Happy with course? Yes, so far.
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: A walk in the park, if i make it through (7 years from now, god damnit!)

>>21827067

>Project leaders and managers have to get an okay from higher up before they recruit.

This is bullshit no matter where you are. If somebody with that title cannot hire whoever the fuck he needs to to get shit done, he's not actually in a leadership/management role. He may need HR to handle all the paperwork and whatnot, but he doesn't need somebody else's permission to spend his budget on whatever the fuck he wants.

/g/, should I pursue in CS major or (Network) Engineering field?

>>21825331
Aerospace engineering? Or just technical proficiency? I am interested in this and am intelligent and well equiped to do it, I'm 20, but don't have much money. :(. Any suggestions to do this?
>thanks in advance!

>>21826230
Just because I'm at Liverpool doesn't mean I'm scouse.
75% of uk students now study at home though.
That, and I am a scouser. =)

Anyone on here have any advice at getting hired at a cool independent company ? I hate the idea of wearing a suit, working UN-acknowledgled in a cubicle, following pointless big bushiness protocol, etc.

I don't mind long hours, less than average pay, etc. To me working on something with people who actually about it deeply and are proud of their work would be an awesome career opportunity for me.

I realize jobs like this just don't fall out of the sky, but would rather work towards a job like that then work up the big business ladder.

>>21827142
English major, cultural studies minor

RPI
Mechanical Engineering
Graduated (in December)
No
Reasonable. Wasn't able to snag an offer on graduation, but intending to search nationwide, and willing/open to most offers

>>21827142
What do you want to do in the future? I don't know what software companies look for but I know that engineering companies prefer students to specialize early.

>>21827178
Small companies take a much bigger risk when hiring so make sure you have a big portfolio and can prove that you will fit in with their little community.

>>21827142

Network Engineering sounds sketchy as a major, maybe minor in it and make sure to land an internship before you graduate ?

>>21827215
Yes, I've gone through a six-month Internship attachment to sponsoring companies for the period of 6 month. Though I'm into networking/cloud computing stuff, but I do tend to dislike programming. I find myself able to comprehend well on language like Java and scripting language, but no so well on VB though. I don't know if I would want to take a C# or C++ class though.

>>21827096
how's trying to get a job with no previous real-world experience feel?
I make a /living/ as a freelance development contractor, I don't need a degree to get jobs, I only need to flash my portfolio around
I also have other sources of income, but that's irrelevant
my point is I'm doing what I want in life, making a living out of it, and not wasting my time or money in school

>>21827123
>This is bullshit no matter where you are.
You clearly don't know anything about anything beyond tiny businesses.

>>21827063
> Debt
You mean how is that free education and £2200 a year grant from the govt? Pretty good. Engineering is boss.

Uni : UNC Charlotte
Course: Software Info Systems (Basically IT)
Year: Graduated back in May of this year
Happy: Now that I'm finally done yes
Prospects of getting job: Haven't yet but it really is a tough time not totally sure what I'm gonna do but I've done some volunteer things with helping setup new refurbed computers for some kids to use at a youth thing which will help my resume as well as help get some job experience.

>>21827307
If you are happy and living without financial burden that's cool, live your life.

But school != a waste of time.

I also realize you worked on some stuff, but that doesn't mean you have the credentials to work on whatever might inspire you / captivate you down the road. I know people who have dropped out of undergraduate to make decent salaries writing iOS apps for "big name" companies... which is hardly where I am hoping my degree can take me.

>>21827358
>using c style does not equal as part of your 4chan vocabulary
>2011

>>21824950
Course: Interactive Media
Year: 1st
Happy with course? No, it's terrible.
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Who knows. I won't get a job from this qualification alone, but combined with my vast practical experience it may amount to a decent CV.

>>21826671
I'm from chester too.

>>21827285

What do you do if you are not programming ? I haven't had any time to study networking, so its really not obvious what kind of things you would do.

>>21827391
>What do you do if you are not programming ?
fap to loli

Uni: University of Oxford
Course: Mathematics and Computer Science
Year: 2nd
Prospects of getting job upon graduation: Probably

>>21826678
>>21826678
>degrees are useless

I think you could have benefited from being force to revisit mathematics. A rate without a time tells me diddly squat about how much you make. Your neighbor paying you to fix her compute can translate into $40/hr

>>21827371
Hi Richard, you fucking cunt.

>>21825809
Not really. UCSB MechE grad here, Career Services doesn't really help much. They offer some workshops and hold job fairs, and that's about it. I don't remember many recruiters at all.