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Just use a free DNS server and you're fine.

Plus it's unlikely to pass.

>>21679898
I think you really miss the point.
It's not so much my access to other sites. It's other's access to my sites. As well as the effect on invasion, creativity and general freedom.
We already have far too much censorship with Youtube taking videos down despite being covered by fair use.
You can't just tell everyone to use OpenDNS and expect the problem to go away.

Solen Svartnar

oh no. now i can't steal asian pedo porn

i'm happy this passed, fucking weaboos

>>21679970
That's true, but think of it as less retards and more nerds on the "free" internet. We might enjoy it.

If it passes.

IF.

>>21680018
But it didn't. The vote is next year.

>>>/b/

>Corporatocracy here we come

1878 called.

>>21680024

This. Essentially, it boots retards off the net and returns it back to the nerds. You know the guys who are the only capable enough to bypass the new shit-tier restricted net.

>>21680041
no it's on Wednesday retard

>>21680068
Didn't they say they've got a vacation till after the holidays?

>>21680093
Resumes on the 21st

It's been halted. For now. Right now though, the government utterly disgusted me. We have people like Watts, who obviously had no fucking idea what he was talking about, and yet happily voted on something that affected millions. Then there is how shameless they were over their "donations". It's sad that you can buy a congressman for 10000 dollars.

>>21680018
Reported for terrorism.
Enjoy your jailtime.

>>21680093
They changed their minds.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111216/11102617108/sopa-markup-runs-out-time-likely-delayed-until
-2012.shtml?r
>Update.... Or not. Despite the fact that Congress was supposed to be out of session until the end of January, the Judiciary Committee has just announced plans to come back to continue the markup this coming Wednesday. This is rather unusual and totally unnecessary. But it shows just how desperate Hollywood is to pass this bill as quickly as possible, before the momentum of opposition builds up even further.

>>21680104
Sad indeed.

I'll just leave this here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Anonymity_Protocol

Land of the free in-fucking-deed.

>>21680068
>>21680093
>>21680102
Its a fucking committee. They are voting to see if the bill is worth congresses time. It still has to go to the house and senate. This committee does not determine if this bill becomes law.

>>21679996
Apokalypsens riddare rider in över natthimlen

>>21680024
"Nerds" can keep to their own parts of the web anyway. This is just going to shit all over everyone.
>>21680018
It isn't pirates who suffer. It will be the start up companies and guys who try to follow the law. (It's like when you ban guns. Only the people who follow the law will give up their gun).
This law is literally just for the big media and medical companies to squash competing businesses.

>>21680124
god dammit I thought they had removed the bill.

so our saviors are going to have to come to bat again next week?

>>21680057
Then the web is 99% less profitable.

>bawww I can't torrent hollywood movies anymore

>>21680164
Seems like it.

>>21680164
Seeing how close this is to the holiday, this will present an interesting opportunity. A congressman can say "fuck your yields" and filibuster.

>>21680178
But I can. Anyone can if they switch DNS.

As ISSA said it:
This is like ripping out the traffic signs so people can't find their way to the drughouse instead of busting the dealers.

It's retarded.

>>21680127

I read about Phantom somewhere but forgot what it was called, so thanks for the reminder.

Any one had this up and running?

>>21680162
Nothing changes for companys in the U.S., I was told in the house, they will have DMCA like they always had.

>>21680127
Again, you're missing the point entirely.

>>21680213
Word.

Have they pointed out for the retards that this shit is easy as fuck to circumvent?
The only way they can stop people from accessing sites is to completely shut off the whole fucking internet in the USA.

>>21680213
They can't bust the dealers abroad. Doing nothing is like letting dealers advertise in local newspapers.

>>21680252
Or put a policeman 24/7 next to every PC.

>>21680266
or blocking IPs as well and have a task force to investigate new proxys, to block them asap and fine violators.

>>21680250
sorry, but how does this *not* solve the problem?

>>21680265
>Marc Emery
>Noriega
>Pablo Escobar
World Police

>>21680265
No it's not.

The internet is not local, it is not physical thing you can hold. Get that into your head.

>>21680313
Google is a U.S. company and the domestic service can be compared with a newspaper -- publishing to domestic subscribers.

>>21680224
They get the right to block sites because they link to other sites with supposedly illegal content on them.
And this isn't even limited to the US. I wouldn't be surprised if they took down Dailymotion just because it's not in the US.
The only thing that would possibly save them is a large legal department. Smaller companies won't have that protection.

>>21680265
The internet is global. A server in Egypt only has to follow Egyptian laws in the same way a newspapers only has to follow Egyptian laws.

>>21680093

They secretly changed the date, I assume the whole 2012 thing was just a way of shutting everyone up.

>>21680378
USA can't outright shut them down, but it can indirectly bleed them to death and restrict access to it.

>piratebay and practically every other tracker is located outside the USA
so how does this hurt again?

>>21680435
this is exactly why they try to pass this Bill.

>>21680444
...to block foreign sites

>>21680435
ISPs will block access to them. essentially US is becoming China.

>>21680104
Really? Even I have $10,000. Are there special channels you need to go through to buy a congressman? Every vote helps, right?

>>21680475

>proxies

Yep, solved.

>>21680293
See:
>>21679970
And watch:
http://youtu.be/JhwuXNv8fJM

This isn't just about sharing music. It's about big business trying to control the web. They are getting the power to kill off anything they don't like. This makes the little man almost powerless to defend himself on what is the last corner of freedom.

All you seem to suggest is ways to get around the filter. You ignore the actual problem which is that they are censoring the internet.
Once a site is blocked it won't be profitable for them to run any more. So it won't even be worth changing DNS.
They are penalising legitimate businesses and law abiding citizens in their pursuit to stop crime.

>>21680475
>>21680459
>>21680444
so this only affects murrikkka?

>>21680528
>implying sharing files is a crime

>>21680331
Google operates all over the world, you can't ban them from lettings others use their service too. They pulled out of Mainland China because of censorship, yet Google's homeland is trying to pull the same bullshit.

>Implying they'll stop with SOPA

Eventually they might even end up blocking all encryption that's not whitelisted.

>>21680533

No, it revokes the DNS entry and all the core DNS servers will be all "lolzonetransfer" and nobody in the world will be able to access the site. There was a proposed amendment that would ensure the sites are only down for US citizens, but it was rejected. The US is pretty much saying "because other countries won't support antipiracy laws, we will do it for them"

>>21680421
The US can't do that to an Egyptian newspaper, but they will be able to an Egyptian site. Which is why this pisses me off so much.
It is the US police state trying to extend its grip to other countries.

>>21680563
>They pulled out of Mainland China because of censorship
if that's the case, then why did they censor for many years until their security was breached?

>>21680576
I don't live in the USA, and my ISP has it's own DNS server. How exactly will their DNS server ever be affected by this bill?

>>21680546
Yes it is. Whether you agree or not (, I don't). It is still a crime to share copyrighted files.

>>21680630
MAYBE IN YOUR JEWISH COUNTRY BUT NOT IN GLORIOUS RUSSIA

You guys are going to have to learn to enjoy Slavic goods.

>>21680178
You know that the patent for Viagra is going to expire soon? You know that the big pharmas have stated that they'll abuse this law as much as possible? They'll use SOPA to bring down any site that sells generic Viagra, and then just use their money to hold off the lawsuits until the smaller sites run out of money. Then there will be the large websites who will be blackmailed into paying a certain fee every year, or get taken down because of some infringing content posted years ago.

>>21680604
Because it was still pretty profitable. But after a while they just got pissed of and moved to Hong Kong. The email hacking was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

>>21680659

>Slavic goods

I read that at first as “Slavonic Gods.”

>>21680659
where is /k/ right now....
SLAV SHIT

>>21680475
>>21680497
I use DDL sites a lot for certain stuff, which typically wrangle thousands of rented IPs behind a few domain names. If IPs hosting a file I want are put on the ISP banlists, I can't necessarily just access the file via a proxy. What can I do to get around that? Do I have to set up a foreign server just to download files with rapidshare or mediafire?

i dont see how it is acceptable to police other countries internets as well.

>>21680669
I guess Chinese aren't able to access Google.com.hk, though? They will have to use ICP'd Baidu, or whatever they use.

>>21680679
Slav shit is good shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He6C5FxsM10

>>21680656
Are you paying attention to this at all?
They are extending US law to every site. Russia can have their sites blocked by the US for breaking US copyright law.

This is why it is so fucking bad for everyone.

haha oh wow
I was banned for 2 days because mods don't like me supporting SOPA (and I didn't even know I was banned -- I was off living a luxury life)

if SOPA doesn't pass, we'll get data caps like canada.

>>21680630

Not in Switzerland

It'll pass, too, like the DMCA before it.

>>21680698
That's going to piss off both Russians AND Chinese. It's bad enough (for the USA) that they're both trying to form their own international currency, but when they get their own ICANN alternative formed...
>>21680712
HELP US STOP INTERNET CENSORSHIP... OR ELSE!
>>21680727
We already have data caps.

>>21680731
see
>>21680698
It effects the Swiss and their glorious sensible laws too.

>>21680740
I don't want to see stupid shit that just goes into Reddit, lolcats, and encyclopediadramatica

>>21680750
>mfw many swiss still use limewire and don't give a fuck about SOPA

>>21680753
Okay.

>>21680740
I doubt a BRIC ICANN would be any better.
We need to just move ICANN to Switzerland or Belgium where we keep all our other free organisations.

>>21680698
but how can the us affect other countries
not like they own the internet

>>21680764
Again. This isn't just about piracy. I'm worried for the legitimate business that will be affected.

>>21680607
If the authoritative DNS for a Japanese site you want to see happens to be in the US, like 2ch's are for instance, then you wouldn't be able to get new domain records for the site until the owner registers with a new DNS, and possibly publishes it to the site's users via a backup location. This shit is going to be a hassle for a lot of us all over the world to get around, and not everyone will bother.

>>21680815
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_root_zone

>>21680797
Belgium is part of the EU though. Maybe we should just host in in Ukraine, like demonoid.me

>>21680740

>but when they get their own ICANN alternative formed...

Well that would certainly help, an alternative DNS root not controlled by the US.

If the US is gonna block by IP address not just DNS then I guess the rest of the world will just have to cope with out the US isolationists. Bad thing for the rest of the world?

>>21680824
File a dispute and get your site back or stop running a pirate site.

The solutions are this:
A) People get so angry and pissed off about the services they use that get cut off because of SOPA that they take action to reverse the bill
B) All legitimate companies and websites that have a moral opposition to SOPA move all their servers out of the US and change to non US-Owned domains. The American eceonomy fails further so hard that they realise they miss money and realise the bill was stupid and drop it.

What I love about this bill is how fucking out of nowhere it came from.

For the past few years we have been dealing with the war issue as well as the fucking recession that is STILL fucking us over ..well I'm speaking as a US citizen.

Instead of dealing with that shit we get this fucking bill for no fucking reason...fuck.

As a US citizen on behalf of my family and I (I dont want to say everyone because everyone has their own opinion) I want to say right now that I am sorry my government is run by a bunch of autistic jackasses that are fucking up everything for everyone.

>totalhalibut

stopped watching there

>>21680850
The EU is pretty sensible when it comes to these things. The Ukraine is impoverished and completely untrustworthy.
Switzerland is usually the best bet.

>>21680815
the US owns ICANN, which basically controls the Internet.
the US also owns the biggest banks in the world as well as ad services, which finances basically all big websites.
you could say that the US owns the Internet.

>>21680894
I can't help but feel bad for Ukraine. That place had the potential to be the greatest nation on Earth but the fucking commie red bastards fucked it over with forced famine and general abuse.

>>21680889
Google could do B all on their own with little effort. They already maintain a free DNS. They'd just have to move whatever files and machines they needed to their non-US installations and rent their use to a new non-US company they form. I hope they do that.

>>21680868
I would rather they didn't take it down in the first place.
If I run a site making £2,000 a day, this site then has content uploaded which is copyrighted and the internet police shut the site down for 60 days before I can get it back I would have lost £120,000. Even though I'm not American.
And don't act like they can't do it. They take down videos on Youtube without warning you.