that would be sooo slow

i prefer fiber-optic lines

slow as in latency or as in speeds?

If they utilized the empty VHF and UHF bands from broadcast tv. They could get around 20 mb/s. Which is higher than the average here now.

meshtard

>>>/r/darknetplan

dead and late packets galore, its like suggesting we save the post office by passing our mail to the end of the street

not only slow, but silly, you are directly getting mac addresses, yeah someone gets into your shit easily.

Are you seriously fucking kidding? You'd have to have 12 billion fucking hops to get to another country. It's an awful idea.

yeah there's no way in hell this would ever catch on. most of the people in my neighborhood don't even know what a wireless router is.

That graph is the biggest load of shit I've seen today.

>O cool! I'm so going to put this on Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, Myspace, Redditt, Google
OH WAIT THEY'RE ALL OWNED BY FUCKING CORPORATIONS

>>21487323
>>21487332
It's the reddit kids, they want to start some "darknet". reddit is down today and they're flooding this place

It'd be a pain in the ass to get something like that to scale up to an area of a few blocks, scaling it to global scale is not going to happen.

>becoming the core router for your town
>good idea

Yeh, you might think it's a fantastic idea to push a shitload of traffic through one dodgy old Zyxel router, but it's really not.

If it can operate without AT&T and the government, why does that image still depict them in the mesh network?

>this is FREE Internet

/meshnet/ - pipedreams

>Meshnet catches on
>nobody authenticates using RADIUS servers
>unlimited albeit shitty internet for free

the only time i've ever been to reddit was to tell that subreddit that they are wasting their time building new infrastructure.

Trying to rebuild the infrastructure is a waste of time and will never happen. I2P for life.

>>21487400

Because someone had their head pretty far up their ass when they made it.

They should make a "virus" for iPhones that uses the 3G capability of the iPhone 3 and 4S models to spread the meshnet.
Because if the internet was wherever 2 cellphones were within x metres of each other, shit would be pretty cash.

>>21487485

Not to mention, unstable, slow and insecure.

>>21487234

So where is this software that "already exists"? I'd love to take a look at their code.

>>21487503
it doesn't exist

My friends and I are going to knock on people's doors and explain them about mesh net, offering them to set it up directly and cost-free. We'll even film it. I hope it'll hit the news.

>>21487498

of fucking course. But in a city like New York where there are 350000 cellphones to the square kilometre it would work amazingly

>>21487549
back to reddit with you

>>21487577

what does a logical idea have to do with reddit?
I don't even go on reddit.

>>21487689
A logical idea has nothing to do with reddit. That's why he sent you there.

If you have decent amount of people connected to the internet by normal means(fiber), it would work. But you need good routers that will be able to handle the traffic and prioritize packets and give them the optimum route.

>>21487722
Not to mention people willing to use up huge amounts of hard drive space to copy over websites from the actual Internet or else someone will still be footing the bill to connect to them.

>>21487722

>implying people's shitty fucking thomson routers can handle modern routing algorithms.

>>21487503

I think they're just talking about algorithms such as OSPF and BGP.

>>21487806
Fuck you i have zyxel ;_;
Had 3 thomsons before this and they all crippled under my torrent traffic.
the zyxel doesn't even budge

>>21487234
This is a good idea but implementing it would be somewhat fraught with difficulties

>>21487722
implying anyone who pays for internet will be willing to let niggers take up their bandwith

no this is a fucking stupid idea most n routers only support up to 300Mbps at CLOSE range 100 feet out u might get 30Mbps so 1000s of people going through your 30Mbps line yeah sounds like a great idea.

Also if this where somehow to work hello security flaws. you think its annoying that the NSA can grab your emails try every single person on the internet.

>>21487858
>good idea
LOLOLOLOL great joke.
it is a waste of resources. it is like trying to remake the power grid because you want to use renewable energies.

Oh god this is the mesh network that Reddit wants to make. I went into their IRC and it was basically a shitton of 15 year old's talking about how they're going to make an 802.11 adhoc mesh network. Reading what they're trying to do is physically painful to me.

We talked about something like this on /g/ long before the shitfest on reddit broke out over SOPA/PIPA.

It was in a Raspberry Pi thread if I remember right. The idea was to setup a bunch of RasPi's in populated areas that could broadcast like a router. You could save content locally on them as su, and have limited write access for the public. Users could string RasPi's together to host a large amount of data.

Alas, it is only a sophisticated form of cementing usb sticks into the sides of buildings, but it was kind of a neat idea. I think someone called it the GDN (GNU Distributed Network)

>>21487906
It;s really not, it's more akin to having your own solar panels so that you don't get raped for electricity prices

>>21487906
>mfw Reddit wants it both

>mfw nobody following that infographic understands ad-hoc routing.

>>21487928
Except for the fact if you share that electricity your still using the power companies network.

>>21487928
Which means you will have to give back the excess to the grid, which means prices will rise for everyone else.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/carbon-plan/rooftop-solar-panels-overloading-electr
icity-grid/story-fn99tjf2-1226165360822

>>21487960
Yes, you can sell it to them instead of the other way around.
Locally there's no reason why you couldn't share it with your neighbor for nothing if you wanted to

this graphic is claimed and nothing is explained about it. also note how, according to the author, the government has no internet today -- but it should have? >>21487234

>>21488007
Government owned infrastructure is just a dream and unnecessary in most countries.

>>21488004
>you will have to give back the excess to the grid
Who says so, if they are your private property you do as you please
You could give it to a neighbor who had less panels to charge his battery bank

>>21488052

>>21488064
True, but would you be willing to spend thousands more for an infrastructure that will be poorly maintained and already exists anyway? And batteries are a really bad idea. Maybe a hydrogen generator instead would be better.

>>21488052

>Government owned infrastructure is just a dream and unnecessary in most countries.

Lol, where it's publicly owned it's better than privately owned.

>>21488064
I was trying to make this example somehow relate to this dumb ass plan but it is a horrible example and has nothing to do with sharing internet. yes you do not have to give power back to the power company but would you rather give the power to your neighbor for free or sell it back for guaranteed money?

>>21488125
*for guaranteed credit [fixed]

>>21488064

That's not how it works, in Australia anyway - you're still connected to the grid, your usage is just weighed against how much you've put in - if you generate more than you use they actually pay you lol

>go to sites like ... reddit ... and find the software

Thanks for the
a) reliable source
b) handy link
c) making my life easier

The whole damn thing will fail because loladhocrouting.

>>21488433
It will fail because they never reach the critical mass and even if, all they do is browsing reddit and facebook

>>21487234
Thanks for the good laugh op :D

I live in America.

America has a lot of empty space.

This will never work.