>>21444609
>telling everyone to wait until Ivy Bridge to build a new system
Who does that?

Shut up.

>intel

Posting in a mod thread.

Additionally, >>21444079, do your job.

> 2011
> Trying to moderate /g/

I seriously hope only faggots doe this.

>>21444623
Trolls

>exactly the same processor in terms of everything on a more efficient architecture
why would you not? you use less power for a slightly higher amount of performance.

>>21444645
>reducted
>ponyfag

>>21444645
IB also supports PCIe 3.0, not that there are any PCIe 3 video cards out to take advantage of it, but it is a selling point.

Oh yeah because haswell is so close to release.

i cant wait for ivy bridge macbook pros!

>>21444655
>but it is a selling point
>buying something for something that doesn't exit
>selling point

>>21444661
Qe 2013

~$2000 each.

>>21444671
It will likely spur manufacturers on to making PCIE3 GPUs.

>>21444609
How about you shut the fuck up and try moderating as your job description asks you to do. The fact that you posted this as a mod just shows you're just some attention craving jackass since you just got dumped or something, but keep it to yourself, you're killing /g/ when you do shit like this.

posting in a mod thread

>>21444686
> All dat butthurt

You made my morning anon.

>buyers remorse
>not waiting for ivy and having the best for the next 3 years

also
>tomshardware

>>21444079
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>>21444079

404 that shit and ban the trolls.

>>21444685
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KLVwRrCR3g

Ivy Bridge is going to be a big leap forward in laptops;
-Lower power consumption
-Dem intel 4000 graphics.

As a side note, Apple laptops are only going to get more popular with the arrival of Ivy Bridge. I wonder how /g/ will respond.

>>21444671
>your opinion is not mine, therefore it is wrong.

>>21444646

Intel improving performance per watt is cool.

But I've seen people on /g/ telling everyone that is currently building systems to wait for Ivy Bridge, which is dumb.

>>21444700
Thank you so much.

Mode now do == gods.

gonna be a huge jump with my first gen i5 750 that I dont remember the architecture of

EVERYTHING IS FINISHED!

>>21444713
Thanks, I'm quite enjoying it.

Reminds me of New Vegas.

>>21444723
I don't think I've seen any of that. Mostly just wait for 7xxx series since that announcement is today.

>>21444723
and you can run shit from on a shitty $100 x4 which negligible difference from a $300 2600k, but that doesn't fucking mean people should buy a shitty amd instead

>>21444723
Might as well wait for Bulldozer II

>>21444723
Shut up nerd, you don't know SHIT about /g/.

>>21444731
Arrandale or Wolfdale.

I'd quite like to live in a place called Wolfdale.

>>21444723
Well, why not.
Hard drive prices are going to go down as well.

Right now is not the best time to buy computers.

>>21444776
Angered?

>>21444763
Four billion transistors and 10 cores.

Then again by that time parallelization may have become good enough to utilize the fabled 'moar coars'.

>>21444801
Its not about parallelization, its more about buldozer beeing netburst 2.0

Oh 4th silicon revison is comming.

>404'd shitpost threads
>MLP posts getting deleted

Tres bien mod.

>>21444759
>negligible difference
Im pretty sure thats a great reason.

>>21444728
A lot of things keeping people from buying Apple laptops is the fact that to buy one with a dedicated graphics card, you have to go for the 15" Pro, which is whatthefuck expensive.

If Intel make Intel 4000 graphics good enough (which it looks so), it will reduce the amount of people who actually desire a dedicated graphics card. So while people may not want to spend the whatthefuck amount on a 15" Pro, they might buy a baseline MBA or MBP instead.

Its only speculation, but I think its a likely situation. There are also rumours that Apple will get their hands on the processors first, and sell them before any other company does. Whether this is true or not, I don't know.

I think 17% better at the same clock speed is rather good. I don't know for certain, but these chips should overclock even higher than sandy bridge, and that to me makes it worth the wait.

itt: amdfags still in denial.

>>21444818
I suppose.

I just hope AMD manages to keep Intel from becoming lazy.

>>21444609
>telling everyone to wait until Ivy Bridge to build a new system when performance is only 7-15% better than Sandy Bridge
Not /g/'s style.

>thinking because you're a mod what you say is right

In before nazi 2011 4chan bans me!

>Not waiting for superior Ivy Bridge with 20% more performance and 77W TDP which is significantly less power consumption than 95W Sandy Bridge

MOD, U MAD?

You'd think mods would have more important things to do than minor pet peeves.

>>21444820
Indeed

Gaymen faggots can do what they want.
I'll probably wait for Ivy Bridge and then get something like an i3 that uses less power than my current E8400.

Slim chance of me having the money for a new system, though, so hopefully my E8400+9600GT combo will last another 4 years.

Oh god. Mods in /g/. What is going on? Did Wafflecocks kill someone? Did he escape his bubble?

>>21444763
>mfw I waited

>>21444827
there are many more competitors that could come in in case AMD fails to improve

most notable being the Chinese Loongson

>>21444851
Hows that working out for you? Get decent performance?

hey mod, why is the link to the minit firefox add-on banned
it's a simple hack for tab scrolling and docshell control

>>21444857
Dude everyone knew it was gonna be shit.

>>21444839
Not to mention its pretty much guaranteed that every chip will hit 5ghz easily, blowing away sb even further.

5.5 will be the 4ghz mark for ivy, and 6ghz is possible with a wc setup.

>>21444863
Indeed, MIPS is looking good in the future.

>>21444609
I will wait for Ivy Bridge, updating from an E8400.

I'll have money by then and Ivy Bridge should have somewhat better price-to-performance and even if it's the same, it's nice with lower power consumption.

>Waiting for AMD

>>21444873
I heard they want to roll out chips that are 5ghz rock solid.

>>21444723
It's not dumb if you have an 1156 or 1366 socket based system. In fact it would be stupid not to wait. Hell I would probably not even update if I had a core 2 quad.
If you're building a brand new system and haven't recently upgraded yeah sure, buy now. I'd still rather wait for 6 months to get the cpus that will run cooler and more efficiently. (Especially for laptops).

>>21444864
Yup, everything I run run well.
Even GTA IV.

Every game seems to be made for consoles these days anyway.
My only console is an N64.

I'll probably get the new Wii when it comes out. Seems like fun.

>AMD

>>21444903
>not a sticky

Build a new rig now, wait until Haswell or Broadwell to build the next one.

>>21444903
>implying sticky

>>21444902
What res do you play in. And I know you dont need that great of a gpu. I use a 6870 and max just about everything. Of course I play in 1600x900 so that helps.

I am waiting for Ivy Bridge, updating from a Q6600. May even wait for Haswell.

>>21444908
Wait so why is the mod posting with his status on?
Might as well just be a tripfag for all the good posting as a mod does on /g/.

>>21444920
*What res do you play in?

>>21444899

This is reasonable.

I was recently upgrading from E8400 and posted here about it and at least 5 people said to wait for Sandy Bridge.

>>21444925
800x600

Even mods use retarded /sp/ memes.

Fuck this site and its shit userbase.

So do you guys think I should upgrade? I have a 955be overclocked to 3.8ghz. Was thinking of picking this up in a year or two. Would you say its worth it?

>>21444923
I have an OC'd Q6600 as well and I don't see any reason to upgrade.

No game has really brought it to it's knees yet.
Best CPU I ever owned.

>>21444937
Non troll answer. If you arent I am sorry. You should pick up any other card.

>>21444911
>Intel showed a **working Haswell chip** at the 2011 Intel Developers Forum
>won't release until late 2013

whats the point in getting a new cpu if all you can do with it is get virii?

>>21444609
Has Ivy Bridge got less DRM and backdoor-mechanisms, or more of them than Sandy Bridge?

>>21444920
1920x1080

I've got two monitors, so I just turn off the secondary one when I play games in fullscreen.

I have a feeling that I won't be needing more performance than what my setup currently offers.
Dunno about Heroes of Might & Magic 6 and system requirements, though.
I guess I'll look up what it requires when I look into a new build. It'll probably run on my current build unless it's a lot different from the older games.
5 ran alright as far as I remember, but it wasn't that great.

>>21444949
Maybe you should leave.

http://forums.miniclip.com/

Here's a place that might like you.

look at the power of that HD 4000!!
3 times faster than the previous generation!

>yfw they compare it against a HD 2000

>anandtech

>>21444926

I just upgraded from my E8400 after seeing that $150 i5 2500+ $60 off LGA 1155 motherboard deal at microcenter. No way in hell can ivy bridge top this for price/performance.

But I am postponing my laptop purchase until mobile ivy bridge CPU comes out.

>>21444899
>Hell I would probably not even update if I had a core 2

My situation.
I still have a Core 2 Duo E6750 (2,6ghz stock), i simply overclocked it to 3,3ghz and the system still runs butter smooth, even recent games run fine at 1920x1080 on medium details.
Fact is, when Windows 8 will come out upgrading from an old pc will lose meaning if you aren't an hardcore gamer or a PI maniac, most PCs still run fine for standard stuff like browsing the web while doing 3-4 things in background.

>>21444979
2600(non K) only has HD Graphics 2000, of course they're gonna compare it to the 3770(non K)'s HD Graphics 4000, hurr durr.

>>21444951
Anyone?

this mod doesn't know shit. Ivy Bridge will become the standard, and Sandy Bridge will be obsolete the day it comes out.

wait for it if you can stand not spending all of your mommies money this Christmas.

>>21445004
Ask again in a year or two

>>21444979
What does Anandtech have to do with that graph?

>>21445000
>implying they shouldn't compare against the HD 3000 to show the advancements
>>21445019
>implying anandtech isn't known to for subtle intel marketing

Considering you're getting an extra 17% more CPU performance on top of the same price you'd pay for a Sandy Bridge CPU, Ivy Bridge is looking good. And it's a LGA 1155 CPU, so it won't be overpriced like LGA 2011 SBE parts.

if it's the same price as SB then waiting is ok

That feel when you can't afford either.

Also hello invisibro how are you

Kinda unrelated but when I started surfing /g/ everything everyone would talk about would be
>ENJOY YOUR SANDY VAG
>WHO CARES THAT YOU CAN HIT 5GHz WITH STOCK EVERY SINGLE TIME
And I even saw some picture that talked about how sandy bridge would OC to 5GHz easily.
What happened?

>>21445052
so will my SB mobo be compatible?

>>21445046
Anandtech had nothing to do with that graph. It's from Intel.

Stop being a god damn retard.

>>21445061
>listening to /g/
>ever

>>21445061
>MAD AMD FAGS

well figures, after buldozer fail this place lost lots of trolls, good ridance

>>21445068
You have to update the BIOS to the latest version in 2012 for Ivy Bridge support, but yeah, it is backwards compatible with SB mobos.

>>21445061
SB can do 5GHz though it's just not easy.

>>21445068

Yes, with a firmware upgrade at the release of the ivy bridge CPU, Z68 and P67 chipset motherboards are compatible with ivy bridge CPUs.

>>21444899
>it's not dumb if you have an 1156 or 1366 socket based system
I thought those sockets were dead

always_do_the_opposite_of_what_/g/_says.jpg

>>21445099
Well from the way /g/ talked when I first came here it seemed that it was the standard.
That was when the chips just came out.

>>21445121
So I should buy buldozer then ?

LGA 1156 and 1366 sockets are dead ends, they are stuck with outdated 45nm Lynnfield CPUs(1156) or 45nm Nehalem or 32nm Gulftown(Westmere)(1366) CPUs.

>>21445131
lol you are killing me

>>21445129

Unless /g/ posts screenshots, you'll do better to read some overclocking articles to get a general idea of what SB can do with various mobos.

/g/ overclocking e-stats are like /fit/ lifting e-stats.. pretty inflated.

>>21444899
The point is there no upgrade that give you a great performance increase. Also 1155 was dead from birth. If I want to I could upgrade an i7 970 for 500 bucks. That's basically the same a 980x minus the unlocked multiplier.
That cpu would blow any 1155 socket chip out of the water. 2011 socket has a limited range of cpus and is only targeted at the high end so it also is a real dead socket. The next major release for intel will be ivy bridge and this why people are saying to not upgrade yet.

>that feel when you weren't going to wait for Bulldozer a year ago
HA
YOU SAID I SHOULD HAVE
FUCK THAT
Besides, I think Ivy is mostly a die shrink and an APU upgrade.

>>21445177

>1155
>dead from birth
>ivy bridge which is being released years later is still a LGA 1155 cpu.

>>21445176
My point was that when the chip came out, /g/ was talking about it like if 5GHz was the standard.
Now people talk about reaching 4.5GHz if they're lucky.
I was wondering what happened, did the later batches have lower OC abilities?

>>21445177
i7 970 has worse performance in games and most other applications compared to the 2600k.

It only does slightly better in well multi-threaded stuff like encoding.

Also SB has a lot better IPC.

>>21445219

There are chips with "buggy" cores that won't go past certain frequency no matter how awesome your cooling system might be.

I'm just gonna get an i3 2100 till Ivy comes out then swap it out.

>>21445238
So the OC ability of the chip has been the same since launch, but there are some 'buggy' ones that have trouble?

Hey modfag
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>>21444995

Do your job

>>21445267

No, like all the other CPUs, it depends on your luck. If you got a good chip, you can OC higher than the bad chips.

But you can still push the bad chips higher with better cooling, with the bugged cores, this too becomes impossible.

>>21445287
I understand that it comes down to luck, but the 'average' to call it like that, hasn't gone down with time right?

>>21445315

Nope, if anything, it should improve as yield get better.

Wait for ivy bridge? You should wait for HD's to start production again until your make your next build.

>>21444995

>Too stupid to realise that 15% is a significant amount

Ladies and gentlemen, 4chan moderators

I'll probably be upgrading my e6750 soon. I figure even if I do, if I really need to I can upgrade to Ivy, it's the same socket after all.

>>21445370

15% at best.

The jump to SB was greater.

>>21445407
That's because Ivy Bridge is a die shrink.

Learn to intel tick/tock

Mod confirmed for new faggot who doesn't know shit about technology

>>21445219

With the obvious exception of variance between batches of chips:

Some /g/ users shit on people when they post builds with what those users consider to be expnsive motherboards.

Turns out decent mobos are pretty imperative if you want to OC. That isnt to say that you have to break the bank, but a "value" motherboard is generally less likely to get good OCs.

>>21445338
>>21445426
Thanks, I believe my question has been answered.

>>21445426
Why is this still here?

>>21444995

>>21445426

Also a value motherboard tend to have shittier voltage regulator modules.

>>21445425

I know that. I'm saying that the improvement IS rather insignificant compared to a architecture change.

Nevermind, thanks, mod.

>not waiting for native USB 3.0 and PCIe 3.0

Ivy Bridge will be the last major x86 platform before ARM takes over, it's worth waiting for.

>>21445354
It's gone!

Thank you so much mod!

Asus is bragging about their more expensive (~$200) boards already having PCI-E 3.0 support and Ivy Bridge support with a BIOS update. I might update to one of those, I'm tired of building systems with shitty cheap microATX boards and having shit go wrong or not having options in the BIOS that the higher models have.

>2011
>being a mod
>shitposting on /g/

>>21445464
That thumbnail is, indeed, misleading.

>>21445464
>not dead dogs

FUCK

>>21445475
Isn't there a $130 with PCI-e 3 that's pretty good?

Why the fuck did you post as mod?

>>21445481
>>21445486
Same thought.

>>21445491
Maximum attention whoring. Makes tripfags look like normal people.

If an anon made this thread it's already be on page 15.

>>21445506
>Makes tripfags look like normal people.

D'aww. :3 I love you, too.

>>21445489
No idea, I just saw the ad on Newegg today and it linked 3 different models, all close to $200. There might be cheaper ones but they sure aren't advertising them (jews).

>>21445506

>Actual thread about technology on page 0

Me: 1
Haters: 0

>>21445506
At least he's 404ing the My Little Pony threads.

Wasn't doing that sure, nope.
Additionally, if you're the same guy that made the thread asking which cell phone he should buy a couple months ago, stop being an asshole.

>>21445514
>thinks /g/ is for technology

Oh silly mod, how little you know.

>>21445524
Requesting ability to punch this guy over TCP/IP

Fuck Ivy Bridge...my 3930k will keep on trucking for years to come.

>>21445533
lol nerd

Say that to my face fucker not online then see what happens

>>21445514
>he didnt read the T&C and EULA
Report submitted! This window will close in 5 seconds...

E6700 here. Waiting for hasswell.

No need to upgrade yet, it's kind of sad that I don't see a reason to upgrade. I've upgraded every 3 years now.

Now I'm on this for like 5 years, going to be 6.

I only got my 8800 GTS to 460 and i can run everything on high. Even BF3...

So sad consoles are killing us.

>>21445514
Don't worry I still like you.

>>21445512
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

>>21445542

>>21445514
>Thread about technology
>Thread full of modjerking, modhating, irrelevant information, WAITFORBULLDOZER and false information.

>>21445514
There's maybe 2 threads which aren't technology on page 0

>>21445539
So tempted to get the 3930k but I'm waiting for the 3820 to release to see its price point and performance/OC capability.

>>21445489
Yes, but it is a pretty stupid idea to buy a motherboard now because it has PCIe 30, because Sandy Bridge does not support it.
You HAVE to have an Ivy Bridge CPU in order to use the benefits of PCIe 3.0.

Anyway, most people should have known that Ivy Bridge would just be a die shrink and some minor improvements.

I predicted ~20% increase because of higher stock frequency, minor improvements here and there, lower leakage and so on.
But yeah, waiting for Ivy Bridge is stupid if you're planning on upgrading your computer.

The only real benefit is that the new transistors might increase overclocking capabilities (5GHz with hyper 212+?).
I don't think most people care about power consumption on desktops and the integrated graphics are basically only good for QuickSync.

>>21445547
>Reporting
This is /g/, this thread will probably get stickied for 3 days.

HELLO PLS GIVE MY MY MASK BACK!!

What reasons do you people have to go for anything if you have a decent Core 2 Quad or Duo?

No games require i5... games became stuck in 2006 with all the shitty consoles ruining graphics.

>>21445554
Yes, I've been looking for that forever, I'll be sure to post it in all Viper threads.

>>21445579
lol

I'll just wait a year or 2 and see what the best to see which one is the best one to upgrade with.
I just upgraded like 6 months ago mobo/ram, upgraded the cpu and gfx about year ago.
So I'm good for another 2 years of titles IMHO.

>>21445581
I guess you haven't actually played any recent 2011 games huh?

An example that comes to mind right now is saint's row 3, my friend was playing in on a core2 with a 560Ti and it ran like shit. Upgraded to a 2500k and now it's a solid 60FPS. Core2 chips ARE bottlenecking decent GPUs already and it'll only get worse next year.

>>21445584
want this too ?

>>21445626
Yes!

Thank you!

>>21445608
>Core2 chips ARE bottlenecking decent GPUs already and it'll only get worse next year.
That depends on the game really.

Not sure about Saints Row 3 but a lot of crappy console ports use a lot more CPU power than the actually need.

>>21445554
>>21445626
I'm always wary of these. When the original Viper first posted I was the guy who always told everyone to take it easy and that he was obviously being tongue-in-cheek. However I don't believe someone like that could be a 12-year-old kid.

>>21445567
I'm pretty sure the 3820 has a locked multiplier.
>>21445571
Sandy Bridge-E has PCI-E 3.0 as well....no USB 3.0 but who knows if that will even last when Intel will apparently be pushing Light Peak soon.

>>21445650
Well he stoped posting after people started to use them and he leaked out his trip.

Fun times, I sometimes miss him.

>>21445659
It does have some new bclk divider thing though that allows some overclocking if you have good ram that allows it.

>>21445663
d'aww, so the viper threads today are fake?

That's a damn shame.

>>21445608
This.

I get a lot of stutter in Skyrim with my e6750 and GTX460, but that could just be shitty coding by Bethesda. I also can't handle Dolphin at higher settings or bsnes (x64, 32 runs fine for whatever reason). When I'm playing back 10bit video mpchc is a little laggy sometimes, especially when changing to full screen or switching audio streams; I have actually had to kill the process several times lately.

>>21445677
His tripcode was ##hack or something so a lot of people impersonated him. He's like the marshviperX of 2011 /g/.

>>21445659
>Sandy Bridge-E has PCI-E 3.0 as well....no USB 3.0 but who knows if that will even last when Intel will apparently be pushing Light Peak soon.
Oh I didn't know Sandy Bridge-E supported it but it seems like you're right.

>Intel increased bandwidth on the other side of the chip as well. A single SNB-E CPU features 40 PCIe lanes that are compliant with rev 3.0 of the PCI Express Base Specification (aka PCIe 3.0). With no PCIe 3.0 GPUs available (yet) to test and validate the interface, Intel lists PCIe 3.0 support in the chip's datasheet but is publicly guaranteeing PCIe 2.0 speeds. Intel does add that some PCIe devices may be able to operate at Gen 3 speeds, but we'll have to wait and see once those devices hit the market.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5091/intel-core-i7-3960x-sandy-bridge-e-review-keeping-the-high-end-al
ive/2

>Games
>Games
>Games

What are you? 12?

>>21445677
Viper fucked up with posting and leaked his tripcode.

Fun times, i say past 2 months all viper threads are fake. But he was SO pissed when people used his trip.

I hope that brat pulled an hero.

>implying this isn't obvious trollbait

>>21445683
It's ##crack.

Go forth and spread the Viper.

Also, gentoo.me

Testing out the hack tripcode

>>21445692
The average gamer of >2011 is in his mid thirties.

>>21445693
Lol
>>21445702
Gentoo.me is my homepage now.
Also testing out the ##crack trip

>>21445691
Light Peak is so fucking worthless. They don't even call it Light Peak anymore, they removed the entire optical component and renamed it Thunderbolt. Disgrace of a project if you ask me. The entire allure was the huge speed increase of using fiber optic connects, instead they settled for "fast enough" and did everything over copper. What the fuck?

>not waiting for bulldozer 2

Oh you ..

>>21445735
>10% faster than BD
>still ~30% slower than a 2500k

>>21445702
>gentoo.me
Gave me a boner.

>>21445727
In due time. Those jews will deliver the goods when they stop being jews. Who am I kidding?

>>21445727
Hopefully we see it implemented on some stuff soon. It's superior to USB 3.0 and it can do more things. It might not be as good as it once was considered but it's pretty damn good.