>telegraph

I can see the headline now.

>Cyber bullies committing suicide in mass after being banned from the web.

/b/ wont exist anymore?

sadfrog.jpg

They got to be fucking kidding.

>>21259844
yea, old technology.

how do you ban someone from the internet?

>hoodie indoors
>mac
>mc donalds
>not kfc master race

2/10

Grab EVERYTHING! internet is going to change...excuse me i got a lot of porn to get.

Hahahaha only in murrika

"Sex offenders and those convicted of harrassment or anti-social behaviour also face more internet restrictions under the new strategy."

anti-social behaviour
what the fuck? you don't talk to people, you're banned from the interwebz.
all of my wut

The UK is acting so silly towards all that eBullshit.

france tried this and got told by the court in den hag that Internet is a basic human right and they can't ban people from it.

Rev up those servers! It's backing up time!

Those Tory scum want British kids to work for their benefits in private business. Its slavery nothing less. And now this, bawww baw I've been cyber bullied! Fuck off.

>>21259930
This. FUCK!

Good thing I grew out of "trolling" when I was 14, so this law won't affect me.

>hurr durr america no freedom britain got freedom

next time one of you faggots flame somebody i'm going to the police

enjoy no internet faggots

>>21259908
anti-social != asocial

learn the difference

Fucks sake. This whole cyber bullshit is so fucking 5 years ago. How the fuck can you even "ban somone from the internet" anyway?

>>21259879
>how do you ban someone from the internet?
You cannot, but it sounds good, so they say it and hope to be reelected. In reality, these measures will be used to attack the ignorant for things like music downloading. The real criminals are too sophisticated to be so simply dissuaded and the "cyber-bullying" issue is far too close to censorship. People will not stand for it if it actually affects their habitual behaviour.

>>21259944
Reported for cyber bullying. I took great offense to that, It almost made me cry. My father passed away like that...

Hahaha oh wow.
>Yurop

>>21259904
>USA
>.co.uk

LAND OF THE FREE amirite?
Enjoy your censorship, murrikans.

>>21259964
>UK
>Yurop
Nope.

1. You can't ban someone from the internet because it would have to go through your jewish ISP that wants all your money and banning you from the internet means no money to them
2. It's fucking internet
hurr durr this wont wurrk

>>21259972
>Enjoy your censorship, murrikans.
What? Did you read the article. This is in the UK, silly. Get over you denial and do something about it. The United States actually has more protection for freedom of expression than we do. Try burning a Qur'an here. Seriously. Do it and make a scene. See what happens.

>>21260006
>>21260006

>The United States actually has more protection for freedom of expression than we do

3/10 almost had me.

>>21260006
>The United States actually has more protection for freedom of expression than we do.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>Try burning a Qur'an here. Seriously. Do it and make a scene. See what happens.
Sorry, I'm not an ignorant twat who supports hate speech.

Nice try acting English you fat murrikan fuck.

>>21259829
>Telegraph.co.uk

Aside from this, this stinks of new-Tory, knee-jerk reactions to try and grab support from the clueless twats whom don't know how internet works.

>>21259829
lo umad britfags

>>21260026
They do. Honestly, they do. They are worse than we are in almost every conceivable way otherwise, but you can deny the Holocaust there for example.

> 2011
> Still being a British citizen

>>21259829
>UK

ENJOYING YOUR FREEDOM BRITFAGS?

>>21260047
>you can deny the Holocaust there for example.
So you support hate speech? That's the only thing murrika protects.

>>21260031
>not writing a script to download the quran and deleting it

to the people who post
>telegraph

where do you get your non bias propaganda news?

>Great britain in charge of police state

On a bright note, considering it's the future of the UK, V for Vendetta wasn't a bad movie.

>>21260047
0/10

>>21260031
>Sorry, I'm not an ignorant twat who supports hate speech.
That is freedom of expression, fool. Renaming it does not change that. What becomes "hate" speech next?
>Nice try acting English you fat murrikan fuck.
Smells like denial...

>>21259904
That's a UK website, you fucking ignorant bigot. :)

UK have been a police state for years now with CCTV and shit soon they will be 100% botnet

>>21260082
>English sites don't print world news
Ok

Unworkable they can buy a new SIM for a 3G modem with cash no paperwork

>>21260078
There's nothing good about hate speech, and your slippery slope bullshit is a logical fallacy.
In America you can go to jail for screaming BOMB in an airport. How is that any different from calling someone a sandnigger here?
There is no place on Earth where you have true "freedom of speech".

>>21260097
>how do i read news

>>21260117

Blah blah blah.

Hate speech isn't good or bad. It's a right, retard.

>>21260109
i guess there will be a law for that soon when they understand it

>>21260117
>Antarctica
What now?

>>21260128
I guess it's also my right to kill muslims and niggers. What right does the bloody Government have to say what I can and can't do?

>>21259904
>(...) The Ministry of Justice (...)
HA HA HA ONLY IN AMERICA

>>21260148

no your don't have the right to kill anyone but you have to right to say your gonna kill them

>>21260153
STFU how was i supposed to know

>>21260148
Killing is different from verbally abusing. Also, that guy you're arguing with never said we have 100% freedom, he said we have more freedom than you do.

>telegraph
>sun
>dailymail
>trustworthy sources
This doesn't really both me though. Cyber harassment is pretty common and just as hurtful as any other form of harassment.
There must be some real distinction between harassment and light hearted trolling though.

>>21260130
nah, that would be too specific and intended for too few targets

>>21260161
I doubt you have that right in any civilized country.

Try running towards Obama with a gun and say I am going to shoot you.
I bet you would be arrested, even though you just said you would kill him.

>>21260166
The "more freedom" you have only protects hate speech and racism. Not surprising seeing as the USA is an archaic, backwards nation.

>>21260161
No, you shouldn't. And if I remember right in America you can't incite violence or make threats either. Stop supporting racism. It's 2011.

>>21260174
>with a gun
I found your problem.

>>21260174
If you ran after the President with a gun, you're much more likely to get shot and killed than be arrested.

>Banned from the internet

>>21260202
>>21260174
>>21260186
>>21260166
>>21260161
American here. You can't make threats on people's lives legally. If you're in the KKK and you're holding a rally it's all fine until you tell them to go kill people. Making a threat against Obama would get the secret service on you, even if you are not a real threat (as was shown a few weeks after he was elected when some idiots posted talked about killing him on some white nationalist website.)

>>21260202
minus the gun you'd still go to jail

>>21260174
No shit, that's assault with a deadly weapon. If you ran toward ANYONE with a gun and said that, you would be arrested.

ITT: Butthurt UK teenagers that can't accept that the place they live is just as shitty as the America that they spend a majority of their time talking shit about.

Delicious tears, by the way.

>>21260186
>stop racism

haha wow, there is some black muslims at my job and they are racist as fuck to white people and hate on gay just like the "white racist people"

i will stop being "racist" when minorities also stop

>>21260223
You can, actually. I've watched a whole lot of Cops, and people have told the cops they were going to kill them, and the charges never included the threat.

>>21260223
Threats are a completely different thing from telling people that they are a faggot.
"You're a faggot and I hope you die"
Is a million miles from
"You're a faggot and I'm going to kill you"

>>21260234
Oh look, someone who voted BNP.
Two wrongs don't make a right.

>>21260234
>Minorities are a collective hivemind and all have the same opinions on every subject ever

I never got this /new/sfag logic.

>>21259939
>work for their benefits
>slavery

because criminals wear black hoodies while sitting on the floor with a macbook next to empty pizza boxes

>>21260242
>>21260244
The line is drawn when you've proven beyond a reasonable doubt that you'd actually carry out the threat.

Of course joking around and baseless barking isn't going to land you in jail.

I didn't realize macbooks had spot lights for screens.

does this mean that I cannot post pics of my dick in the internet?

I will kill myself, my life have no meaning anymore

>>21260258
It's the Telegraph, what did you expect?

In other news, The European Court of Justice has ruled that content owners cannot ask ISPs to filter out illegal content.

So it's not all doom and gloom over here.

>>21260057
>So you support hate speech?
I support all expression. If a person has something to say, you should be able to win the resulting argument if he is wrong. The problem arises when he or she is not wrong. We have nothing to fear from Holocaust deniers and their like, unless there is something that we should know. If there is, I would like to hear it. At the very least, I wish to see them debate their views in public before an audience instead of spreading them about in an underhanded fashion to escape the law. I believe that many censorship supporters are insecure about their beliefs and fear debating them. Censorship creates more hatred in my opinion, not less.

>>21260117
>In America you can go to jail for screaming BOMB in an airport.
You would only be arrested and charged with "disturbing the peace"? I am unsure, but it does not seem likely that someone would be incarcerated for such a small thing unless he or she actually possessed a destructive device.

>>21260186
>The "more freedom" you have only protects hate speech and racism.
I disagree. The majority of Americans are clearly not racists, unless you missed what their current democratically elected president looks like.
>And if I remember right in America you can't incite violence or make threats either.
Of course not. Do they not have the world's largest prison population?

Well this news just confirms America is not longer the land of the free.

>>21260247
>>21260249
no i did not vote for BNP , I'm not even british

also everybody have prejudge and hate be hide peoples back, stop living in your utopia world where you have no feeling and you never prejudge anyone of people of any background

>>21260281
It means you can't harass people online. Which you shouldn't be doing anyway.
Harassment is illegal, it only makes sense to extend the rules to the internet. It's no different from harassing by post or by phone.
I'm not sure how they will ban people from the internet though, the EU said it was a human right.

God Murrikans are so fucking stupid.

>>21260343
This, if you have done enough to be done in for harassment you have it coming. Not like the internet will miss you.

Calling someone a faggot on 4chan doesn't constitute as harassment.

It would be great if there was a site where adults could discuss these things without trolls and retards. It's like everything on 4chan comes down to which country you're from.

>>21260387
>It would be great if there was a site where adults could discuss these things without trolls and retards.
There will be retards everywhere, when you go by the definition of "people who don't agree with what I think is obvious" which is what most people use it for these days.

Would be neat to have a place with nothing but rational discussions tho, without the faggotry you often find in forums

>>21260247
>Oh look, someone who voted BNP.
Honestly, the BNP would have my allegiance if they were not hateful. They make a few decent points. Their stance on immigration and censorship is spot on. Sadly, they are quite terrible otherwise.

>>21260031
If you don't support hate speech, then prove it by burning a Qu'ran.

>>21260416
I support free education, I could burn a book supporting free education without hesitation.
Your logic is beyond retarded.

>>21260416
Or burn a Bible or Torah

>>21260432
You support free as in beer rather than free as in freedom.
>>21260471
They all contain scriptures promoting hatred, genocide and discrimination.

>>21260373
yfw the avg person know very little outside of their trade.

>Banning people from information
Retarded

>Support b&'s for antisemitism and racism
>cry about more censorship
Oh b& town! Oh, you...

>>21260535
>it's_not_bad_when_we_do_it.jpeg

>>21260530
>british government acting retarded
SHOCKER!
>>21260535
Wasn't that the picture that got Psychopath's trip banned?

>>21260416
>If you don't support hate speech, then prove it by burning a Qu'ran.
If you believe the Qur'an is hateful, perhaps you should read the Talmud. Hitler's "Mein Kamf" is relatively tolerant when the two are compared. The Bible, Tanach/Talmud, and the Qur'an are all extremely hateful. They are overflowing with venom, although the Talmud actually stands out in the sheer depths of its depravity.

>>21260471
>Torah
The Jewish Holy Book is actually called the Tanach, with the Talmud as an important (and long) commentary.

>supporting hate speech laws
>on 4chan

>>21260560
I am quite well aware of the hatred within the Talmud and it is quite disturbing. There isn't a snowball's chance in hell that it will be banned with the kind of people in power right now.

>>21260561
>>21260561
>>21260561
>>21260561
>>21260561
>>21260561
>>21260561
>>21260561
>>21260561
>>21260561
>>21260561

>>21260561
That picture sadly sums up European political thought of this age.

we got the same thing here in france, it's illegal to get out statistics about race, religion and even specify the race or religion of someone who did crap on the news.

example : a criminal killed someone - never give their name because it may sound like Ahmed or Mouhid.
riots in the streets : young ones. even if they're older than me, the immigrants are called "young from the suburbs" with of course an entire speech from a popfag about their problems, racism in france and unemployment hitting this layer of the population.

feels good to post on 4chan where we still have the right to say it.

>>21260586
Isn't it called "Politically Incorrect" for a reason? THAT is the board where the racist posts should be and /new/ should be brought back as the news board.

They should censor talk radio those guys spew so much hatred everyday. Always talking about how the liberal media is a machine of hate. Those guys can't even control their rage on air.

>telegraph
There's yer problem.
The government does this all the time, its just a fucking nudge to the Daily Mail audience to keep them happy. Guaranteed you won't see a single conviction.

From the thumbnail he looks like an old, bearded man. With a Mac.

>>21260624

Yeeeah government shut down those evil conservatives not loving big government and being passionate about their views!! HAIL OBAMA!!!

>>21260608
>>21260608
whatever doublethink

>>21260608
/new/ would just be /new/ again. /n/ should be merged into /o/, and then /n/ should become the news board again.

Alternatively, trains.

>>21260606
you also ban burkhas and have some of the most lazy hurr anti system people in the world, protip they arent all arab

>>21260608
Probably just a butthurt jew mod. It's not like they ever do their job like they're supposed to or anything.

>>21260315
>The majority of Americans are clearly not racists, unless you missed what their current democratically elected president looks like.
>unless you missed what their current democratically elected president looks like.
>democratically elected president
>elected

>implying he was elected
>implying it wasn't only the niggers who voted for him
>implying he wouldn't have been made president even if everybody vited Ron Paul
>implying implications about the unimplied

RON PAUL 2012

>>21260641
no they just always talk about how the liberal media is the machine of hate while totally disregarding what they are saying.
Btw i don't think the liberal media does a good job of being unbiased either, so i tend to listen/watch to both conservative and liberal media. I wished they were unbiased.

>>21259829
yeah, that will work

just look at Japan and how outlawing guns got rid of the armed robberies, oh wait

>>21260606
>illegal to get out statistics about race, religion and even specify the race or religion of someone who did crap on the news
Well, in part they are attempting to hide their demographic elimination of the former working class's relevance to keep the relative value of labour very low and ensure that the labour market favours employers.

Other than that, they wish to prevent the current majority of becoming aware of the problem before it is too late to reverse the trend. The reaction could potentially resemble the Third Reich.

>>21260637
>nudge to the Daily Mail audience to keep them happy
People who behave thusly have no business attempting to govern me.

>>21260680
>Niggers
>12% of the population when Obama got at least %55~ of the popular vote

cool story bro

>>21260680
ron paul wants to get rid of the bill of rights

RON PAUL 2012

>>21260680
>implying it wasn't only the niggers who voted for him
You do realize that he would have won if none of those African Americans had voted for him, right?

>>21260680
>Ron Paul
He'll never get elected. Besides if his libertarian views ever do make it through congress you'll see monopolies coming back and then maybe some neofeudalism. Towns built right around factories.

>>21260710
>People who behave thusly have no business attempting to govern me.
Every government does it, if people weren't so fucking stupid then they wouldn't need to. We live in a huge media age, govts. have to respond to public opinion, and most of the Conservative votes come from the DM. So they put these little gestures out while they get on with the real work.

>>21260713
Since when? Pretty sure he believes they're a part of the original text anyway (as most people rightly do).

>>21260734
>monopolies coming back and then maybe some neofeudalism. Towns built right around factories.
I am okay with this. Serfs were fed, housed, and clothed at least.

>>21260734

This is what leftists actually believe.

>>21260734
>Towns built right around factories.
Does that mean the end of towns in America?

>>21260745
Ron Paul says
> The feds dont have any right to tell me what to do.

Freenet is the future, the jews cant get you if youre on Freenet

>>21260761
What? Are you referring to the fact that he only believes that Congress has the right to legislate on enumerated powers? Because that's not even part of the BOR

>>21260754
Look at the countries without regulations like we have. Horrible working conditions. They pay ppl very little and when people try to organize they hire other people to beat the shit out of them. They also tried making it illegal to collect rainwater and were charging crazy high prices for water in bolivia; the indians went nuts.
>>21260751

>>21260793
> countries without regulations
> making it illegal to collect rainwater
...

im really laughing at people that think the UK is more free than the US

you brainwashed dullards basically live under martial law

come take and trip over here and smell what what freedom is

>>21260734
More like bunk sharing in your Chinese owned Chinese toilet factory

Glad I came into this thread. Thanks.

>>21260793
Also forgot to mention what happens when you let businesses do what they want.
In the months before the start of the great depression, herbet hoover had a meeting with the bankers and asked them to voluntarily loan more money to small business and banks. Well they saw a business opportunity and decided not to and let thousands of banks fail. This caused people to lose their savings and other people withdrew money from the banks causing more to fail and fucked up the economy big time. Not th only cause though just a big one.

>>21260814
Someone's been watching a little too much Fox.

>>21260833
nah i've been watching every one of you thru cctv

>>21260776
i2p + tahoe-lafs > freenet
deal with it

>>21260824
I came too.

>>21260829
Someone's been taking a little A level History.
Comparing our situation to 30s is beyond retarded.

am i allowed to report this thread i really think i should be allowed to

>>21260810
I meant business regulations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_privatization

>>21260879
Most of the banking regulations that were put in place in the 30s have been removed.
Companies in general are absorbing more and more of their competitors thus making competition less perfect.
Also its getting harder and harder for the avg working man to support his family without his wife working as well.

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy.
I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility.
After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration.
At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issued by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.

>>21260958
Then, after spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, I drive back to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and the fire marshall's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.
I then log onto the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.

>>21260931
If you don't think things are seriously better now than in the 30s then you have a serious reality problem.
On a side note, Max Keiser, on the Keiser Report on RT will be right up your street.

>>21260931
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>>21260969
No i'll agree that the avg quality of life has vastly improved for the majority of americans since the roaring 20s when ironically ~60& of the population lived under the poverty line.
But that doesn't mean we should just be complacent and let these companies try to take our freedoms away.

>>21260964
gotta love the dichotomy of average Amurikkkan