No, the bills specifically target foreign servers.

>>21120965
How? They don't have jurisdiction over what other countries do.

More likely that moot would finally put on a shirt.

Why the fuck not? Fuck the US. The rest of the world is out there. Soon enough they will realize what a retarded mistake it was.

Yeah we could.
The rest of the world will isolate american internet and segregate themselves from it, because of the stupid fucking laws.

>>21120993
USA owns the nameservers for the world and can take over any domain.

>>21121003
Will there be a way for American citizens to access their Internet? Like with a proxy or something?

>>21120993
They do have jurisdiction over what American ISPs do, and moot isn't going to go out of the US just to cater to Europe and shit. The US still represents the lion's share of traffic - just like 90% of all sites.

The best solution to this whole thing is just crushing the bill. Everyone from moot to Eric Schmidt is so invested in the internet at status quo that they are fighting to keep it from being affected. Moving overseas would not be any more acceptable than putting Google HQ on the moon.

Moot has just upgraded the servers. It will take him a year or so to recover from the effort.

>>21121007

Then why do sites that stream media always move to .ch and .me if the US has control over all of the domains?

Couldn't this spark a war if one country got fed up enough to just say, "fuck you" to the United States and their laws?

>>21121007
Not for long.

is there any updates to this shit, the hearing was 10am on the 16th i thought

>>21121018
Moot doesn't have to go out of his way though. Just move the server to Europe. It all can be uploaded their easily from any computer using a proxy.

>>21121018
>just like 90% of all sites.
Stopped reading there

>>21120993
They block US IPs from connecting to sites they deem illegal. if the servers were in Canada everyone would be able to connect except for Americans.

Not that 4chan will be blocked.

>>21121002
>The rest of the world
Save for a few pockets, the rest of the world is absolutely shitty. Like I wouldn't wish my worst enemy to be stuck there.

The US makes the most traffic by FAR. Like it's not even close. We consume like motherfuckers. If the EU wants to take that spot as consumers, feel free to show that you have an appetite to consume as much as we fat Americans do. Otherwise, let us Americans gorge on media, food, and whatever else we want that keeps producers producing.

I was reading the bill on the official senate web page and why does this entire thing feel socialist/communist? If I cannot access foreign websites, please tell me there is a proxy that could grant me access? I mean, the middle east has them.

>>21121036
What's wrong with you? Did you have a seizure or something?

>>21121007
No they don't.

>>21121042
>Otherwise, let us Americans gorge on media, food, and whatever else we want that keeps producers producing.

This is exactly what Hollywood is trying to do.

>>21121042
Europe is by far better than the US you fucking fundie. Brazil, China, and India are also surpassing your economy.

>>21121048
>can't access foreign sites
>socialist/communist
Get your government types right. You mean fascist/nationalist.

>>21121042
This was true in 1990.

>>21121060

Not really. Everything they do has been preventing that.

>>21121062
>better
not at reading comprehension, apparently.

>>21121063
So the United States is basically the new Nazi Germany?

>>21121074
I'm pretty sure he got what you were saying. And be respectful to the English. They gave us our language that we've killed.

>>21121049
I got bored

>>21121021
>Couldn't this spark a war if one country got fed up enough to just say, "fuck you" to the United States and their laws?
No.
No one fights wars over domain names.

>>21121078
If the law passes, it would be a move towards fascism. It's a far cry from Hitler, but it would be consistent with his views.

But then, wearing pants is consistent with his views. So, you know... Take it with a grain of salt.

>>21121078
>So the United States is basically the new Nazi Germany?

Outside of the genocide, it's getting there.

>>21121096
He does make a point though. China could very much declare a cyber war on the US. Remember, the US most recently declared that a cyber attack was an act of war. Who the fuck attaches important shit to the world wide web?

>>21121078
>old news

>>21121096
Then how come the US declared a cyber attack to be an act of war?

>>21121102
Define "outside"

>>21121104

>china declares cyberware on US
>us defaults on it's T-bills it sold China
>because we can
>china implodes

>>21121018
>implying google wont buy the moon just to put a logo up there

Americunts are the cancer killing the internet.

>>21121124
Except China could also fuck US up as well. Keep in mind that we depend on them just as much as they depend on us. We can't default any bills we have with them or else we're at risk too.

>>21121125
Wouldn't be dynamic enough. If they can't target lunar advertisements to every individual user, it's not good enough.

All this bill says to me is that the US finally got big, fat, lazy and stupid enough to point a gun at its own head and pull the trigger.

>>21121141
You say that, but imagine how much you could sell moon advertising space for.

>>21121137

Don't you worry. You brits and aussies are just getting around to this. Soon after us, you will have your own country firewalls.

>>21121137
"Americunts" created the network protocols with which the internet uses.

Without "Americunts", you couldn't even complain about them with random people across the globe.

>>21121018
Actually Asia has the largest share of internet users at 44% of all internet users.
Not surprising when you consider the top 2 most populous nations are in Asia.
Europe is second with 22.7%.
North America has about 13%.

>>21121152
How do you get around a firewall?

>>21121153
Ironic isn't it, that if this bill passes, they will no longer use them.

>>21121153
If Americans didn't invent the Internet. Someone else would have. It would have been only a matter of time.

>>21121161
build a tunnel from your end, underneath the wall of fire, and connect an ethernet cord to a router on the other side.

VPN.

Seriously, guys. There's no way to bypass this if it passes. There's always a way around things.

>>21121161
water

>>21121184

What is VPN? Sorry, I'm new to this tech business.

>>21121137
>loli illegal in germany and half the countries in yurop (including canadia)
>pornography of flat chested women, including hustler and playboy, banned in ausfailia
>all internet censored in china/islamic countries
>english government wants to take down/censor facebook and "social media"
>germans banned from mentioning the holocaust in a way their government disagrees with

Yeah. *American's* the problem.

>>21121175
>implying xenophobic countries (i.e. everyone but the US) would want long-range communications with other countries for anything other than treaties and negotiations

nope.mkv

TCP/IP and OSI wouldn't exist without America, and no other country would ever come up with an alternative if it wasn't for Americans.

>>21121194
And Americans will soon join that list by censoring everything.

>>21121194
Americans are lazy

>>21121193
Virtual private network.

Basically, one computer acts as a proxy that you connect to. In the business world, companies let you connect to their VPN so you can work from home on their network. The same kind of thing can be done that lets you "share" a connection remotely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network

>>21121052
post the rest

>>21121195
Sounds very xenophobic there.

>>21121189
5 star post

>>21121202
Then how is Hamachi a VPN? Is the IP I was assigned another computer?

>>21121194
>Designed to stop pedos
>designed to, well, fuck knows it's ausfailia
>designed to repress the people there
>Designed to, well, fuck knows, it's Failland.
>More about embarrassment.

And america's?
Designed to stop people sharing music.

>>21121198
*Everyone*. Not everything. What they want to censor is websites that discuss pirating. They're not targeting loli.

>>21121184
Actually, VPN and other proxy-like software may be deemed illegal under SOPA.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111111/17543116729/sopa-its-broad-regulation-vpns-proxies-other-i
mportant-tools.shtml

>>21121218
But wouldn't the pirates just use Tor so they can't be tracked down?

>>21121215
So good intentions = good results?

What was even the point of your post?

>>21121218
That's cute

>>21121214
You are assigned a virtual IP from LogMeIn that lets you communicate with other people on their "network"

It's the same thing, basically.

>>21121224
That is illegal in it's self and they can be sued.

I wish Anonymous (the old one) was still around. The US wouldn't stand a chance against them.

>>21121104
China is just trolling. They are pretty harmless. Most of their exports and imports come from Europe and the US, they would never do anything to harm their great economy. They're just a bit touchy about being pushed around like they were in the past with the colonial empires. That and they're a communist regime which like to have powerful show of force.

>>21121224
That bill is actually illegal and could result to thousands of jailbreaks.

>>21121224
（╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

>>21121153

Network protocols that were based on the protocols that powered the French national network.

>>21121233

>>21121250
this is what french faggots actually believe

>>21121140
Once our companies start mining the moon for previous, glittering metals and we fully convert to superior Dwarven culture, China can take a hike.

>>21121259

dumb american hick detected. i am ashamed of being an american.

It doesn't matter who invented it, what's important is that America is screwed and you're arguing that 'WAH MY COUNTRY INVENTED IT WAH' instead of actually facing reality, which is; America will no longer have internet access.

How long before the United States becomes total anarchy and people get killed?

I've been awaiting for this day for a while now so that the government finally learns what the fuck can happen if they fuck up a single bill.

>>21121266
And how many american moon missions do you know of?
China is actually leading the way in lunar exploration nowadays.

>>21121272
who gives a shit, /g/ can form a darknet so it won't matter what's censored on the internet

>>21121259

>Cerf credits Hubert Zimmerman and Louis Pouzin, designer of the CYCLADES network, with important influences on this design.

>>21121194
actually no porn is banned in australia except kiddie porn and real rape/necro/torture shit
beastiality is fine loli anime shit is fine scat is fine

>>21121280
>sit in your basement instead of doing anything at all
Hero

>>21121118
They didn't. They said an attack would be matched with an appropriate retaliation.
Basically if you destroy a US power plant or cause a chemical leak they will bomb your power plants and blow up your military facilities.

This was already pretty obvious, they just wanted to it make clear to Iran that they wouldn’t get away with trying to destroy US infrastructure behind the proxy of a hacker group.

>>21121272
>America will no longer have internet access.
They'd just create a second Internet.

>>21121285
How do you access darknet?

>>21121296
How do you know he lives in a basement?

Actually the NPL had a internet system before the Americans with the help of Donald Davis (Welsh)

Also funny enough tim berners lee stated he would never patent the www not to mention he didnt even make much money from inventing it

Good how Americans are greedy as fuck

>>21121283
Right, China has started working towards space. You know who else has? Companies with holdings in America. That's not to say America, itself--our space program was worthless before they neutered it--but now some new doors have opened up. Google for a source, though, because I'm going to sleep.

israel>china>russia>usa
in terms of amount of damage they could cause before defeat

>>21121152
Australia already has a firewall.
This is common knowledge everywhere.

>>21121297
But that could kill everyone on the planet since the US has nukes. So why bother attacking them if it'll lead to a nuclear world war three?

>>21121283
>implying china's one successful rocket launch supercedes a decade of american moon missions

>that feel when you're just going to kill yourself anyway and you won't get to see the fall of america
beginning of the end
if this passes, there will be a large revolt
this is the straw that breaks the camel's back
it's all downhill from here

i give america 35 years

>>21121313
no only a certain handfull of isps do

>>21121287

>>21121298
>How do you access darknet?
you make your own... a darknet is a private network not connected to the internet

after all, the internet is just a network of networks

it's not as if a packet-switched network has to be publicly available and on the internet

>>21121324
But isn't it more likely that the dumbwits will go along with it as long as Facebook survives?

>>21121175
The WWW and HTML were both invented by a Briton.
Americans would even have website if it wasn't for Britain's achievements.

>>21121298
>They'd just create

You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you? I'm going to bed.

>>21121317
I'm sorry, did I miss the American lunar mining bases?
Americans were the first to potter about on the moon, and now china is learning from that and going there to get some work done.

>>21121332
So what service provider do I use?

>mfw this
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57324779-281/doj-lying-on-match.com-needs-to-be-a-crime/

>>21121330
no its not confirmed for fuck retarded murrrikkkant

>>21121324
>yurp
>killing selves

Sounds about right.

>>21121317

Oh boy. Just keep using that excuse for another 30 years.

>>21121287

Actually, almost all porn is banned except for softcore and anything that can be successfully argued to have artistic merit.

The regulations on pornography are pretty ridiculous, for example there is a regulation that stipulates the acceptable angles and distances from which an erect penis can be shown.

>>21121341
Uhh, this thread is discussing darknet which is a second Internet. Dumbass.

>>21121194
>English Government
No such thing.

>>21121343
if you want to form a darknet you'll have to be your own service provider

>>21121340
>>21121305
Here we go...

>>21121363
How do I do that?

>>21121298
>How do you access darknet?
Well, you see, it involves installing Gentoo...

>>21121366
>fat americunt trying to distract himself from the destruction of his access to the internet by whining about 'who invented what' stupidity.

>>21121342
When was the first manned Chinese lunar landing?

>>21121304
Don't we all live in basements?
I'm pretty sure anyone on /g/ that says they've been outside is a liar

>>21121357
>darknet which is a second Internet.
Please leave forever

>>21121366

Well you can Google it kiddo...

>>21121356
Isn't that for porn that is produced here?

>>21121367
learn about TCP/IP, OSI, subnetting, CIDR, etc.

taking a college class or reading books would be a good place to start

>>21121340

To be fair, HTML is just a subset of SGML which comes from IBM.

The concepts of hypertext, markup, etc. where not invented by that British guy whose name I forget, he just designed this particular implementation and it turned out to be the one everyone decided to use.