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  • STOP INTERNET CENSORSHIP—TWO BILLS IN CONGRESS UNDERMINE THE PRINCIPLES OF THE WEB

    American Censorship Day: November 16, 2011
    On November 16th, the "Stop Online Piracy Act" will be heard in Congress. This legislation, in addition to the Senate's "Protect IP Act," completely undermine and fundamentally change the core principles of the Web. They have the potential to radically alter or shut down sites like YouTube, Flickr, 4chan, others, and all new companies that follow.
    See americancensorship.org for more and help us stop these bills from becoming law.

    (Site back online after DDoS—sorry about the downtime. Be sure to follow @4chan and @moot on Twitter and check status.4chan.org in the event of future downtime.)

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    94 KB Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:34 No.21114832  
    If the SOPA bill passes, what country will you move to, 'murricans?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:36 No.21114851
    >living in america

    HAHA, NOPE. Enjoy your cheeseburgers and censorship, fat as fatasses.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:37 No.21114861
    Canada. Montreal is a nice place.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:37 No.21114867
    Don't even think of coming to australia you sweaty fucks
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:38 No.21114872
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    Albania because they love us and I heard anything not allowed here is pretty much legal there.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:39 No.21114877
    >>21114851

    Obviously has not been to 'murrica. Portion sizes are generally bigger in Europe, no lie. Sure, there's Texas and the occasional retarded "eat a 52" pizza in 2 hours and its free" kind of assfuckery, but it isn't the norm.

    THE MORE YOU KNOW
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:39 No.21114878
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    I dont plan on moving, but If I decided it was time, I would head south. At least the other side of panama.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:39 No.21114882
    >>21114867

    >Going to a country with even worse censorship

    ha

    but in all seriousness. Probably canada. I live right next top the border. (Seattle)
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:40 No.21114885
    >>21114861
    Canada is a TERRIBLE place an nobody, not even american subhuman scum should even consider living there. You want to go to australia. Seriously, don't go to Canada.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:40 No.21114893
    >>21114877

    But the food is healthier and people walk more in yurope
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:42 No.21114904
    >>21114882
    See
    >>21114882
    If you go to Canada you will probably get jumped and mugged the first day you are there. I would reconsider.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:43 No.21114911
    >>21114885

    Eh, Australia has its problems man, remember they were going to put a hueg firewall here?

    At least our IPS had a win against the RIAA.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:45 No.21114932
    >>21114911
    That's worlds better than Canada. Canada is really going to shit, it's like detroit. Enjoy trying to not get knifed or shot if you leave your house. Also, they're getting rid of that free healthcare stuff.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:45 No.21114937
    >>21114911
    You mean like the one being implemented in america?
    Except we didn't get one
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:46 No.21114941
    >>21114893

    Not even. Most educated people/many people go to the gym for a strenuous workout (i.e. lifting weights, running for 2+ hours) multiple times per week. Also, "salad" in Europe means "whatever is on the menu, but on lettuce/spinach/endive". "Salad" in the U.S. means lots of fresh fruits, vegetables, and nuts with a light vegetable oil based dressing. The U.S. has a ridiculous number of health-food stores and health nuts. The U.S. is not Texas.

    >>21114885

    Hello there, neighbor! I promise I'm a nice guy. I'm sure we'll get along great! I won't even rape your wife, drink your rivers, or eat your entire country's food supply!
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:47 No.21114947
    >>21114941
    I swear to god. Stay the fuck out of Canada.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:48 No.21114953
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    Americunts are sleeping right now
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:49 No.21114962
    What's wrong with stopping piracy?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:49 No.21114965
    >>21114937

    Its still lingering in parliament somewhere. I have a feeling when the NBN becomes more prominent then it will make a return.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:50 No.21114971
    >>21114953

    I'm not. I'm in yurop :B

    Europe /g/ is fun. It's like every thread is Amerifag question hour.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:51 No.21114979
    >>21114962
    there is a difference between what they tell you the bill does, and what the bill does.

    but you wouldnt know unless you had read half of the thread
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:52 No.21114982
    >>21114953
    I'm not but anyways I'm not sure where I'll go, I was thinking Canada since it's close. Australia is a no go sadly, the politicians there are crazier than the ones we have here.

    >>21114962
    It doesn't.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:52 No.21114984
    I think I will stay here. I love it here. If the bill passes well that sucks but, I have my VPS.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:54 No.21114993
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    faproulette ITT
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:55 No.21115000
    >>21114962
    it doesnt stop piracy
    it stops free speech, sharing of legitimate stuff, and ensures companies can sue whoever whenever for profit
    it also cripples the internets infrastructure as a little bonus
    >> !R//////ngo 11/16/11(Wed)07:57 No.21115012
    When will it be decided the bill passes?

    Also I like it how nobody (gvernments) in Yurop gives a shit and SHHHHT-s its news.
    I also like how the bill gets presented as a countermeasure against piracy, while after reading it, it becomes clear it's a countermeasure against free speech on any website.

    Didn't anybody see
    >and for other purposes.
    ?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)07:59 No.21115031
    >>21114832
    Doesn't matter which fucking country you'll move to, you're still fucked.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:00 No.21115033
    >>21115012
    If it doesn't pass today, they'll set up the next vote for a holiday so congress passes it so they don't spend the holiday at work.

    American Legislation 101
    >> !R//////ngo 11/16/11(Wed)08:01 No.21115049
    >>21115031
    Russia
    China
    North Korea

    In those countries you won't be affected by any American law.

    You will get executed for badmouthing their government, but at least you still can keep sharing stuff.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:02 No.21115055
    >implying this won't affect the entire western world
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:03 No.21115066
    I like how all the reasons americans don't like Australia are made up

    censorship/firewall law never passed


    meanwhile, we have tax rate about the same as america (but much more progressive so you pay a lot less if you're poor/middle class)
    free healthcare
    almost free university (and yes, a few of them are in the world top 50)
    average wealthiest citizens in the world
    unemployment 5%
    economic future tied to asia so likely to keep booming for forseeable future
    number 1 human development index
    biggest minority is hawt east asians
    90% of population lives on the coast, and we have excellent beaches and your choice of excellent climates

    ahh what do i care
    if you're not smart enough to know these things we don't really want you here

    if you happen to be a medical professional (especially nurses), engineer of any sort, most tradespeople, a person who can speak a useful second language
    you will be welcomed with open arms
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:04 No.21115073
    Norway: wealthy country in the west of Yurop, and isn't part of the European Union. Population density of 385,155 people / km^2 (oh, and it uses good systems, like the metric one). As a comparison, it's 9,826,675 / km^2 in the US.

    Cons: fucking cold, and I think there's racism (could someone confirm?).

    Switzerland: wealthy country in West Yurop, not part of the EU. Your monies don't go to war. You can vote for laws and propose them.

    Cons: impossible to get in.

    I'm considering those as well as a few others. Does anyone know more about life quality in Japan or Liechtenstein? What about Malaysia, are they wealthy?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:04 No.21115075
    I live in Israel. Not going anywhere.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:05 No.21115080
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    So what are the actual chances of this shit passing? Or is this one of those, 'test the waters just to see how badly skewed the votes are so we can see how much we have to modify it' type deals.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:07 No.21115099
    czech republic, here i cum!
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:10 No.21115125
    >can't pirate software anymore
    >plan to emigrate
    you fags need to straighten out your priorities

    even then, I highly doubt most of you can even afford a plane ticket out of here, much less navigate the immigration process into another country. what will happen most likely is you'll borrow money from parents to get a plane ticket, and get deported in a month or two after your temporary visa expires because you couldn't be bothered to go through the immigration application forms and checks.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:11 No.21115131
    >>21115066
    What about the fact that I'd be scared shitless all the time of being bit by some mutant spider or snake (or spider-snake)?
    >> !R//////ngo 11/16/11(Wed)08:12 No.21115135
    >>21115125
    HAVEN'T YOU READ THE BILL?

    It's nothing about counterfeiting pirates, it's to counterfeit free speech and everything in between.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:12 No.21115138
    >>21115080
    Decent despite resistance. Rights holders get cuddly with senators.

    Making a big show of the shortcomings and giving a shit makes it more likely senators will want to appear like they care about the people and act against it.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:12 No.21115140
    >>21115125
    It's not just about "pirating software," you fucking illiterate cunt.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:13 No.21115145
    >>21115135
    Here is what is *going* to happen if this passes.

    Youtube basically shuts down.

    The collective US population will

    SHIT


    BLOOD

    IN

    FURY

    Then the bill will be overturned, the senators hangs and castrated, and the world will be at peace once more.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:15 No.21115154
    >>21115135
    >>21115140
    it's basic online IP protection enforcement
    shut down sites that link to infringing sites
    oh shit my blog links to ddl files and torrent aggregators are going away, boohoo

    typical scaremongering
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:16 No.21115165
    >>21115135
    Please go look up the definition of counterfeit.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:17 No.21115170
    >>21115145
    no, youtube stays online because youtube is a net earner for Google, thus Google will implement new stricter policy regarding IP infringement
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:17 No.21115172
    >>21115154
    Except the legal terms make it impossible to run any site that accepts user generated content and rights holders have a history of making bogus complaints.

    I.e. Warner brothers admitting they DMCA'd a shitload of files they didn't have rights to on Hotfile
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:17 No.21115173
    >>21115154
    Say goodbye to Youtube and Facebook, and 4chan, you illiterate cunt.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:17 No.21115176
    >>21115170
    >youtube is a net earner for Google
    Uh, no. Wrong. Site is still a money loser.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:19 No.21115184
    >>21115073
    Everyone, come to holland!! We have weed. Fly high.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:19 No.21115185
    >>21115176
    wrong, youtube started making a profit last year, and that's despite record payouts to channel owners.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:20 No.21115194
    >>21115170
    >stricter policy regarding IP infringement

    You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:22 No.21115216
    >>21115184
    No, fuck you. I wrote that post because I'm considering moving despite living in the Netherlands. How many billions did we give to Greece again? The better half of the weed recently became illegal. We're in the EU. Lolicon is banned here.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:23 No.21115220
    >>21115170
    >stricter IP infringement policy

    Which is why it will cause the common man to flip shit. 90% of teh shit on Youtube is just stolen from something else and began with 'RAVENDARKBLADE95 PRODUCTIONS' in the opening. People copy and paste that Fair Use act into their comments just to show that they are doing this without breaking the law.

    Start banning and removing all that content? Nah. It shits too close to home to work. Some bushwack shit that the average Joe doesn't even know was altered months later on a site he never visits might fly if they were pretty lax about how they went around enforcing the bill. Go ahead and violently and unfairly demonstrate its true power to infringe upon the assumed rights of your constituents on their favorite time wasting site and you got problems.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:25 No.21115229
    >>21115220
    youtube will finally have some original shit? hot damn
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:26 No.21115233
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    MURRKA

    EVIL FAR LEFT SOCIALIST TERRORIST MUSLIMS WANNA TAKE AWAY MY FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM, BETTER CLUSTER-BOMB CIVILIAN VILLAGES AND PASS THE PATRIOT ACT

    THE GUYS AT OWS ARE JUST LAZY AND NEED TO GET A JOB A MCDONALDS AMIRIRITE?

    NUKE THEIR ASS, TAKE THEIR GAS
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:27 No.21115238
    no where, I will just blow some shit up
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:28 No.21115245
    If I owned Youtube, I'd simply block all American IPs and keep on going with business. That'll cause a big enough riot to get this changed back to the way it was (if it passes)

    >>21115229
    >Implying people will start making original content, and don't make it already aside from an ending credits song.
    You're a fucking idiot broski.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:30 No.21115253
    >>21115073
    Malaysia: food is pretty much cheap and environment is good, good place to live. but not a good place for education and internet
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:31 No.21115255
    >>21115253
    >but not a good place for education and internet
    Explain?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:31 No.21115257
    why are you fags suddenly scared about censorship?

    China has censorship, and look at its economy. People are getting rich and mostly happy there. And that's with political and ideological censorship instead of the proposed entertainment censorship here in the USA. You'll still have free speech to criticize the government all you want.

    maybe if you faggots didn't pirate your games and movies, this wouldn't have happened.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:32 No.21115263
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    >Implying this will ever pass
    Every time something like this is brought up, you all shit yourselves.

    Lets say it does pass, who the fuck gives a shit? Laws are not real, you can do whatever you want anyways if you don't get caught. Everyone does it, and no one will give a shit.
    How the fuck will they even enforce this too?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:32 No.21115264
    >>21115245
    >American company
    >blocking America
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:33 No.21115266
    >>21115257
    You're wrong on so many levels, it's not even funny anymore.

    People in china ARE NOT happy. They're emotionless puppets and all realized they're one in a few billion and don't matter.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:33 No.21115267
    >>21115049
    fuck yes russia, here I come
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:33 No.21115268
    >>21115257
    >Defending a bill you obviously haven't read.
    There's some classy people in this thread.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:33 No.21115269
    Probably to israel. except for the sandniggers and jews fighting each other, it's a cool country and internets is plentiful.

    Or to australia but I can' stand that fucking accent.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:35 No.21115284
    >>21115266
    China was never really a country of the people to begin with since its inception but holy fuck now?

    I don't want to send my doll hairs to starving nigger babies in Afrika who are just going to die of AIDs in a few years anyways. I want to send banned porn and Apple pie to random Chinese citizens. They.... they really need our support more.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:35 No.21115285
    >>21115266
    People on 4chan love China more than the USA
    >hurr engineers running the country
    >hurr booming economy
    >hurr china strong

    why are you suddenly going against the grain here?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:37 No.21115295
    >>21115255
    the government loves toying around with with education system, like when they decide to teach science and math in english 5or 6 years ago, this year they switch it back to malay language. And the internet here is more expensive compared to the neighboring country such as Thailand.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:37 No.21115298
    >>21115266
    And you think you're significant, or that it's important to be significant in the first place? Grow up, kid.
    >> DarkTrip !nNThBA7CKU 11/16/11(Wed)08:37 No.21115299
    >>21115285
    >because loving a country mean you are automatically 100% behind it's laws and internet regulations herpa derpa
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:37 No.21115300
    >>21115285
    Since when do you speak for the entirety of 4chan? China is a shithole leeching of Taiwan. Taiwan independence, best day of my life.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:39 No.21115307
    >>21115145
    Youtube doesn't fit the definition for a site that's "dedicated to theft of US property"

    this will shut down all the ddl blogs and hosts, and the torrent aggregators
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:39 No.21115314
    >>21115257
    ya, we all know there is only one way to punish people who make copies of digital media.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl9y3SIPt7o

    Yep, beat them fucking senseless.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:40 No.21115319
    >>21115307
    Click on more than 5 Youtube videos without finding some sort of copyright infringement. It's literally impossible, and Youtube does nothing about it unless contacted by the company being infringed.

    It's not just fear mongering, you idiot. It's fact.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:40 No.21115323
    >>21115307
    It doesn't have to to be subject to take down by SOPA.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:40 No.21115325
    >>21114877
    >Obviously has not been to 'murrica. Portion sizes are generally bigger in Europe

    LOL no.

    I never even managed to finish a meal in America.
    The average LA meal is easily 50% more than the biggest meals you get here in Amsterdam.

    Plus you get unlimited sugary drink refills.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:41 No.21115332
    >>21115295
    Classes in English only sounds good to me. And expensive internet isn't that bad.

    What about censorship? Is your government scary like the ones in the West?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:41 No.21115334
    >>21115299
    >patriotic American talks about his homeland
    >"herp derp you must be a fascist redneck republican fuck you I hope you die"

    >talk about how great China is
    >"loving a country doesn't mean you are automatically 100% behind it's laws and internet regulations"

    why so double standard 4chan?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:42 No.21115338
    >>21115269
    Enjoy getting bombed by Egypt and Iran.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:42 No.21115342
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    >>21115325
    Oh god, you have no idea what you're talking about.

    Everything in the US is super size.

    Including the people.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:43 No.21115348
    That feel when you are colombian.
    Not least than one month ago our congress rejected some anit-piracy bill. Feels good man.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:43 No.21115352
    Why are Germany and the UK fatter than USA now?

    Explain that urop.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:43 No.21115355
    >>21115342
    I'm American (New Yorker) and I just threw up in my mouth a little. What the fuck, Texas.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:44 No.21115361
    >>21115355
    >new york

    I just threw up in my mouth a little.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:44 No.21115362
    Serious question:
    How would SOPA affect 4chan?

    This is not a piracy site.
    In fact: users are actively encouraged to deliver ORIGINAL CONTENT.

    I think the most that can happen is mods will have to remove some porn and perhaps some non-original content.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:45 No.21115367
    >>21115319
    did you read the definitions?

    -offers its service in a manner than enables and facilitates ip infringement
    -deliberately masking a high ratio of infringement

    youtube has ToS and actively patrols itself to take down infringing content, and bans abusers. sites that don't do this would fall into the enforcement category, i.e. bloggers and torrent sites
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:45 No.21115370
    >>21115355
    >>21115361
    what a bunch of children

    you still identify with your state?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:45 No.21115371
    Where can I view loli and guro in peace?...
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:45 No.21115372
    >>21115361
    >not new york
    I just threw up in my mouth a little

    Also for non-US residents, there's a whole state north of NYC. It's actually pretty incredible and diverse.
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    >>21115352
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:46 No.21115378
    >>21115372
    ... and not any better than any other state
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:46 No.21115380
    >>21115370
    The US is so huge and varied that most people still do identify by home state. If you asked me what I was a citizen of , I'd say the US. However, state is important to identity.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:46 No.21115381
    >>21115373
    >chart from 2001
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:47 No.21115384
    >>21115380
    >state is important to identity
    no
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:47 No.21115386
    >>21115373
    >: Percentage of total population who have a BMI (body mass index) greater than 30 Kg/sq.meters (Data for Australia, Austria and Portugal is from 2002. All other data is from 2003).
    Let's try with non-ancient data, please. Results may still be in the same order, but that's a shit dataset due to age.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:47 No.21115388
    >>21115352
    Ask australia while you're at it. The surpassed the US a long time ago.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:47 No.21115390
    >being white and living in new york

    LOL I HOPE NOT
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:47 No.21115392
    >>21115384
    There are major cultural differences between states and even areas of states. It's not one big homogenous country.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:48 No.21115395
    >>21115295

    Malaysia's a nice country. Its nature is jaw droppingly beautiful and its reasonably developed, but its run by muslims. Moderate muslims, but still muslims.
    and that means most forms are fun are banned, discouraged or heavily taxed.

    Thailand is a better choice. Its less developed (tho not dirt poor, they do OK) but has the funnest, most friendly and relaxed culture in the world.
    Plus its got a massive expat community in bangkok who are great - if somewhat crazy. (steer clear of the middle aged american sex tourists)
    A constant stream of adventurous, hot young westerners coming thru in the form of backpackers and workers.

    Its just the funnest place on earth.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:48 No.21115397
    >>21115332
    stuff like this?
    http://www.bolehvpn.net/blog/2011/06/malaysian-communications-and-multimedia-commission-blocks-10-fi
    le-sharing-sites/
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:48 No.21115399
    >>21115392
    your state is not important to your identity no matter how different they are to each other

    can you not see that that is another foolish form of patriotism?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:49 No.21115404
    I sincerely hope this bill passes. Then I won't have to worry about assholes stealing my music, art, games or books anymore without paying in some way.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:49 No.21115407
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    Europeans - They literally eat shit
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:50 No.21115410
    >>21115404

    YOU JUST SPOKE ABOUT ILLEGALLY OBTAINING MUSIC, ART, GAMES AND BOOKS.

    YOUR POST SHOULD BE DELETED AND YOU WILL BE FINED FOR MENTIONING PIRACY AGAIN.

    DO YOU WANT TO INSPIRE SOMEONE TO COMMIT THEFT?

    CONSIDER YOUR WORDS MORE CAREFULLY NEXT TIME CITIZEN.
    >> jack !!v5sg1piOcEl 11/16/11(Wed)08:50 No.21115415
    >>21115410
    BRING OUT THE CANES
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:51 No.21115420
    >>21115407
    >australia not on that list

    Bueno.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:51 No.21115425
    >>21115399
    >can you not see that that is another foolish form of patriotism
    I don't think that being a new yorker or being from non-NYC New York, etc. makes me a better person. I just reflect the different upbringing I had than I may have had in another state and recognize differences between states.

    In the end we're all American, but there are differences in lifestyle, don't kid yourself.

    In the north, less shit gets fried on the whole, and bacon lard is less used for cooking. These are statistics, not opinions. The reasons for such differences often have cultural roots. Realizing and appreciating this is important.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:51 No.21115426
    >>21115410

    I hope that's how they react. It should be that tough. Everything should be more restricted.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:52 No.21115429
    >>21115352
    America probably raised the bar on what they call obese, to improve the statistics.

    Just like they constantly lower the bar on education to improve highschool graduation scores.

    Show me ONE graph where America isn't more obese than every European country, using OBJECTIVE measurements.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:52 No.21115433
    >>21115420
    How are they supposed to put something that goes off the chart on that list? Or perhaps they aren't on there because they eat rats whole...
    >> !R//////ngo 11/16/11(Wed)08:52 No.21115434
    >>21115395
    Ladyboys
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:52 No.21115441
    >>21115397
    oh and the isp here doesn't let you torrent too. and i have to use VPN to bypass all that
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:53 No.21115444
    >>21115410
    YES I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF YOU PIRATEFAGS GET A POLICE BEATING, IT WOULD MAKE MY DAY.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:53 No.21115445
    >>21115429
    Show me one up-to-date graph where America IS more obese using objective measurements.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:53 No.21115447
    >>21115420
    Yeah, it was so high it would have fucked up the linear scale, so they excluded Australia.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:53 No.21115448
    >>21115426

    >should be more restricted

    STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCUM.

    YOUR LANGUAGE MAY BE LOOSELY INTERPRETED AS INCENDIARY AND A DELIBERATE ATTEMPT TO INVOKE CIVIL DISORDER BY WAY OF ILLEGALLY AMENDING AND MODIFYING THIS NATION'S LAWS.

    YOU ARE A TERRORIST.

    ENJOY YOUR STAY IN GITMO.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:53 No.21115450
    >>21115378
    North Dakota here

    The rest of you are fags and cannot drive in snow for shit, stay out of my state you jobless cunts.

    Love,

    The friendliest people in the Union.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:53 No.21115453
    >>21115426

    whod you vote for?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:53 No.21115454
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    >2011
    >not living in a Commonwealth country
    >Not living in Australia
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:54 No.21115458
    >>21115429

    http://www.malehealth.co.uk/weight/18962-now-were-fatter-americans

    11 European countries fatter than America
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:54 No.21115462
    >>21115407
    Natural foods and fresh vegetables -> rodents might have done their thing on it.

    Chemicals and highly processed foods -> clean.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:54 No.21115463
    >>21115448

    That's how it should be. Maybe we wouldn't have as many retard thieves.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:54 No.21115464
    >>21115397
    Yep, that's bad enough. Are your neighboring countries any good? Philippines perhaps?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:54 No.21115465
    >>21115458
    oh god fuck this world
    >> jack !!v5sg1piOcEl 11/16/11(Wed)08:55 No.21115470
    >>21115462
    or you know... clean food -> clean
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:56 No.21115477
    >>21115445
    American here, take a look at the 2010 WHO data. At either 25 or 30 being defined as obese (BMI), Americans still beat the shit out of everyone else.

    It's because we have so many shitty calories that are cheap.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:56 No.21115480
    >>21114861
    We have the same problem here with ACTA and whatnot.

    Also, if America accept this shit, tons of other countries will eventually jump in the bandwagon and it'll suck.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:56 No.21115481
    >>21115434

    ladyboys are an excellent example of why thai culture is so awesome

    some dudes want to be women
    as long as they're not hurting anyone, no-one cares
    (tho parents usually facepalm because it means no grandkids)
    but its not like in the west where its some politically correct untouchable topic
    thais will make all sorts of hilarious and pretty harsh jokes about ladyboys, including the ladyboys themselves
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:56 No.21115483
    >>21115453

    Obama, what's it to you?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:56 No.21115486
    >>21115348
    Isn't it full of poverty and a regime, though?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:57 No.21115488
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    All you anti america fags should move to England, i hear that you can marry each oter over there
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:57 No.21115490
    >>21115458
    >Figures are collected in different ways in different countries

    Like I said: Americans just changed the way they measure to tweak the statistics.

    Also:
    >bloke
    You know know your source is utter crap.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:57 No.21115491
    >>21115462
    >He still thinks the chemicals they use are bad for you
    Why the fuck are you still mentally living in the 70s? Enjoy your fresh rat shit.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:57 No.21115493
    >>21115395
    Thailand is shit.
    It's a borderline dictatorship with a massive crime and HIV rate. Not to mention the horrible healthcare, low pay, feral dogs, and deadly diseases.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:57 No.21115494
    >>21115486
    drug cartels run this shit
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:57 No.21115495
    >>21115477
    here's a link

    https://apps.who.int/infobase/Comparisons.aspx?l=&NodeVal=WGIE_BMI_5_cd.0704&DO=1&DDLReg
    =ALL&DDLSex=1&DDLAgeGrp=15-100&DDLYear=2010&DDLMethod=INTMDCTM&DDLCateNum=6&
    TxtBxCtmNum=20%2c35%2c50%2c65%2c80&CBLC1=ON&CBLC3=ON&CBLC4=ON&CBLC6=ON&CBLC8=ON&
    amp;CBLC10=ON&DDLMapsize=800x480&DDLMapLabels=none&DDLTmpRangBK=0&DDLTmpColor=-33423
    88
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:57 No.21115496
    >>21115342
    >fairs
    Like no one goes to fairs anymore. The food and sizes there are for novelty. And here in the US, we know how to utilize our refrigerators.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:58 No.21115498
    >>21115362
    Don't worry, moot is in the Jew circle so he'll make sure this shit stays.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:58 No.21115499
    >>21115490
    Yeah the U.K. deliberately changed the methods to put themselves higher up than other countries.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:58 No.21115500
    >>21115483
    Anyone else miss that Sax jazz playing, horny frolicking, smooth as silk fucker Clinton?

    We honestly haven't had a good president since then ._.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:58 No.21115502
    >>21115450
    Dear north dakota

    I am coming to your nice state to work in your booming oil industry.

    Love, Massachusetts.


    P.S. Maine keeps telling us we can't drive, I hope you're nicer than maine.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:58 No.21115506
    >>21115490
    >that website said America isn't the worst in everything like it is in my imagination
    >this information must be faked and made up
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:58 No.21115507
    >>21115495 here
    If you're using 4chan linkify in Firefox, hold control + SHIFT + CLICK to fix the link (it'll add the next line to the first). You may have to do it a few times with a link that long though.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)08:59 No.21115514
    >>21115500
    Clinton was much more charismatic than Obama.

    Obama was a talker but he's lost it completely.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:00 No.21115516
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    >>21115502
    FUCK YOU YOU OILY CUNT ASS PROLAPSED NO JOB HAVING BALL SUCKING FAGGOT

    LEAVE MY CITY ALONG YOU ARE RUINING EVERYTHING FUCKING GODAMMIT I HAVE NOT HATED ANYTHING AS MUCH AS I HATE THE SHIT PLUGGING BAKKEN OIL RESERVE FUCK I'D RATHER PAY $5 A GALLON THAT HAVE THIS SHIT SUCKED OUT OF THE EARTH I HATE YOU FAGGOTS SO MUCH
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:00 No.21115518
    >>21115481
    >but its not like in the west where its some politically correct untouchable topic

    America+Greece =/= "The West"

    Transgenders are perfectly accepted in most of Western Europe.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:00 No.21115521
    >>21115514
    I voted for Obama due to his talking, I'll admit, but people act like fucking McCain and his hockey slut could've done better. The fucker literally makes the same facial expressions Bush did.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:01 No.21115533
    >>21115488
    Civil partnerships are not gay marriage.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:01 No.21115534
    >>21115521
    Modern presidential candidates suck, IMO.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:01 No.21115535
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    AMERICA STRONG
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:01 No.21115538
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    >>21115516
    Oh and bring a sweater, it started snowing yesterday.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:02 No.21115543
    >>21115534
    Always the better of two evils.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:02 No.21115547
    >>21115518

    That's why Western Europe is a shithole.

    Fucking fags like you should be put down. You're an abomination against the natural order and no one likes you.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:02 No.21115550
    >>21115521
    >the other guys are worse, so I must support these guys here

    why doesn't this logic fly for you guys when we have USA vs China debates? everyone's rooting for China, yet we all know it's far worse in everything except economic growth.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:03 No.21115552
    >>21115502
    Dear MA.
    Nobody likes massholes.

    Love NH
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:03 No.21115553
    >>21115507
    >If you're using 4chan linkify in Firefox, hold control + SHIFT + CLICK to fix the link

    Without shitty plugins you can just highlight, right-click, open link (in new tab).
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:03 No.21115554
    >>21115534
    Ron Paul does not suck. He wants to fix the suck.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:03 No.21115558
    >>21115550
    That was my first comment in this entire thread so I don't know who you're talking to.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:03 No.21115561
    feels good living in Sweden.

    Swedens government is actualy sponsring the Torproject and is supporting internet activism.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:04 No.21115566
    >>21115518

    i dont think you understand what i was saying

    in the west there are transgender people and its acceptable (in the civilized countries, anyway)
    but its still a very sensitive subject and no-one is allowed to make public jokes about it

    in thailand, ladyboys, like everything else, are fair game for jokes and shit
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:04 No.21115567
    >>21115493
    >HIV
    >Not to mention
    >deadly diseases
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:04 No.21115570
    >>21115554
    Ron Paul contradicts himself in every single video I've ever seen. I agree with him in some, then in others he's just another religious nutbag with a natural talent of avoiding the question.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:04 No.21115576
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    >>21115407
    That chart looks legit.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:05 No.21115578
    >>21115570
    he's religious but most certainly not a nutbag

    why do you care where he gets his sense of human decency from?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:05 No.21115585
    >>21115561
    I thought TPB had to move from Sweden because they started cracking down on laws over there
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:05 No.21115588
    Folks, why doesn't someone make a thread on >>>/int/

    Say you're an Americunt who wants to move because of the censorship among many reasons, then link here.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:05 No.21115594
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    >>21115407
    >2.3kg of rat excrement ingested per year
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:06 No.21115597
    >>21115547
    I'm no transgender myself.

    I just enjoy living in a free country, something all Americans should try one day.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:06 No.21115600
    >>21115552
    Dear NH,

    Living free or dying includes arresting any driver where a sober <21 year old a a sober 21+ year old are in the same car with alcohol in unopened containers.

    The driver will be arrested whether or not they are the individual below 21.

    Love,
    NY
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:07 No.21115605
    >>21115597
    >he thinks his country is any freer than the next "free" country

    some day you will wake up, child
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:07 No.21115607
    >>21115578
    That's not the issue at hand. The issue is whether he's going to make his sense of human decency the only way it should be, which is something religious people are notorious for trying to do. In a few of his speeches, he stated that due to his religious views, certain things should be a certain way. That is not how this country should be run.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:07 No.21115609
    >>21115554
    Racist nutbag with crazy proposals, not to mention completely unelectable.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:07 No.21115611
    >>21115407
    >>21115594
    Obvious shop is obvious
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:07 No.21115613
    >>21115521

    Actually I believe McCain would have done the exact same shit obama is doing, and the exact same shit Bush and Clinton WERE doing.

    Vote establishment and you will get it the fact that they have a R or a D in front of their name when you see them on CNN doesnt determine if they are friend or foe. Almost all of them are foes.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:07 No.21115616
    >>21115609
    oh you troll me sir 10/10 I mad etc.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:07 No.21115619
    I'd love to suck off a hot Thaiwanese ladyboy.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:08 No.21115620
    >>21115609
    >racist

    You say that like it's a bad thing
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:08 No.21115628
    >>21115611
    European here. Actually it's a true graph, we use rodent excrement as a condiment. It's the poor Euro's truffle. All true.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:09 No.21115644
    >>21115628
    Germany here. I confirm this.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:10 No.21115647
    >>21115547

    heh
    its funny that americans and muslims hate each other so much
    they actually have pretty similar visions of a perfect society
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:10 No.21115648
    >>21115605
    I never said my country is more free than other free countries.

    I just said America isn't free, and this new law proves it once again.

    But I've insulted your might ruler Obama, so I know you will have to step up to defend him now...
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:10 No.21115653
    >>21115600
    that isnt the law, and if the cop told you otherwise you should drawn on him. Death is not the worst of evils.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:10 No.21115654
    >>21115647
    Most people do. Surprise, surprise.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:11 No.21115659
    >>21115566
    I think it's not that it's a taboo here, it's just something that's not part of our culture. I, for one, can't even imagine what such a joke would be like.

    So yeah, crack us up.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:11 No.21115665
    >>21115648
    If America isn't free than no country truly is and I have no affiliation with an aforementioned country in this thread.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:11 No.21115672
    >>21115648
    Oh child, one day you will grow up.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:12 No.21115677
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    >>21115647

    Why does urop import so many Muslims then?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:12 No.21115678
    >shitty thread
    >only 1 sage
    fuck this place
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:12 No.21115681
    >>21115653
    A fellow frat member (under 21, driver) was arrested because I picked up beer. Both of us were sober, alcohol containers (few cases of cheap shit) were all closed.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:12 No.21115683
    >>21115648
    AFAIK, Obama was hated in the US before he was in Yurop, because the European media kept sketching wrong images.

    Don't talk about shit you know nothing about.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:13 No.21115703
    >>21115073
    > and I think there's racism (could someone confirm?).

    There IS, but I don't think there are more than in other countries. Don't be a dick, and you will get along with norwegians.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:14 No.21115705
    >>21115665
    What does the freedom in the USA have to do with the freedom in other countries?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:14 No.21115709
    What a shit thread.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:14 No.21115712
    >>21115705

    America invented freedom

    you can't have freedom without America
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:15 No.21115720
    ITT: Grass is greener.
    There is no perfect country, try and fix your own before giving up and moving.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:15 No.21115721
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    The DPRK
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:16 No.21115734
    >>21115681
    Also, he was arrested and charged under
    http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XIII/179/179-10.htm

    Which has a liberal definition of what "possesion" constitutes
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:16 No.21115738
    >>21115705
    Because no country is truly free. Somebody was claiming his country was any freer than America.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:17 No.21115749
    >>21115677

    because geography, you assclown
    they're right next door and they keep wanting to cross the border

    why does america import so many mexicans?
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:17 No.21115751
    >ITT people who don't know shit and just talk shit
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:18 No.21115761
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    I am sorry for you American guys.
    Most of you may be dumb fucks but no one deserves this shit.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:18 No.21115763
    >>21115749
    More like "why does Mexico leak so many mexicans?"
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:18 No.21115764
    >>21115681
    im not telling your that your friend wasnt arrested, I'm telling you that that isnt the law as long as it was in your possession.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:18 No.21115767
    >>21115749

    We don't.

    But Europe on the other hand wants to be "culturally enriched"

    Sweden plans to increase its population form 10 million to 40 million through migration.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:19 No.21115771
    >>21115761
    Thank you for your sympathy.
    >> Anonymous 11/16/11(Wed)09:19 No.21115776
    >>21115751

    >people who are just bored of deskterp and ratemybuild threads and are talking shit

    fixd



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