His fried chicken recipe was awesome.

yet AI still blows balls. can't even chat like a retarded first grader,

>Dennis Ritchie
>John McCarthy

Two computer visionaries have died in the last month. Let's hope there's not a third.

Is this the guy that used to run Microsoft?

>>20764544
I DON'T WANT KNUTH TO DIE
PLEASE NO
KILL RMS INSTEAD

>>20764513

Sticky please

RMS lives like a hobo the winter season should finish him off

>>20764560

STICKY THIS

>>20764551
>>20764551
He is the inventor of Lisp

>>20764611

He invented a speech impediment ?

>>20764649
Fuck you.

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
BRB getin' some KFC

>>20764669

Shall I bend over big boy? talk dirty to me with your lisp

>>20764544

John McCarthy was the third.

He will be missed.

>>20764513
>>20764551
>>20764649

>>20764693
No, he was the second death of people that actually mattered.

That faggot Jobs is not one of them.

>>20764713

Jobs did more than Colonel sanders though

Goodnight, Sweet Prince.

1947 - 2011

tfw RMS is next!

>>20764713
steve jobs got people interested in consumer electronics. the next great may be inspired by apple.

>>20764744
No, he got them interested in believing that electronics were status symbols.

He's a useless fuck that history would be better off forgetting.

>>20764740

Good hes a fucking pedo anyway

>>20764740

can't take long with all the travel he makes

>>20764732
recepie, please.

>>20764781

Chicken foreskin

>>20764499
>the next great may be inspired by apple.

The next great art major faggots, maybe.

Douglas Carl Engelbart (born January 30, 1925)
Marvin Lee Minsky (born August 9, 1927)
Frederick Phillips Brooks, Jr. (born April 19, 1931)
Donald Ervin Knuth (born January 10, 1938)
Ivan Edward Sutherland (born May 16, 1938)
Alan Curtis Kay (born May 17, 1940)
Kenneth Lane Thompson (born February 4, 1943)
Vinton Gray "Vint" Cerf (born June 23, 1943)

>>20764800
>Art major
>Great

Pick one.

>>20764740
LISP suck... But he was a great ComSci and made good contributions to the Ai realm.

RIP

>>20764812
yeah, all those guys are fucking old

>TFW they never reached singularity

>>20764762
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>>20764762

picture rms seducing mexican and french boys

LAUGH

Did Dennis Ritchie ever invent a programming language rms said was the most powerful? Didn't think so.

>>20764836
lisp doesn't suck you just can't understand its greatness

Sticky please.

>>20764882
nigga please

>>20764845

>TFW they never reached singularity

Judging by the kind of people who are first in line to join the glorious machine consciousness master race...I don't think they're really missing out.

>>20764845

i have a colony of rabbits in the garden
are they singularity?

Wow. I was going to learn C and recently I've been considering learning Lisp.

What a fucked up coincidence. If I learn Java will Oracle go bankrupt? That'd be nice.

>>20764875
>>20764875
>>20764875
>>20764875

People on /g/ actually knew who John McCarthy was?! There is hope for you yet...

Anyway, READ THIS STORY:
http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/robotandbaby/robotandbaby.html

>>20764957
how bout BASIC?

>>20764957
Does Lisp make a good partner to C?

>>20765005
You're about six years too late to reply to >>20764, Anon-sama.

>>20765031
If there are only two languages you ever learn, they should be C and Lisp.

(Go away assembly pony, it's machine-dependent).

>>20765024
>>20765036
you are about less than one minute late fatso.

>>20765052
What dialect?

I came as soon as I heard.

:(

>>20765052

Assembly is for true wizards.

Go look up the demo scene awards.

http://awards.scene.org/index.php

http://awards.scene.org/awards.php

>>20765145
of course you did you sick fuck!

>>20765145
Prof. Oak?

SINGULARITY WILL KILL US ALL

>>20765105
I'm going to say Scheme because I'm biased towards SICP and Scheme is what most projects I have encountered use. Though I have heard good things about Common Lisp too.

>>20765209

KURZWEIL ISN'T DEAD. WE NEED TO KILL HIM BEFORE THE SINGULARITY.

;_;
don't die thread

Sticky this.

C'mon, sticky this thread.

Sticky, plox.

sticky?

>>20764985
>Java
>elegantly made pointer-safe
Maybe under the hood, but HURR EVERYTHING IS A POINTER XD is harmful as fuck.

SOMEONE EMAIL STALLMAN ABOUT THIS

Shine on !

dammit now only Ringo is left

Please sticky !

>>20765483

wat

Oh :-(
Sad day.

>>20765510
Ringo Knuth, obviously.

TeX version π draws ever closer...

Rest in peace fucking genius.

>>20765483
>83

Ringo Starr?

Thread is now about deciding who was each Beatle. I think we can all agree that Jobs was Lennon.

>>20765621
I agree.

Goodnight Kenny Rogers.

Rest in Peace.

((((((((((your shitty language wont be missed))))))))))

Now who is going to die, I'm betting Niklaus Wirth.

Trifecta completed?


...or will there be one more?

Posting, sticky, etc.

>>20766599
Knuth. The man is showing his age. At his talks over the past few years he often forgets what he's talking about or where he is.

>>20766611
Knuth would make sense also, he did have cancer before.

>2 important people die within 2 weeks of each other
why is this happening?!

>>20766643
I don't know about this guy but Jobs had cancer.

>>20766638
Oh Jordan, you silly troll.
This is John McCarthy. He created Lisp and coined the term `artificial intelligence'.

http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/future/index.html
He will never find out if his predictions came true ;_;

oh look,
i'm stickied...

I remember being a kid and being given a stack of Scientific Americans and Lisp was featured in an article. I'm not sure if it was in Mathemagical Recreations or not, because it was so long ago (we're talking 70s, here, folks).

>>20766661
i said important people.

>>20764709
>filename Demi Lovato Laughing.jpg

thats not demi, thats selena

>>20766690
ur old enough to be my grandad lol O.o

>>20766730

So your mom had you when she was 16?

This sticky better not be taken down three days later so it can make room for an attention whore.

>>20764513
>>20764551
>>20764732

ohpe, another RIP sticky. Calling all trolls

>>20766730

>grandma born in 1968

Average age of 14.3, eh? Kids having kids. Also, underage ban.

I dont wish RMS was dead, I just wish he went away.

>>20766799

RMS has more integrity in his little finger than you ever have to hope in your entire body.

Rest in Parentheses.

>>20766805
Quite a large implication.

RIP KERNEL SANDERS

WE WILL LOVE YOU CHICKEN.

>>20766693

You callin' me oblivious

You make the best chicken.

RIP, KFC for life.

>>20766821
Well, think about it, do you have the will to use only free software and hardware for 30 years? He's been a huge a part of the modern technological revolution yet misses out on much of it by sticking to his principles.

>>20766838
I thought 4chan had a rule against mods revealing themselves.

>>20766866
That's janitors.

>mods caring about people who actually contributed to computing
Well, first Ritchie, and now this.

Thanks, mods.

PLEASE TELL ME TORVALDS IS STILL FINE

dropping like flies now.

RIP

>>20766883
>some guy that made lisp or linux colonels dies
>linux colonels
>colonels

>>20766903

He's fine.

I wouldn't miss ESR though. What did he ever do besides rant?

I'd be a lot more broken up if Jon Maddog Hall left us.

>>20766883

>colonels

First Dennis Ritchie, now John. Shit. :(

Posting in dead computer visionary thread for third time this month.

McCartney, godspeed you magnificent bastard

>>20766981
> I only ever sucked a dick once my whole life

CODE-ZOMBIE SUCKS DICKS

He would have wanted me to mourn the loss with his very own fried chicken

>>20766981
> I only ever sucked a dick once my whole life
y'know bill, that's something I would probably keep to myself

>>20766730
My mom was born in 1961 :V

>>20766981
Once a faggot, always a faggot.

>>20766922
Maddog is... a faggot with a Tux tattoo.

That's it.

>>20766922
>I wouldn't miss ESR though. What did he ever do besides rant?
He's like RMS, but a bit... cooler, perhaps?

>>20766979
NEXT IS KNUTH, LOOK HOW OLD HE IS
THAT DAY, I WILL WEEP LIKE A BITCH

>>20767037

rms is #swag and you know it.

>jobs dies
>5000 replies
>ritchie dies
>~500 replies
>mccarthy dies
>~100 replies
Fuck this gay earth.

I'm fed up of you, /g/.

>>20767051
Sorry if I'm being a faggot, but what the fuck is this "swag" thing?

Non murrikan, by the way.

>>20766883
>linux colonels

>>20767061
>telling a neckbeard to stop being a neckbeard
FUCK YOU ESR, FUCK YOU.

>>20767053
Ritchie thread had over 1000. Steve Jobs had a fuck load of replies because everyone on 4chan was posting.

It was still bullshit how it lasted half the time Job's sticky did.

>>20767060
It's the hip way to say "cool". Usually refers to clothes and other items.

>>20767071
What the fuck are you talking about, Jordan?

Do you get paid for contributing to LaTeX?

>>20767027
lol

so wrong, nothing wrong with healthy experimentation, I've had sex with 3 women simultaneously, on more than one occasion, I've had full blown orgy's in Thailand back in my Navy days.
Don't tell me what my sexuality is virgin.

Also RIP John McCarthy, sorry to disrespect your sticky!

>>20764499
PROPER TAIL RECURSION

Thank god, I thought it said Paul McCarthy at first.

>>20767087
Oh well, thanks.

>>20767029

>He forgets that Hall is the only other person besides Linus who could take over the kernel should Linus get hit by a cross-town bus.

Herp.

>>20767072
professor sent this email to us when he died:

"Hey guys,

"A lot of people asked me my opinion about Steve Jobs. There's a bit of a misconception that Steve was some sort of magician that created all these amazing technologies single-handedly. Rather the truth is that Steve was the marketing/business genius and Apple's technologies come from its thousands of dedicated engineers that bring the entire vision together. However, Steve was a very hands-on CEO and laid out his "grand vision" plus ensured products were perfect before release which made Apple very successful. Though brilliant and an amazing businessman, most people in my field including myself do not really see him as a literal "technology innovator". Rather that title is reserved for people who create the technology with their own two hands.

"A few days ago, the creator of the C language and co-creator of UNIX, Dennis Ritchie, died. Note that C++ is a superset of C and we are also inadvertently learning C. Those two innovations of C and UNIX are so important in computing that I cannot even begin to imagine what computing would be like today without it. Even if Apple and Steve were not around, we'd still have computers...without Dennis though, I doubt we'd have computers and the Internet. Though Ritchie is highly honored in the field of computing, the irony is that most of the world was not even aware of his passing even though he had a greater effect than Jobs on technology as we know it today."

>>20767100
lol

>>20767116
fuck this gay earth.

>>20767116
Your professor is a cool guy.

>>20767116
Suck your professor's dick. He deserves it.

Fuck NO.

What a fucking shitty month this is.

>>20767116
True bro.

>>20767116
Your professor sounds nice.

There are already more articles about John McCarthy on Google News than there was about Dennis Richie the after his death was announced, and McCarthy isn't nearly is well-known.

Seems like Steve Jobs death and actually sparked in interest in the lives of computer scientists.

Also, you ever notice how when somebody dies, their stagnant Wikipiedia page suddenly has more edits than it's gotten in the last three years?

As far back as the mid-60s, chess was called the “Drosophila of artificial intelligence” — a reference to the fruit flies biologists used to uncover the secrets of genetics — and McCarthy believed his successors in AI research had taken the analogy too far. “Computer chess has developed much as genetics might have if the geneticists had concentrated their efforts starting in 1910 on breeding racing Drosophila,” McCarthy wrote following Deep Blue’s win. “We would have some science, but mainly we would have very fast fruit flies.”

According Daphne Koller — a professor in the Stanford AI Lab who still carries the torch for McCarthy’s orthodox vision of artificial intelligence — it’s a quote that sums up both McCarthy and his work. “The word that bests describes him is uncompromising,” she tells Wired. “He believed in artificial intelligence in terms of building an artifact that could actually replicate human level intelligence, and because of this, we was very unhappy with a lot AI today, which provides some very useful applications but focuses on machine learning.

>>20767116

Because there should be exactly one necrology sticky thread at any given time.

>>20767238
Shut the fuck up, you useless fairy.

I bet most of you didn't even know who he was until you came to this thread.

>>20767255
>I knew about him before it was cool

>>20767255
Duh he's the found of KFC, who didn't know him?

>>20767116
I don't want to live on this planet anymore. How the hell do people mourn for Jobs but not the man who pioneered CS and OSs as we know them.

>>20767284
This guy made Counter Strike?
That's pretty cool.

>>20767249
Well, humor aside, cs field has my condolences.

>>20767296
I know this is a troll, but the fact that hipsters and self proclaimed "nerds" will actually think this pisses me off to no extent.

rip colonel sanders. u will be missed

>>20767296
You want >>>/v/

RIP lisp guy I never heard of before

reported

I don't know who he is but did anyone else notice the semi-swastikas on his necktie? Please dont tell me /g/ is celebrating a neo nazing or something

>>20767327
When people hear "CS", they think Counter Strike.
Don't try to use some obscure non-Counter Strike abbreviation thing or else people will think you mean Counter Strike.

>>20767368
fuck off back to reddit

>>20767368

>>20767368

Do you know how stupid you are?

You are /this/ stupid.

I feel terrible for laughing so hard at this thread.

RIP

>>20767116
Your professor is a fucking bro.

>>20767385
>Technology board
>Computer Science is obscure
NOPE

>>20767385
>When people hear "CS", they think Counter Strike.
Not me, but I don't associate with children.
And yeah, inb4
>posts on 4chan
>claims not to associate with children

>>20767409
Yeah, no

>>20767433
0/10 reported

>>20767420
Computer Science is something that any self respecting individual will forget after high school.
Counter Strike is something that anybody who ever used the internet ever should know.

>>20767418
>claims C is a subset of c++
>claims c++ kiddies also know C
>bro
Nope

>>20767433
yeah, im going go to go with: trolling.

0/10

>>20767116

Your professor sent you an e-mail when he died? That's pretty legit.

>>20767450
I think you're confusing computer science with that microsoft office/computer technology class you take in high school. Not blaming you though. People can't help if they're born retarded.

I'm glas he's dead

I've checked Wikipedia and that McCarthy guy was a total asshole

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy

>>20767487
Computer Science is a class in high school, but computers aren't actually science. They're just technology.

>>20767468
>>20767443
Oh look, more geeks getting mad nobody knows they're obscure heroes. I'm a law major, do I get mad and say HURR TROLL HOW COULD U NOT KNOW HIM 0/10 DURR everytime some lawyer dies?

>>20767497
s|glas|glad|

>>20767506
If this was a law board, yes.

He shall be remembered, if not for original recipe, than definitely for extra crispy.

RIP Dave Thomas founder of Wendy's.

>>20767506
>>20767503
-graham's number/10
Didn't even smile.

rip the guy who nobody cares about

>>20767503
You know, it'd be alot more hilarious (and sad) that if it wasn't obvious you are trolling. Because the only AP computer science offered in high school deals with primarily algorithms and data structures. If you confuse those with technology your brain must be rotting inside.

surely somebody is mailing RSM right now to ask for his reaction

>>20767572
>primarily algorithms and data structures
That's stuff that computers use apps to do, not humans. Why should I have to learn shit when computers can do it for me?

>>20767586
By your logic, we don't need to learn how to drive cars because cars propel themselves.

/g/ should be called "Dead Programmers Society" from now on.

>>20767506
Yawn, another self-entitled child who knows nothing outside the world of consumerism, completely ignorant of the giants upon whose shoulders he stands.

I know you're trolling, but whatever. Fuck off back to Facebook.

>>20767597
How to drive a computer: turn it on and run a .exe
How to drive a car: use sticks and pedals and shit, and not hit other people
It's very different.

>>20767586
>why do I have to exist? Computers are real therefore they already exist for me.

>>20767615
>turn it on and run a .exe
So, you're browsing this page and replying to my posts telepathically.

>>20767615
>he's trolling by hand when there's scripts that dump copypasta for him

Oh god hilarious, tell me more.

>>20767615
>not hit other people
You're doing it wrong.

>>20767629
>>20767635
Posting on 4chan is like turning on the radio in a car.
You don't need to drive to do it, but it's for entertainment and shit.

>>20767615

>not knowing how to operate a computer
>fucked by viruses, malware, and people who "repair" it for you

>not know how a car works
>fucked by mechanics who see you coming and empty your wallet because "the air in your tires is old"

>>20767598
I was just about to say something to that effect. It's about that time that we're going to see some type of seminal, influential tech thinker/inventor/programmer/designer/engineer go just about every week.

>>20767655
I don't have to know how a computer works. When something goes wrong I DBAN and then reinstall windows xp, problems solved.
Same thing goes for cars.

>>20767672

So you buy a new car every time you need to change the oil?

No, scratch that, you're one of those idiots that never changes the oil, so it turns to sludge, no longer works, and the engine seizes.

>>20767654
You're kinda missing the point; no matter how advanced and autonomous technology has become, they are still soulless, unthinking metal boxes. People will always be necessary to consciously operate them, and within those people, there are some that enjoy learning about how computers work under the hood and engineering them. If all anybody ever cared about was MS Word and Facebook, we'd be at a technological standstill.

>>20767672
Wait hold on a second. You're not saying dban and windows XP just popped out of thin air do you?

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not retarded.

Then your question simplifies to

>Why do I have to learn anything? There are other people who do it for me.

In short you don't have a job and lives in your parents' basement, literally. Otherwise you'd be contradicting yourself.

>>20767692
>we'd be at a technological standstill
What's wrong with that? We already have enough technology, we don't need any more.
People like you are what's wrong with America. You just want to make more stuff for people to buy, and oversaturate consumerism.

>>20767672
You do realize the technology you listed are made by humans right? Compilers haven't gotten to the point where you can just say "make me an operating system".

>>20767709
>We already have enough technology, we don't need any more.

Leave /g/ forever.

>>20767662
>>20767598
All for changing the title of /g/ to "Dead Programmers Society"...

>>20767709
>Implying free software isn't pushing technology forward
>Implying this is consumerism
>Implying it is American

>>20767720
Facebook works fine, we don't need any kind of Facebook 2.0 Reddit 2.0 Web 3.0 bullshit.

>>20767709
Why are people still replying to this troll? He's already admitted that he's confused algorithms with technology.

His argument is essentially "why do people have to go to college, we have computers for everything"

>>20767742
>he goes to Reddit

>>20767748
Are you calling me lazy? I went to college just like everyone else, but instead of getting something stupid like technology, I went with liberal arts.
Right now my mom and I are both working to get my debts paid off, how dare you critize me.

>>20767709
Seriously? Go back to >>>/pol/ if you're going to pull the "money is everything in the world" routine.
Let me know when we can cure diabetes and discover the Higgs Boson.

Now that Colonel Sanders is dead, how long until Colonel Panic dies?

>>20767773
If anyone replies after this post with any degree of sincerity, they're confirmed for fucking retarded.

>>20767780
Are you regretful that you got a useless degree while I have a job?
umad

>>20767773
>liberal arts

lol computers already make liberal arts. haven't you heard of photoshop and microsoft word? lol. enjoy being unemployed while I make 200k a year writing photoshop patches LOL

>>20766820
>Rest in Parentheses

Nice.

Allow me to interject for a minute. What you're referring to as McCarthy, is in fact, Gnu/McCarthy, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus McCarthy. McCarthy is not a person unto itself, but rather just the Colonel.

>>20767821
(rest)

>>20767842

>>20767851
oh u.

>>20767842
oh u.

RIP
BF3

Donald Knuth is next!

>>20764693
McCarthy was third because you count Dennis Ritchie twice.

It took many, many clever men to give us computers and software as it is today. Thanks to them, we got from pure theory to the most outstanding devices mankind ever had in around a decade.

Here's to a man amongst them.

>>20768192
It actually is possible, and it's sad.

Poll for /g/:

As horrible as it maybe, if you had to choose between RMS and Donald Knuth to be the next cs dude who passes away, who would you choose?

>>20768266
RMS.

he contributes nothing. If anything, he holds back free software with his all-or-nothing philosophy and terrible public relations skills.

>>20768266
IDK who donald knuth is, but I love RMS.

>>20768266
Knuth. Then Computer Science can have its epic Unfinished Manuscript (TAOCP #4) to revere. Knuth has cancer..

RIP.

>>20768266

Knuth, not because I like Stallman, but that it's likely Stallman would survive a Nuclear Apocalypse.

>>20768382
light must be terrible with computers

is it me...or does looking at John McCarthy just scream Punchcard

>you will never be a brilliant computer scientist like mccarthy or ritchie

>Steve Jobs dies
>suddenly stickies of dead guys everywhere
Go away -- wow was I really about to sage a sticky?

He's gone to the 11 herbs and spice rack in heaven.

sage

>>20768628

That he was, he was one of the great sages.

>>20768382

You mean like after the nuclear apocalypse there would only be cockroaches and Stallman left?

Yeah, it sounds plausible.

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>>20767072
It was a remarkable stickie with people posting their old C and Unix books. Then for some reason it got replaced by a moot attention whore stickie. What the hell was up with that?

LOL

>>20764499

FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

This year really sucks balls.

>>20767517

"Jobs was a fag." -John McCarthy

He repeated this after Dennis Ritchie while both fondled their Turing awards.

>>20768644
He conjured the spirits of the computer with his spells.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHk42kDwesM

I didn't actually know John McCarthy but I know Lisp and AIs sure as fuck are important.

WHY ARE THEY ALL DYING

RIP

Now I feel bad for not knowing who this guy was

While I dont mean to undermine him what the fuck is with lisp

(+ 2 3) is confusing as fuck when you try to write large equations. (/ (* (+ x y) 7) Z)

What the fuck is that?

Also (< n 50)

Fucking what?

>>20769058
Are you joking? I started learning Scheme like a month ago and I already have the syntax down. It just takes a bit of practice.

>>20764513
ohshit5starpostnigga.jpg

>>20769083
that still doesnt make it less confusing than just 2 + 3

Seriously whats the logic behind doing it that way?

>>20769091
I don't exactly know why he did this, but at a guess, to make it easier to structure programs in a functional way.

>>20769030
everything that is built up, breaks down
but it is strange that all of them are going in a month span
bet Bill Gates and Linus Torvalds are getting good check ups.

>>20769091
It's more organized to have the operator first,
you can do things like

(+ 7 8 9 10 11) which saves you from having redundant binary operators

May he rest in peace.

>>20769058

If you've /ever/ used an HP calculator, it's not confusing at all. It's /exactly/ the same except for the parens and the order. In an HP with RPN, the operators go at the end instead of the beginning, that's all.

It's /very/ simple.

If you are confused, get yourself a 48G or GX used on Ebay and start fucking around with RPN. Lisp's Polish Notation will become clear as day.

>>20769258
>implying infix notation is not best
Useless tier:
PN
RPN

It really seems like the era when computers did computing is dieing along with its titans. Wirth is next, heed my words.

This is fucking Apple ploy don't you see?

Steve Jobs died. Apple needed to find a way to recover. They have to remove EVERYONE from the competition. They have to start by killing off the old ones, to prevent them from spreading the little work they have left in them.

First Ritchie. The most important. He built everything Apple uses. Now without him Apple will take it and claim it forever.

Then Lisp. Logically you think Fortran would have gone first but everyone already hates fortran. Richard Stallman still runs around talking about how epic Lisp is. Apple needs to stop it. They need to kill off everything lisp.

As the above poster said Pascal is left. Then python, javascript, and ect ect all untill C# is left.

Once the inventor of C# is dead, the time will come for Gates and Ballmer to be killed.

Apple will rule us all.

Ready yourself

>>20769349

Douchebag tier: infix notation

Because it's inconsistent. Postfix and prefix notation is not.

Postfix is also /faster/ on a calculator. Learn how to use a stack.

>>20769374

Well, he deserves it for inventing Modula-2.

>>20769479

Considering the structure of Apple computer parallels the Church of Scientology, the idea that Ritchie and McCarthy were "fairgame" murders is suspiciously plausible.

>>20769582
> the structure of Apple computer parallels the Church of Scientology

Really?

>>20769589
Pay him no heed. He's probably a Wintard in league with the World Psychiatric Conspiracy.

/g/ - obituary

Un-sticky please.

>Implying Lisp wasn't horse shit.
Lol'd

May he rest in piece.

But the only big LISP project was Emacs and it's shit.

LISP is total bullshit of a language written with the sole purpose of having a simple compiler, so it could be ported everywhere.

Which it wasn't. Because LISP is shit.

>>20770092

>buttmad over Lisp

Sure sounds like you failed your freshman Lisp course.

Let's break out the sad violin music for you....

>>20770112

How's that that functional programming carrier coming along? Getting big bucks? Finding many jobs? Working on exciting projects? Improving the world? Enlightening the children? Building the future?

There is no syntactic distinction between code and data. I know that Lisp has no semantic distinction between code and data either. I can live with the semantic blurring, but at any point in the program, an object is being used as a function or as a data, and I would like the distinction to be blindingly obvious. So, I really like square brackets, round brackets, curly brackets, any device to tell me what something means.

>>20770128

I just stopped by here to let you know that every Autocad station is a LISP station.

You sure are mad

>>20770148

But that's what comments are for.

>>20770151
It supports AutoLisp for automation, yes. But that doesn't make it a Lisp station by any stretch of the imagination.

>>20770151

So it's good for programming because it's used only by highly-educated non-programmers?

WHAT'S HAPPENING?
IS IT THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE WORLD?

>>20770382
well computign era started its roll on the 70's soo anyone working on that since then spent 40 years on this...
and.. since most people started right then at around 18 years (or 18 in the 80's) important starting computing people have around 50-70 years now..

λ

Requiescat in pace

>>20770640
Moar liek rest in parentheses, amirite?

rip John McCarthy.

>>20767273
I didn't

>>20767440
>posts on 4chan
>claims not to associate with children

toasting in a weekly dead computer guy thread

Well, fuck.

RIP John McCarthy
and
Thank you Mods for the sticky.

He invented robots, fried chicken, and Lisp.

R.I.P.

>>20766690

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamagical_Themas

>>20771306

Thank you, that's the one.

Prof McCarthy wished he had called the discipline Computational Intelligence, rather than AI. However, he said he recognised his choice had probably attracted more people to the subject.

From now on I will call AI, Computational Intelligence.

Posting in sticky.
MODS=FAGS

I don't know who that man was.
But I fell sorry for his family.
I hope he had a nice life.
May he rest in peace.

Fuck sake old people.. Stop dying! Wasting my screen space

>>20768888
THE MOTHER OF ALL QUADS

First Dennis now John...
RIP sweet prince.

no more lisp
Not sure if good or not

>>20767061
>$Date: 2000/09/25 23:49:36 $
what the fuck is up with the jewgold obsession here?

Who contributed more Dennis Ritchie or John McCarthy?

Please don't assume Lisp is only useful for Animation and Graphics, AI, Bioinformatics, B2B and E-Commerce, Data Mining, EDA/Semiconductor applications, Expert Systems, Finance, Intelligent Agents, Knowledge Management, Mechanical CAD, Modeling and Simulation, Natural Language, Optimization, Research, Risk Analysis, Scheduling, Telecom, and Web Authoring just because these are the only things they happened to list. — Kent Pitman

>>20771955

jmc

easily

>Lisp
>2011
what the fuck are you doing. (Seriously not trolling)

>>20772042

Virtually every modern programming language has been influenced by Lisp, directly or indirectly.

>>20772041

>not trolling

Anyone who says this is, in fact, trolling.

Lisp isn’t really a programming language. It’s a consistent system for defining programming languages in general. That is why learning it is difficult– you’re going up into a level abstraction that you never imagined could exist.

Lisp isn't really a language at all. It's more of a mathematical entity. You might say it wasn't invented but discovered. In fact if there is intelligent life in the universe and they have computers I'll bet they have something equivalent to Lisp too.

>>20772065
Many great things were inspired by awful things, just saying.

>>20772088

Every single person in here bitching about Lisp failed his freshman Lisp class.

Go back to Java.

>>20772041
Lisp is a great cornerstone for the languages we use today, but people still using it must really enjoy living in the past.

>>20772092

I will stop using Lisp when modern languages start having homoiconity and macros

>>20772099
most if not all modern languages support macros.

>>20772123

Such as?

inb4 you mention C preprocessor text substitution

They're nothing like Lisp macros, and it's impossible to have a powerful macro system without homoiconity

>>20772158
>>20772099
I'm glad you enjoy living in the past and don't contribute anything of use.

Good on you...

>>20772171
Not him, but stop shitting on this thread. We're trying to give respect to a great man that died.

We should all learn Lisp in his honor. AI is kind of scary tho'.

>>20772229
Because it's okay that all the rest of these zealots go off-topic, right?

It saddens me as much as the next guy, but please come down from your pedestal.

>>20772331
Okay.

>>20772331
>discussing Lisp in a John McCarthy thread
>off topic

>>20770128
I make $200,000/year writing Fibonacci generators and metacircularevaluators.

>>20772380
I didn't say that Lisp was off-topic. I stated that other people went off-topic and me who actually talked about lisp was accused of shitting up the thread.

>>20772611
/g/ has no life. Is it hard to understand?

>>20772611
Hell yeah

Inventor of C dead
Inventor of Lisp dead

That feel when nothing your generation creates will be better ;_;

>>20772726

On the shoulders of giants, etc.

Rest in peace John

>>20772752
>on the shoulders of lisp and c
>better

Nigga they made java...

>>20772828
why is it so hard to understand that Java isn't an easy-to-learn language like Lisp.

>>20772828
http://trends.google.com/trends?q=c+programming,+java+programming,+lisp+programming&date
=all&geo=all&ctab=0&sort=0&sa=N

And another great figure of computing dies.

Man, these are sad weeks...

I really really loved LISP, but I rarely use it nowadays.

Res in peace.

>>20764551
>rms
>computer visionary

hes not a visionary, hes a communist

if anything jobs was the 3rd, yeah he didnot do anything coding wise but cause of him Microsoft implemented a GUI and mouse. and apple did make cool stuff like the ipod/iphone and co founded apple. yeah he wasnt that muchm be hes better then rms

>guy only half of /g/ knows
>gets a pity sticky
336 replies

ahahahahahhahahahahahaha

dear fucking god! why didn't just steve die?

>>20766820
best comment

>>20767216
>>20767116
excellent insights. Totally right about chess programming. That has been the curse of AI: as soon as a tough AI problem is understood (like chess), it simply becomes seen an optimized engineering problem instead of a success of AI.

>>20773001
Get out of /g/, now.

>>20772994

>word salad

You are barely literate. I suggest you find an English teacher pronto.

>>20767116
>I doubt we'd have computers and the Internet

The US military was working on ARPANET before C existed.

Goodnight sweet prince.

>>20772083
>That is why learning it is difficult– you’re going up into a level abstraction that you never imagined could exist.
I hate it when noobz read the first 5 pages of SICP and their minds get blown about the concept of abstraction so they go around talking about it like it some higher division concept that's exclusive to Lisp that only Lispers understand. Yet if you have any clue about the various layers of a computer, an OS, a network, and the whole fucking internet, you'd realize just how much you sound like a retarded babby.

Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJOq06i-J_A

This is the first lecture of the first CS course for non-majors at Berkeley, geared towards students who have never programmed before, and it covered abstraction. In other words, it's the lowest fucking rung of computer science.

RIP ;_;

>>20772994
what he said

>>20772994
>and apple did make cool stuff like the ipod/iphone and co founded apple.
>apple
>co founded apple

>>20773178
who else would have? jobs?

Also, Lisp isn't difficult to learn. Scheme is widely regarded as the easiest language to learn. It takes a day or two if you're not a fucking idiot. What's difficult for people is finding the motivation to learn a language that looks difficult due to a hodgepodge of parentheses and its utter uselessness in the Real World.

Fuck you all.

RIP Colonel Sanders.

.....

I don't know who this fucker is. I'm glad he's dead.

>>20773433
Too obvious.
>>>/b/

>>20773474

Never been there. What's it like?

>>20764499

Dat shinigami

That's two computer academics considered among the rank of geniuses and the CEO of one of the most legegendary IT companies in the world, in just a few months.

Holy shit.

>>20773671

But who do you think was smarter? Jobs or McCarthy?

>>20773738
McCarthy, definitely.

>>20773001
>guy only half of /g/ knows
>half of /g/
More like 0.1%.

>>20773751

Who was the CEO?

/g/ - Memorials

John was a good scientist, and a good man. He was...He was one of us. He was a man who loved Emacs, and Lisp, and as a Mathematician explored the boundaries of intelligence from artificial to symbolic. And he was an avid Lisper. And a good friend. He died -- he died as so many of his generation, before his time. In your wisdom you took him, Lord. As you took so many bright flowering young men, at Khe San and Lan Doc AND HILL 364! These young men gave their lives. And John too.

Lisp is based on mathematics, so if you deny the following, you are denying mathematics. Therefore, you are denying that Lisp is a great programming language, since Lisp's power comes from its roots in the Lambda Calculus (one can be be pedantic about whether or not logical structures like the Lambda Calculus are more philosophical than mathematical (in theory), but in most cases it is considered a part of mathematics).

The span of a collection of vectors is defined to be the set of all possible linear combinations of the vectors with scalars selected from some set (a field--usually the real numbers). For example, if you select vectors i = <1, 0> and j = <0, 1>, the collection of linear combinations ai + bj (for a, b real numbers) is every vector in the two-dimensional coordinate plane. Creating something so large using something so small is surprising but at the same time expected because of previous experience with vectors, say in Calculus. Now let's think about something whose words are very simple, say the love of God, and meditate on what the span of God's love might be. We read in Paul's letters to the Ephesians that he prays that they might 'have the power. . . to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ.' So the span of God's love is really really big! Is this surprising? YES! Just think about our rebellion and sin--so it is a surprise that God should love us! Is this expected? Again, yes! We have models in our families and friends that demonstrate how broad a father's love for his children can be.

who the fuck? WHO THE FUCK IS THIS FAGGOT /g/

>>20773879

>bj

lol blowjob

Wait a minute...

This guy invented GARBAGE COLLECTION?

AND HE DIDN'T WIN, LIKE, ALL THE PUSSIES FOR IT?

F U C K . T H I S . G A Y . E A R T H

>>20773780
Who was the Inventor ? The Genius ?

>>20773938

I do believe this sticky was a success.

>>20774050
He looks like an action man that was left on the radiator too long, wow

>>20774485
>>20774485
>>20774485

eurotrashfag detected.

>Genius and pioneer of AI dies
>Sticky
>300 posts in 17 hours
>Sticky will probably be gone tomorrow

>Undeserving apple cunt dies
>Sticky
>3000 posts in a day
>Stays up for 5 days

I hate you guys sometimes.

>>20774862
You don't take into account that 90% of the posts in the hypocrite cunt thread where to insult him, troll the applefags and to point out he didn't deserve the sticky in the first place.

I CAN'T WAIT FOR RMS AND GATES TO DIE
I JUST CAN'T WAIT

>>20774965

TO BE KING

Is he that guy from the Beatles?

ITT: People having no idea who the dude was googling him, pretending to know who and how great he was just because they are butthurt from all the attention Jobs got when he died.

i though it was rolf harris at first glance

since it seems to be the season, can we get the inventor of basic/visualbasic dead as well?

Aw fuck LISP. If you can't be bothered to base a language off ALGOL, you deserve whatever you and Fortran people are surely going to

>>20775338

BASIC and Visual Basic are two completely different things.

One of the inventors of BASIC has been dead for almost 20 years anyway.

>>20775377

But ALGOL is based on FORTRAN.

>Steve Jobs
3000 posts
>Dennis Ritchie
1000 posts
>John McCarthy
300 posts

It seems the more important they are the less replies they get

>>20775425
implying mccarthy is more important than ritchie

>>20775428
>threads
and by that i obviously meant posts.

>>20775461
I assumed so.

Let us carry on our lives reverently in memory of John McCarthy.

>>20775440

That's exactly what I'm implying.

C became widespread, but it didn't bring anything new to the table. It had all been done before in ALGOL, BCPL, FORTRAN, LISP, etc.

But as for Lisp, even today languages are just now getting features Lisp had 40 years ago.

>>20775425
>People who use, hate or love Apple products
>People who use, hate or love the C language
>People who use, hate or love Lisp

It's also a result of how big the groups are. Also, why do you hate Steve Jobs because he's better known than an academic? As someone said weeks back in the first Ritchie thread: comparing him and Jobs is like comparing an astronaut to a physicist.

Academics and engineers are rarely famous, unless what they did was monumental or they had a big public presence. There are computer scientists who conquered the first, but it's rare you'll have one who satisfies the latter condition. Even Alan Turing isn't that well known, and some have said he's like the Einstein or Newton of our field.

That being said, Job's will probably be discussed most. He's best known to the public, and his story is pretty interesting. I've wrote a ton of papers on brain-computer interaction research, with lots of concepts I don't believe anyone has discussed before, but I don't expect shrines to built for me if I'm hit by a bus tomorrow.

;.;
You glorious bastard
Dennis Ritchie, now you?
Bjarne Stroustrup better watch the fuck out

>>20775492
Somebody make a sticky for this anon.

>>20775492
steve jobs is just a marketer. He is not a computer scientist and he does not know how to program. He did not invent or create anything. Comapring Dennis Ritchie to Steve Jobs is like comparing the shamwow guy to nikoli tesla

Why didn't Jordan get this much attention when he died?

>>20775719
Because he's still alive. Also, what has Jordan done to advance the field of computer science? Post pretty desktops?

>>20775719
You better not be talking about that tripfag.

Well I guess it's not only celebrities that die in threes.

Who will be next?
1. Larry Wall
2. Bjarne Stroustrup
3. James Gosling
4. Ken Thompson
5. Guido van Rossum

>>20775936

Ken Thompson

The rest are a whole generation ahead of Dennis Ritchie and John McCarthy

>>20775953
I was looking at it from a programming language founder perspective. Not generational. Fortran guy is already dead.

>>20773200
the basics are really easy, i agree. but continuations and macros can take some time to really learn how to use effectively.

rip paul mcartney

rip beatls

rip jesse mccartney

RIP, Colonel Sanders.

>>20764560
TAOCP will never be completed ;_;

the steve jobs sticky got 6000 posts
this guy didnt do as much i guess

this is sad
but this thread is hilarious
also, knuth better not die

rest in peace you legend

my money is on rms or torvalds dying next

>>20777018
Torvalds is only 41, and rms is too stubborn to die.

It's going to be Knuth. The guy is super old and had cancer and forgets that he's giving talks. TeX version 3.14159... draws ever nearer...

RIP Colonel Sanders

> $ curl -s >>20764499 | grep -ic sanders
> 8

RIP

HOLY FREAKING CRAP POSTING IN A STICKY!!!1

RIP big john

Best referee in all of MMA

>>20777534
ZYZZ DID LIAR.
At least recently. Can't remember the last time I saw a sticky because someone died. Think it was on /tg/ when Gary Gygax died.

Of course Steve Jobs can always claim he Did It First.

>>20776508
>implying you'll ever read it

>come to /g/
>ANOTHER fucking sticky about a dead guy

Is Stallman next?

>>20777969
I hope so. But you know what they say, good men die young. Stallman will probably live to see the 22nd century by that logic.

OMG I cant believe ANOTHER of the Beatles died!

>You genius.

>Me Tarzan.

>Mod asshole.

>>20775492

That's my favorite picture of Steve Jobs, because he looks like a Chink that they put on the packaging of frozen eggrolls.

>>20776772
Steve Jobs sticky was us poking fun or celebrating his death so yea...

>>20778376
That copy's pretty low-res, his face looks pretty obscured.

NeXT, I'll post another.

>>20775649
I hope that motherfucker gets hit by a bus. Fuck C++, what a horrible language.

Mkay, that's long enough for a sticky that nobody cared about from the very instant it was tacked.

Sageing a sticky.

A true pioneer of the wide frames. /fa/ would be proud.

>>>/b/
Go back there.

OMG! RIP beatles ;_;

>>20769058
Honestly your example made me like Lisp and I used to think it was fucking horrible.

But that notation is just so damn elegant.
And lends itself to a tree soooo well.

>>20778778
I agree, but for a different reason.

As someone who actually knew who John McCarthy and Dennis Ritchie were before /g/ started pretending to mourn them, I bet these only got stickied because /g/ whined about it.

Why did /g/ whine? Is it because they have a deep respect for these men which reaches the level of parasocial interaction*? I really doubt it.

Rather, judging from the posts made here, they were pissed off about Steve Jobs's death getting a stickie. /g/'s Apple hate is so pathetic that they feel the need to desecrate the death of three men because of it.

>*Feel free to look that term up, /g/. There's to shame in it.

>20779190

You must be new around here or something, I swear.

>>20779190
and yet you add to it, even the apple users on /g/ hate you. since you shove it down everyone's throats

>>20769058
>he doesn't know post-fix and pre-fix notation
Really? I mean, fucking really?!

You are everything that is wrong with programming, engineering and computer science education today. I shouldn't be angry at you, I guess education's just gone to shit. Shit, I learnt this stuff way before college.

Just in case you're interested: post-fix notation just means you put the operators after the operands (the things your operating on) – pre-fix, like you just posted, is the opposite. I consider myself pretty shitty when it comes to math, but this isn't difficult.

You must've struggled with binary digits, too. Wait, do you know what binary is?

>>20777577
But that steroidfag didn't get any sticky.

>>20769058
post-fix notation allows for

1. efficient computation using a stack
2. no ambiguity with arithmetic operation precedence, you don't need brackets for operations like

(2 + 3) * 5

which in postfix would be written for convenience:

* 5 + 2 3

>>20779275
chill out faggot