Gmail.

>>20652177
I've been using G-mail until now but I'm seriously concerned about my privacy when it comes to Google. I want to effectively stop using all Google services and this includes Gmail.

Aol.

>>20652213
>He actually thinks he can escape from the overlord

>2011
>not having your own email domain

I worried about privacy before I realized my life is dull and interesting. Feels good man.

>>20652220
I've heard this before but it's probably just a troll - are they really not absolute shit? (Considering it's AOL, and also American)

I don't know if I can trust a corporation.

>>20652226
Running away is better than just submitting myself. I can still take steps to prevent myself from being among the first victims.

>>20652233
I have my own address on a custom domain but the problem is that it's just linked to the G-mail service internally. Just a domain is nothing, the expensive part is running the actual mail server as well.

Well there was that one site but they stopped giving accounts bu t they were like underground you know? except it was the internet, and I think you had to be a bit of a hacker to use it.

>>20652226

This. It's like you literally have to TRY and avoid Google related shit now.

>>20652251
Actually you'll be the first to go. Lord Google will cleanse this earth of the non submitters and let us Google users live in a eternal utopia. All hail the overlord.

>>20652213
>>20652283
stop using ALL sites that use recaptcha then.

The answer is no.

>>20652302
No, I don't give a shit about the captcha - I care about the /content/. If Google is tracking every single word of every single E-mail I ever read or write, or every single search I make, that's an entirely different problem.

I have no problems with them knowing that I /use/ a certain website (the domain is written right at the end of the email address either way).

I prefer Lavabit over gmail. I fetch my mail locally to my laptop and filter the text ads.

>>20652320
http://boards.4chan.org/robots.txt

It knows you're talking about it.

>>20652355
This is a public website. Everything that I publish here is publicly available and it is by my decision, knowledge and consent so.

I wouldn't post anything that's personally incriminating or severely links myself to my real world persona on public websites like this.

That still doesn't concern e-mails which may or may not be private.

Run your own mail-server.

>>20652327
You can't create an account at the moment though. They arn't letting people. Any idea when that will stop?

>>20652383
It already knows where you live, it already knows your name, it already knows your thought process, it already knows what you like to buy, and it already knows what excites you. You can't hide from it. Just submit to Google.

>>20652432
>it already knows what you like to buy, and it already knows what excites you
Fuck, they infiltrated TOR?

FastMial FM does a pretty good free deal and a fuck-off brilliant $5 PA tariff .

>>20652174
>Is there such a thing as an e-mail provider that gives me everything I want without getting anything for themselves, therefore losing money for catering to my needs?

>>20652493
>Ads

You can't trust anybody else with your data. Run your own mail server.

>>20652493
Well, big names do provide such services, the problem is that those services simply aren't secure.

>>20652524
How?

>>20652400
this. rent a VPS from a reputable company(mediatemple, rackspace, amazon), install debian(no srysly), and go through the painful process of setting up your own mail server :D

>>20652547
>painful process of seting up your own mail server
You're kidding, right? It's fairly easy, I just don't want to spend unneeded sums of money as something as trivial as e-mail.

I may as well not use an e-mail address at all.

>>20652547
http://iredmail.org/
Not so painful anymore, I have a debian server and it works flawlessly. The setup took less than 30 minutes.

>>20652593
You could always run your mail server from home.

>>20652594
this witch craft didnt exist back when i set mine up.
>>20652593
IT IS PAINFUL THE FIRST TIME ROUND.

>>20652619
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi8CF3RKRm4

>>20652612
I'd rather not forward any incoming connections to my personal machine, plus my uptime isn't that great (on either my router or my home machine).

That would also more plainly broadcast its IP, which would make my machine suspect to DoS and DDoS attacks - not only because of the public MX record but also of course because I would have to set up some sort of dynamic DNS solution, as my home IP is not static.

And finally, depending on how much spam I get, the extra bandwidth processing all of it may become significant, seeing as I'm still on dialup-era speeds.

>>20652672
http://workaround.org/ispmail/squeeze/sending-from-dynamic-ip-address

If you really can't do this, then just go use hushmail or lavabit or something. And honestly, gmail really isn't that bad.

>>20652327
I have decided to start using Lavabit whenever it re-offers accounts. I shall wait until then.

Thanks for all of the additional input in this thread.

hotmail with a number in your name

anon987 instead of anon will prevent 100% of spam

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ungoogled-my-week-without-google-a-list-of-alternatives-for-googles-ser
vices/

Very related.

>>20652758
The website looks rather shoddy though:
>If your one of our corporate customers
They can't even speak English.

Nonetheless, their philosophy of providing open source, enough encryption to prevent even engineers from reading message contents, and promising not to sell my personal information (this promise is dubious though as I have no way to believe them) has convinced me even if they apparently aren't capable of simple typography.

Oh, and their website claims to be XHTML strict and CSS compliant, and while I'm not going to go ahead and test that myself, it at least shows that they care about not being absolute trash.

>>20652776
ZohoMail actually looks interesting as well. I have no idea how robust their security or privacy (I doubt it's that good), but they run everything over your own MX record.

Go with Microsoft. No other corporation has the government further up its ass and no corporation has as many "hackers" searching for flaws and bugs so they can post about them on their blog about how hard Microsoft sucks.