iPads for ebooks is fucking awful, I'm okay with reading on a backlight screen sometimes, but the battery life is so laughable.

If he starts learning Objective C, you better organize an intervention.

>>20457163
It sounds like you are a tool, he knows what a faggot you are and how you will flip shit if he out and out admits he likes it
So he has to make up bullshit lies around you

Because one day you stop being a gearfag who wants the latest and greatest and wants something that just works.

E-readers are a fucking joke. At least you can do other stuff with an iPad. I myself got one for college so I can pirate all my text books and carry them all on a single device, also googling something in said books in case I don't understand it is quite the time saver

>>20457206
my ipad lasts like 9 hours.. how the fuck long does it take you to read a book?

>>20457163
I think the smartest thing here would be to put your friend to sleep. It's obvious he's suffering, and it wouldn't be right to let him live on like this.

>>20457230
It's actually the contrary, he knows I'd enjoy learning how to bootcamp a real Mac and gain some knowledge I normally couldn't, despite our initial ideology that it was silly to pay so much when we could make one for half the price. It's just this constant denial that blows me away.

Tablets in general are pointless

>>20457280

If you've never read for 12+ hours straight, you may as well be illiterate.

>>20457325
confirmed for twilight saga forever alone fag.

>you don't understand. people need a cause. they need to molded.
>steve jobs.

>>20457352

Confirmed for illiterate faggot.

>He has never read the unabridged Les Miserables in the original French over a three day weekend
>mfw

>>20457325
>2011
>reading

>>20457278
E-ink is the only way to read for extended periods without fucking up your eyes from a constant LCD backlight.

Unfortunately, my girlfriend is one. She's a typical macfag, doesn't know shit about computers and begs for help with simple problems, but she will defend Apple to the death. She was talking about getting a smartphone and I recommended the Samsung Galaxy or a Droid, but she said that she was just going to get an iPhone because "I know how Apple works and I would just rather buy from them"

the only defense i've ever heard for using macs is they're too dumb and lazy to learn the windows equivalent hotkeys for the programs they use.

>>20457397
>Les Miserables
Oh god I can smell the gay coming off you from ehre

>hackintosh

the whole point of OS X is to get real unix, without having to hack it

>>20457435
>want unix
>don't want to hack anything

Script kiddie alert.

>>20457435
Nobody is this stupid right?

Right???

OP, your friend is trying to appease you because you're a tool.

>>20457427

>Epic story detailing a people's bloody struggle against oppression.
>Gay

inigo.jpg

Also, Confirmed for uncultured Americunt.

>>20457488
Calling someone a tool seems to be the ironic trademark of an Apple fan. It already happened in this thread, even.

ebooks:

ipad
battery life: 8 hours
reading outside: lcd screens too shiny
price: $400
lcd backlight not as easy on the eyes

ereader
battery life: 2 weeks
reading outside: no problem, its nice to sit out in the sun and read
price: $100-$200
eink display as easy on the eyes as paper

paper book
they take up a lot of space. there are 50 books on my bookshelf. and a thousand in my ereader. one takes up an entire wall. the other fits in the palm of my hand. its more comfortable holding an ereader then holding open a book, especially larger books. can pirate ebooks. paper books are for casual readers not modern day hardcore litfags.

anyways buying an ipad just for ebooks is fucktarded unless you're reading a lot of textbooks then it makes sense.

>>20457410
THIS SO MUCH

AND NOW THEY ARE MAKING LCD E-READERS?

WHAT THE FUCK?

>>20457163
>"prefers Windows over this playschool shit."

>>20457583
Pretty much this. Still haven't gotten my first ereader but will do so when I next purchase a book. It is a pretty good buy in the long run. Will also be using it for manga / comics which should work out quite well.

>>20457519
gays ARE oppressed, and rightfully so

>>20457689
'gotten' is not a word you fucking americunt

>>20457583

You omitted something.

>Paper book
>Can them share with friends and neighbors without being accused of a crime.

you might want to have him tested for aids too.

>>20457702
>gotten: past participle of get (Verb)

>>20457701

>Derp
>Herpa derp derp
>Derpderpderp

>reading novels
>not technical documentation, mathematics, science, history, or computer related works

>>20457754

>no fun allowed

>>20457744
>Cambridge Dictionary of British English
>1. get 2. got 3. got

>>20457763

British English is a useless old dialect of American that no one important speaks.

>arguing on the internet

>>20457763
by that logic, "obtener," or "erhalten" are not words either

>>20457701

>If it's about oppression it must be about gay people
>gay people should be oppressed

>>20457817

Gays should be exiled.

Read this picture and tell me you don't have a problem with gays again

>>20457719
well whoop de doo

if my friend had an ereader i could just email him a book or two. i could say i bought it and lost the receipt if i had to, cops can't prove shit. i can email it to him from an anonymous mailer if i wanted to. as if the cops would fucking bother anyways. fuck the pohleece stop being a bitch.

however none of my friends have an ereader. so thats where my original argument comes into play
>whoop de doo
big fucking deal

the advantages of an ereader still far outweigh a big fucking shelf of books

>>20457838

>Implying that a few images represent the entire homosexual population.

DERP

>>20457838
>a few different gay people say retarded shit
>hate every one of the millions of gays for the words of a minority of them

i could easily find a series of retarded things being said by literally any fucking demographic on earth. it doesn't prove anything. stop being irrational.

>>20457847

>Lend real books to friends
>Cops never get involved.
>Sell books to others when I no longer want or need them
>Cops never get involved
>inferior

>>20457838

>implying all gay people are like that

Nice generalizations motherfucker. Maybe I should make a collage of a few heterosexuals into scat and pedophilia and claim that all of you are like that.

Oh wait, I shouldn't do that, because it would be complete bullshit. If you honestly think that it's okay to judge hundreds of millions of people based on only a few forum posts, you're a fucking idiot.

...or a troll

>>20457950

That's like saying white people are as bad as black people because a few of them commit crimes

Even though statistics show black people are much, MUCH more likely to commit crimes.

>>20457904

Also

>Own an e-reader
>Visitor looks at your e-reader
>Visitor learns nothing about you.

>Own a big ass shelf of books
>Visitor looks at your bookshelf
>Visitor comes to understand you better as a person.

>>20457950
>hundreds of millions of people

i think you mean tens of thousands.

>>20457904
lol

>implying the cops would notice
>implying anyone gives a fuck

seriously? grow some fucking balls

>>20457397

More people would if the book wasn't shit.

>>20458018

>Wanting to have the legal right to share and resell the things you buy.
>Ball-less

inigo.jpg

>>20457989

lol. i don't give a fuck. seems you like paper books cause you want people to know what you're reading. well most new ereaders these days have facebook built right in so there, all your friends will see on your wall what books you read. as if anyone gives a fuck.

i bet you buy a book and think "this will make me look smart" and then put the cleverest books at eye level for people to see. lol pathetic.

>>20458060

>Hasn't read the book.
>"It's shit."

Illiterate, uncultured Americunt general.

>>20458118

>facebook

Stopped reading right there.

And that really says something, because I love to read.

>>20458118
this.

>>20458117
>>Wanting to have the legal right to share and resell the things you buy.

thats fine even if its beyond my ability to comprehend. but you were going on and on about how the cops would catch you or something. and thats bullshit and if you're worried about that, and judging from what you wrote you are, then that is indeed balless.

>>20458146
well look i dont use the facebook features. i was just saying if he wanted to show off what he was reading so bad ereaders can do that just as well if not better then a booksheld

>>20458154

>how the cops would catch you

No.

CAN, not WOULD.

The cops CAN arrest me for sharing and eBook.

The cops CAN arrest me for reselling an eBook.

Whether or not they would do it is of no concern to me. I will not purchase a product which constrains my rights in such a way.

>Lend real books to friends
>Cops never get involved.
>Sell books to others when I no longer want or need them
>Cops never get involved
>inferior

lol. you say cops never get involved twice. as if you really believed that sending someone an ebook would get you busted. cops wouldnt get involved with ereaders either silly. hence why i told you to grow a pair. worrying about stupid shit that would never happen, scared of the cops that dont give a fuck what you're reading

>>20458060
>>20457427
Nigger, Les Miserables is one of the best books of all-time. Some of the best characters in all of literature, and Jean Valjean is fucking badass

>>20458240
>flaunting his 'knowledge' of les miserables
Oh, to be 16 years old

/g/, i'm an illiterate shit. I don't read because i never find the time.

But now, i want to change that.

What books should i read, /g/ ? (Classics and all)

>>20458166

>if he wanted to show off

It's not about showing off.

My bookshelf is an extension and expression of myself, to the same extent that my attire, my desktop or my coffee table is an extension and expression of myself.

When someone visits my home and sees my bookshelf, they get a brief, literary glimpse of who I am.

If someone visited my home and saw my eReader, all they would know about me is that at one point, I had ~$200 USD.

>>20458259
Who's flaunting anything?

>>20458260
Crime and Punishment

>>20458217

See:
>>20458184
>Whether or not they would do it is of no concern to me. I will not purchase a product which constrains my rights in such a way.

>>20458184
>I will not purchase a product which constrains my rights in such a way.

you're missing the point. i dont purchase the product. and it doesnt contrain my rights because nobody gives a fuck. i've read 50 books since last christmas, which isnt even a big deal to anybody who reads for a couple hours a day instead of tv. if i were to buy each book at $10 each then it would cost me $5000 a year in books. or i could save money by reading fewer books? fuck that. if i wanted to support the authors when i could afford to i could buy the books i liked reading the best nothing is stopping me

>>20458306

Or you could just legally borrow those titles in real book form from friends.

>>20457701
Nice.

>>20458000

If we go off of surveys conducted by Gary Gates and Robert Kinsey, the percentage of humans that are gay could range anywhere from 2% to about 13%.

There are about 6.7 billion people in the world. if just 2 percent of the population were homosexuals, that would already be over 100 million people.

Just to drive the point home...

>Store thousands of eBooks on a public server.
>Allow people to access them for free.
>Government sends you to jail.

>Store thousands of real books in a public building
>Allow people to access them for free.
>Government gives you funding.

>>20457763
We're speaking the American dialect here. We don't put 'u' in words like labor, harbor, humor, etc. You sound like Spanish people who dislike Latin American Spanish because it's not up to their snobby Eurotrash standards. Go listen to some Kraftwork and watch some awful French art film that will feature more penis than boobs in it.

>>20458260
depends really. i'll suggest a couple sci-fi books

worldwar series by harry turtledove: aliens invade in the middle of world war 2. epic and bloody war follows. written well with realistic knowledge of the weapons and tactics of the time. good plot and very realistic human characters. entertaining as fuck.

prador moon by neil asher: a highly advanced human race in the distant future occupying many planets and ruled over by ai (but in a refreshing unique twist the ai is good and better then human rulers) and then humanity is attacked by a species of cybernetic crab fucks that are really hard to kill. entertaining read without being anywhere near as silly as it sounds, a lot of brutal violence if you're into that.

manifold time by stephen baxter: good decent mindfuck of a hard science fiction with a lot of parallel universe stuff. i also liked his book raft and suggest that, it had a very creative setting.

hitchhikers guide to the galaxy if you want a good time

>>20458429
i'm not interested in doing either of those things and only the very rich can afford to build a public fucking library of thousands of books so your point really doesnt apply to me or the average person at all.

besides if i wanted to share a thousand books online i'd just make a torrent. people do that all the fucking time and hardly ever get in trouble

>>20458430

>Implying that "gotten" is an Americanism

Gotten is linguistically correct English, it just fell out of popular usage in the UK about 300 years ago.

>>20458468

>hardly ever

Unacceptable.

I will never, ever, ever, ever, EVER get in trouble for sharing books because I only read real books.

>>20458331
>Or you could just legally borrow those titles in real book form from friends.

lol fuck off. yeah i'm gonna borrow 50 books a year from friends and they're going to be the exact books i wanted to read cause they just so happen to have that. not even the public library in my city of half a million has every book i feel like reading. the internet does.

>>20458507

>50 books a year
>Implying that's a lot.

Less than one book a week on average.

Not a single fuck was given.

>>20458507
>half a million
>city

>>20458536
What's wrong with that?

>>20458546

That's not a city. That's a town.

>>20458505
then dont upload a thousand books in a torrent for the general public. problem solved.

you're never gonna get in trouble sending ebooks to a few friends. cops will never bust that. nobody gives a fuck.

and realistically lending books to friends. come on. how often does a friend read a book you lent out, honestly. and is that really so big a deal as to make or break your decision to go paper. lending books to friends is just a bonus not a game changer.

>>20458434
>>20458281
H2G2. That's the only book i read.
Thanks, i'll give them a shoot.

>>20458430
>Implying South American Spanish isn't genuinely broken Spanish brought to South America by the conquistadors

>Kraftwork
Apparently somebody can't spell properly... A name in a foreign language causing you trouble singlelanguagefag? Also, Kraftwerk is better music than the uninspired rubbish your music industry has been pumping out for decades.

>>20458563

>how often does a friend read a book you lent out, honestly.

A lot for me.

My friends and I are constantly exchanging books.

This is what literate people do. They share books and discuss them.

>>20458534
actually i wasnt implying thats a lot. in fact i said in an earlier post

>i've read 50 books since last christmas, which isnt even a big deal to anybody who reads for a couple hours a day instead of tv

what i was implying is that my random group of friends arent going to somehow have the 50 exact books i want to read that year. even if each of my friends had a fully stocked bookshelf it would be unlikely.

>>20458609
>Claiming to be civilized and reading a lot of books
>Can't even use capital letters properly
Yeah... I totally believe you...

>>20458609

>He doesn't have a large circle of well-read friends.

>>20458594
Don't let the macfag snobs hear you say that. They like to dickwave about minute points in life. Having real friends is scary for fags who spend their time loving the shiny products that Steve Jobs hawked to them. Having substance and deep connections with people is a scary concept for them.

Best thing about lending books to friends is that even if you don't get the book back, it doesn't matter. I have books from friends and they have books of mine and at this rate they'll be in our collective possession forever. Feels good.

ITT: /g/ gets told by /lit/

/g/, I am disappoint.

>>20458594
honestly you really sound like a pretentious person. your home being an extension of your personality and all this bullshit. fine whatever, thats you, not everyone is like that.

me, my home is whatever the fuck i wanted to buy that i could afford. its not an extension of anything. i only have a close circle of a dozen friends who already know what i read by talking to me. and half of them arent really interested in what i read anyways. and most of them don't read a lot anyways.

getting paperbooks just because they're easy to lend and show off makes no sense for my lifestyle. makes no sense for a lot of people.

you know what makes sense to me? reading any fucking book i want in the world whenever the fuck i want, wherever i want to do it. instantly.

>>20458609
50 books...lol. I have three books shelves overflowing with all kinds of titles. And the friends I have will have the books I wish to read because they read a wide variety like me. I'm debating getting an e-reader when the new kindle comes out. It'd be nice to have something I could read my many pdf's and ebooks on. Is it hard to port them onto say a kindle? I'm not buying some faggy apple product. I refuse to. Kindles are dirt cheap now, even the one made to compete with iPad is way cheaper.

>>20458647
>Can't even use capital letters properly

for a simple paragraph on 4chan i dont need to

>>20458700

>He barely has any friends.
>His friends aren't well-read.

>>20458740
you might wanna pass that by /lit/

>>20458703
>And the friends I have will have the books I wish to read because they read a wide variety like me.

well woop de doo son. your friends read more then my friends. i dont care. not everyone is a super social person or wants to be. and that's fine.

i've got 2000 books on my ereader right now. almost all of them top notch sci-fi and historical which is what i like. and yet sometimes i'll hear about a book i want to read that i dont have, maybe its a book that just came out. within a few minutes i've found it, downloaded it, and put it on my ereader. you and your friends bookshelves cannot match that. i can read any book i want to in the world within minutes

paperbooks just wouldnt make sense for my life. they make sense for your life thats fine. but for me paper books would be vastly inferior

>>20458843
I'm not "super social" I'm just not an aspie neckbeard like you. I actually go out and meet people and enjoy things like sunshine and getting off a computer. Sorry my friends are knuckle-draggers like yours obviously are.

>>20458765
if /lit/ wants to be pretentious capital letter nazis thats fine. capital letters are mandatory for websites and books theres no excuse not to use them there. for a post on a fucking message board, a post that will be wiped from the internet in about an hour when the thread 404s. capital letters dont matter in such a setting

>>20457368
>>20457397
>>20457402
>>20457484
Who are you quoting?
>>20457519

>>20458890

It's called paraphrasing, bitch.

>>20458843

>Claims to be well-read
>Justifying theft because it is easy.

Troll or most retarded person ever.

He spends money like a nig nog.

>>20458765
there's plenty of people who don't use proper grammar on /lit/.

>>20458876

>nazis

Godwin's Law.

The argument is over. You lose.

Les Misérables is shit, like many classics.
Also this thread is bad and OP should feel bad.

>>20458868

Holy hell. Despite your self-proclaimed awesomeness, I don't think I could stand being in the same room with you for 10 minutes.

>>20458961

> I don't think I could stand being in the same room with you for 10 minutes.

Obviously...you're an Aspie.

Aspies fare poorly in all social situations.

>>20458868
>aspie neckbeard
implying having only a dozen close friends makes me an aspie neckbeard lol ok

>I actually go out and meet people and enjoy things like sunshine and getting off a computer.

implying i dont

>Sorry my friends are knuckle-draggers like yours obviously are.

i think you meant "aren't" but ok. some of my friends are knuckle-draggers but they're fun and i don't care. simple peasants that we are we get drunk at keg parties and such. someone as lofty and distinguished as yourself is likely above that kind of peasant frolic. and some of my friends are smart but that doesnt mean they'll have the exact book i feel like reading.

>>20458961
>>20458961
Feeling is more than mutual my pathetic little aspie. Your foul odor alone would be enough to probably choke me into a peaceful coma.

>>20458977

>keg

Why don't you just drink one another's piss directly from each other's penises?

That would be a lot easier, cheaper and deliver roughly the same quality of libations.

>reading books for the purpose of entertainment
WHY

>>20458977
My friends don't have the "exact" book (more Aspie articulation from you) that I want to read. I peruse their library and see what new kind of subject I can venture into and then ask if I can borrow said book. I don't sit there and have a single-track mind that demands to have the world adapt to me. My friends also drink and we're not always discussing "lofty" things. I just happen to keep company that is fun, intelligent, and that I can relate to. Not all of my friends are like that, granted, just the ones that I'm closest to tend to be.

>>20458946
Are you 13?

>>20458902

i dont claim to be well read i claim to have read about 50 books this year which as i've mentioned isn't a big deal. and its not really theft when i didnt have the $5000 those books would have cost in the first place anyways.

and believe it or not there are plenty of well read people who steal things or are otherwise immoral
well read =/= morality

> something about Apple denial here to fit in to the thread

... wait, no, that isn't the topic here?

>This thread

OP wept

or laughed his ass off

take it to /lit/

>>20458988
implying that not liking your pretentious attitude indicates body odour. an entirely baseless and irrational claim

>>20459063

>plenty of well read people who steal things

Perhaps, but they don't justify by saying "It's easy and suits my lifestyle".

That's just fullretard.jpg, bro.

>>20459010
actually i enjoy the taste of beer. and if you knew anything about beer you'd realize that it often tastes freshest and best direct from a keg. if you personally dont enjoy beer thats fine, but to insult other people for liking beer is the very definition of pretentious asshole.

>>20459087
You are mad because it's true and that put a chink in your armor. It's not my fault you're a social retard who doesn't bathe regularly and is unable to be a productive member of society. Did your hugbox break?

>>20459126

I love beer, which is precisely the reason why I never, ever drink keg beer.

Pic Related: It's a real beer, nigger.

>>20459091
but it is easy and it does suit my lifestyle. maybe that makes me an immoral asshole but it hardly makes me a retard.

and maybe you pissed the part where i dont have $5000 a year to spend on books. so its either download them or dont read them at all. under those circumstances my downloads hurt no one. learn to logic

>>20459161

> $5000 a year

Suddenly, 50 * $10 = $5,000

TL,DR: You are a fucking moron.

>>20459161

>maybe that makes me an immoral asshole but it hardly makes me a retard.

No, it makes you an immoral retard.

>>20459157
LOL ROFL
NICE PIC BRO
OF A PINT OF BEER
FROM A BAR?
IN WHICH CASE IT CAME FROM A... KEG!

unless that beer is direct from the very barrel in which it was brewed in which case sure thats cool bro but not exactly practical or possible in all situations. it then becomes a choice between bottles, cans, or kegs and with those choices kegs often taste the best do to being incredibly fresh and having good carbonation (provided you use a co2 pump which i do) i don't think you actually know anything about beer.

>>20459161
>go to Half-Price books.
>pay pennies on the dollar for books.
>support local business that helps literacy programs in area.
>feels good man.

Just because something is convenient in your life doesn't make it the right path to take. You're not just immoral, you're a lazy neckbeard aspie who drinks nasty watery beer with his tard friends.

Pic related, what people do to you irl.

>>20459157
Homebrewer? If so, fuck yeah.

>>20459198
rofl ok you got me there

so i download the books and i'm an immoral asshole fine. though i hardly see how thats retarded. my poor math however that was retarded. hilariously so

>>20459223

>Implying that "beer which came out of a keg" == "kegger beer".

This isn't your daddy's Bud Lite, faggot.

>>20459223

>he thinks beer is brewed in a keg.

>>20459291

>or even in a barrel

>>20459273
He's an aspie neckbeard. He takes everything LITERAL instead of the fact we're mocking his white trash choice of beer, not the fact he was drinking out of a keg. Probably drinks Shiner Bock and thinks it's a true Bavarian brew.

>>20459273
you don't even know what kind of beer i'm drinking at these kegs lol. we typically order some custom from a local microbrew actually because it's cheap and actually really good. you just make baseless assumptions then fly with them as if they were fact.

and besides. if i did drink bud lite. and i dont because if i wanted to taste water its free from the tap. but if i did it would probably taste better out of a keg. provided of course the keg wasnt overpumped (hence that co2 tap i mentioned)

I brew my own beer. and it tastes better out of a bottle than it does out of the keg. that could be because the bottled beer is on average 2 weeks older than the beer in the keg.

>>20459320
Them caps....

>>20459291
never said beer was brewed in a keg. better check your reading comprehension. it is fresher in a keg usually because kegs are filled the day you buy them not sitting on a shelf for a month.

oh, sorry i said barrel and not cask. they're pretty similar though. and no its not brewed in a cask, but many brews spend the last stage of the process in one.

>>20459320

> we typically order some custom from a local microbrew

Sure you do chief...sure you do.

Because "well-read" people like your "friends" who attend keggers always opt for the finest quality of beer.

>>20457817

>implying gay people shouldnt be oppressed
>implying you people dont love to be treated as the little bitches you are.

>>20459041
>>My friends don't have the "exact" book (more Aspie articulation from you) that I want to read. I peruse their library and see what new kind of subject I can venture into and then ask if I can borrow said book.

i'll hear or read about a book i want. and i can get that book. and i dont care if you think thats too easy. and i can browse my library of thousands of books quite easily while deciding what i want to read next, and if the next book in that series isnt online... oh wait, of course it is. i can read whatever i want and i dont think thats a bad thing. but i guess that means i have autism lol

>>20459391
Hey hey now, he's got over 5000 dollars worth of pirate books on his e-reader. He's a true literary aficionado.

>>20459391
notice where i said "because its cheap"

or where i mentioned that many of my friends arent well read.

>>20459458
How does all the asbestos and lead in your parents basement work with wifi signals for your e-reader? I would ask how well it works in sunlight...but then it's you were talking to.

>>20459458

>Claim eBook format is better than real books
>Pirate eBooks

You're just like those faggots who rail against free software and pirate Windows: a hypocrite.

>>20457397
french master race here

this guy knows his shit

>>20459500
>no rational arguments left. resorts to baseless name calling.

clear sign of a well read intellectual who has a lot of friends and they're all well read intellectuals too

>>20459558
Butthurt detected.

>>20459501

and maybe i like books, but prefer ereaders for their comfort and ease of use, space saving design versus bookshelves, and instantly any book i want features. and if i wanted to i could buy ebooks, whether i choose to or not doesnt make the format itself a terrible way to read.

>>20459569
lol. not nearly as butthurt as the post you made that i was replying to

My dad and brother denied my claims of Apple overpricing their products, even when cold hard facts were put on the table they refused to believe it.

Thankfully they don't look at it the same as of recently, but holy fuck the Apple fanbase can be ignorant and annoying as fuck at times.

>>20459657
you didnt actually make an intelligent point. and my response was really just paraphrasing what i wrote earlier since it clearly didnt sink in the first time. i was just telling you the reason i like ebooks again so that you'd understand how my reasons are entirely unrelated to your poor analogy.

>>20459638
It's okay, little aspie, that hugbox is going to be fixed soon.

>>20459653
>even when cold hard facts were put on the table they refused to believe it.

thats human nature. there are entirely too few people capable of admitting even to themselves when they are wrong. the wikipedia article on cognitive dissonance i found most enlightening as an explanation for this behaviour

>>20459749
butthurt detected

oh sorry
Butthurt detected.

my dad/bro are both big into the mac cult, nothing makes me more angry. except for every night my entire family watches xfactor together and i have to listen to those talentless fucks wailing down the microphone, but thats a different story.

the thing that made me rage the most recently is that they both use the mac style thin keyboards, i tried to explain why mechanical keyboards are superior but they couldnt understand and said nothing beats the mac keyboards for usability

>i dont want to live in this world any more

>If someone visited my home and saw my eReader, all they would know about me is that at one point, I had ~$200 USD.

or they could pick it up and browse through it if they were interested in what i read.

no need for a large bookshelf taking up space just to show off. and the whole lending books to friends thing isnt a big deal or doesnt apply to everyone.

meanwhile ereaders are nice for a lot of reasons such as those in this post >>20459620

so raging against ereaders really did show how immature you are. have you learned your lesson and become a better person?

>>20459942

>lending books isn't a big deal

The only reason Western Civilization exists as we know it is because of people lending books.

Pic Related: Without these dudes, we would know nothing of the Classical World.

>>20459991
Dude, the neckbeard aspies here have no concept of social interaction. They don't understand the good feeling you get from having friends that you can share stuff with and not be a literal-minded social tard who dwells in the basement of their parents. You're wasting your effort at this point, they're just butthurt aspies.

>>20459991

you clearly took what i said out of context. i said its not a big deal for me and many other people. most of my friends don't want to read my copy of dune or whatever.

western civilization isnt going to fall because people aren't lending their friends paper books. especially for me since i my particular friends aren't especially interested in what i read.

besides, there are so many books shared online these days. one person can now share his book with thousands. if anything its too easy to share books online.

>>20460074

ITT: ppl who feel smug when the call other ppl "dude"

>>20459991

Anon is onto something here.

Consider the following:

>Society collapses
>All knowledge contained on eBooks is lost forever.
>Knowledge contained in real books is fine.

>>20460074

so anyone who isnt constantly lending their friends books is a neckbeard asspie. well that sounds pretty dumb. most of my friends dont want to read my sci-fi or historical novels and i only have like a dozen close friends anyways. you're just tossing insults around because you have no rational arguments

>>20460133

>i said its not a big deal for me and many other people

No, you didn't.

>the whole lending books to friends thing isnt a big deal or doesnt apply to everyone

>>20460167
if civilization collapses there are still plenty of paperbooks around its not a problem right now. might be in the future if everyone makes a shift to ereader, but i think there will always be a fair number of paper fanboys in the forseeable future.

>Uh, mac is so shite lol eksdee

SP is being made on Macs, you cunts, deal with it.
From people in tough time-constraints.
Top notch work.
Just
fucking
deal
with
it.

Source: http://www.mtvu.com/shows/stand-in/trey-parker-matt-stone-surprise-nyu-class/

>>20460218

>its not a problem right now

Spoken like a true, short-sighted moron.

>"It's not a problem now, so we don't have to worry about it."
>Suddenly, it becomes a problem.
>"Well...fuck me."

>>20460251

>SP is being made on Macs

Reason #5245812368412158135 to hate Apple.

>>20460218
It's not so much me being a fan boy, I just like the fact my books aren't going to possible crash or someone can see what kind of books I read by hacking my account. That and try doing research and cross-referencing multiple books at once. What's that, you gotta load them?

>>20460187
well it was clearly implied unless you're an asspie who takes everything literally and doesnt understand subtext or overall context of an argument.

>>20460218
If civilization collapses, paper books will be a great source of comfort to those needed kindling to burn.

>>20460175
Aspies gonna asp.

>>20460258
i said not a problem in the forseeable future. the day everyone switches to ereaders and paperbooks arent printed anymore is clearly not coming any time soon. and i didnt say it wasnt a problem, i just said not a problem right now.

so what are you suggesting? that we throw out all our ereaders now because in a few hundred years we might stop printing paper books if we dont?

what we need to do is backup all those ebooks on to paper. except we dont have to do that right now because they're already on paper. there are very few books that arent on paper and the ones that arent are usually not on paper because they couldnt get published in the first place.

>>20460286

>well it was clearly implied

No, it wasn't.

>>20460357
So you think if civilization collapses suddenly the thousands of servers that hold redundant files will be compromised? Not one surviving?

But someone how paper books would be fine?

>>20460284
well thats fine. you have legititmate reasons for wanting paperbooks. and that guy who keeps bashing ebooks in this thread also has reason to prefer paper. the whole point i'm trying to make is that ereaders also have their place and that for some people they make more sense then paper. and i'm getting a lot of hate for that opinion

>>20460357

>a few hundred years

Confirmed for utterly fucking retarded.

If books do move to a strictly digital format, it won't take "a few hundred years", more like a few decades.

>>20460428
how so? the people who prefer paper books now are still going to prefer paper books for the same reasons in the future.

>>20460400

>Energy crisis
>Unable to power servers
>All digitally stored media is inaccessible
>Books are fine

>Weaponized EMP
>Digitally stored media is destroyed
>Books are fine
Pretty fucking simple to follow, bro.

>>20460473
there's always going to be a market for paper books is what i'm saying. unless we all download ourselves into the internet or something.

>>20460473

>Implying that book publishers will give a rats ass about what will rapidly become the minority of their customers.

>>20460505
well you may have a point then. so what can we do about it?

>>20460556

STOP BEING A HIPSTER FAGGOT AND READ NORMAL BOOKS, NIGGER!

>>20459046
Isis?

>>20460574
well actually its more hipster to insist on paper actually but thats a moot point

i asked what can we do about it. since thats clearly not going to happen. since people are going to keep reading ebooks and nothing can be done to stop it. what can we do then?

my suggestion is that when paperbooks are no longer printed that there should be a few warehouses in every country where they print as many ebooks as they can. doomsday book vaults that also have backup printing presses that can operate without electricity so the books can be copied when needed.

theres a type of compact disk that lasts for hundreds of years. if a suitably robust computer was built to read these disks then a great many books could be stored in a small space. put all that in a room and store it alongside a shitload of old fashioned printing presses and paper and instructions engraved into metal on how to make more paper etc.

>>20460721

>doomsday book vaults

Perfect...

That way, when society does collapse, failed Government will hold all of the knowledge and we will ease right back into Feudalism.

>>20460721
although thats not possible right now since in many peoples minds its not a problem (and over the next couple decades at least it isnt). so that'll have to wait till it starts to become a problem then we may have the will to put that into place. so until then there's nothing we can do aside from make sure the generation that comes after us understands the risks of losing all ebooks. so for now all we can do is educate the public on the problems and realistic solutions

>>20460748
then have a lot of your doomsday vaults in private hands. though i suppose government could take them over.

ok, how about this. a campaign of public awareness where every person is encouraged to have at least a few important paper books in their house.

>>20460404
>>well thats fine. you have legititmate reasons for wanting paperbooks. and that guy who keeps bashing ebooks in this thread also has reason to prefer paper. the whole point i'm trying to make is that ereaders also have their place and that for some people they make more sense then paper. and i'm getting a lot of hate for that opinion

Don`t worry. Most people understand that. You`re only getting hate from one person and he seems like a bit of a mental case.

>>20457163
I recall a time before 2004 when I was laughing at macs. I hadn't ever used one. When 2007 rolled around I got an intel macbook. One of the best laptops I've ever had, and am still using.

>>20460787
hell by the time people start noticing that there are few paper books anymore at least some governments could even make that law.

>>20458555
Depends where you are.
That's an 8th of my entire country

>>20460889
that`s not a country thats a city

>>20460953
I'm curious as to your definition of a city

This type of thing happened to me yesterday. My friend use to be a mac hater after my own heart. He had a thinkpad and was excited for me to teach him how to use linux. In less than a month he wanted to ditch ubuntu for something with less bloat (He wound up on debian)

Well over the past year or so we've been out of touch and he slowly regressed. He switched back to windows because he needed some programs for class for example, started buying shit products like skullcandies.

Then, he got an FM transmitter for his creative zen and it was a piece of shit and broke. He was upset with losing 60 bucks and started thinking "If I just had an iTrip this wouldn't have happened"

Now, he is planning to switch to a macbook and hopefully get an ipod bundled in. When I asked why get a macbook he said "They are actually superior products and are not over priced anymore, I just never liked their price. You know, open source software is sketchy. Buying Apple is no different than like buying Google stuff. Besides, my class requires iTunes for like video assignments"

I started to urge him to AT LEAST build a hackintosh, but he says Apple just makes better less sketchy hardware than "open source hardware" (?), and with the ipod its actually a "really good deal".

TLDR: my friend became a techno-ignorant macfag and I am sad.

>>20461010
a population of at least 50 million

>>20461092
No.

>>20461035
Mfw I buy >shit products like skullcandies
because I'm not a condescending audiophile.

i like macs cause they have really shiny screens. and humans evolved to direct their attention to shiny things cause water is shiny and those who could spot the shiny better found more water. a lot of companies have been releasing increasingly shinier screens to compete with apple resulting in a sort of arms race resulting in the common trend of screens that are harder and harder to see especially in sunlight. but apple is still the shinest

>>20460953
You realize that most countries don't match USA, China, Russia, India's, etc. population numbers. Australia is only 20 million people. Texas alone has more than that. Most countries only have a few million (Laos, Cambodia, etc.) you ignorant neckbeard aspie faggot.

hackintosh... the hardware isn't fully supported, and theres no guarantee the system will work when updating. It defeats the purpose of having a mac, a computer without ever having to deal with troubleshooting.

>>20461130
well thats fine, i bought some skullcandy earbuds when they were on sale for $6. as long as you dont thing you`re buying a premium product and as long as you dont spend a lot of money on them

a lot of people will spend good money on skullcandies and then brag that they`re the best. but the only reason they think skullcandies are premium is due to slick marketing. if you do your research you realize that skullcandies use the same components used in something like 70% of all supercheap economy headphones that are half the cost of skullcandies. they charge extra for the logo.

>>20461130
Over priced for the brand name, has nothing to do with being an audiophile.

>>20461150
so thats why screens are getting shinier and harder to see. because we`re dumb animals directed by simple instincts and emotional reactions rather then rational thought

>>20457280
>9 hour book

Stop reading shitty video game franchise tie-in novels.

And fuck you, my e-ink reader's battery lasts over two months.

>>20461215
I'll just leave this here for you. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant

>>20461221
Provide and alternative of equal greater qualitative value without exceeding the precedent cost.