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    53 KB Steve Wozniak Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)08:20 No.20416265  
    My macfag friend is saying how Steve Jobs is amazing and all that typical bullshit, and I'm trying to convince him that Wozniak contributed more to Apple than Jobs. I'm not an Apple fan, but I do recognize that Wozniak did a lot for Apple, and that Jobs fucked him over in a lot of ways.

    The problem is, my macfag friend won't believe me unless I find some sources that prove it (some "citation needed" faggotry). I don't remember where I read the info on how Jobs fucked Wozniak over, but would any of you happen to know some good sources which have that information?

    inb4 "use google"

    Google results are a bit skewed right now, seeing as how Jobs just died. All the top results are about how Jobs was a "revolutionary" or some shit and it's hard finding stuff on how Wozniak was discredited for his work for Macintosh/Apple.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)08:40 No.20416514
    Wozniak was and is the geek and Jobs was the business man. Everybody knows that. It was in a movie ever all!
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)08:47 No.20416600
    "Even when Apple really got started we weren't close friends because he had a different motivation in the company, which was to run a company, and mine was just to be a top engineer that did clever, clever projects."

    Source: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002929498_wozqa14.html
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)08:49 No.20416624
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    >Grinning cheekily and crossing your arms.
    >2011
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)08:50 No.20416637
    I know it's a stupid source, but watch Pirates of Silicon Valley. Pretty much everything that wasn't clearly a dramatisation happened.

    Better yet, read the book.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)08:51 No.20416659
    >>20416265


    you don't have to use shitty computers to be a fan of the Woz, his glory is all encompassing
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)08:52 No.20416677
    Woz could make apple great, but jobs' cult wont allow it.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)09:33 No.20416847
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    >>20416677
    Oh god, just think if he got in charge.
    Just imagine how non-faggy Apple could be.
    Do want.
    >> !oMgfhAHAhA 10/06/11(Thu)09:35 No.20416856
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    >>20416677
    >>20416847
    teheehee.
    I heard you wanted apple less gay.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)09:39 No.20416886
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    >>20416856
    That's not going to happen, is it?
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)09:39 No.20416887
    >>20416265
    Woznak, my friend has exactly the same surname and he comes from pooland. So my question is: Does woznak have any polish part of his family?
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)09:39 No.20416890
    Just came home from dinner at my parents´ house. They asked me if I already knew that the visionary genius Jobs had died. I tried putting that "genius" crap into perspective and they got defensive and angry. Quite ridiculous, since they don´t even own one single Apple product (oh, wait, my father bought an iPhone last week despite me telling him that it´s shit).
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)09:40 No.20416903
    >>20416887
    It´s a polish name, do the math.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)09:49 No.20416991
    >>20416890

    >Despite me telling him that it's shit

    Oh, really Mr. Expert. What's so shit about the iPhone? It has great dev support, plenty of good little games, neat design... If you think it's shit because of the hardware well I don't think you need that much power on a phone to begin with.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)09:52 No.20417025
    >>20416991
    AppStore, for example. The idea of a proprietary distribution of software is disgusting.

    No fuck off and go mourning, fanboy.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)09:53 No.20417033
    >>20416991
    >It's so good it doesn't need good hardware

    I know you're trolling, but when people say this I cringe everytime
    >> Anon 10/06/11(Thu)09:54 No.20417046
    >>20416903
    >name
    >math
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)09:55 No.20417067
    >>20417025

    Why is it disgusting?

    >>20417033

    Ok, then. Tell me why should a phone need so much power?

    I'm no mac fanboy but you just hate for the sake of hating
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)09:58 No.20417093
    >>20417033

    Not when the software is fully optimized. Apple devs could make things run smooth even on a dated hardware, i think that says more about a tech company than just shoving hardware inside a piece of plastic
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)09:59 No.20417107
    >>20417025
    >>20417033
    >hating on the #1 smartphone of all time that changed mobile telephony
    Cry more
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:01 No.20417126
    >>20417107
    What I said I hate is this
    >It's so good it doesn't need good hardware
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:02 No.20417136
    >>20417126

    see >>20417093
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:02 No.20417143
    >>20417107
    >Implying that popular = good
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:03 No.20417148
    >>20416887
    You're not very smart, are you?

    Look up his ancestry. He's Polish-American and you would be shocked to find out Steve Job's ancestry. Do it.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:04 No.20417175
    >>20417126
    >>20417143
    >That's what butthurt haters actually believe
    Cry more
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:05 No.20417188
    >>20417143

    He didn't imply that. Without the iPhone we would still be using those nokia bricks. Without Jobs and Apple home computers would be something new to us. He popularized technology to all of us. Deal with it
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:07 No.20417203
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    >>20417188
    >Without Jobs and Apple home computers would be something new to us.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:07 No.20417208
    >>20417188
    no
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:09 No.20417224
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    >>20417188
    >without the iPhone we would still be using those nokia bricks
    Fuck off cunt. Heaps of other companies had smart phones.
    >Without Jobs and Apple home computers would be something new to us.
    Did you mean Gates? Microsoft brought us home computing you tit wank.
    >> There's this wonderful thing called stylus, try it BluX !c7ejyr/RUk 10/06/11(Thu)10:09 No.20417231
    >>20417188
    Without iPhone, people wouldn't be smudging their fingers all over the fucking screen of anything that looks like it can play Angry Birds.
    Yes, I hate when people touch screen with their fingers.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:09 No.20417234
    Apple wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Woz, maybe it would be a cart that sells apples, but Jobs definitely didn't know squat about making computers when they started, that was Woz
    Jobs was the salesperson.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:10 No.20417243
    >>20417224
    >Microsoft brought us home computing

    SO MUCH RETARD IT'S OVERFLOWING
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:10 No.20417245
    >>20416991
    >The App store
    >the DRM
    >iOS
    >hold it differently
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:11 No.20417269
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    >>20417243
    >implying gates didn't bring us computers for home
    >> BluX !c7ejyr/RUk 10/06/11(Thu)10:13 No.20417288
    >>20417269
    That was Commodore and Atari (or even Sinclair).
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:14 No.20417297
    >>20417269
    >implying microsoft invented personal or home computers
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:14 No.20417302
    >>20417269
    the C64? ZXSpectrum?
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:15 No.20417319
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    >>20417302
    >>20417288
    >>20417269
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:18 No.20417350
    >>20417148
    steve jobs is a sandnigger
    figures
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:19 No.20417362
    >>20417288
    >>20417297
    >>20417302
    >>20417319
    Nah Microsoft did it with Windows.
    Everyone knows that, retards.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:19 No.20417366
    >Article written in favour of Steve jobs by a Jew
    >Thinks not giving to charity is a good move
    >Jew

    http://www.businessinsider.com/10-unusual-things-i-didnt-know-about-steve-jobs-2011-2
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:20 No.20417376
    >>20417362
    Except that Windows 3.1 or whatever was the first one I got for my pc sucked so much that I stayed with DOS until 95 came out.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:22 No.20417411
    >>20417376
    >Except that Windows 3.1 or whatever was the first one I got for my pc sucked so much that I stayed with DOS until 95 came out.

    And they said Unity was bad.

    Id still rather use a GUI than use DOS. The commands for it are terrible
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:22 No.20417413
    >>20417107
    >>20417175
    wtf, came here from /tv/ and what do I see? avatard all over the place
    >> LAwLz !LAwLzaWU1A 10/06/11(Thu)10:24 No.20417437
    >>20417366
    >He made the game "Breakout".
    Bullshit! Woz made most if not all of the work on it and Steve then only payed Woz 375 dollars when they were actually payed 5000 dollars.


    OP do you want some dirty secrets about Steve Jobs? Here you go:

    >He has never donated to any charity.

    >The Atari incident where Steve and Woz wrote some code for the game "Breakout". Woz did most of the work and when the job was done Steve received a 5000 dollar bonus which he were to split with Woz, but he kept it a secret and just payed Woz 375 dollars and kept the rest of the money for himself.

    >Ignored his daughter for 2 years and let his ex-girlfriend and daughter live on welfare during that time.

    >Have been described as arrogant and unforgiving by his co-workers.
    >> BluX !c7ejyr/RUk 10/06/11(Thu)10:25 No.20417458
    >>20417362
    Windows was entirely irrelevant in late 80s and early 90s, most people were on DOS or Amiga/Atari well until 1996. Microsoft only got ground after Amiga and OS/2 croaked.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:26 No.20417472
    >>20417437
    That stuff was in the article you must have stopped reading.

    The jew tries to justify all the shit he did.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:26 No.20417473
    >>20416903
    >polish
    >math
    >topic of discussion is computer related

    Whether you realized it or not, you did something there and I saw it.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:27 No.20417477
    >>20417458
    When I first read that my mind replaced Windows with Microsoft and I wanted to slap you for saying
    >MS was irrelevant since most people were on DOS
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:34 No.20417594
    >>20416265
    > I don't remember where I read the info
    > would any of you happen to know some good sources which have that information?

    So in other words you're talking out your ass about shit you don't know about, op? Hhmmmm..?

    Yea Jobs might have fucked over Woz and maybe so did Gates, but that doesn't excuse YOU for sayin it happened if you don't know when, how or why.

    You fucking parrot. I bet you spew political talking points emailed to you by your drunk conspiracy theorizing uncle,too, don't you..
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:35 No.20417620
    Apple haters mad
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:38 No.20417672
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    >steal from WOZ
    >get cancer
    >burn in hell / reincarnated as dung beetle
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:40 No.20417704
    Steve Wozniak is just beta as fuck. Deal with it.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:41 No.20417729
    Things Steve Wozniak had absolutely nothing to do with:
    Anything after the Apple ][, including:
    iMac
    iPod
    Apple Stores
    iTunes Store
    iPhone
    iPad

    Basically, Woz did some cool things 30 years ago, but that's it.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:42 No.20417748
    get him to read iWoz. Wozniak's book. a great read. it shows how little jobs had to do with it for a while.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:45 No.20417807
    >>20417729
    >Not involved with:
    >iMac
    >iPod
    >Apple Stores
    >iTunes Store
    >iPhone
    >iPad

    that's why he doesn't get cancer, positive karma man
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:48 No.20417858
    >>20416265
    the way he's holding his arms bothers me, doesnt look natural
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:48 No.20417863
    >>20417093
    That is true, but any major tech company worth its salt should be able to do that, and Apple's only competition is extremely archaic and littered with anti-patterns.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/11(Thu)10:49 No.20417876
    >>20417858
    That's because he's trying to look like a ``cool dude'', which computer engineers can never do successfully.



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