Welcome to murrika.

Chances are he will never get it back. Its been known for a long time that homeland security just goes after random people just so they have an excuse for keeping expensive departments open. Shit like this is common, I wouldn't be surprised if the individuals related to the confiscation occasionally "lose" (See: Take home) items that are being searched.

But I'm already in the US.

/boot is encrypted
/home is eccrypted

Anything I download outside of the country I upload somewhere so if I can't get my laptop, I still have access to the files. Also, I make sure that when I do leave the country to do a complete wipe and re-install on my laptop. Then again, I'm the paranoid type.

Bought a bottle of Johnny Walker Double black in Madrid and went back to the states.
Homeland security took it from me, it was wrapped in the plastic they give you at the Duty Free, and they didn't even let me speak to his manager.
Lucky I had family waiting at the airport already for 2 hours and i didn't want to keep them waiting any longer, otherwise i would have made a goddamn scene and got my bottle back.

Land of the free, huh?

Are they still justifying this bullshit with "HURR BECAUSE TERRORISM"?

The trick is to never actually take the physical machine with you. Or failing that, leave your data at home and access only via the interbutt.

And make it a cheap lappie.

A friend of mine shipped a computer from Missouri to Woodstock ON to his future wife. By the time she received it after Customs got through it, it was physically broken.

And that was Canadian Customs, Before 9/11.

And just before you come back to the States, do a full restore or a wipe.

"What's on your computer, sir?"

"Nothing. It is wiped for work security reasons"

And away you go.

>>20272247
Only a bot.

>>20272117
Okay so we'll say I'm not already in the US for the sake of a hypothetical situation. I lose out on my laptop and they can get into my Steam account until I change the password. In other words I'm not worried because I don't store information like my credit card number on my computer.

>>20272284
> "HURR BECAUSE TERRORISM"?
Yup. Having a huge event for 9/11 every year seems to work great for geting the masses to agree with them.

Oh, and don't forget laws like "Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011", which has nothing to do with protecting children and everything to do with warrentless information gathering on everything you do online.

>Go right ahead sir.

>>20272342
I see you've visited 4chan. That's 10 years in a SuperMax prison.

>>20272360
Maybe if the guy was a vindictive reddit faggot

>>20272381
Redditors don't care about 4chan, they see 4chan as silly copycats trying to claim credit for Reddit's memes.

>>20272178
if he hires a lawyer, demands a speedy trial, and then when they decided not to prosecute, he can demand his stuff back. should not take too long.

>>20272331
everything like this is overused as fuck in moral panic
this has been going on for quite some while
look at this 2001 9/11
10 years later we can be anally fisted at an air port and have your dick show up on a public screen
terrorists have won

>>20272422
>Paying to get what's rightfully yours back because it was taken from you without an explanation as to why

How subtle are these security guys, anyway? Do they try to make it a convincing act, or do they more or less laugh at your face as they take your stuff?

I mean, it's extremely obvious that they claim the items as their own once they've seized them.

>coming to USA
>any time ever
Yeah, no.

>>20272444
unfortunately

>>20272324
>A friend of mine shipped a computer from Missouri to Woodstock ON to his future wife. By the time she received it after Customs got through it, it was physically broken.

>And that was Canadian Customs, Before 9/11.

>And just before you come back to the States, do a full restore or a wipe.

>"What's on your computer, sir?"

>"Nothing. It is wiped for work security reasons"

well, first off, sending stuff like this cross border will have results like this all the time, especially to canada. Second, a wipe after gov inspections is always good, because it is legal for them to install a malware to track your every move on the computer.

Also, if you travel with a blank laptop, they will question you even more heavily, and probably confiscate it too, for further analysis.

>>20272475
>it is legal for them to install a malware to track your every move on the computer
Are you fucking kidding me? That's some major league bullshit.

>>20272475
not that i am doubting but sauce?

>>20272444
there was an explanation on the search warrant, or the seizure form. I have copies of both of mine, and it tells you why they are taking, and what they can take. They have to be very specific. Overly broad warrants get thrown out, and overly broad searches get tossed all the time. See: Cell phone searches with no reason or cause in California, by California state patrol.

>>20272494
They can install bootkits and other shit on your laptop if you use full encryption and don't want to give your password away. That's why it's best to take your shit apart if you have something illegal on it and maybe buy a new motherboard or something.

>>20272494
nope, totally legal. Look up the FBIs own malware. If its in their custody, they can install it. DHS has a version too. Got it on my computers after I got them back.

>>20272422
lol speedy trial, you obviously have no real world experience with the US legal system. if HS is nice they'll give it back in 6 months, if you go to court expect 2-3 years till all the motions are filed.

also in some states speedy trial only applies if you can show that the prosecution is intentionally dragging its feet.

>>20272528
i should clarify, it was on my computers when I got them back, and it would not get flagged by AV.

LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA LOL AMERICA

>America
>Liberty
lol

>>20272475
>>legal for them to install malware

Shit really? In Canada or the USA? Both?


>> Orwell is rolling in his grave

>america
>freedom
pick one

>>20272538
my own case took two years of me trying to get my stuff back and a speedy trial, but it only took two weeks after i hired a lawyer(which was free cause he was a family friend). Lawyers do help, even if they cost.

>my laptop doesn't work without me.
Serious, bios lock(can be flashed however), truecrypt pass into a fake windows "starter" edition then a truecrypt hidden sector of "professional". My linux drive can be accessed easy, only use that if cgywin isn't working for some retarded reason.
If i was ever asked why have two os's(even though they have tough chance of getting in) i would state its for work security reasons.

They find my pirated anime and don't give a shit.
Besides, why would I take my computer to the US? The sockets are different over there.
I'm more worried about them going through my luggage and finding a dildo.

>>20272515
In his case it was blank in both the name of the confiscating officer and why they confiscated it.

They took everything though. Laptop, Cameras and his cellphone. How can they take his cellphone on top of all that?

>>20272553
probably both, if the US does it, then you can bet Canada does it. Hell, the DHS tries to get people to install it thru false sites and shit, just like other virus writers, but the difference is, the DHS version has been cleared by all AV.

>>20272572
>How can they take his cellphone on top of all that?

Because it was probably part of the warrant.
>In his case it was blank in both the name of the confiscating officer and why they confiscated it.

then he definitely needs to call a lawyer, as this is a technicality that will get it thrown out, and get his stuff back. Its gonna cost him to get his stuff back. This makes it quicker.

>>20272573
So how the fuck do you know you have it? Are there some tools to get rid of this shit? I'm not paranoid, but fuck, I'm getting mad as fuck here thinking that some fatass in America can track me, even though I live in Europe.

>>20272117
>mfw I'm a US citizen and it takes about 15 seconds to go through customs security
why are foreigners so mad? you go to another country and you follow its rules.

>>20272214
You leave and get it taken when you return.

>>20272600
He's a US citizen. He went to Canada to stream a tourney.

>>20272599
google "FBI malware" and you will see. It has a specific exe name, that changes very little, and has hidden exclusions written into every major AV on the market.

On my desktop, I have about 500GB of pirated anime, and a similar amount in western TV shows, movies, games, etc.

On my laptop, right now I have one anime series, two movies and a pirated version of Office 2010. I should be fairly safe.

>>20272600
Cause America wants to be WORLD POLICE.
9/11, ten years after and they still want people across the world to cry about it, tell me, how many innocents have been killed in the "war against terror" by America?

>>20272475

Elaborate.

>>20272636
oh goodie.
i get to use this image.

>>20272599
i dont know how you get a bootkit or get it off for specific
but a rootkit is near unremovable look up securom and read about it
i have all traces i can find of securom removed but it still come up when i play a game without disc
do registry files no appdata nothing but it is still there

>>20272633

Google "FBI malware" and you get over 9000 results pointing to malware *impersonating* the FBI.

>>20272642
canada is really tough on imports. They have extreme protectionist laws to protect their local economy. 99% of packages going into canada get opened and searched. Computers, and computer parts are checked for copyright infringing material, and illegal content.

Traveling with a blank laptop looks strange as hell from an outside perspective, because its non-functional. why would you carry around a non-functional laptop?

>>20272573
That's all kinds of fucked up. I don't really even know what to say.

I would never carry around personal data outside the country to avoid this problem altogether.

>>20272636
This, I really, really hate all this media shit about 9/11. I live 9 fucking thousand kilometers away from America and I don't give a shit about it, sure, it was bad people died, but FUCK, why the hell our TV is full of shit near September 9th? I don't fucking get it. It's not like Obama even knows where my country is. It's not like I give a shit about Obama. US will fail miserably in next few decades. Just look at shit that's happening now. Every dictator has his end.

>>20272636
number of people killed by USA is like 1/100th of number of people killed by Europeans in the past century.

Feels good to have USA world police on my side, rather than Europe world tyrant continuing to fuck over rest of the world more than USA ever could.

>>20272653
completly justified
i mean it was a small group of insane nut jobs that "had ties with the government in (placejewwordhere)astan" were they were based out of

>>20272664
I will try and wade thru the waters for the exact story about it. It was a Cnet news article with links.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9747666-7.html

the name is CIPAV.

>>20272710
and heres the original

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9746451-7.html

>>20272692
Different circumstances, different situation. That shit also happened 50 years ago, as opposed to it happening RIGHT NOW.

>>20272734
>shit on USA for killing 100k people in 2 countries
>someone points out that Europe killed tens of millions of people all around the world
>b-b-but that's different
keep making excuses Yurofags

>Make a thread that is technology related that is bound to turn into a yurope vs murrika thread
Subtle trolling OP, very nice.

Cool derailment of the thread into AMERICA SUXXX LOL XD WHAT DOES INFERIORITY COMPLEX MEAN

>>20272734
>50 years ago
>implying half of Europe isn't killing Libyan civilians as we speak
>implying France didn't just kill a whole bunch of Africans this summer

>>20272780

Amerifag here. The governments and administrations responsible for those millions of deaths in the twentieth century are no longer extant. So yes, there is a difference.

>>20272780
>talking about age of country.
Tell me, how many people have been killed by us aussies, also, how many aussies have died in helping your stupid war that's doing nothing but introducing debt into western society.

>>20272822
>aussie butthurt reply when no one was talking about Australia

>>20272814
>killing lybians
>killing negros
It's called pest control. And it awards ten achievement points.

>>20272840
>making a point about age of country, actually stated that.

>>20272656
You could try using a LiveCD or USB stick with some Linux distro on it to scan your PC. There is software designed to find and remove rootkits.

>>20272818
>pretending to be American
>implying a name change and a leadership swap absolves a nation or its people of crime
lol you Europeans are even worse than Americans at whitewashing history

>>20272653
One human is worth well over a million muslims.

>>20272656
to truly get rid of securom, you need to boot into a linux distro and delete the part of it that lies in your boot sector. Best bet: never get a sony product with it, or if you did, reinstall.

>>20272843
I chuckled.

>>20272901
Random anon. I would just wipe my HDD the moment i got it back.

>>20272886


one pile of steaming feces is well worth 1 million muslims

>>20272780
You're missing the point. No one is claiming that genocide can be justified, but you can't do shit about something that happened decades ago by the hands of people who are mostly dead by now.

The U.S. military is killing innocents TODAY, and for extremely dumb reasons; they're not conquering nations or establishing colonies, they're just pissing away money on an imaginary war. There's not a single reason they can't start pulling out their troops tomorrow. In fact, I thought Obama talked that very talk before being elected?

>>20272901
nope.avi
got securom on fallout3
install fallout on wine
run fallout
launches
securom crashes it says no disc inserted
disc inserted
allmyfuckingrage.png
i realize that securom was made multiplatform
i use FOMM but i would like being able to boot it straight from .exe