>>19995399
I saw this today. Anunimous és legíon. I do not fogive, & donut fargot or sumthing.
xd

>his country doesn't have the First Amerndment!

If you troll on facebook there's no way you can't get caught, facebook has ip's, email adresses and from that you can find someone.

>be a dick
>get punished
>hurr durr but what about MY rights??????????
stay classy /g/

>Going to jail for making fun of some dumb cunt

People want to live in England why exactly?

>>19995530
OP here, I know he was a dick and deserves what he gets, but from a technical point of view I just want to know how anonymous can you get?

>dat girl's face

what the fuck

>troll on web
>get b&

>troll irl
>get ???

I don't see whats wrong with the story.

>>19995530
>insult somebody
>go to jail
how's north korea this time of year?

lost at "disgusted and hurt"

Any thoughts on what ISP he was with? It doesn't say.

I'm reakoning it was Sky Broadband, myself.

>The magistrates were also asked to consider three other cases when sentencing Duffy, who the court heard suffers with alcohol problems and has Asperger's syndrome.
Too close to home /g/?

>>19995582
It was probably more harassment than a couple of insults.

dude looks like he's missing a chromosome
also
>Duffy had been diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome at an early age
and nothing of value was lost, there's more where that came from

the powers that be in the uk, and it follows, all of the uk, are offended by inflammatory posts on a message board

I, personally, am offended by the ignorance and moral hubris of the uk

can i ban them from social networking site?

>>19995428

>can't make fun of people in britain
>feels buchanan

>>19995582
Free speech != Do anything you want
And I don't think you know how North Korea works.

the dude has assburgers bro, go easy on him

>>19995652
of course not, free speech is SAY anything you want

anything less and it isnt really free, apparently in the uk youre faaar less than free

>Duffy posted images called 'Lauren's epifit' and 'Lauren's rotting body' and created a YouTube video with a picture of a coffin saying 'Happy Mothers Day'.

>He signed off the video with the sickening message: 'I don't know why you're all crying down there, it's soaking here in hell.'

>Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2036935/Sean-Duffy-Internet-troll-taunted-teenager-deaths-ja
iled-18-WEEKS.html#ixzz1XrqiHI7i

>Duffy posted videos of Natasha MacBryde (pictured) calling her 'Tasha the Tank Engine' with her face etched on the famous train

>Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2036935/Sean-Duffy-Internet-troll-taunted-teenager-deaths-ja
iled-18-WEEKS.html#ixzz1XrrJZOTz
>mfw

>>19995633
You stupid nigger, it's an EXTRA chromosome with down-syndrome.

>>19995428
I'm pretty sure there are slander laws in America.

Good for him. It's one thing to troll other aspies on a site pretty much meant for trolling but to harass and traumatized a young girl for his own amusement?

Fuck that guy

>>19995688
Ok I'll just follow you around all day while calling you a cunt. I'm sure you wouldn't mind then.
>Free speech lolz xD

>>19995709
slander is spoke, its libel faggot

>>19995688
You can't yell fire in a crowded theater when there is none.

>>19995737
i certainly wouldnt lock you in a steel cage for 18 weeks, nor would anyone allow me to do so

id probably just ignore you, tough concept, i know

>Implying America is any better
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenck_v._United_States

>>19995765
well i certainly can, in the us they can charge me for it, but just more proof that governments hate freedom

>>19995775
I break his fat nose, when I don't see any cameras. Fuck yeah America.

>>19995775
Lol fucking beta. I would knock him out and not even get in trouble because that's harassment.

>UK
Poor britfriends, they have terrible ideas
>implying you can't be completely Anonymous
Not that it is easy.

>>19995804
Sounds like the kind of freedom you want is anarchy. So edgy.

>>19995688
>free speech is SAY anything you want
hurr durr semantics

>>19995775
>Typical liberal beta as fuck
How did that balls removal go?

Dear fellow Britfags,

This is one of the few cases where the Americans are right. Don't defend this, it just makes us look worse.

>hurrdurr free speech = harass anyone I want lolz XD

>>19995843
well if you have any sort of political education youd know that freedom is anarchy, society limits freedom to control anarchy, its not edgy its a basic understanding of liberty and governement, what are you 12?

>>19995908
Where's Johnson when you need him

>positive and negative liberties

Free speech demands some responsibility. That guy managed to fuck it up, and so he paid the price.

When/if you grow up, you will understand.

>>19995908
I'm in a politics class right now discussing The Last Man by Fukuyama.

Freedom isn't black and white. Absolute freedom isn't desirable because of assholes.

>>19995908
You're a whiny faggot who doesn't know what he's talking about.

Oh shit. I remember the thread where /b/ trolled that girl. I feel guilty.

"Freedom is endangered all around the world today. It's endangered from governments that say that they're protecting us from terrorism or from pornography or whatever the threat the day happens to be. And we have to insist maintaining freedom above all." -rms

Everyone who is fighting for freedom, keep up the good fight freedom doesn't protect itself. Never listen to an apologist for tyranny.

>>19995428
>his country doesn't have laws against causing unnecessary distress

>>19995689
>daily mail

>>19995947
so weve got people who want to jail those who say things they dont like, liberal bashing, advocaters of violence, and a future neocon

time to reference nazi germany

>>19995969
>browses /b/

>>19996010
For traps.
Besides this was like 5 months ago.

>>19995947
The only restriction on freedom should be a restriction that stops you from infringing on the freedom of another. A law against murder or a law against stealing belongs in a free society. A law against speech does not.

Why are people defending this arsehole?

Who even does this?
I think "Trolling" has lost all meaning.

>>19996038
becuz ananymos is lejuin xxxxxDDDDDD

>>19996038
>mentaly retarded
>depressed
>alcoholic

>16 weeks in jail for making fun of some suicidal cunts

Why didnt they send him to a mental institution like he needs insted of hard jail where you learn to be a worse criminal.

>>19996037
"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.

he wrote the majority opinion that limited free speech in the above cited case

>>19995558
From a technical point of view, pretty anonymous
If you use Tor and use disposable email accounts, you're fairly safe.

>>19996055
I know man. In my day starting an Apple thread on forums was trolling. Now people seem to think it's acceptable to ruin people's lives and cause real suffering.
If this man was to go and beat the MacBryde family with an iron pipe he would be in jail, so I don't see why putting him in jail for verbal assault is any different.

>causing serious mental distress to girl's friends and family

DUR HUR I CAN SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT LOL FREE SPEECH.

Defend free speech all you want, but this isn't the case you are looking to back up your argument.

>>19996062
This is the English court system. He will probably be put in an open prison or given parole after 5 days.
18 weeks does not mean he's going to be in a maximum security prison for 18 weeks. He's not a murderer.

>>19996055
Never mind the fact that Usenet trolling was LOOONG before 4chan trolling and was completely different. And even still, nowadays "trolling" is really just a word used by the RaNdUM kids who use Know Your Meme and watch Ray William Johnson on Youtube.

>>19996073
My first may end where another man's nose begins, but where does my speech end?

>>19996156
fist*

>>19996106
>>19996129

You britfags are full on retarded, in the US we have groups of zealots that wait for coffins to arrive from the war and have signs that say THANK GOD FOR DEAD SOLDIERS

Yeah I don't like it, but deal with it nanny state nerds.

holmes wrote "the freedom of expression guaranteed by federal and state constitutions simply declared a common-law privilege to do harm, except in cases where the expression, in the circumstances in which it was uttered, posed a "clear and present danger"

mental distress is not clear and present danger, seems more likely to fall under the common law privilege to do harm part to me, of course, thats in america where we have a bill of rights

>go to the US
>shout: 'lol 9/11 is fucking funny, americans deserve that shit, stupid fucking niggers'
>get arrested

>>19996084
What's the opinion on Russian emails? People usually think Russia is safest because they don't give a shit, but do they?

We should be on this guy's side just out of principle.
They use one incident like this and guess what new anti trolling laws pop up.

>>19996199
funny, these wonderful people never go to jail

>>19996156
Freedom of speech is to cover political speech. That's why it was first created. The idea that you can express your views without the beef eaters coming and putting you in the tower.
Free speech does not mean you can turn up at a funeral of a solider and starting spitting on the corps. It does not mean you can tell people to commit crimes or to verbally abuse someone.

I really don't know what has happened, but the eduction system is failing if it's created a group of people who think free speech means you can do this.

>Tasha the Tank Engine
always gets me

>>19996084
I've studied anonymity systems for around 5 years, and I'll agree that it's fairly safe, if everything goes off without a hitch. If your Tor nodes are all in countries with data retention, and that can be reasonably expected to collaborate, you're fucked. If you get a bad entry and exit node, you're also fucked. Defending yourself from an Echelon style adversary is very difficult.

>>19996171
Those people were banned from the UK.
This is England and we will do things our way. You want to live in libertarian anarchy? Fine. I don't give two shits about your country.
I'm enjoying my country.

>>19996239
you are absolutely wrong, the supreme court ruled that political speech was not protected in the sedition act, using holmes test, against which holmes wrote the dissent claiming his test was misrepresented

>>19996239
Speech does not equal spitting on a corpse. Stop with your propaganda. As far as "telling someone to commit a crime", you can tell someone to commit a crime as far I care. It's their choice to commit the crime in the end. If they are committing it on your behalf, or on your organization's behalf, or you're involved in the planning of the crime, I believe you should be prosecuted. I also don't care if you protest a soldier's funeral and tell them to go to hell, as long as you do not physically disrupt the funeral, since that would be infringing on their right to hold it.

i'd try to be private online, but i've done given my full name to a social engineer before.

of course, it's been over a year since i've talked to her so hopefully she's forgotten about me...

>>19996319
Go to sleep, David.

>>19996194
Read up on the Magna Carta, Bill of Rights and the European Convention on Human Rights.

England had democracy before America did.

>>19996269
>we will do things our way
Good collectivist attitude, and what happens when the mob turns on you, or criminalises your speech?

>harass her and her family
>slanders everywhere
>get arrested
>/g/ goes all HURDURR Free Speech USA USA USA
>neckbeards
>thinking

>>19996358
You can't really say the same about either of them now, can you?

>>19996358
and yet still no free speech, odd huh

>>19996302
Telling a soldier to go to hell at his funereal is disruption. It should not be allowed. They should be arrested for public disorder.
Why do you think that people should be able to do what ever they want?
It is your human right to live without fear.

>>19996367
>harass her and her family
>deserve to be raped in jail

yeah, no.

>>19996246
You can set what countries you want your exit nodes to be in, though, and you can block malicious nodes.

>>19996409
in america, no one has the right to silence dissent

in england you have the right to a censored facebook wall

cheers

>>19996409
>telling him to go to hell at the funeral
>at the funeral
>as long as you do not physically disrupt the funeral
You freedom hating fascist types sure have convenient problems with reading comprehension, don't you? Being physically present at a funeral is not a requirement in protesting one.

>>19996413
>jail
>raped
That's not in USA, bro
And yes harasment is a crime, just think about it

>>19996364
That's protected by law. I can say what I want pretty much. But as a human being I would not troll a dead person's facebook page, so I have nothing to worry about.
That was and never should be covered under freedom of speech.
But like I said. I live in the UK and I have no problems with this. It seems that it's just a few American libertarians who actually think this should be legal.
Go complain about your own country. You have no say in our's anyway.

>>19996409
>It is your human right to live without fear.

then it's okay to tell a soldier to go to to hell without repercussions.

>>19996464
i never said it wasn't. i'm saying it's not worth being raped in jail.

i don't believe there's a good reason to believe that other countries' jails aren't rape houses.

>>19996474
>That's protected by law

until the majority votes to change the god damn law you god damn idiot.

>>19996379
>>19996402
Freedom of speech is protected in all 3.
Only a retard thinks this is covered by freedom of speech. It's an assault.

What fucking law did he break, again?

Freedom of Speech doesn't apply in the Western World, now?

>>19996532
according to liberals that love their democracy, it doesn't apply.

>>19996482
>dat american backwards thinking
What if some crazy man threatens you and your family with death every morning?

>>19996514
>pictures and words
>assault
How about no.

>America has free speech guiessss XD

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13289119

Same thing happened in America, you 'tards.
Looks like it's not so different on your side of the pond after all.

>>19996559
then he is a threat that needs to be dealt with.

>HURR DURR AMERICAN

shut the fuck up with your stupid nationalistic bullshit.

>>19996532
Hi! Thank you for contributing to the discussion.
Unfortunately it appears you haven't read the rest of the thread, where you would find that people have been discussing your question already! Please take care in future to read the thread carefully before posting, as it can be quite disrupting if you repeat someone else's point!

Thanks!

>>19996474
Having only some speech protected is about as good as having none protected. Plus, it's very subjective. Let's say, if the Queen died, and you said "I'm glad she's dead, stupid cunt." You think you should be prosecuted? Or would that be excusable since it's a "political opinion". As far as your point of "don't criticize my country, you don't live here" goes, that's pretty stupid, and you can whine some more, just don't try to send your police to come and arrest me over it.

>>19996482
Not at his funeral it's not.
Why would you even want to do that?
I hate 4chan sometimes. You're all basement dwelling retards.

>>19996436
A censored facebook page is a right. That family didn't have to press charges. But they have the right to do so.

>>19996625
>Not at his funeral it's not.
according to the principle, "It is your human right to live without fear."
yes it is.
if it's not your human right, then no problem.

>Why would you even want to do that?
i wouldn't.

>I hate 4chan sometimes. You're all basement dwelling retards.
...what?

>>19996474
>It seems that it's just a few American libertarians who actually think this should be legal.
I'm a European with socially conservative views and I don't think posting shit about a dead girl on YouTube and Facebook should warrant a police investigation or prosecution

>>19996511
No one would do that. No one believes in banning free speech. The people who do are using free speech to voice their opinion in the first place.

>>19996654
>you
>his point

>>19996625
>Not at his funeral it's not.
No one ever said it was at his funeral, you moron.

>>19996532
You have no idea what freedom of speech is.
It does not cover harassment. Not in the UK, not in France and not in the US.

>>19996683
Then you have a problem

>>19996712
>you don't believe in what I believe in!
>you have a mental problem!
Hilarious, honestly, living North Korea would be more suitable for people who think like you. You can still here with the freedom to spout your authoritarian nonsense, but don't thank yourself for that.

Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969), was a United States Supreme Court case based on the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. It held that government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless it is directed to inciting and likely to incite imminent lawless action. In particular, it overruled Ohio's criminal syndicalism statute, because that statute broadly prohibited the mere advocacy of violence. In the process, four prior Supreme Court decisions were invalidated:

Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47 (1919)
Abrams v. United States, 250 U.S. 616 (1919)
Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927)
Dennis v. United States, 341 U.S. 494 (1951)

>>19996578
that ruling will either be overturned or destroy whats left of free speech in this world

>>19996745
living in*

>overfed sheltered surburban gotfag talking nggermemes seriously shittier of the white race who would get cussed irl going to jail

im ok with this

>>19996745
what
>implying I said mental problem

>>19996769
It seems to be implied, when you tell someone they have a "problem" over their opinion.

more and more of our "rights" and "freedoms" are going to be ignored as we move closer to a revolution in america.

and it's going to be caused by an economic collapse, likely.

>>19996621
That would be a different case completely. You are not committing a crime by saying you hate the queen. That is covered by free speech.
What you can't get into your thick skull is that this is harassment.
You can't send hate mail to people threatening to kill them. It has always been illegal. It's illegal I the US too.
You are the one who is whining. You seem to think we want your Texas bullshit laws.

At least here in the UK we don't pretend to have completely free speech.

>>19996801
>You can't send hate mail to people threatening to kill them. It has always been illegal. It's illegal I the US too.
Who exactly has been threatened?

>>19996801
He never sent any messages threatening to kill anyone. He posted messages in a public space calling her a whore and making fun of her death. That's just about the same as calling the Queen a whore in the wake of her death, in a public space.

>>19996818
This has nothing to do with free speech.
All that happened was some American kid came on 4chan after his daily state school brainwashing, and starting spewing shit about how there should be no civil responsibilities.
Tell them to fuck off to somalia.

>>19996883
>This has nothing to do with free speech.
Just wait until calling anyone a "meanie name" in a public space will be illegal too.

When they said he was an aspi I started giggling.

>>19996873
No it's not. One is a deliberate attempt to cause distress to a grieving family. The other is an opinion.

You seem to be forgetting that this man was not expressing an opinion but deliberately causing distress.
A decent member of society would not do such things. I don't want to live in a society where it is legal to do what he did.

>>19996759
>trying to understand what that says

>>19996968
>"decent member of society"
JAWOHL MEIN FÜHRER

>>19996968
Who says it's an opinion or an attempt to cause grief? Maybe he wants to cause the Queen's family grief, we need to psychoanalyze these terrible people in order to fully understand how we should punish them. Bullying can _never_ be tolerated! Go back to kindergarten, you whiny, vengeful little shit, if you want to see everyone be made to play nice on the playground.

>>19995689
bitches don't know bout mah monosomy-21

>>19997017
The court system works on a case by case basis.
It is clear what is right and wrong. Criticising government is okay. Bulling a grieving family is not.
Why do you want it to be legal for people to do this?
Would you like it if they did this to your family?

It does not take away any of your freedom. It actually proves that you are protected against scum like this.
That family has suffered enough. You have no right to cause them more distress. And if you think you are disgusting.

>>19997110
If someone did this to my family, it would hurt, but I wouldn't go after them legally like a big child. You just have to deal with some things in life. I also talked specifically about the Queen's family, not about the government. Sure, they are part of the government (in a more ceremonial way than anything), but does that mean they get less protection? Do they have to "just deal with it" because they're part of the government? That's flawed and uneven logic.

>>19996968
>A decent member of society would not do such things.
"decent" is subjective. worthless really.

>I don't want to live in a society where it is legal to do what he did.
so? that doesn't mean anything to me.

>>19997110
>Would you like it if they did this to your family?
No, I wouldn't like it but my feelings shouldn't be protected by the law because I'm not a fucking baby

>>19997201

It's easy to say when you haven't lost a child or family member I guess.

id much rather live in the country with people insulting the deceased than the country with people in prison for their speech

just sayin'

>>19997166
>>19997201
The Queen is a different case completely. She is a government figure.
There are things that you can and can't do.
Why are you so fixated on laws being the same in every case?
I would expect the courts to rule not guilty if it was to happen to the royal family. But guilty when it happens to a dead school girl's family.
Harassment should not be legal. And the police and courts are there for you to use if needed. You don't have to take them to court if you don't want to. You have that choice. But you have no right to think you can harass a family.

>>19997225
Not him, but I lost a brother.
People made jokes about the cause of his death.
You don't see me creating a legal shitstorm over it.

So what kind of political agenda does this guy have with this? I'm not seeing the free speech argument here...

It's just verbal harassment.

>>19997308

>brother died

Was it HIV? dude get pozzed up with the gift?

>>19997238
This is harassment. It has nothing to do with free speech.
Happens in your country too.
Next you will say this is free speech:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13289119

>>19997334
autoerotic asphysiciation .
He was a dumbass.

>>19997311
School's out in America so all their kids have come to talk about 'Murrikan values, when really they have no idea what they're talking about.

I wish the Internet had more sensible Americans and less of these retards.

>>19997358

you slip a finger in his asshole when you found him?

>>19997390
If only I had the wherewithal to do so.

>>19997338
that is free speech.

lol he trolled the fuck outta a canuck and brit into killing themselves mfw

>>19997338
But that should be, you fucking idiot.
That man did nothing wrong.
I encourage you to kill yourself.
BRB, cops are here.

>>19997338
Committing suicide is not trivial. One should be really fucked up to do so, and they probably would do it with or without persuasion.

>mfw

>>19997415
>>19997424
It is aiding them in committing a crime.
if your were to persuade me to commit suicide and then I did it you would be responsible under US law.

>In one of the posts he called her a slut. He also posted a video on YouTube, entitled Tasha the Tank Engine, showing the children's character Thomas the Tank Engine with Miss MacBryde's face.

This guy deserves the death penalty.

>Tasha the Tank Engine

Hell yeah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCol9pkD6us

>people get offended
>JAIL MOTHERFUCKER

1. buy laptop from craigslist for cash
2. connect to coffee shop internet or other connection that you don't pay for
3. Go into anonymous is legion mode

Some things are funny to troll, but a 25 year old man laughing at a 15 year old girl committing suicide? He should get Cancer.

>>19997698
It was pretty funny, and so is that.

next thing you know the thought police will be formed and telescreens installed in every home

yet another citizen in jail and another story to distract us from the ass fucking at the hands of the rich

>>19997729
Will they be held responsible if I blame them for my inevitable suicide?

>>19997584
I know it's a crime.
I'm saying it shouldn't be.
If anybody makes life changing decisions (literally in this case) based upon what they read on the internet, they deserve the outcome.

All this tells me is that people are too sensitive today.

>do nothing wrong
>go to prison
That's the UK Police State for you

The guy's a fucking idiot. I think it's a waste of time sending him to jail, though. They should've just sent the Met to his house.

Jailing people for being stupid and/or rude doesn't make any sense. It's a waste of taxpayer money too (also, why do neo-cons want to jail everyone but hate govt. spending? It makes no sense!).

>>19995399
He probably saw this on /b/ whilst in his "apartment" (read: bedroom at his parents'. Brits don't have basements), and insulted that poor girl's friends from his real Facebook account.

Anyway, you sound curious about the technical side of this and don't sound like a /b/-tard who'll just use this to help your faggotry, so I'll give my two cents. If you wanted to be relatively anonymous on a site like Facebook, you'd need to do all of the following, and all via a proxy service (e.g., Tor). Using a new identity (Tor's term for using a new route of proxies) at each step, meaning that no more than one activity is seen to be done with one IP address.

1. Register using an email account with none of your real details
2. Register for Facebook using this account
3. Start using your account
4. Rinse and repeat

Even this, however, doesn't cover the (incredibly unlikely) eventuality that someone might access your computer and look at the browser cache, history or other trails to see what you've been doing. You could boot on a machine with no hard disk using a Linux live-CD, in addition to the above steps, to counter that.

Still, virtually nobody would ever need to take these steps as nobody actually cares what you do. Shit, I don't even delete my browser history (although I do encrypt my disk on notebooks, in case it's stolen).

>In the United States freedom of expression is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. There are several statutory and common law exceptions including obscenity, defamation, incitement, incitement to riot or imminent lawless action, fighting words, information decreed to be related to national security such as classified information, false advertising, perjury, harassment, privileged communications, trade secrets, copyright, patents, military conduct, and time, place and manner restrictions.

It's like you kids from the US don't even know the 'most important' amendment.

>>19995729

>traumatized girl

She was dead already.

>call you a faggot
>"you hurt my freedoms i'm calling the police"
>end up in prison with big nigger bubba

Banned from using social networking sites for 5 years? Isnt that practically ANYTHING online these days? Since everything is social, Even WoW.

>the article
>don't worry if you think it's ridiculous, at least he was autistic and had drinking problems!

>Bahh, anon hurt my feelings!
>Jail sentence, life ruined.
>Justice

>America is better it has free speech this guy is a patriot not a criminal xD

I think what our American friends fail to understand here is that the United Kingdom doesn't have a constitution (it's one of only two things to understand here). For clarification, I'm British, live in the US, and am not an idiot, so I feel I can speak on this with at least some accuracy.

As a former British colony, the United States's legal system (and constitution) is based mainly on common law. The right to freedom of speech and of the press are concepts from common law, but both are limited by things such as reasonable person's test (i.e., if a reasonable person would agree something is direct threats/harassment/riot incitement, it's not protectable speech).

To take the example of the dead: If I wrote a book criticising Ronald Reagan's political policy, and some Reagan-loving government official tried to ban that, they would not be able to as I have freedom of speech and thought.

If, however, I decided to start calling his family and insulting or threatening them repeatedly, I would probably be arrested for that. This would be true in the United States, and I don't think there are many judges or members of the public who would feel any sympathy for people doing this kind of thing.

>>19997962
/thread

>>19997729
It's happening to the Internet, and most people are okay with it complaining.

>who cares if they're keeping logs of everything you do, it's not like I have anything to hide!
>who cares if there's a camera in my house filming everything I do, it's not like I have anything to hide!

They should use openbook.org and convict everybody who says 'faggot'.

>>19997962
> States's
Stopped reading.

>>19998044
>Implying there's anything wrong with that

"United States" is a name. I'm adding apostrophe-"S" to indicate ownership. I could have just put an apostrophe there and got away with it, as some people do with words ending in S.

You can no longer make fake facebook accounts thanks to the fact you need a phone number,