Do you scrub behind your ears?

>>19890948
Unfortunately I don't. I do take showers daily though.

how much pizza can you eat?

>>19890955
That is not good sir!

Nother one, I suck horribly at mathematics, would computer science be a bad choice?

what are you going to waste it all on

>>19890990
Can't even remember the last time I had pizza. I've been trying to eat much healthier this summer. But if you offered Costco pizza I'd take it without a second thought.

2/4 year degree?
how much debt?
how much did mommie/daddie pay?
programmer / networking / helpdesk / chinese sweatshop?
weapon of choice?

are you a nigger?

that sounds perfect
in detail, what the fuck did you do?

>>19890993
Honestly I'm pretty terrible at math too, so don't let that discourage you from pursuing a computer science major. But you should only pursue computer science if you're genuinely interested in at least one of the many areas it involves (networking, databases, security, etc).

Most people are terrible at computer science, and it mostly has to do with the fact that they're in it for the money. If you want to do well in this major, you really need to like what you're doing. That goes for pretty much anything in life.

How big is your dick?
Are you a virgin?

what are you doing at your new job ? What programming languages are you using ? How did you find the job ? Did you negotiate your salary or was that what they laid out on the table ? The did you have a lot of options for work or was this the first thing that popped up ? Does any family members have any relation to the company ? What ethnicity are you ?

>>19891059
I'm curious whether to go into CS, CE, or maybe just computer programming. What should I do?

>>19891002
First and foremost, my student loans, then an apartment, then a car, then a new gaming rig, and then bitches, etc.

>>19891032
>2/4 year degree?
4
>how much debt?
Around 15k right now
>how much did mommie/daddie pay?
They paid a bit. I'd say around 1 or 2k.

>programmer / networking / helpdesk / chinese sweatshop?
Software engineer at a very very well-known company

>weapon of choice?
Shotgun. I don't consider myself skilled with guns so I'd prefer to use something with a large blast radius.

>are you a nigger?
Thankfully no.

>>19891044
I focused on an area that I really enjoyed and stuck to it. I made it clear on my resume and to my recruiters that I was fucking good at it, and that's what companies want to see. Not some guy who did a bit of everything but someone who is a specialist.

>getting a job only with comp sci
>90k
>no experience
>databases and networking
>permanent work
>implying OP doesn't cry himself to sleep

>>19891065
5.5 inches. And yes I'm a virgin :(

Unfortunately for every success story there will always be failures. Sacrificing social life was one of them.

>>19891059
>networking, databases, security
I lurve all three! Though I do not know about etcetera as liking it usually has turned out badly. To be serious, I really suck at math and can barely go past basic algebra, though learning a programing language seems to help in understanding it a lot easier.

>>19891070
>what are you doing at your new job ?
Software engineering. I develop a lot of different kinds of tools that are used within the company and outside.

>What programming languages are you using ?
bash, php, python, javascript. It really depends on the nature of the tool.

> How did you find the job ?
Dropped my resume off with the recruiter.

>Did you negotiate your salary or was that what they laid out on the table ?
No negotiation. Other companies couldn't match the offer and I was happy with it.

>The did you have a lot of options for work or was this the first thing that popped up ?
Yep, I was offered jobs at several big companies like Cisco and Sony.

>Does any family members have any relation to the company ?
Nope. However, I do want to point out that it's important to make a lot of friends in your classes. if I hadn't gotten the offers from these big companies, my friends had offered to help out by hooking me up with jobs at their smaller companies. It's a nice fallback to have.

>>19891104
4th Year AUSFAG here

Our setup is a bit different over here, I'm doing B.Eng majoring in software.

What's your most proficient programming language?

What programming projects did you work on to help concrete that language?

Any tips for getting work experience? I don't really want to apply for any real large development firms, but I can't get any names of companies to apply for because they all use middle-man recruiters to publish jobs...

>>19891076
Pick the area that interests you the most. You should definitely at least get a CS degree over just programming. A CS degree is hard to accomplish well and it gives you a lot of leverage over your average Joe programmer. A CE is harder to get than a CS degree, but you'll be rewarded with a lot more opportunities since working on the hardware level is pretty difficult.

Did you just graduate? From where? What did you do during school that you think got you where you are (as in internships, grades, getting connections)?

What's the average cost of living in your area?

You can get a job for $50k/yr in some areas and be a baller and 90k/yr in another and barely afford normal rent unless you have a 1-2hour commute.

I'm also an SE coming from a CE major. Picture related to what I do but for less than what you make, but 30k/yr above the average cost of living in my area.

>>19891234
>B.Eng
As in Bioengineering? If so, I have some bioengineering friends who have gone to work for some really big name companies like Amazon.

>What's your most proficient programming language?
That's a good question. I don't consider myself a master of any programming language honestly, I just pick the language that's right for the job. After a while it becomes fairly easy moving between languages, with the exception of functional languages.

>What programming projects did you work on to help concrete that language?
I did a lot of work automating a bunch of shit in my past internships and even during my homework assignments. I wrote scripts that did a bunch of shit for me while most other people kept manually doing them over and over again.

>Any tips for getting work experience? I don't really want to apply for any real large development firms, but I can't get any names of companies to apply for because they all use middle-man recruiters to publish jobs...
I would check out job fairs, job postings, LinkedIn, company websites, etc.

Why do you think anyone cares?
Why do you think /g/ isn't full 99% fatasses already in computer science or underaged retards planning on it?
Why do you think random people on an imageboard care about what some stranger makes a year?
Why do you think your "advice" would help anyone when the best advice is just to work hard and what you want to? Do you think you have some magic formula to getting a job?

>>19891288
I still have a year left in school. I won't say where I'm from, but you'd be surprised to hear that it's not a big-name school. Your school really doesn't matter when it comes applying for a job; I was competing against people who were from Ivy League.

>>19891363
Internships are key. No way I would have gotten this job if I had nothing on my resume. So go out and there and find a place to work.

Surprisingly, most companies don't care about your grades. But I would argue that it's important to have good grades because it opens up more opportunities (ex: graduate school), but most importantly some of it will become relevant to your work and even interviews. So do well in school!

Connections are important too. Recruiters get stacks of resumes at job fairs, so nothing makes them happier then for an intern or employee to refer someone. With this kind of hook-up you'll definitely get bumped up to express lane for an interview.

>>19891365

>B.Eng
>As in Bioengineering?

There is no way you went to university.

>>19891479
I've got 99 problems but a hater ain't one.

>>19891498

Looks like "fired for incompetency" might be one of those 99 problems.

>>19891512

Oh God, just woke up housemates laughing

>>19891363
Ah, here's someone who knows what the real numbers game is. I live in Silicon Valley, so yeah the prices here are much much higher than the national average. I can't give you accurate numbers just yet, but living costs was definitely factored into my decision as well as numerous other things like the work environment, benefits, etc.

congrats op!

i hope there are still jobs when i graduate in 2015 ):

how long did it take you to find the job? like after you graduated?

>>19891549
also how did you get the job???

did you have internships during college?

does someone you know work for where you are working now?

Do you think you still could of achieve all of this if you dropped out in high school and got a ged?

>>19891549
Thanks! I actually have one last year in college, so I'll be employed as soon as I graduate. The software industry is booming right now despite how fucked up our economy has become, so fear not!

>>19891572
4 years is a long time tho :T

hope it stays that way!

>>19891527
Sweet. So now we know to look for a big name company that would need software engineers in silicon valley.

Do you know Lisp?

>OP lives in Silicon Valley
>$90k

Thread over, you're painfully mediocre and so is your salary for the area you live in.

>>19891566
I had to go through several technical interviews. For my position they asked a lot about UNIX stuff like the correct regular expression to use for grep to comb through a directory of phone numbers, questions about data structures and sorting, etc. I studied a lot of interview questions beforehand (I recommend going to glassdoor.com).

I did have internships during college but they were at much smaller companies.

And no, I didn't know anyone working at this company before I applied. It's a useful thing to have so make a lot of friends! :)

It's Google isn't it?

>>19891621
what UC did you go to?

>>19891614

>implying you can't be a balla shot calla in Mountain View/East Bay/some parts of SF on 90k

>>19891571
Absolutely. The path is harder though, you don't have grades to keep you accountable in terms of enforcing a curriculum. But if you know the stuff (object-oriented design, language specific stuff, design patterns, etc) you'll be fine. Also, make sure you spend a lot of time doing projects; contribute on Github or something related to open-source.

Can you explain function currying to me?

Can I borrow 100$?

>>19890941
Why do I make more than you killing people?

OP first thank you for making this thread, very relevant to my current situation and helps tremendously. Now for my questions

- Are you employed while in school, or do you not start until you graduate?

- Would you rather be working for a startup or do you like the secure feeling of a larger company

- How many years/at how many different companies did you intern before this job?

- Did you do any non-profit work to show in a portfolio? (Fun projects, open source, patch submission, etc)?

>>19891252
I like CS and CE equally, though... I'll probably go with CE due to it being a less competitive field

>>19891644
The worst one.

>>19891692
Never even heard of it. Sorry.

>>19891707
Maybe once I actually start working..

>>19891722
I'm guessing because people pay more for kills than software.

>>19891725
Let me answer some of the questions for him.

>- Are you employed while in school, or do you not start until you graduate?

Read the fucking thread. He still has one year left of school.

>- Would you rather be working for a startup or do you like the secure feeling of a larger company

He stated that working for a smaller company is something he would fall back on.

>>19891753
Merced?

>>19891753
>I'm guessing because people pay more for kills than software.
Nah, I don't have any confirmed kills yet, but I think you should have gone with a gubbament job. More pay. General Schedule is the way to go.

>>19891571

It's very possible to get a 4 year degree after that and since more companies will look at your degree and skillset, I doubt a GED will really matter. However, if you're a retard then chances are you won't be able to learn how to program or anything about computer science so if that's why you dropped out then you're fucked.

>>19891731
Why not just go SE then?

>>19891725
>- Are you employed while in school, or do you not start until you graduate?
I don't start until I graduate. I would highly highly recommend not working while in school (working as in doing programming for a business, not sitting behind a desk at the library). I've done it and it's really hard to do.

>- Would you rather be working for a startup or do you like the secure feeling of a larger company
Great, great question. Honestly, I love working in a startup environment. I've been there and it's awesome. You definitely don't get paid as well but the feel you get coming into work doing something that will define the company is just priceless.. until it fails like 90% of all startups do (the startup I joined also failed :\). But I decided to go for a bigger company after graduation because of the security. I like knowing that I can pay off my loans, finally afford things I want, etc.

>- How many years/at how many different companies did you intern before this job?
I've interned at two different companies before this job, one was a startup and the other was a medium-sized business (three offices in the USA).

>- Did you do any non-profit work to show in a portfolio? (Fun projects, open source, patch submission, etc)?
I put some of my class projects as well as a small gig I helped out with on my resume. This is definitely something I could have improved on but oh well; you on the other hand should try to put this kind of stuff down on your own resume. I've heard lot's of recruiters saying they don't just want people who just do school stuff.

>>19891855
I haven't looked into that field as much. I'll take a look at it, though. I'm registering for CC this month and I'm not sure what classes to take. I'm going to work on an AA, but I guess I'll see how it pans out

>>19891870

Thanks man, much appreciated. Also, did you have any certifications before applying? Are these worth the time/money in your opinion?

>>19891792
I had that choice too. I used to want to work for defense, because I thought the shit they did was pretty fucking cool; I still do.

One recruiter was talking to me about how his company designed a helmet system where the pilot simply looks at a target and the guns on his plane point towards where the pilot looks. That's pretty fucking badass.

I don't know.. I might get into it if I feel it.

>>19891870
so I should work on my own stuff now to improve my chances of getting into an internship? I'm really lacking in the previous work experience area (also suck at networking for jobs)

>>19891921
>Certifications
Nah, I wouldn't bother. I've never seen them on a CS resume and I'm pretty sure most companies don't care about them.

>>19891961
Work on your own stuff, work on open-source stuff, work on other people's stuff. For my side project I helped out a friend who was doing some touchscreen stuff. You just need to go out there and be active; another tip is to join a club where people work on stuff like mobile apps, robots, etc. There's never a shortage of need for coding.

sounds good OP.
>freshman at San Jose State studying CS

>>19891621
That's an Amazon question.
And they did have to do that once.

It was on one of the more hilarious Steve Yegge's Amazonian Blog about Stuff. (Later, he saw the light, learned lisp, and joined google)