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  • File : 1309634594.jpg-(77 KB, 483x291, collegeadmissions.jpg)
    77 KB Court Strikes Down Michigan Ban on Race in College Admissions Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:23 No.18531293  
    >Michigan’s ban on using race and gender as a factor in admission to public colleges and universities was overturned today by a federal appeals court, which said the voter-approved measure harms minorities and is unconstitutional.

    >The 2-1 decision struck down Proposal 2, the 2006 law that had forced the University of Michigan and other state schools to revise their admission policies. The judges ruled that the law violates the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.

    >“It’s a great victory. It means affirmative action is legal again in college admissions. It means that thousands of talented black, Latino and Native Americans can go to our public universities,” Washington said.

    http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2011/07/court_strikes_d.php
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:24 No.18531309
    The Court has it backwards as to the equal protection clause. That clause says people will be treated equally, not some getting special consideration.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:24 No.18531310
    ohboyherewego.jpg
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:24 No.18531323
    >live in scandinavia
    >don't give a shit
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:25 No.18531328
    Since when would anyone that is talented want to go to american public schools?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:25 No.18531334
    >It means that thousands of talented black, Latino and Native Americans can go to our public universities,” Washington said.

    Uh, what was keeping them out? Since when does ANY University keep out “talented” blacks?

    Affirmative Action is used since they are NOT talented. They can’t pass the tests. They don’t have the ability THUS, they are let in due to the color of their skin ( an admission blacks are less intelligent than whites.)
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:25 No.18531337
    >nondiscriminatory admittance standards
    >unconstitutional

    whatthefuckamireading.jpg
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:26 No.18531343
    As a minority, I'm gonna have a lot of fun laughing at all the butthurt white boys ITT
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:26 No.18531350
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    i'm latino and i don't completely agree with affirmative action, then again i've had easy opportunities to advance while others have had a much harder time
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:27 No.18531364
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    Now let me get this straight - these “judges” think that a law BANNING the use of race and gender VIOLATES the equal protection clause! How does that make sense? Its really frightening to think that these mentally deranged idiots make decisions that affect millions of people.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:28 No.18531382
    >>18531343
    enjoy ur inferior genetics
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:28 No.18531387
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    >Judge Cole believes that his personal experiences of living in Birmingham through the most turbulent periods of the civil rights struggle prepared him for his current position as Circuit Judge. His interest in the justice system and equal rights were nurtured by those experiences, and he also developed a respect for the importance of a just and fair legal system.

    http://www.jtbf.org/index.php?src=directory&view=biographies&srctype=detail&refno=4
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:29 No.18531391
    >>18531350
    As a latino you will also be payed less than your white counterparts. If all these extra options are available to you, take advantage of them while you can.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:30 No.18531405
    >mfw affirmative action SHOULD be socio-economically based, not race (or gender) based
    >mfw dumb black girls at the wealthy private school i went to get into columbia, wharton, etc. they clearly had no disadvantage when it comes to opportunities.
    >> Olive !!A+UkSv7jG/0 07/02/11(Sat)15:30 No.18531412
    >mfw I'm part black and I think this is fucked up

    >"It means that thousands of talented black, Latino and Native Americans can go to our public universities,"

    So they wouldn't be able to without affirmative action? Nice to see people replacing one type of idiocy with another.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:31 No.18531420
    This is not technology.

    Go back to 4chon and /new/.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:31 No.18531428
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    >Martha Craig Daughtrey is an attorney, law professor and federal judge—the first Tennessee woman appointed to the U.S. Court of Appeals, Sixth Circuit (Nashville). She served on the Tennessee Supreme Court for three years before being nominated by Bill Clinton in 1993 to the federal bench.

    >Daughtrey is a past president of the National Association of Women Judges and the Women Judges' Fund for Justice.

    http://www.now.org/organization/conference/2005/speakers.html
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:32 No.18531442
    >>18531391

    no, it will be easier for him to get a job, because companies have to be "diverse". and if you ever dont get paid as much as someone else, just while its because of racial discrimination and then every liberal faggot will feel bad for you and sew the company for all the money you'll ever need
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:33 No.18531454
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    >>18531391
    Actually that is not true. Mestizos are overpaid relative to Whites.

    They are underpaid relative to Blacks, who benefit more from racial preferences than any other group.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:34 No.18531460
    >>18531343
    affirmative action hurts minorities. it's like women in the military, who are subjected to lower physical requirements for admittance. when a "minority" in a given job position, or college program, we know that they had to pass a lower hurdle than everyone else. we know that they are inferior, on average, than every non-"minority" who got a similar position or entered a similar program.

    basically, affirmative action takes away any credibility you may have to the merits of whatever station you rise to in life. now equal opportunity is completely different...
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:34 No.18531461
    >>18531382
    >inferior genetics

    Thats cute but being really sensitive to sunlight doesn't make you superior. Oh btw, ~99% of our genes are the same. Humans have less genetic diversity than most animals.
    >> sage sage 07/02/11(Sat)15:34 No.18531466
    sage
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:35 No.18531470
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    >>18531405
    lmfao, this. Wealthy blacks are simply using white-mans guilt and nigger stupidity to gain admission into highly competitive places. They know exactly what they are doing

    Pic related, on the left is blacks below the poverty line. On the right is blacks above the poverty line
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:36 No.18531494
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    >>18531387
    >>18531428
    Thank diversity for women and black judges.

    Without them who would disregard the constitution in order to push a liberal agenda?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:36 No.18531495
    unless minorities have an advantage, its
    >HURRRRR DURRRRR RACISM
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:37 No.18531513
    it's been a while since I took my philosophy of law class... but I believe the reasoning behind this sort of thing is that they are suffering racism.

    not racism in that the admissions people don't want to admit them because they are black/mexican, but because they are too fucking stupid to get in.

    multiply this by thousands of students, all the sudden you have apparent racism (I can't remember what it is called, but the idea is essentially that the inequality just sort of happened on it's own, not by the action of anyone). so to correct this 'apparent racism' they go out of their way to admit blacks/mexicans

    I'm a little hazy on this but I recall that U Michigan and some schools in CA were the landmark affirmative action cases. I'd have to read up on this but my gut tells me that this wouldn't pass a Supreme Court case... however the Supreme Court would likely decline to hear the case, ensuring that this injustice against upstanding white and asian american citizens will continue.
    >> Stop spamming my technology board with this shit, you fucking stormfaggots. No one cares. Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:38 No.18531520
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    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:38 No.18531534
    >>18531520

    Statistics is technology.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:39 No.18531538
    This type of policy (affirmative action in the US?) should work for those coming from disadvantaged socio-economic backgrounds (and it should make those eligible for the scheme work hard for it). Bringing race and gender into the equation seems highly counter-intuitive to the idea of egalitarianism--in the sense that everybody should have equal opportunities, especially regarding something like third-level education. Whether people take advantage of such opportunities is another matter.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:39 No.18531547
    >>18531520
    There's no /new/ anymore, so go cry to moot you faggot
    >> Shana :3 07/02/11(Sat)15:39 No.18531548
    >murrica
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:40 No.18531558
    >>18531534
    No, statistics is a science. Also, there's two better boards for this.

    >>>/sci/
    www.r9knew.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:40 No.18531560
    >>18531461
    >implying niggers and spics aren't animals
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:41 No.18531571
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5mLjKI968g
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:41 No.18531579
    >>18531558
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    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:43 No.18531609
    >“It’s a great victory. It means affirmative action is legal again in college admissions. It means that thousands of talented black, Latino and Native Americans can go to our public universities,” Washington said.

    i'm a 12 year old minority, and what is this?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:44 No.18531638
    >ITT: idk what affirmative action is but it's unfair
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:45 No.18531656
    >>18531609
    My HUGE problem with this, is that if they were so 'talented' why do they need an extra edge to get in?

    that said, I know a upstanding black male from my university who graduated at the top of his class in a difficult major at a competitive business school. leader of several clubs, respected by his peers and professors. I think his parents were doctors or something, but he sure did stand on his own merits, didn't need affirmative action to make him successful.

    this is the exception, not the norm.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:46 No.18531663
    >>18531609

    This is why I'll be applying to high-Asian population private schools for grad school.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:47 No.18531678
    >>18531638
    see
    >>18531513

    It is unfair, if they wanted to correct the problem with college admissions, they should start at primary education and communities, not just accept mediocre darkies so the 'finally' get a chance.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:48 No.18531700
    >>18531560
    They're animals in the same sense that every human is an animal. You sure aren't a fucking plant.
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    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:49 No.18531728
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    Liberals should be embarrassed to promote affirmative action policies because they draw attention of the fact that racial differences in average intelligence are significant and persistent.

    Affirmative action policies do not create opportunities. They take them from those who deserve them and give them to those who do not.

    Affirmative action policies reinforce prejudice because they advance members of politically favored minorities to positions where they are not able to perform adequately.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:49 No.18531732
    >>18531678

    >Implying that Kindergartens have exclusive admissions policies

    You're not really that retarded...are you?

    Perhaps you are.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:49 No.18531734
    >>18531656
    As we know:
    There are Black people
    And there are Niggers
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:50 No.18531751
    >>18531728

    >he thinks IQ is a reliable metric
    >laughingwhores.jpg
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:51 No.18531770
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    >…federal appeals court, which said the voter-approved measure harms minorities and is unconstitutional

    So it’s unconstitutional not to discriminate against white people now. What a wonderful country this has become.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:52 No.18531791
    >>18531728
    >Liberals should be embarrassed to promote affirmative action policies because they draw attention of the fact that racial differences in average intelligence are significant and persistent.

    in france it's even illegal.
    even racial statistics are illegal.
    you're either french or not. if you are more 'able' to do the job, you get the job (at least you should).
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:53 No.18531810
    >>18531770
    That image pictures directly to Sweden
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:53 No.18531814
    >>18531732
    >implying improving the quality of education in niggerville wouldn't improve the children's prospects of being admitted to a good school based on merit, not race

    oh what am I talking about, it's genetic!
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:54 No.18531830
    my ex girlfriend got her degree at wayne state, shes 4'10" so shes pretty short. the entire time she was there she was on edge due to loud mouthed niggers everywhere. not just black people, but true to life niggers. playing with basketballs in the hallways, pants falling off their asses, yelling at one another across campus, etc.

    race needs to play no factor and people need to get in on merits alone. in fact, it should be illegal to list race on an application anywhere so it ISNT considered when they accept you or not.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:55 No.18531837
    >>18531770
    >federal appeals court
    >Not SCOTUS

    Federal & 9th circuit is full of judges trying to make a name for themselves. They get overturned all the damn time.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:55 No.18531838
    >>18531732

    ???

    He's talking about addressing the lower achievement rates of minorities in primary and secondary education so they are actually prepared for post-secondary education and capable of getting into college without being given an unfair advantage in the admittance process over other groups. Part of the problem is culture as well. When you have a culture that discourages education, is it any surprise that achievement rates are low? This is the difference between minorities like east Asians (culturally tends to recognize the importance of education) and blacks and Hispanics (tend to care less about education).
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:55 No.18531841
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    >>18531810
    I heard Swedish media will actually photoshop criminals to make them look White.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:56 No.18531859
    >>18531814

    This certainly explains >>18531405, and points out the problem that is IS currently based on race, not income.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:58 No.18531891
    >>18531838
    so you need to teach their parents that "herp derp skool is gud, u can get a gud job and muny if u go"?

    beaners dont care about that, because they know they can get a manual labor job and send it back to their families in mexico, and after 5 years they go back and live like a king for 15 years. and niggers dont care, because they sling or do rocks, and to get money for said occupations, they rob people.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:58 No.18531894
    >>18531791

    The French are also some of the most racist and xenophobic fucks in Europe.

    Just out of curiosity, what's the status of affirmative action in the rest of Europe? Is it common over there or not really used?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:58 No.18531900
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    >>18531728

    >confirmed for not knowing how affirmative action works

    Don't be fucking retarded. AA doesn't replace anyone in the top 50% of college admissions. It replaces those on the bottom half of the admission rosters.

    If a smart white kid has good or average grades, and a smart black or asian kid has good or average grades, but there is only one spot available between the two, AA kicks in and chooses the black or asian kid.

    That's AA. And if that pisses you off then complain about how they admit children of wealthy benefactors over kids that have the grades to get in.

    Republicanism is a cancer of the brain. The facts are right there for all to see but you'd rather rage against some supposed liberal agenda. What a fag.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:58 No.18531903
    You can guarantee, this same law school, and the same state of Michigan will teach students whites all have ‘white privilege’.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:59 No.18531916
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    >be standard Chinese male with high SAT, flawless GPA, shit ton of extracurriculars, near-perfect applicant
    >know that I'll be rejected from the top-tier universities even while underrepresented racial minorities with sub-2000 SATs and 3.0 GPAs will easily get in
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)15:59 No.18531920
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    Quotas for minorities like blacks, women and homosexuals are the bast way to make access to education fair
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:00 No.18531933
    >>18531814

    >Implying that the lacking quality of education in the ghetto isn't due to the fact that schools are funded primarily through local property taxes

    >Implying that property values aren't shite in the ghetto

    >Implying talented teachers would choose to work in a more dangerous work environment for less pay when they could choose to work in a safer school district for more pay.

    Fucking Economics, how do they work?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:00 No.18531939
    liberalism is a curse and a plague. these sick fucks must be eradicated
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:00 No.18531940
    >>18531916
    not true, i know a few of you who did fantastically
    dont be such a bitch
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:00 No.18531944
    >>18531916

    Being Asian ain't easy in this country. You can thank AA for that, you guys need to stop being so damn successful.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:00 No.18531946
    >>18531900

    >If a smart white kid has good or average grades, and a smart black or asian kid has good or average grades, but there is only one spot available between the two, AA kicks in and chooses the black or asian kid.
    >AA kicks in and chooses the black or asian kid.
    >or asian kid

    NOPE. Asians are harmed more than whites due to AA.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:00 No.18531947
    reported
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:01 No.18531949
    >>18531900
    Just pointing something out--
    I don't think you actually understand AA. In college admissions, it only benefits underrepresented racial minorities, as I pointed out in >>18531916: it actually hurts Asians, because they constitute such a disproportionately large portion of top-tier college applicants. You could even argue that as far as college admissions go, being Asian is the worst race you can be.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:01 No.18531951
    >Michigan’s ban on using race and gender as a factor in admission
    Oh so discriminating based on race and gender WAS ILLEGAL.
    So who is the racist now?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:01 No.18531959
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    >>18531900
    But you're either lying or horribly misinformed.

    Affirmative Action admits Blacks with lower grades over Whites and Asians who score higher.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:01 No.18531961
    >>18531900
    The way I've seen colleges accept new people, at least ones that have to have a required number of minorities, if one spot is left, and an excelling student who is white applies, and a non-excelling student who is a minority applies, and they're low in that one minority to meet their quotas, they'll fuck over the white one to get their numbers.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:01 No.18531962
    >>18531859
    yeah, they're both right.
    there should be positive action on social criteria.
    that's what socialists do in soviet europe.
    they don't fight for equality of races or minorities, but for equality of rights for everyone, even if they were born in a trailer and are white asses like eminem.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:01 No.18531967
    >>18531916
    take a year out, they'll offer you next year
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:02 No.18531980
    >>18531894
    >what's the status of affirmative action in the rest of Europe?

    Dunno about the rest of Europe but in the UK it's pretty much a case of "Eh, who cares?". As in "Eh, who cares what colour your skin is or what country you're from?". That's at least true in IT. Dunno about other industry

    "Affirmative action" is certainly not a common meme. The common collective seems to be that we just don't need it. We're a nation of bastards after all.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:03 No.18532000
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    >>18531949

    >being Asian is the worst race you can be

    Nope.

    That would be Jews, thank you very much.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:03 No.18532011
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    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:04 No.18532021
    >>18531894
    Even more than Finland?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:04 No.18532024
    >>18531933
    >implying we should give these poor, violent (according to you) scum a leg up

    All you faggots should read the Gratz, Grutter, and Bakke Supreme Court cases.

    this ruling will (should) be overturned. schools can use race in a factor to promote a diverse student body, not give retard niggers that otherwise couldn't get in a chance.

    interestingly, the court ADMITS in Grutter that the system is ILLEGAL and should be fazed out over time.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:04 No.18532029
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    >>18531951
    Liberals, who insist on judging people based on race and extending special privileges to certain racial groups.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:05 No.18532033
    >>18531933

    Nope.avi

    Inner-city schools tend to get more money than other schools (through state and federal programs like Title I) and still perform worse.

    Like I said, the problem is mostly cultural. You have a society that looks down on education because it's "acting white."
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:05 No.18532043
    >>18531959
    >Jews
    >White
    >Implying Jews are not White

    Damn racism, how does it work?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:05 No.18532057
    if minorities aren't intelligent to get into school by being our genetic equals; why do they need special treatment if they're our equals; and race doesn't matter?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:06 No.18532062
    >>18532024

    >Implying that elementary school students are the ones selling crack and doing drive-bys in the ghetto.

    Full. Fucking. Retard.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:06 No.18532066
    Goddammit
    Fuck women
    Fuck niggers
    Fuck liberals
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:06 No.18532071
    >>18532033
    Yes, but the way to fix the problem is emphatically not through a method that unfairly curbs the rights and liberties of others.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:06 No.18532079
    >“…overturned today by a federal appeals court, which said the voter-approved measure harms minorities and is unconstitutional.”

    Do we need any more proof that voting is now irrelevant?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:07 No.18532087
    >>18531961
    using a quota system is ILLEGAL dipshit

    the only way schools get around this is by using fuzzy math and saying 'yeah, this number of niggers being admitted this year feels right'
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:08 No.18532102
    >>18532087
    So they are using quotas.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:08 No.18532108
    how the hell did W bush get into yale and harvard?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:08 No.18532112
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    >>he thinks IQ is a reliable metric
    >he thinks it isn't
    >he still doesn't know that "the mismeasure of man" is biased and plain wrong and was never taken seriously in psychometry

    http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:09 No.18532116
    >>18532033

    >Inner-city schools tend to get more money than other schools

    [Citation needed]

    Inb4: Affluent Suburbans districts passed off as "inner city districts" and one district in DC which admittedly gets a lot.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:09 No.18532117
    >>18531334
    shouldn't it be like that for all post secondary schools? if you cannot pass the test, you are not allowed admission. when you pass, then you get in. i passed my school's entrance exam with flying colours. half the math exam was stuff i didn't actually study, but picked up now and then. that portion i scored 80% rather than the zero that was expected. i'm black btw.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:09 No.18532119
    as a black guy, i say fuck affirmative action.
    it's insulting. it basically says "you're not good enough and we know you'll never be good enough so we're just going to give you everything you need."
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:09 No.18532122
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    >>18532043
    Jews only pretend to be White when they are attacking White people.

    As you can see, there is almost perfect separation between the Jewish and non-Jewish clusters here.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:09 No.18532128
    >>18532079
    You can’t put everything to a referendum… That’s not how a democracy works. You don’t vote on every fucking thing that you can think of.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:10 No.18532137
    guise, guise, you're forgetting something! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:10 No.18532138
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    >>18532122
    As you can see here, the interesting point is that Jewish ancestral quanta is roughly predictive of genetic position. This shouldn’t be that surprising once we know that Jews and non-Jews separate so cleanly (e.g., someone who is biracial would be located between their two parent racial clusters on any plot), but it is striking nonetheless in reaffirming the genetic reality of Jewishness.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:10 No.18532139
    >>18532108
    Pops was the Director of CIA, duh.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:10 No.18532153
    >>18531961

    That "excelling" white student had worse grades than the other white kids he was "competing" against which had a similar background to his. He lost out in that race and was replaced by a student deemed underrepresented.

    >>18531959

    Not exclusively. You can't run away from this simple fact. My analogy is accurate. It just so happens that at higher universities (like harvard), the lower-hanging fruit have really good grades as well. And those are the applicants that get replaced.

    >>18531946

    Harmed only in the sense of whites being "harmed." They're not. There are a ton of Asians at all universities.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:11 No.18532159
    Look: blacks complain they're being held back. Black males are more likely to die in a violent assault than any other class of citizen. Black males make up the majority of the prison population, both at the the state and federal level. Black males are more likely to be addicted to hard drugs.

    A black man is President of the United States of America.

    So: is it society holding black men back, or just that the majority of black men are feckless drug addicts who can't be bothered to even try?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:11 No.18532163
    So, I wonder. In the US, you can basically call yourself whatever race you want. Can an asian just call himself "african-american" on the questionnaire to avoid getting discriminated against under AA? I considered doing this, but I was too pussy to go through with it.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:11 No.18532168
    >>18532000
    jevvs are just whites as far as AA goes which is a great advantage since they would be more discriminated against if they were seen as separate group due to their high over representation in elite universities.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:11 No.18532169
    >>18532138
    what do the nunmbers represent?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:12 No.18532178
    what happens when the minorities decide who gets admitted into college?

    the economy collapses; people invest overseas; people move jobs overseas.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:13 No.18532189
    At my university, which is a state school we have a very similar problem. It is mainly with one demographic of males, see, my state is very generous towards them, not only is their school paid for they are given an additional 1k stipend per semester if they are an in state resident. They will not go to their classes, they will just hang out in the dorms, getting free room and board. Of course at the end of the semester they typically fail out or get put on probationary status. They then go home for the summer and reapply to a different university getting the same perks. Now after four times or so the state eventually shuts them down. The money is one thing, but these gentlemen are taking university slots for students who would actually attend classes and obtain a degree.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:13 No.18532200
    >>18532189
    which state and schools?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:13 No.18532202
    >>18532108
    same way obama did with just as bad grades (even though he appears smarter)
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:13 No.18532205
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    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:14 No.18532210
    i think the usa are too much racist to give right opportunities to some racial minorities, even if i'm against affirmative action, you don't have the choice.
    if grandpa was hanging niggers to a tree, there are a few chances that grandson hires black people. it's your whole history, and culture, it can't be dealt with without some racial policies.
    (same for many european countries and their former colonialism btw...).
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:14 No.18532215
    >>18532153
    >. There are a ton of Asians at all universities.
    That's not the damn point. Asians that would otherwise be able to get in are unable to get in because of AA.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:14 No.18532220
    >>18532163

    Yes. Lying on an application is a good way to insure your application is accepted.

    Thanks for playing.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:15 No.18532236
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    >Harmed only in the sense of whites being "harmed." They're not.
    Discriminating against someone in admissions due to their race is most certainly harm done to them. Especially when they worked hard under the pretense that they will be judged based on merit.

    You can put harm in quotes all you want, it won't change the fact you are causing harm when you discriminate against them.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:15 No.18532238
    >>18532200
    pennsylvania, they are able to do this at any of the state funded colleges. Rumor is this program might be getting shut down via the budget cuts for the 2012 fiscal year.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:15 No.18532239
    >>18532153

    >There are a ton of Asians at all universities.

    Not enough. I'm an intelligent white male, and I hate the fact that some Asian was probably denied admission, with higher SAT/GPA and more extracurriculars than me, because too many Asians were already accepted, and his spot was given to me.

    It only makes sense for any given student to be looked at as Student 483943245, instead of W. Zhao - Chinese.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:15 No.18532242
    >>18532220
    It's not a lie. All homo sapiens have african ancestors.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:16 No.18532246
    >>18532112

    Don't be a fucking dolt.

    It is well established that one's emotional mindset can cause a significant swing in one's IQ score.

    Given that an incredibly large segment of African Americans live in dangerous ghettos (compared to whites living largely in safer suburbs and rural areas), it's hardly a specious conclusion to say that emotional factors are diminishing the average IQ score of African Americans.

    What's more, there is test bias to consider as well.

    Take the following analogy problems for an example:

    Car:Race::Yacht:???
    A. Flotilla
    B. Regatta
    C. Armada
    D. Marina

    Stick:Hockey::Skis:???
    A. Snow
    B. Slalom
    C. Winter
    D. Water

    Even an incredibly bright inner city African American could potentially have no clue what a Regatta or Slalom is, while even relatively stupid, rich white kids would know what both are.

    IQ is most assuredly a flawed metric, plain and simple.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:17 No.18532275
    >>18532202

    True. W was Editor of the Harvard Review and graduated with honors.

    Oh wait.

    Can anyone tell me how John McCain did at his Academy?

    Funny how dumb white people have an excuse, but poor grades by a black kid is a sign he's retarded.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:17 No.18532277
    >>18532246
    I don't know what "regatta" or "slalom" mean either, but all of the other words are so commonplace that I wouldn't have any trouble with those questions--obviously if it's not A, C, or D, then it must be B, etc.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:17 No.18532280
    >>18532246
    >test bias
    that's a problem with the test design, not the metric
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:18 No.18532287
    >>18532210
    this is bullshit and any attempts to fix a problem based on your lack of faith in what may occur will only create a real problem like what we have now.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:18 No.18532291
    >>18532246
    actually this problem was addressed, about a decade ago and these questions we removed, if you want to see more information on it, google yellow and brown bananas and IQ test. They are slowly shifting the test to be 100% abstract concepts for this reason.
    >> FAGGATRON_3000 !U0FKfqmRjs 07/02/11(Sat)16:18 No.18532304
    >>18531900
    > asian kid
    > AA

    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    If anything, AA harms gooks, and whites while benefiting blacks or spics.

    But here is the good part: it's not economic - it will still keep universities the domain of the rich and privileged. Niggers of all races will still be kept out.

    I'm somewhat okay with this.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:19 No.18532311
    >>18532246
    >Given that an incredibly large segment of African Americans live in dangerous ghettos (compared to whites living largely in safer suburbs and rural areas), it's hardly a specious conclusion to say that emotional factors are diminishing the average IQ score of African Americans.
    Oh, for fuck's sake.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:19 No.18532330
    >>18532246
    protip: the heritability of intelligence has already been proven. blacks with high iq parents are more often born with low IQs, proving low IQs in blacks is hereditary. also blacks born into white families rich families or anything else still have lower IQs than other races in equal and even lower socioeconomic positions.

    stop believing everything you hear on MTV and the Maddow show, liberal faggot
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:20 No.18532336
    >>18532277
    >nigger detected
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:20 No.18532341
    >>18532239
    this. exactly this. if you simply do not have the grades to get in, you do not have the grades to get in. it is that simple. this affirmative action is not necessary.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:20 No.18532342
    AA is racist, no matter how you frame it.
    >IT'S HELPING THE NEEDY.
    Oh yeah? The needy and unneedy are all cleanly divided by race? Fuck you. There are rich as fuck black kids and poor as fuck asian kids. That asian kid deserves just as much help as any poor person. It's a tragedy that poor bright asian students can lose spots to average rich black students.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:20 No.18532346
    >>18532215

    That is the point actually. "Asians" aren't harmed. Only a few Asians kids that didn't measure up to the rest of their colleagues.

    >>18532236

    I'm not sure the correct term for it is "harm," though. You knew the rules of the game: get better grades than the lower-half of the white applicants at your university of choice. Fail to do so and you risk being replaced by a black kid striving to get the same education you're seeking.

    Looks like you failed.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:20 No.18532350
    >>18532246
    Except that black actually score worse on non-verbal than they do on verbal tests.

    Why do people repeat theories that have been tested and proven wrong?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:21 No.18532365
    >>18532210

    Asians were discriminated against throughout much of US history as well. Japanese-Americans were stuck in fucking internment camps during WW2, but I don't see Japanese people bitching about how this kept them down and prevented this from achieving.

    Whining about past injustices is not productive. Nothing is preventing African Americans from achieving today *if* they are willing to become educated and put in the effort.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:22 No.18532374
    >>18532350
    How is it our fault they're too retarded to read? Everyone else is expected to be able to read.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:22 No.18532379
    >>18532239

    In a perfect world, I'd agree completely. But you're missing the entire point of AA. It's designed to improve our society as a whole by providing a great education to underrepresented kids from challenging backgrounds.

    It's not a perfect system. It never claimed to be.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:23 No.18532394
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    >It is well established that one's emotional mindset can cause a significant swing in one's IQ score.
    This is actually not true. The whole "stereotype threat" and other such nonsense never panned out.

    >What's more, there is test bias to consider as well.
    Our results indicate that there is consensus among experts in the science of mental abilities that g is an important, non-trivial determinant (or at least predictor) of important real world outcomes for which there is no substitute, and that tests of g are valid and generally free from racial bias.

    http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.intell.2008.03.007
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:23 No.18532403
    >>18532277
    That's not the point you little fuck.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:24 No.18532405
    As long as there are ghettos, there will be affirmative action
    Also lower income whites also get privileges
    deal with it
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:24 No.18532412
    Sure is stormfrontfags in here, if you are going to stay on 4chan could you at least take it to >>>/int/ since moot got rid of /new/
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:24 No.18532421
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    The heritability of intelligence is now well established from numerous adoption, twin, and family studies. Particularly noteworthy are the genetic contributions of around 80% found in adult twins reared apart. And most transracial adoption studies provide evidence for the heritability of racial differences in IQ. For instance, Korean and Vietnamese children adopted into white American and white Belgian homes were examined in studies by E.A. Clark and J. Hanisee, by M. Frydman and R. Lynn, and by M. Winick et al. Many had been hospitalized for malnutrition. But they went on to develop IQs ten or more points higher than their adoptive national norms. By contrast, the famous Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study marked black/white differences emerged by age 17 even though the black children had been reared in white middle-class families (Weinberg, Scarr & Waldman, 1992).
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:25 No.18532428
    >>18532379

    See >>18531405

    >>mfw dumb black girls at the wealthy private school i went to get into columbia, wharton, etc. they clearly had no disadvantage when it comes to opportunities.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:25 No.18532437
    >>18532246
    anyone who watches tv and reads books would know what a fucking regatta is and what slalom is. i'm black, never been on a boat and can't even swim, knows what a fucking regatta is. as for slalom, seriously? never seen the olympics? fucking shit man, your example is retarded. how can any literate adult not know what these two things are?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:25 No.18532441
    >>18532330
    >blacks with high iq parents are more often born with low IQs, proving low IQs in blacks is hereditary
    How exactly do you test a person's IQ at birth?

    >blacks born into white families rich families or anything else still have lower IQs than other races in equal and even lower socioeconomic positions.
    That can just as easily be caused by African-American culture, which, personally, I think it is.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:26 No.18532451
    >>18532304

    You're okay with it because you're racist. Which is fine by me. The fuck do I care what you do and don't like. But it's not okay for you to suppress an entire group of people (for whatever reason) in my country.

    So continue being a faggot--er, racist--and I'll continue to watch out for the welfare of my fellow Americans.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:26 No.18532452
    >>18532246
    http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/pppl1.pdf

    Read this because you're wrong as fuck (due to the fact that blacks score the same or even worse on "cultural-fair" and "non-verbal" tests.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:26 No.18532458
    >>18532441
    >That can just as easily be caused by African-American culture, which, personally, I think it is.
    >African-American culture
    >In a white family
    WhatthefuckamIreading.jpg
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:26 No.18532461
    As a billionaire; and a realist. I understand the affect non-whites have on the economy; affirmative action required me to hire people who did not deserve the job. These people proved to be lazy; and of below average than expected intellect.

    I will say that these people where 95% of the time minorities; blacks; latinos. Of my employee base I drug tested; blacks;latinos failed the majority of the time.

    I was literally forced to send jobs overseas to discriminating countries in order to get the right people in; asians; and whites.

    When it comes down to it, the lesser races should be sterilized or else we face a world of dumb people out breeding the intelligent ones.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:26 No.18532463
    >>18532405
    >Also lower income whites also get privileges

    Not the same privileges as lower income minorities. And therein lies the problem.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:27 No.18532475
    my university was over fucking run by indian students. why? because the government gives the school money for having so many, to "support a diversified work place".

    there are indian ethnicity clubs and meetings.
    when we started up a white ethnicity club, just as a laugh (actually all we did was played fucking d&d...) we got immediately shut down, for being racist. ...even though we said fuck you and continued to play d&d and bring in consoles and shit to play on the projectors in empty classrooms.

    there are indian cultural days like once every couple months. we petitioned for a white cultural day, and they denied us on racist grounds.

    there was some other indian thing, i dont remember what it was called, but basically what happened was indians who werent students get to sit in on classes and see what it was like to be in a college setting.

    we renamed our white thing, because at the other two we tried to make, we had the only two black guys in the cs building with us and a bunch of asians, and even a jew, the only one there, and called it the non-indian equivalent, open to everyone who wasnt indian, and STILL got turned down. in fact, as this was the third "infraction" of their rules, we were threatened that if we continued to do such things, they wouldnt let us graduate.

    god damn pakis. its not like theyre better with computers, every single TA was indian, and none of them new how to code, in my fucking operating systems class, we had to do it in unix on c, and they didnt know how to work the shit. not even the most basic of commands. shits uncool.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:27 No.18532483
    I'm native american
    you jelly?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:28 No.18532499
    >>18532461

    This is why I, as a white man, plan on moving to Singapore. Will most of my coworkers be more intelligent and harder working than me? Probably. Will I be lazy and dumb? Hell to the no.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:28 No.18532509
    >>18532461
    >billionare
    >browsing 4chan
    Hahahahahahaha!
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:29 No.18532528
    >>18532483
    North East Asian here. No.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:29 No.18532531
    >>18532394

    >stereotype threat

    I'm not talking about "stereotype threat".

    It is common knowledge that emotional duress cause the brain to limit its higher functioning and revert back to more primordial, "Fight or Flight" style cognition.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:30 No.18532541
    >>18532330
    how is a black person born into a family other than black? a mixed household i can see, but a completely different colour?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:30 No.18532547
    >>18532405
    and as long as large numbers of black people live in close proximity there will always be ghettos.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:31 No.18532561
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    Because differences in material resources across a broad range of family circumstances seem to have no demonstrable effect on IQ by late adolescence, culture-only theories have now begun to stress psychological rather than material disadvantage as the root cause of group differences in cognitive performance: for example, racism-depressed motivation, racial stress, race-based performance anxiety ("stereotype threat"), and low self-esteem. All are generally posited to result in some manner from White racism. However, there is no evidence that any of them causes either short- or long-term declines in actual cognitive ability, either within or between races; not all of them (e.g., self-esteem) are lower for Blacks; and none can begin to explain the large array of relevant non-psychological facts, including why the races also differ in brain size and speed (in milliseconds) of performing exceedingly simple cognitive tasks such as recognizing which of several buttons on a console has been illuminated (a reaction time task). Because the American Black-White IQ gap has not narrowed in the century since it was first measured, the psychic injury must also be just as deleterious now as it was during that earlier, more hostile era for Blacks, which seems implausible. Thus, while the proposed psychic insults may temporarily patch over some rips in the culture-only theory, they would seem to hold even less promise than the failed socioeconomic ones for explaining the longstanding, worldwide pattern of racial IQ differences and their links to the biological correlates of g.

    Gottfredson, L. S. (2005). What if the hereditarian hypothesis is true? Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, 11, 311-319.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:31 No.18532562
    >>18532246
    the same shit has been said about standardized tests from the beginning.

    they assume that because black people are poor, theyve never been on a plane, so they couldnt relate to the general layout of a plane and thus a question about some chick in an aisle serving people at some rate, how long would it take to get to a person in row x.

    thats fucking stupid. black people are broke and therefore have never been on a plane... so this makes them dumb as bricks? im white and never been on a plane, i understand what the fuck a "row" is.

    furthermore, on any standardized test ive taken, ive never been asked what a regatta or a slalom is. we had SAT vocabulary shit in high school, and even that shit was painfully simple.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:31 No.18532563
    >>18532499
    Good work ethic, sir.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:31 No.18532565
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    Actually, that's what I'm saying, but you keep getting hung up on the whole "race" thing.

    Fact remains that there is a greater percentage of blacks in poverty than out. Opposite for whites.

    So AA takes a weird (and some would say "racist") approach to reaching the same objective.

    It's not perfect, but it works.

    >mfw I'm a Mexican-American and got into my University with a 3.78 in a science major and the average acceptance rate was lower than mine

    I got in because of good grades but would have happily taken a white kid's spot if that's what it took.

    IT'S A DOGGY DOG WORLD OUT THERE FOLKS.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:31 No.18532566
    >>18532475

    All races bar Asians should be exterminated.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:31 No.18532572
    >>18532509
    yeah, that gives it away pretty soon.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:32 No.18532578
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    How do you explain the fact that Black students from families with incomes of $80,000 to $100,000 score considerably lower on the SAT than White students from families with $20,000 to $30,000 incomes? How do you explain why social class factors, all taken together, only cut the Black-White achievement gap by a third? Culture-only theory cannot predict these facts; often its predictions are opposite to the empirical results.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:32 No.18532579
    >>18532458
    >implying family is the only source of cultural influence
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:32 No.18532583
    >>18532483
    >Live in orange county
    >Most of the black people are nice. Why are people so raci-
    >Visit compton once
    >Pee pants
    What the hell, man.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:32 No.18532593
    source on that graph
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:33 No.18532595
    >>18532531

    Addendum:

    http://www.nytimes.com/1983/05/31/science/study-ties-iq-scores-to-stress.html

    Bernard Brown and Lilian Rosenbaum of Georgetown University created a stress index using a sample of 4,000 7-year-old children.

    "''What we found was that the stress index showed the I.Q. of the children decreased 13 percent from low stress to high stress,'' Mr. Brown said Sunday in an interview after addressing the American Association for the Advancement of Science annual meeting. The I.Q. scores dropped from 104 with no stress to 91 with high stress, he said."
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:33 No.18532597
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    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:33 No.18532598
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    >people thinking test bias is real issue in IQ tests when they're equally predictive within all races
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:33 No.18532606
    >>18532566
    >>18532566
    as an asian, ashkenazi jews (eh, fuck it, all jews) can stay
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:34 No.18532616
    >>18532578
    >16 year old data
    come now.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:34 No.18532619
    >>18532578

    so obama's children will grow up to be dumber than some hick in alabama? ahahha right, wheres the source on that graph
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:34 No.18532620
    >>18532597
    >sup /b/
    >4 01 2010
    >2ch
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:34 No.18532625
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    >>18532595
    “Numerous laboratory experiments have been conducted to show that African Americans’ cognitive test performance suffers under stereotype threat, i.e., the fear of confirming negative stereotypes concerning one’s group. A meta-analysis of 55 published and unpublished studies of this effect shows clear signs of publication bias.”

    [Stereotype threat and the cognitive test performance of African Americans, by Jelte M. Wicherts & Cor de Haan, University of Amsterdam]

    http://www.isironline.org/meeting/pdfs/program2009.pdf

    “The effect varies widely across studies, and is generally small. Although elite university undergraduates may underperform on cognitive tests due to stereotype threat, this effect does not generalize to non-adapted standardized tests, high-stakes settings, and less academically gifted test-takers.”
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:34 No.18532626
    >>18532597

    everything is counterfeited
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:35 No.18532629
    >>18532578

    >Black students from families with incomes of $80,000 to $100,000

    Your chart only goes to $70k.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:35 No.18532633
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    >>18532606
    >jews can stay
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:35 No.18532634
    >>18532597
    >Billionair
    Any upper middle class person can go to the bank and withdraw money.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:35 No.18532639
    >>18532595
    >May 31, 1983

    oh nigga please
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:36 No.18532650
    >>18532633
    like em or not, they're damn smart.
    okay, maybe not most of the women but...
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:36 No.18532655
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    >>18532619
    No, they already were dumber since the day they were born.

    Why do you think Obama hasn't released his college transcripts?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:37 No.18532666
    >>18532625

    Are you illiterate or just stupid?

    I am not talking about "stereotype threat"; I'm talking about good, ol' fashioned, run of the mill, emotional stress.

    What is so exceedingly fucking difficult for you to understand about that?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:37 No.18532675
    >>18532619

    Oh liberal, you so silly. There is one halfbreed president, one drop in the ocean - and you begin to make assumptions on whole ethnicitys, based on that?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:38 No.18532678
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    >>18532547
    unless we give an opportunity to those that want to better themselves to get out from the ghetto
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:38 No.18532679
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    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:38 No.18532680
    Well, I think it's settled. Based on their inferior IQ test results, Blacks and Whites must be sacrificed to make way for the Asian master race.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:38 No.18532681
    white master race here, we still have a larger number of geniuses, and are always paving the road to greater advancement of the human race. also, second place average, with all of the fucking rednecks and inbreeding going feels fucking good.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:38 No.18532684
    >>18532639

    >Implying that our brains cope with stress differently today than they did 27 years ago.

    Sure is "I am the biggest motherfucking moron on 4chan" in here.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:38 No.18532690
    >>18532461
    Makes sense. As much as people would like to claim everyone is "human" therefore we should have the same opportunities. I call bullshit. White look different, think differently, and react differently to the same situation.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:39 No.18532699
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    >>18532616
    >>18532639
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:39 No.18532702
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    >>18532666
    Because differences in material resources across a broad range of family circumstances seem to have no demonstrable effect on IQ by late adolescence, culture-only theories have now begun to stress psychological rather than material disadvantage as the root cause of group differences in cognitive performance: for example, racism-depressed motivation, racial stress, race-based performance anxiety ("stereotype threat"), and low self-esteem. All are generally posited to result in some manner from White racism. However, there is no evidence that any of them causes either short- or long-term declines in actual cognitive ability, either within or between races; not all of them (e.g., self-esteem) are lower for Blacks; and none can begin to explain the large array of relevant non-psychological facts, including why the races also differ in brain size and speed (in milliseconds) of performing exceedingly simple cognitive tasks such as recognizing which of several buttons on a console has been illuminated (a reaction time task). Because the American Black-White IQ gap has not narrowed in the century since it was first measured, the psychic injury must also be just as deleterious now as it was during that earlier, more hostile era for Blacks, which seems implausible. Thus, while the proposed psychic insults may temporarily patch over some rips in the culture-only theory, they would seem to hold even less promise than the failed socioeconomic ones for explaining the longstanding, worldwide pattern of racial IQ differences and their links to the biological correlates of g.

    Gottfredson, L. S. (2005). What if the hereditarian hypothesis is true? Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, 11, 311-319.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:39 No.18532704
    >>18532680
    and hispanics, and we will let some whites live if they accept asian master race
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:39 No.18532705
    >>18532452
    >The culture-only (0% genetic-100% environmental) and the hereditarian (50% genetic-50% environmental) models of the causes of mean Black-White differences in cognitive ability are compared and contrasted across 10 categories of evidence: the worldwide distribution of test scores, g factor of mental ability, heritability, brain size and cognitive ability, transracial adoption, racial admixture, regression, related life-history traits, human origins research, and hypothesized environmental variables. The new evidence reviewed here points to some genetic component in Black-White differences in mean IQ. The implication for public policy is that the discrimination model (i.e., Black-White differences in socially valued outcomes will be equal barring discrimination) must be tempered by a distributional model (i.e., Black-White outcomes reflect underlying group characteristics).

    Read this.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:39 No.18532707
    >>18532578
    they're nouveau riche and the kids are spoiled and lazy. for most of these familes, the parents are possibly first or second (possibly even third) generation american. their parents and parents parents were poor immigrants and worked their asses off to save money so someone later on could have a shot at going to school and getting a better future. these ppl are the ones who succeeded. they then have children and for some reason did not instill in them the values of their forebears. then these kids become spoiled and lazy.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:40 No.18532719
    >be biracial, mexican and white
    >apply for scholarships, see one that says it's for latino students
    >apply
    >get denied for being "too white"
    >mfw
    >I have no face
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:40 No.18532721
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    >>18532680
    >>18532704
    Well the world would be quite shitty without whites.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:40 No.18532722
    >>18532680

    As a white guy, I'm OK with this. I look forward to the new era of technological advancement that would be ushered in with a world ruled by Asians.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:40 No.18532723
    Protip: by examining a bone or two, you can subclass a human into one of three groups:
    negroid
    mongoloid
    caucasoid

    It's not all one race, they just say that to keep people from going total ape shit.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:40 No.18532724
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    herod

    /thread
    >> Moarfeene !TORPeDoINg 07/02/11(Sat)16:40 No.18532726
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    >be part Native American
    >mfw
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:41 No.18532745
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    You see this guy right here?
    He's building a time machine
    What have you done with your life?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:41 No.18532750
    >>18532721
    >say we will leave the good whites alive
    >tells me shit would suck without them

    i knooooow
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:42 No.18532756
    >>18532365
    That doesn't even scratch the surface. I fucking hate righteous blacks who think they're the only group to be discriminated against in the last few hundred years.

    Asians had it much worse off than what is commonly believed. WWII Japanese-American internment camps did not unjustly imprison Japanese: it imprisoned ALL asians. They didn't even bother to ask if that person was Japanese. THere were plenty of Koreans and Chinese in there too.

    Don't forget about blacks complaining about building railroads: while they built them on nice flat land in middle america, asians had to dig through the fucking serrian nevadan mountains. Countless asians were burried alive or simply dropped dead from starvation/exhaustion or overexposure.

    Back during those times when blacks were picking cotton, asians were working within the strict confines of white law and actually prospering; so the local governments passed laws like:
    1) No asian could own a business
    2) No asian could marry
    For no reason other than that, while already discriminated against, asians were still smart and hardworking enough to be above the poverty line.

    The big problem is that blacks and asians over the past 200 years have had different responses to racism:
    1) When blacks feel discriminated against, they whine and bitch until they get freebies.
    2) When asians feel discriminated against, they work harder, within the system, to prove themselves and reform the system.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:42 No.18532760
    >>18532699

    OH SHIT. Bill Gates browses /g/?!

    MOtherfuck. Sup Bill?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:42 No.18532762
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    Geronimo

    /thread
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:42 No.18532764
    >>18532745
    >lolsteampunktimemachine.jpg

    I write control software for missiles for Lockheed-Martin.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:43 No.18532774
    >>18532750
    Why don't you just kill all the shit humans without considering race?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:43 No.18532781
    >>18532629
    70k
    plus

    For example, 90k is higher than 70k. Therefore it must be included in the area 70k+.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:43 No.18532784
    >>18532774
    too hard, how would we tell?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:44 No.18532795
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    >>18532784
    IQ testing.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:45 No.18532798
    >>18532784
    IQ-tests?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:45 No.18532800
    >>18532784
    by whether they are black or not
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:45 No.18532802
    >>18532650

    I get what you're saying. My proposal is to keep and tax 'em.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:45 No.18532806
    >>18532721

    Times have changed and the paradigm of industrialisation and industrialised countries is shifting. Whites are surplus to requirements in this day and age and, because of their inferior IQ, should--along with all races--be cleansed from the gene pool in favour of the more intelligent Asians.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:45 No.18532807
    >>18532756

    Yup. Pretty much every group has been enslaved or fucked over at some point in history.

    http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-irish-slave-trade-
    forgotten-white-slaves/
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:45 No.18532809
    >>18532784

    Surprise SAT scores.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:45 No.18532812
    >>18532784
    ask them run of the mill questions, if they dont pass, shoot them in the face immediately.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:47 No.18532833
    >>18532798
    >>18532795
    Everybody below 90 (US-norm) must die? I think sterilization would be more humane.

    That would be most of the human population.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:47 No.18532835
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    lets keep in mind there are asian niggers too. every race has their trash.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:48 No.18532852
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    >>18532745
    Also Neil Degrass Tyson
    He's an astrophysicist and the head of the Hayden planetarium
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:48 No.18532858
    sterilization...why couldn't it have been successful. WHY
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:48 No.18532863
    >>18532781

    You cannot draw accurate conclusions about the IQs of the 80k-100k group when they are lumped in with the 70ks.

    That was the over-riding point, one you seem to have willingly dodged.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:48 No.18532867
    >>18532835
    Thankfully with asians they've put themselves into nice groups to spot the trash, it seems to mainly pacific islanders and the chinese.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:50 No.18532900
    >>18532806
    But we can measure intelligence on an individual level and many whites are above the asian average (close to 40% actually)...
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:50 No.18532905
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    Iq testing
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:50 No.18532917
    >>18532809
    Because everybody in the world takes SAT...
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:50 No.18532922
    >>18532330
    >blacks with high iq parents are more often born with low IQs, proving low IQs in blacks is hereditary.
    That does the opposite. That would be a case against it being hereditary since his family had high IQ and he didn't.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:51 No.18532927
    Fuck black people and beaners. If America was just Asians and whites, we'd be perfect.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:52 No.18532939
    I am happy with this thread. I am happy to be white. I accept my Asian and Jewish brethren, together we will prosper.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:52 No.18532941
    >>18532852
    I don't like NDT, he hasn't ever made a theory or scientific contribution of his own, he seems to just ride the coat tails of others and play himself off to be smart.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:52 No.18532949
    >>18532702

    >However, there is no evidence that any of them causes either short- or long-term declines in actual cognitive ability

    Yes, there fucking is. I just posted in a post that YOU FUCKING REPLIED TO!

    >>18532595

    http://www.nytimes.com/1983/05/31/science/study-ties-iq-scores-to-stress.html

    >the stress index showed the I.Q. of the children decreased 13 percent from low stress to high
    >The I.Q. scores dropped from 104 with no stress to 91 with high stress, he said."
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:54 No.18532977
    >>18532927
    >>18532939

    >implying inferior Whites should be spared

    lolno. Out with your fellow inferior IQ brethren you go.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:54 No.18532979
    >>18532917

    Operative word: Surprise.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:55 No.18532994
    >>18532900
    You just proved whites are inferior. If 40% of whites have higher IQ than the average asian, that means 60% are lower.

    IE. if whites and asians were exactly equal in average IQ, 50% of whites would be above the asian average, while 50% would be below.

    TL:DR; you're inferior, lololololol umad?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:55 No.18532995
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    >>18532949
    >However, there is no evidence that any of them causes either short- or long-term declines in actual cognitive ability
    >in actual cognitive ability
    >in actual cognitive ability
    >in actual cognitive ability

    Try again.

    You're also a pretty giant leap away from any evidence that this is the cause of the racial IQ gap. (PROTIP: It isn't).
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:55 No.18532999
    >>18532977
    >implying
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:55 No.18533010
    >>18532977
    lolyes. We need no protection from the government to have many of us withstand the asian force.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:55 No.18533011
    >>18532949

    Addendum:

    Even MORE evidence that high stress can lower your IQ.

    http://nctsnet.org/nctsn_assets/Articles/122.pdf
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:55 No.18533018
    >>18532678
    but that's the thing, very few of them want to better themselves. oh sure lots of them want someone to come along and just hand them a better life but they have no interest in working for that better life, and put five of them together and they'll creat a mini gehtto.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:56 No.18533021
    >>18532764
    The steam punk time machine is there to illustrate a point
    What he's actually doing is using high powered lasers to warp space time and send neutrons back in time
    Its only been 40 years since black people have had equal rights. Its no surprise that they would still be convinced that the only way to be successful is to take the route of their grandparents and be good at sports or be criminals. But times are changing.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:57 No.18533036
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    >>18532939
    >Jewish brethren
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:57 No.18533048
    >>18532922
    >doesn't know about regression to the mean

    In quantitative genetics there is a nice formula for this:

    http://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~mcclean/plsc431/quantgen/qgen6.htm

    You are doing this with IQ so h^2 is ~0.75. The black mean is 85.

    see >>18532452 for a more detailed discussion of this line of evidence.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:58 No.18533062
    >>18533036
    woah dude, jews are my bros. they kick ass at chess and arent afraid of anything, so lay off, aight?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:58 No.18533067
    >>18533011

    Addendum:

    Even MORE evidence STILL!

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDsQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kr
    epublishers.com%2F02-Journals%2FT-Anth%2FAnth-08-0-000-000-2006-Web%2FAnth-08-1-001-074-2006-Abst-PD
    F%2FAnth-08-1-061-062-2006-326-Malik-P-R%2FAnth-08-1-061-062-2006-326-Malik-P-R-Text.pdf&ei=goUP
    TvecJuSIsgLWw4yPCg&usg=AFQjCNEJbXr6Soh_CnQsaLrBBZ6mzESeRg
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:58 No.18533073
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    >>18533062
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:59 No.18533080
    >>18532994
    And 50% of asians are below the asian average. ~40% of asians are below the white average.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)16:59 No.18533081
    >>18532995

    See:
    >>18533067
    >>18533011
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:00 No.18533103
    >>18533062
    the nazis?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:00 No.18533107
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    lol jews...
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:01 No.18533119
    >>18533107

    Bobby Fischer is Jewish, you dumbshit.

    Granted, he's a self-loathing Jew, but a Jew nonetheless.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:02 No.18533130
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    >>18532595
    >>18532949
    This is a pretty nonsensical, pseudo-scientific article. Did you actually read it?

    >The researchers did not test children before and after they were under stress but compared children who were under stress to those who were not.

    So basically there is no evidence to support the assertions made by the researchers.

    The things they claim are "stress factors" is pretty laughable too.

    >The level of I.Q. scores decreased for children who were held back a grade or assigned to special education

    So, according to the "researchers" (political hacks), being held back or put in special education caused "stress", which then resulted in their lower IQ.

    A more rational person would conclude that they were held back or put into special education because they had a lower IQ in the first place.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:02 No.18533143
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    >>18533073
    >jews are my bros
    Zionist detected, pick up that can.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:04 No.18533190
    >>18533130

    >being held back or put in special education caused "stress"

    No such causality was explicitly stated, nor implied.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:05 No.18533205
    lots of jew jealousy in this thread...you guys mad cause they are even smarter then the south koreans?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:05 No.18533223
    >>18533119
    someone doesn't get the joke
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:06 No.18533238
    >>18532994
    My IQ is 116 so I'm doing better than most persons of any racial group. I have no reason to be mad.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:07 No.18533274
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    lol jews...
    jews
    jeews

    anti-semite

    google the meaning of semite

    semite is racist

    being anti-semite is racist against racist semites.

    >> my world
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:09 No.18533303
    >>18533080
    Which would imply that 60% of asians are above the white average, meaning asians have a higher average.
    >>18533238
    Yet you're still wrong.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:10 No.18533308
    >>18533303
    asians have a higher population density than whites.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:12 No.18533354
    generally, people who frequent internet (excluding some obvious sites) tend to be more intelligent then people who dont. intelligence and knowledge are limited to the resources you have for learning, ad the internet opens a huge door and provides access to an unlimited amount of information, and if you know how to look, then it tends to be more uncensored then other sources of info. i doubt anybody on this website (its summer, so not as much) is actually average or below average, and we are speaking in general terms.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:12 No.18533365
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    Hi guys; I invented the revolver.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:13 No.18533368
    >>18533130

    You know what? I can't even believe I'm trying to argue statistics with you fa/g//g/ots when I could take a much more "Gallileo" approach (as in, "Take a look through the telescope for yourself, dumbfuck).

    Everyone in this thread knows good and god-damned well that it is more difficult to think and concentrate when under significant emotional stress.

    Inb4: "Not me, I am better under stress."

    You are not! What you are is a god-damned liar.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:13 No.18533372
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    >>18533190
    Yes, it was explicitly stated that they were operating under the unsupported assumption that being held back or put into special education causes "stress". You didn't read the article, did you?

    >The stress factors included poor vision; hearing, muscle tone or reflex problems; behavioral trouble such as crying, nail-biting and hyperactivity; and whether the child was assigned to a special education class.

    So they arbitrarily call these "stress factors" and find that children in special education have lower IQs. They then come to the spurious conclusion that being put in special education caused "stress", and somehow this "stress" caused their lower IQ.

    But as I have already pointed out this conclusion is bizarre and doesn't respect basic principles of logic. It is more sensible to conclude they were put into special education because they had a lower IQ to begin with.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:14 No.18533394
    I think drugs; including prescription drugs should be banned from academic testing.

    Watch how quickly the adderall cheaters fall behind.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:14 No.18533401
    >>18533303
    About what? My approach would be race neutral IQ based eugenics. If I've got you right you would favor some race based stuff when this would be a much worse approach than mine.

    When I wrote that post I was perfectly aware of the fact that whites have a lower average IQ than east asians. I didn't claim anything to the contrary.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:16 No.18533435
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    >>18533401

    >My approach would be race neutral IQ based eugenics

    Fuck you and your approach, you goose-stepping Fascist.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:16 No.18533444
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    >>18533368
    And if you bash someone in the head with a baseball bat it can cause brain damage and thus lower IQ.

    But would studies showing brain damage causes lower IQ then support a conclusion that all Blacks in America have been hit in the head with baseball bats?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:17 No.18533448
    >>18531323

    I'm sick and tired of you fuckers.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:18 No.18533470
    >>18532509

    Many of us browse 4chan...
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:19 No.18533487
    >>18533444

    Again, the fact the most African Americans live in high-crime ghettos makes it self-evident that they are typically under significantly more emotional stress than caucasians, who primarily live in low crime sub-urban and rural communities.

    Christ on a stick, do I have to teach you fucking arithmetic too?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:19 No.18533492
    >>18533444
    Huh, and I thought "Latinos" were considered white.
    >> GNU !!c52XrHZuduE 07/02/11(Sat)17:20 No.18533493
    >>>/b/
    This isn't /stormfront/.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:20 No.18533505
    relevant:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmSzgvaJCn0&feature=player_embedded
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:21 No.18533525
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    >>18532595
    >>18532949
    >The researchers did not test children before and after they were under stress but compared children who were under stress to those who were not.

    So then how do they know the children in special education classes did not have a lower IQ to begin with? Perhaps being put in special education even raised their IQ.

    This "study" seems to be operating under the (baseless) assumption that everyone is born with equivalent IQ.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:22 No.18533556
    >>18533525

    See:
    >>18533368
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:22 No.18533559
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    after the chinese poison us; they evolve into time travelers called the grays.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:23 No.18533580
    >>18533556
    Oh, so you preemptively ducked out of the thread to avoid defending your transparent lies. Cool.

    That doesn't prevent the rest of us from discussing how retarded that "study" is though.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:24 No.18533598
    >>18533435
    What's your problem with eugenics?

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v414/n6864/full/414583a.html
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:25 No.18533619
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    >>18533487
    How do you explain the fact that Black students from families with incomes of $80,000 to $100,000 score considerably lower on the SAT than White students from families with $20,000 to $30,000 incomes? How do you explain why social class factors, all taken together, only cut the Black-White achievement gap by a third? Culture-only theory cannot predict these facts; often its predictions are opposite to the empirical results.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:25 No.18533629
    >>18533580

    >so you preemptively ducked out of the thread

    No, I'm still here, waiting for you to catch up.

    Its really fucking simple.

    >High stress = lower IQ scores
    >Inner City Ghetto = Incredibly high stress environment

    Fucking deductive logic, how does it work?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:25 No.18533630
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    >>18533487
    How does this apply to the children of rich blacks or black children adopted into white middle class families?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:28 No.18533685
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    >>18533487
    >>18533629
    Because differences in material resources across a broad range of family circumstances seem to have no demonstrable effect on IQ by late adolescence, culture-only theories have now begun to stress psychological rather than material disadvantage as the root cause of group differences in cognitive performance: for example, racism-depressed motivation, racial stress, race-based performance anxiety ("stereotype threat"), and low self-esteem. All are generally posited to result in some manner from White racism. However, there is no evidence that any of them causes either short- or long-term declines in actual cognitive ability, either within or between races; not all of them (e.g., self-esteem) are lower for Blacks; and none can begin to explain the large array of relevant non-psychological facts, including why the races also differ in brain size and speed (in milliseconds) of performing exceedingly simple cognitive tasks such as recognizing which of several buttons on a console has been illuminated (a reaction time task). Because the American Black-White IQ gap has not narrowed in the century since it was first measured, the psychic injury must also be just as deleterious now as it was during that earlier, more hostile era for Blacks, which seems implausible. Thus, while the proposed psychic insults may temporarily patch over some rips in the culture-only theory, they would seem to hold even less promise than the failed socioeconomic ones for explaining the longstanding, worldwide pattern of racial IQ differences and their links to the biological correlates of g.

    Gottfredson, L. S. (2005). What if the hereditarian hypothesis is true? Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, 11, 311-319.

    http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/2005hereditarian-hypothesis.pdf
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:29 No.18533696
    The government needs to give each man a sterile super model clone; that does our bidding; then the government should eliminate the inferior women; and of course the niggers.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:29 No.18533697
    >>18533619

    First, that chart possesses no data specific to people making $80-100.

    Second...

    >Implying that people who make $80-100 don't get stressed out.

    Third, a white person making $20-30k, in all likelyhood, lives in a rural area. A black person making $80-100K still probably lives in a shitty, inner city neighborhood.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:30 No.18533710
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    General cognitive ability (intelligence, often indexed by IQ scores) is one of the most highly heritable behavioral dimensions. In an attempt to identify some of the many genes (quantitative trait loci; QTL) responsible for the substantial heritability of this quantitative trait, the IQ QTL Project uses an allelic association strategy. Allelic frequencies are compared for the high and low extremes of the IQ dimension using DNA markers in or near genes that are likely to be relevant to neural functioning. Permanent cell lines have been established for low-IQ (mean IQ = 82; N = 18), middle-IQ (mean IQ = 105; N = 21), and high-IQ (mean IQ = 130; N = 24) groups and for a replication sample consisting of even more extreme low-IQ (mean IQ = 59; N = 17) and high-IQ (mean IQ = 142; N = 27) groups. Subjects are Caucasian children tested from 6 to 12 years of age. This first report of the IQ QTL Project presents allelic association results for 46 two-allele markers and for 26 comparisons for 14 multiple-allele markers. Two markers yielded significant (p < .01) allelic frequency differences between the high- and the low-IQ groups in the combined sample-a new HLA marker for a gene unique to the human species and a new brain-expressed triplet repeat marker (CTGB33). The prospects for harnessing the power of molecular genetic techniques to identify QTL for quantitative dimensions of human behavior are discussed.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:31 No.18533719
    >>18533685

    >Reposting crap that has already been rebutted

    I accept your concession of defeat.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:31 No.18533722
    Look at Africa

    this is a clear result of the niggers capacity to do anything besides act like the animals they are. Why do you think niggers are all in prison?

    WHITE MAN KEEPING THEM DOWN?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:33 No.18533748
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    /thread
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:33 No.18533756
    >>18533722

    >Look at Africa

    The only thing Africa proves is that British Colonialism fucks things up.

    Case in point:
    India/Pakistan/Kashmir
    Israel/Palestine
    Canada
    Australia
    America
    etc
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:33 No.18533772
    >>18533719
    Most of your "points" have already been addressed in the most detailed analysis of the evidence regarding racial IQ differences to date.

    http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/pppl1.pdf
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:34 No.18533774
    >>18533719
    That excerpt was never rebutted. The only reply to it took one single sentence out of it and, embarrassingly, misinterpreted that single sentence.

    Most of it you are still desperately trying to ignore, because it so thoroughly obliterates your "arguments" (I'm being generous).
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:34 No.18533776
    >>18533756
    explain why they never evolved in ancient times?
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:37 No.18533835
    The reason Affirmative Action exists in schools is because they want to support the minorities who have an INTEREST in education. More minorities kept in high-ranking unis means less nigger crimes, drug DEALING (consuming is another thing), less niggers in ghettos, etc.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:37 No.18533838
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    >>18533719
    >already been rebutted
    Where is this phantom rebuttal? You haven't even tried to address it. For example this part:

    >none can begin to explain the large array of relevant non-psychological facts, including why the races also differ in brain size and speed (in milliseconds) of performing exceedingly simple cognitive tasks such as recognizing which of several buttons on a console has been illuminated (a reaction time task).

    Your reasons for avoiding a direct reply to this are obvious. It proves you unequivocally wrong without any room for argument.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:37 No.18533840
    someone please explain to me why was;still is; will always be; a shithole.

    the only countries of africa that did anything innovative without the help of whites was perhaps egypt.

    Some believe the egyptians has the help of extraterrestrials; so that even fucks that theory up.

    in b4 niggers r smart they just under alot of stress.

    how the fuck are niggers under stress; all they do is smoke weed.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:39 No.18533886
    >>18533840
    I've yet to meet a black person who has not shown aggression; intimidation tactics in debate.

    Blacks are incapable of higher brain function; only blacks who's dominant genes are from white relatives ever achieve anything substantial.

    Prove me wrong.
    >> !TrIpCoDekE 07/02/11(Sat)17:40 No.18533899
    >>18533776

    Climate
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:41 No.18533911
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    >>18533886
    You're not wrong.
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:45 No.18533923
    >>18533840
    >>Some believe the egyptians has the help of extraterrestrials; so that even fucks that theory up.


    >believes unsubstantiated theory about Alien intervention

    Dude, are you retarded?

    Anyway, take a look at how productive and progressive Europe was during the Dark Ages. You know what got them out of them? Exploration of the New World.

    And what did the NW give them? Resources and land.

    Guess what Egypt and Europe had during their most progressive years. Guess what Africa lacks.

    Granted, this is an oversimplification, but it's not worse than your "hurr ET helpa to buildz teh pirameds."
    >> Anonymous 07/02/11(Sat)17:45 No.18533924
    Here is evidence that whites are superior to all races.

    Who has held onto power throughout the world for the past 3,000 years?

    People blame the british for everything; when it was our genius that gave us the ability to control you all; then; and now.

    The asians are not in control either; everything the asians have we gave them. Here come the red coats.



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