>implying I care

I have no front door. Wheres your god now?

>>18326997
>Lithuania
>A police raid team

HahaHa, no.

Never browsed /b/, the only porn on here that people would find is furry but I've got that encrypted

Turn off my computer, LUKS saves me.

FBI spend years trying to decrypt, fail.

A. My door cannot be smashed in. Its a security door with steel bars inside. The only way to force open it wolud be some kind of explosion.
B. see picture.
C. No one gives a shit in my country

I keep the most rotten stuff in my brain.

> they seize your computer with the intent of examining your computer for illegally downloaded music, films

Haha, what? Cops have better things to do here.

> will check your browser cache for CP, which if you have browsed on /b/ in the past few weeks

Why would I have browsed /b/?

> How well protected are you from being outed as a thief and a pedo in the press?

Press says whatever they want to say. The principal problem is, however, that if the cops steal my computer and all my backups, I can't work anymore.

>Sandbag Bunker set up at the door with me and 5 of my bro`s All armed with ACR`s,Claymores everywhere
THOU SHALT NOT PASSSSSS

I have truecrypt on every HD I own with plausible deniability and a 30+ char password with AES256 on system drives and TWOFISH-AES256 on others.

Come at me bro.

>implying american jews can get to me in canada
>implying music and movies are worth more than a single stolen solid works license

>>18327026

Is LUKS better than Truecrypt?

Well the only things they could get me on is thumbnails of CP as I scrolled past them.
But I clear my browser cache regularly.

>>18327053

In some countries having encryption is illegal. It will be that way in the USA soon enough.

if my computer is off:

nothing to fear, shakespear

HAVE NO CP CUS I'M NOT A FAGGOT

FIBS DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE 12TB OF BLURAY ENCODES ON MY HTPC, JUST SAY THEY WERE PERSONAL USE COPIES I MADE FROM A FRIENDS DISCS

THEN BILL THEM FOR MY DOOR

>>18327034
Twofish on your system drives? Really?! That'd be slow as shit. You could've at least used AES

just curious, has it ever come to the point of breaking down the door without first at least getting one letter?

I use Firefox and have my browser cache at 0mb.
Why don't you?

>>18327076
>implying thumbnails aren't enough
>implying they can't use file recovery on that directory

>illegally downloaded music

How would they know?

>browser cache for CP

I set my browser to disable cache.

>Apple comes pre-encrypted.
>OP still a faggot

Are winboys even trying?

>they get all my cp and torrented goods
>take me to court for it
>they didnt have a warrant for such activity
>all evidence gets thrown out
>mfw

>>18327111
>"apple" comes pre-encrypted
So, whatever "apple" is, assuming it's an apple product, is encrypted from the factory. That means that apple has full access the keys because they did it for you

Holy shit, applefags, are you even trying?

>mfw full disk encryption

>>18327171
>yfw prison for not disclosing key

>>18327102
Too much to go through to trudge up some charge.
They might try since I'm in canuckistan but any half-wit lawyer could convince them to "play hide and go fuck themselves".

what do you think of bitlocker for disk encryption ?

>>18327205
Microsoft gave a toolkit to law enforcement to get around Bitlocker.

>>18327205
Just use TrueCrypt or PGP and be done with it.

>mfw I live in Southeastern Europe
>police raids
I hope they know how to use a PC for anything else then downloading porn.

>for illegally downloaded music, films
lol america
>and will check your browser cache for CP
lrn2 private browsing for pages like /b/

>>18327247
Which is better? How much do they affect HDD speed?

>>18327184
>mfw I don't live in Britain

>>18327276
Encryption is illegal in Britain.

>Implying I give a fuck

>>18327244
Wait! fuck.. really? i have all my fuckin hdds encrypted with bitlocker

>>18328136
>trusting Microsoft to protect you from law enforcement

>>18328136
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/145318/microsoft_helps_law_enforcement_get_around_encr
yption.html

>>18328136
>Trusting MS Bitlocker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Online_Forensic_Evidence_Extractor

Here in Ausfalia we just microwave our HDD's.

>>18328136
> bitlocker
Say hello to Big Bobba.

>>18328171
>>18328198
>>18328206
fuck this what do i do now guys, i dont want the police to see my cp uguu~~

>>18328262
Swipe a magnet over your hard drive...7 times...

The police doesn't give two flying fucks about downloads in my country.
Shit, I remember downloading like 400GB+ illegal shit the same time, and my ISP didn't even bother stopping me.
Since I have no CP, I';m safe.

If you want to use encryption to prevent police from gathering data from your hard drive:

Get Truecrypt.
Install Truecrypt, encrypting your whole hard drive so that it will not boot without a password. Even with Linux security tools, you cannot access the files on the drive without the password without exponential amounts of time (on the order of quadrillions of years).

Memorize a few sentences to use as your password. Make it an original sentence, not a quote. Do not forget this password, as it will brick your drive.

Hook your computer up so that all components are connected to a single power strip.

If you suspect that law enforcement is approaching your home, flip the power switch on the strip off immediately.

If you want to be very protected, don't leave your computer powered on and leave the room. You may not have enough time to power it off if you are in the bathroom.

Use a screensaver that forces the entry of a password to resume, if you are less worried.

For extra security:
NEVER hibernate your computer.
This dumps the RAM into memory on your computer, which, with forensic analysis, can be recovered, forfeiting your password if the drive is found decrypted at any point (say, you left it on while you were in the kitchen and the feds came in through the front door.)

Do not reveal your password to anyone, especially through electronic communication protocol, which could be monitored by LEOs, feds, CIA, NSA, or DHS. They could also be using someone close to you to get you to reveal the password through trust.

That's about it /g/, happy CP.
Just kidding.

If they don't have a search warrant for anything and come busting my door down, They'd be in deep shit not me.

Plus not a single fuck was / is given because I don't browse /b/ and anything I download is stored on another computer in my basement.

And there are 6 other PCs in this house all connected to it.

>Implying this would EVER actually happen.

>>18328311
Also, make sure your case is very hard to open.

Government agents can cool your RAM with liquid nitrogen to put its volatility in stasis, which can then be quickly ported to an agents computer to compromise your encryption if you had typed in your password after boot. This can also reveal other information about files or the browsing that you do. When cooled with liquid nitrogen, RAM can hold this data for longer than 10 minutes rather than the few seconds that it does when it is hot.

>>18328311
>>18328345

I don't even..

>>18328345
With an angle grinder they'll get it open anyway. Any case.

>>18328403
You can get safes that you put your pc in and the cables come out of a single hole in the back.

Banks use them.

>live in Lithuania
>implying the police care about such things
>even if they do, ask them to get an arrest order
>wipe drive with magnets in the mean time

>>18328415
>implying wiping your harddrives outer casing with a magnet will wipe the data from the disk

>>18328403
This is true, however, the police force will most likely not have an angle grinder within 30 seconds of entry, in which time a computer will have dumped all RAM memory and compromised the raid.

You only need to prevent the police from getting access to your RAM directly from the time you flip the switch to about 15 seconds later.

>>18328345

you gotta be fucking joking me

>>18328427

>implying Lithuanians are smart enough todo something the remaining data.

>>18328438
If you mean it's shocking to learn this, it's completely true.

Really, most federal computer raids will come with a computer forensics scientist who will try to counter all of your defenses as soon as he can, in the worst case scenario, however, they are easily defeated by a strong password, security techniques, and a readiness to flip off the power switch.

>>18327639
No it's not. However you legally have to hand over encryption keys to the police if they ask, breaching the fundamental human right of right to silence. Otherwise you can get 2 years in prison.

Law enacted SUPPOSEDLY for terrorism. Y'know, because a terrorist would HATE a 2 year jailterm over a lifetime term. I think the first person prosecuted for it was some 19 year old white guy anyway with no mention of alleged terrorism.

Supposedly losing or forgetting the keys isn't even a defence, although hopefully a judge would be convinced to enact common sense on that one.

One of the few things I legitimately hate about this country. I'm no patriot but I'm hardly bothered by anything else.

>>18328438
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_boot_attack

I don't live in a police nanny state so I don't have to worry about bullshit like this.

>>18328467

it is shocking...fucking science man..

I've got nothing to hide, but everything, apart from my boot partition, is encrypted with aes256 and a 30+ character pass-phrase.

I also live in a country where I cannot be forced to reveal encryption keys.

Good luck, mr. police man.

>>18328485
I read this article and it brought be to another security technique: preventing certain devices from being used as a boot medium by disabling them from booting in the BIOS and then using a strong BIOS password; coupled with a secure casing, this would ensure even further that the police have no time to pull your memory: the BIOS jumpers and resetting the CMOS would make it take even longer.

I should think about implementing this.

>>18328536
>his boot partition isn't encrypted

Why do you guys encrypt everything that is possible? Even the booting?

Shit, the police wouldn't do THAT much work to get your CP out.
Unless you're hiding something that can make the world blow up within a few seconds, you don't have to protect it that good.

>*OPEN THE FUCKING DOOR*
>*GET ON THE FLOOR*
>*EVERYBODY WALK THE DINOSAUR*

>>18328596
Full-drive encryption prevents the computer from being booted without the Truecrypt password.

An example of a Windows system file which is of upmost encryption importance is hiberfil.sys, which can be the site of a memory dump from the RAM, which can be forensically analyze in such a way that your Truecrypt volume password is revealed.

A full drive encryption is necessary for maximum security.

>>18328596
Preventing traces outside of your truecrypt partition is downright impossible. Swap file, thumbnail database, browser history, cache, temp files, etc. Much easier to just encrypt everything.

>>18328262
If you're serious about encryption, use these posts:
>>18328311
>>18328345
>>18328435
>>18328467
>>18328558
>>18328644

>mfw my Ubuntu drive is encrypted
>mfw my Windows drive is Truecrypted

>>18328693
This, and if you feel like you may be forced to reveal the partition or partition password, securely wiping your files with dedicated deletion programs doesn't hurt.

Start with wiping the (I see you're using GNU/Linux) ~/.cache directory. Learn more about caches, and wipe and disable all caches where you can.

May as well ask here:

Why can't I do a full disk encryption on the Linux verson of truecrypt?

If I do it on windows and select the multiple operating systems option then does it encrypt the linux partition as much as the windows partition?

>>18328784
Yes, the Windows version should do it just as fine.

However, I'm not sure why you can't get it to work on Linux. Here is an example of the setup on Linux:

>>18328860
I thought system encryption (ie:you type your password on startup) isn't available on linux?

reminds me that i have to erase all the data off my old hard drives with dban. i keep putting it off.

probably a stupid question but since my old hard drives are in raid 0 format, if i were to 'lose' one of 2 drives to the fbi, how much data could they get from one drive?

>>18328889
Truecrypt replaces the bootloader for both Windows and Linux.

ITT: Pedophiles advising other pedophiles on how to evade the law.

True story

I hooked up a giant red "dont push me" button w/ plastic cover case to a usb cord on the back of my computer. When this button gets pressed it triggers a .bat file which I wrote to close all open applications and unnecessary processes, turn off all monitors (numbering 5) and launch DBAN and wipe my entire HDD. I tested the system after installation and it takes about 30-45 seconds for entire wipe.

Come at me bro.

>>18328950

>fbi person shuts off power to house
>takes computer

>>18328950
35 seconds?

Enjoy it being painfully easily for police to run file recovery on that shit.

>>18328950
Fun when a friend comes over and jokes around and presses that button out of curiosity.

>>18328950
>30-45 seconds
Yea it's really hard to break a single pass over write as well.

Have you considered using a mini black hole to compress the data

>>18327092
Oh is it?
I used the benchmark and it showed Twofish was only a little bit behind, both encryption methods where about 2 times faster as my HDD write/read speed though.
I trust twofish more than AES.

As they smash down the door I hold them at the door and tell them I demand to see and read the warrant in full before they are allowed to enter or seize anything. While I am doing this, a family member will be walking out the back door with my laptop and hiding it somewhere.

If they do not present the warrant in full, I am within my right to remove them forcefully from my property. In fact, my state has castle law in effect, so I am fully within my right to say "Show me a warrant NOW, or get out because I'm going to start popping some heads while you are illegally on my property".

I love how people don't realise it's another criminal offence to keep things encrypted from law agencies with a valid warrant and arrest. Ah well enjoy prison.

And, pretty fucked for piracy.

>>18328536

You can't be forced to reveal encryption keys in the US. We have this thing called the fifth amendment. You can legally just sit there in court and be a mute, and if they don't prove conclusively that you have broken a law, you are declared innocent....

I don't have anything illegal on my computer except for about 20GB worth of music.

>>18328950
If I were a federal agent, I wouldn't know what to expect when I come into the house.

I would have a boot key ready to dump your memory, cool your RAM to sub-zero temperatures, and reboot immediately while you are tackled or shot by the SWAT force. Thus, the data would still exist, possibly with a few critical files being wiped, and I would have your RAM memory dumped, hiberfil.sys, and a host of other malicious files (to you, now that they are evidence) to be used against you.

>>18329023
i'd rather sit in prison for refusing to give away my password than for cp.

>>18328999
Maybe there is not that much of a loss in speed in Twofish than in AES, but I use Twofish-Serpent (the most secure option available in TC) and that slows it down a fair bit, however I only use it for my 50GB volume with various files on it.
As for passwords, this goes for everyone, I'd suggest holding a small keyfile on a 32MB micro SD and hiding it in some blu-tack or something similar. Then just swallow it when the cops break in and shit it out at the piggys' toilet.

>>18329042
in america this would be enough to send you away for 30 years.

>>18329054
And you'd be $35 trillion in debt to the RIAA

>>18329054
No, not even in America.

Honest question: Why do you guys encrypt your drive? What do you hide?

>>18328982
This made me realize you said seconds, not minutes, and that you would be completely busted. Each and every file on your computer would be likely recovered through forensic analysis.

>>18329054

Civil offence, not criminal. You cannot be sent to prison for a civil offence.

>>18329077
We have files that we don't want others to get?

>>18329079

RIAA is still capable of completely destroying your life.
At least prisoners have food and shelter.

>>18328345
Would it help if I get RAM modules with red LEDs?

Hey /g/uys

this always bothered me

You know how some threads aare usually spammed with cp or some pedo posted a cp pic to bring attention away from topic?

well what if i browsed through those pictures and gets cached?

i have an addon that makes pics expand in size if you hover throught them

will i get in trouble if there is cp on my browser?

>>18327048
>Haha, what? Cops have better things to do here.
cops have nothing better to do than serve the rich and powerful

>>18329066
>(Trollface.jpg)

I do it in principle.
Browsing 4chan has a significant risk of storing CP on your computer. I have a lot of pirated content.

I don't really have anything illegal in terms of hard candy. (No hard time.)

Otherwise, I just like teaching people how to use the software effectively.

>>18329091
Well I have a few files here too that I don't want others to get. I simply changed the extension of it to .dll and gave it a name like api-ms-win-core-fibers-l1-1-1 to it and put it in the system32 folder.

That's really hidden good enough, don't need extreme encryption for that.

>>18327053
but the full drive isn't encrypted. it's easy for them to get the key

>>18329119
Yes. It is stored on your computer in what is called a 'cache', and people have gone to prison for even seeing thumbnails of child porn.

>>18329133
What if you use an external keyfile?

>>18329066
Information.
Any information that is currently legal may become illegal in the future. There are plenty examples, CP being the most prominent one.

>>18329143
They'll point a gun to your face and force you to tell where the external keyfile is.

Wow I've never a larger thread full of small time faggots in my life. Here's how the pros do it.

>Fake all CP, Music, and Movie downloads
>Get taken to court
>Get off because of no real conclusive evidence
>You are now protected by double jeopardy

Congratulations, you are now immune to any government sniffing of your shit

>>18328301
>don't know how hard drives or magnets work

>>18329157
That's not how double jeopardy works.

>>18329066
why do you lock the door to your house?

>>18329126
>implying file extensions matter

>>18329077
You didn't pick up that the kid was just trying to sound cool? a .bat file? c'mon man, that in itself should tell you enough

>>18329157

>double jeopardy

when did double jeopardy ever take place in your post? you gave an example of self incrimination, and a stupid one at that.

>>18329174
like you have nothing illegal stored in your computer

>>18329157
This is silly and simply wouldn't work.

If you download child porn later, that is another offense and another case against you, and you are not protected by double jeopardy.

That is like saying a repeat-rapist is protected from double jeopardy because he is being tried for rape again.

>>18329174
Because I don't want other people to get into my house and steal shit.
A password protection on your PC will do just fine. They can't get in.
Of course they may have a file on their USB that bypasses it, but nobody will get that close beside a friend. And you'll bust him real quick.

>>18329157
that's like
>kill someone
>no evidence
>kill someone else
>DOUBLE HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

and i don't even live in a shitty place with teh double jeopardy rule

>>18329191

yep. picture related

>>18329198
That's not true. A thief can steal your computer and use a Linux live CD to get your files.

That's what I would do if I were a smart thief; I would probably make more with stolen bank accounts and credit card fraud than I would off the robberies.

>>18329066
because it's my files
Fuck anyone else getting at my shit

>>18329220
>if I were a smart thief
>Linux live CD

that's not smart

>yfw I dont use traditional HDDs; magnetic store is too incriminating
>I create my own form of digital storage with a kill switch

only way man.. only way..

>>18329154
Truecrypt has a method of making hidden partitions so that no outside force can determine if it actually exists; the term is called plausible denyability.

>>18329220
>That's what I would do if I were a smart thief; I would probably make more with stolen bank accounts and credit card fraud than I would off the robberies.

Probably not. Learn 2 crime

>>18329220
I live in a busy flat. Shit, if you manage to break into my house and steal my PC without cops being called, you fucking deserve it.
The time they usually break in is at midnight. That's when I am always at home. And even when I am not, my neighbours will see it very quickly and call the cops who will be here in 2 minutes.

tailus live cd when wanting cp :)

nothing saved anywhere

>>18329236
It's so simple and obvious, that it isn't smart?
I agree. Any thief should do this.
I imagine many don't, though.

>>18329240
>120 gig hard drive
>100 gig partition
>nothing else
>oh well there must not be a hidden partition

>*OPEN THE FUCKING DOOR*
>*SMASH*

There's three doors they have to smash through and they're all laid out so there's a lot of ground to cover. Not that it matters.

>A police raid team barge in through your front door,
OH SHIT.

>they seize your computer[s] with the intent of examining your computer for
I have no CP so I am safe.

>illegally downloaded music,
This is not a criminal case, but a civil one, meaning the police are forbidden from caring about.
>films
Also they will have to prove that I didn't buy these movies sometime. Beyond reasonable doubt.

>and will check your browser cache for CP,
I never surf CP.
>which if you have browsed on /b/ in the past few weeks they will find.
Implying a thumbnail is sufficient to get me jailed.

>How well protected are you from being outed as a thief and a pedo in the press?
I'm not Swedish, so I'm pretty well covered.

>>18329253
using the live cd isn't smart somthing like kon boot is

Why does 90% of /g/ store CP on their computers?

>>18327184
>yfw I'm not in the US and thus have different laws.
You jelly?

>>18329255
People have been jailed for thumbnails of CP held in thumbs.db

>>18329271
becuase only 1% of that 90 will ever get jailed and it shouldn't be illegal

>>18329271

Because other forms of storage / viewing are even less secure.

encrypted swap, a process that zeros the memory of other processes on call

problem, officer?

>>18329275
what country are you in

I'll tell you guys how to do it

>leave wireless connection unsecured
>require additional logon information to access connection
>nobody will EVER crack the additional information
>could always plead in court they did (improbable at best) and went on a CP spree

Fix'd

>>18329284
>shouldn't be illegal

Well, why the fuck not?

>>18329292
It's illegal to leave your wifi open. Therefore, you'd still be the fucked one.

>>18329292
what do you do when they find
/home/porn/cp/4/*.flv

what it really boils down to is to keep your computer tower inside an MRI machine and just flip it on when the party police come ramming down your door.

>>18329294
because it harms no one and it is natural

>>18329294
it's a victimless crime

>>18329292
Or you could just "secure" your AP with WEP with a short lower case alphabetic password and say someone could've cracked it easily.
Be weary of changing it at the last second though, because most routers keep -mtimes.

>>18329307

Put it all in your shared documents

Tada

>>18328467
Also:

>THIS IS THE POLICE OPEN UP!

>I'm coming! Don't shoot!
>*flip switch*
>Open up door, get arrested.
>Everything is off.
>Everyone is pissed off.

OTOH, if the police are knocking down your door they already have enough evidence to convict you anyway.

>>18329254
Thats a TC container in unpartitioned space. Not the same as a hidden partition. lrn2 truecrypt

>>18329317
LOL
nope

>>18327018
>implying browsing /b/ is illegal
>encrypting furry porn

wow

>>18329306
>It's illegal to leave your wifi open
no it is not

>>18329308
>implying the information still isn't on the disk

Encrypt the entire drive (literally the entire drive, not just a partition) with dmcrypt. Raw dmcrypt adds no headers and stores no shared encryption keys. The drive will also appear unpartitioned.

Keep in mind to use cryptographically strong sector chaining method like XTS. Unsophisticated methods like CBC are susceptible to attacks, even if you use a strong encryption method like AES-256 and a good passphrase.

Due to how CBC works (i.e. uses the sector number directly as IV) and how filesystems are usually organized (i.e. try to store data sequentially, FS blocks are typically 2,4,8,etc 512-byte sectors), it is possible for investigators to prove presence of specially prepared files in the encrypted drive, even without knowledge of the key.

Read for more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_cipher_modes_of_operation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEX-TCB-CTS

>>18329317
>>18329319

Dudes....really?

I've been on onionib and if you think this stuff is natural or harmless, you may be sociopathic.

>>18328889
There are other tools that already does this.

>>18329279

A citation would be nice.

>>18329294

I don't really care if it's illegal or not. However, I think that far too much attention and resources are spent on CP.

>>18329326
They sometimes do, depending on what you've been doing. That's not always the case though; sometimes they get a warrant from a judge expecting that they are going to just be able to look at the contents of your memory with no trouble, only to find the Truecrypt bootloader.

>>18329091
please explain to me how nakedness is not natural

>>18329255
>This is not a criminal case
For now at least (which could be anywhere from a few hours to a month).
>Also they will have to prove that I didn't buy these movies sometime.
Even if you have five copies of the movie, they'll still ruin you.

>>18328564
>thinks /boot can be encrypted

confirmed for windows kid

I keep a small pistol next to my desk for this very reason.

It has a single bullet.

>>18329326
>Implying they'll even shout that out.

This is more likely to happen. Picture related.

>>18329354
it can
lrn to hardware encrption

>>18329352
meant for>>18329338

>>18329126
You do realize that Unix doesn't give a flying fuck about extensions, but about the first two bytes in the file, right?

So if you save lolita.mpg as "windowsdllfilesomething.dll" all you have to do is point Ubuntu at it and tell it to list all media files, and you're busted.

>>18329356

you're gonna shoot the hard drive?

>>18329366
you must not have ever seen real CP.

>>18329340
http://www.publications.ojd.state.or.us/A147231.htm

Find "child pornography", I think it's the first entry.

>>18329352
Nakedness is natural. A 32 year old dick pumping into a 8-year old pussy repeatedly is however, not.

>>18329378
>real CP

Funny, because any form if child modeling is always considered CP, even loli may be.

>>18329307
1. Create a second home directory on the encrypted drive
2. Log out
3. Mount drive
4. Log in
5. surf all you like while working on the "incognito" home directory
6. Log out, umount, login again
7. Now you are back to your normal home directory. All traces are stored on the encrypted drive.

>>18329384
why?
inb4anythingtodowithsocity

>no firewall
>no antivirus
>run un-updated windows xp
>torrent errything

>>18329399
ill see you in jail :)

>>18329279
Maybe in the US.or the EU.

>>18329393

>modeling

uh no..if that were the case those little beauty pageant shows that those little girls do would be considered cp.

>>18329403
so the world then

>>18329377
I'm going to shoot my head.

>>18329403

In Cambodja, cow fucks you.

>>18329412
Fun when you survive the shot.

>>18329291
Norway

>>18329384
In many countries and older societies, the age of consent is and was much lower than it is in the United States. It's only because of sexually-dysfunctional pedophiles that like pre-pubescents that such strict laws were enacted.

NOTE-I say dysfunctional in a biological way, in that you can't reproduce with such a young girl. It means nothing more.

>>18329384
There a plenty of other orifices, you know.

Well. I'd be fucked for illegal music, and films, but my browser is clean because I use incognito.
However, my DNS files or whateverthefucktheyare will show use of motherless

>>18329412

i know. i thought i would post something stupid like that. it's 2:30am. i got nothin better to do.

>>18329393
I don't consider any of that real CP. The real CP has entire imageboards dedicated to anally molesting infants. Yeah, it's out there.

>>18329424
Nobody wants to reproduce with them, it's all about having sex, not about getting kids.

>yfw finding someone attractive is natural the world is so fucked up that something like this can exist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratification_disorder

>>18329401
I've been doing this since XP came out. There isn't really anything to worry about on the internet, just don't be a dumbass.

Don't torrent newly leaked movies. If you must, grab them from a fucking file server.

Don't download random fucking cracks and shit. Scan them first. Infact, scan every fucking thing you ever download with an online scanner.

Open up wireshark every so often to see all your connections.

I mean, it really isn't that hard. Antivirus' are just for paranoid and stupid people.

>>18329436
If they are recording what you do (and they probably are), your ISP has a record of everything you do on the internet under your IP. It's best to use Tor if you're using networking for purposes considered unethical. It protects you even from your ISP, and the only thing that they can see is that you're using the Tor network for something.

>>18329446
that is wrong... like any rape is wrong. but fucking a 10+ year old because she wants to? not wrong

>>18329462

>Scan them first
>Antivirus' are just for paranoid and stupid people.

>>18329454
>Gratification
>Disorder
sure is christfags

>>18329467

blablablah you wont be on log if you didn't raise suspicion already

>>18329482
10-year old girls are curious about anything and don't know at what to hold back and what not. They don't even know what it is. Shit, even if you hand them over XTC and tell them it's candy, they'll fucking take it.

>>18329482
>10 year old wants to fuck with elderly man

this is what pedos actually believe!

>>18329450
I know.

I'm definitely against pre-pubecent sex, and I don't think it's actually consensual. Sorry for people who are attracted to such young children.

To let you all know, I'm not attracted to kids at all, I like my own age.

>>18329508
It's nothing to do with believe
I don't really find children attractive.
But i find it hard to accept someone saying it is not natural for people to find anyone under the age of 18 attractive

>>18329379

Interesting, but the point of that court case was the man's suitability for taking care of his children. Also, there were other reasons for the decision than just the CP thumbnails and some incomplete videos.

Not that it would be that surprising if someone really was jailed for having CP thumbnails.

>>18329524
Honestly 14 to 17 is well developed. They have breasts, periods, hair on pussy, a mind to think.
I don't consider that CP, but rather jailbait. In my opinion, from 14 it should be considered legal.

>>18329538
but girls are able to get pregnant at 10-12
and even before then they can still be attractive.

>>18329538

that's why elsewhere it is

>>18329538
what if they hit puberty earlier than that?

arbitrary numbers are arbitrary.

>>18329535
I do believe there is such a case; I used some quick key-wording to find a legal document as quickly as I could, and I hadn't read that one past finding "child pornography"

>>18329550

sexually attractive like I want to hit it?
I have bad news for you...

>>18329555
so you now need a certificate from doctor to keep the pedos out..

>>18329504
That is a problem our society has created
children of 10 should know all about sex

>>18329571
>be a pedofag
>blame it on society

>>18329555
Puberty =/= mind to think.

Girls can't make up their own decision at that early age. From 14, they can pretty much stand up for themselves and know what's wrong and what not.
Go ahead, try it. Give XTC to an 11-year old girl and tell her it's candy. Now try it at a 14-year old girl.
Come back with the results.

>>18329581
>don't let children know about procreation
>call everyone who sees a problem with that a pedofag

>>18329555
This is not an argument for pedophiles; this is rather a general statement: it seems there are many legal adults in the United States that shouldn't be allow to had sex with legally. There are some completely immature and idiotic people out there. Mental development is key, and that is random in all people, including for those with brain disorders, retardation, or even just slow development, taking longer than just beyond 18 to understand what is happening.

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT MY SEXUAL ORIENTATION

>>18329581
>implying thousands of years ago when children knew about sex and probably started having sex at 12-14 it was because of pedofags

>>18329588
After that night's over, the 14-year-olds do think it's candy and keep doing it until their brain is fried.

I agree with your idea though:>>18329594

>>18329594
>implying the law should be aloud to say when someone can have sex (do the most natural thing in the world)

>>18329588
what if she's of a mature mind at 13? 12?

the age at when this would become acceptable could only be determined by a psychiatrist. don't slap a 14-and-up label on everyone just because you think it's a good place to start.

Considering this from a historical perspective, not very long ago, people lived to about 30, meaning a 15 year old would be middle aged.

All of them would be reproducing like rabbits at that time, and it's not like they didn't understand what was going on or suffering some mental tragedy because of what comes naturally at that age.

>>18329588
people go to school when they are 5 and learn how to count and spell and shit
but they shouldn't be taught about their body's?

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION PROPERLY?

Why, can I do a full system encryption on truecrypt windows, but not on linux? And if I do a fully multi operating system encryption on windows, surely it wont be encrypting the date I write in linux?

>>18329622
> people lived to about 30
[citation needed]

>>18329588
>Girls can't make up their own decision at that early age.
see
>>18329571
and
>>18329624

at 10 you can do simple math.. you should be able to make simple decisions

>>18329624
I've got taught about bodies when I was like 10. Shit, my teacher even brought a fucking huge black dildo to the class and taught us how to wear a condom.
They do teach, don't worry.

>>18329629
You can do full-system encryption on Linux. LUKS can do that.

TrueCrypt is a shitty software. It's just popular among winfags and it certainly doesn't make it good or secure.

>>18329641
Then where is your justification for them not being able to make a decision

in my school it was 14-15 and we needed to get consent from our parents to allow sexual education

>>18329629
I answered your question the next post after yours:
>>18328860

It works on Linux, and you can choose to encrypt whatever files, partitions, or volumes you wish.

>>18329619
Then I don't mind the age 12 to 13 either. As long they can make up their own decisions and have a mind to think.
However, a 10 year can't do that. Every. Single. One.

Even though a 12-13 year old body doesn't interest me. That's just too young.

/g/ - Naked little girls

>>18329658
>However, a 10 year can't do that. Every. Single. One.

Why? when did mozart start writing?

> And if I do a fully multi operating system encryption on windows, surely it wont be encrypting the date I write in linux?

This sentence makes no fucking sense. What is "fully multi operating system encryption"? What is about Linux?

>>18329658
>hurr durr your standards of maturity are wrong
>mine are correct
>because I say so
this is why nobody listens to paedo faggots like you

>>18329667
That's an unique case. Try the average 10-year old girl.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GUYZ DOING.
ALL SEX IS WRONG.
I THOUGHT YOU KNEW YOU NEED TO WAIT FOR GOD TO IMPREGNATE A WOMEN TO REPRODUCE
THE PLEASURE AND SEXUAL ORGANS WERE JUST A BETA FEATURE

>>18329686
try a proper society.
I know 10 year olds now can't make the decision. I'm saying the should be able to.. they have the mental capacity just not the knowlage

I don't get it. How is having sex with a 13 year old any different from playing baseball with her, morally? We're both consenting, we're wearing protective gear, we're enjoying ourselves; in the case of sex, it's a natural urge that is in all humans, unlike baseball. So, why is it viewed as so wrong compared to any other way of enjoying yourself with a person whom you are close to?

>>18329686
but he said every single one, when he's clearly wrong

>>18329710
because jesus

>>18329710

because the 13 year old doesn't need to me emotionally mature to play baseball, you sick twisted fuck.

dutch police can,t do shit I simply tell them I refuse to give my PC/Laptop

>>18329710
>enjoying yourself with a person whom you are close to?

>enjoying yourself with a person who you are close to?
>enjoying yourself with a person to whom you are close?
fix'd

>don't browse /b/
>don't have CP accordingly
>have mac
>people think mac users are cool
>be considered a national hero just for owning one

Could be better, I still didn't get a nobel prize.

>>18329730
>enjoying yourself with a person to whom you are close? masterrace english

>>18329710
lol'd, yeah you're going to jail

>>18329726
Why do we need to be mature to use our bodies in the way it asks us to if it is safe with the right protection, fulfilling in the most basic sense of urges, and natural in that way also?

Is masturbation wrong in the same case?
No?
So, it's only the relation to the other person that makes it necessary to be mature.

Well, from where does that arise?

>>18329730
fml

>>18329467

How can I use TOR to download stuff from DDL?

>>18329754
Pic related, it's you.

>>18329776
Hey, I recognize that face. Isn't he the dude that wanted to creative a political party in The Netherlands to support pedophiles / CP in general?
It was called Martin or something. Can't remember.

>>18329776
I wouldn't really care.

I'd like to hear a good argument; I'm not actually attracted to kids, I'm just good at echoing a thought pattern that is disturbingly like a child lover's.

>>18329754
>to use our bodies in the way it asks us to if it is safe

when you trick little children into doing something, YOUR body asked for it. Not theirs.

>>18329776
pic related, it's the age of your great great great great great great great great great great grandmother when she was prenant

>>18329794
Create*

>>18329796
13 is now a little child?

You don't remember being 13 and wanting to fuck older people (whether men or women)?

It's their urge too. I'm not saying you have to be 30 for this to work; You could be 20 and she could be 13 and it's a federal case all of a sudden between two people who might love each other for real.

My porn drive is encrypted, and it's all legal porn, anyway. I don't browse /b/, and there's really no way to prove that my music is torrented seeing as I never seed past ~2.0.

>>18329802

Protip: She wasn't molested by a pedophile. Back in time, pedophiles made no majority of prepuberty sex.

>>18329810
It's also illegal when a 14 year old fucks a 14 year old

SOCIETY IS SOOOOO GREAT

>>18329794
Yup, http://www.martijn.org/

>>18329726
a 13 year old doesn't need to me emotionally mature to play dicks'n'balls, either

>>18329827
protip: that's what we are talking about
how it is wrong to not teach children about their body and around the age of ten they can make the decision

>>18329810
>You don't remember being 13 and wanting to fuck older people (whether men or women)?

>It's their urge too.

what the hell

plastic shop argumentation

Also the passage you wrote could apply to younger children just as well. So we take the last posts to assure no pedo feels like that was implied

>How well protected are you from being outed as a thief and a pedo in the press?

Hopefully not very

>>18329810
I didn't want to have sex when I was 13. I was quite shy. I only started getting horny around 15/16

>the pedo top 100
Oh my... HAHAHAHA

>>18329848

why are you so obsessed about it, though? If you weren't a childloving pedophile you couldn't care less about waiting some a few years.
There are plenty of years of unbound sex

What a coincidence this should be the first thread on /g/. I'm encrypting my HDD at this very moment.

Let's hope the coppers don't smash my door in for another 108 minutes.

fbi cant arrest me because i already burnt the body and tossed the ashes into the sea

>>18329860
I care about politics and human nature and care when bullshit like "it's not natural to be attracted to 14 year olds" gets passed around

>>18329849
That's not even a real or widely used term.

Yes, it could. Seeing as you're not disagreeing with it in any way, I assume you realize that since it applies to younger children as well, we could lower the age and still be ethically correct.

Modern society is like some Christian Quaker village with our bodies. We should be safe; but were it not for all the laws and the lies, we would be living in a much more free and fun society.

What is some good stuff to store in the outer partition?

I have a 500GB drive with pirated music and my University work on the outer and then porn on the hidden.

I have a 1TB drive i'm going to encrypt just for safety, all that has on it is TV shows and movies. If i stick that in the hidden what could i put in the outer to make it not look suspicious that i have a 1TB drive with a single txt file?

I don't have anything that will get me a prison sentance, more likely a fine for pirating music, but i like to be safe.

>>18329915
backups and some music like rips of cds you have

>>18329915
You could take two routes: pass it off as a storage drive or an OS/storage drive.

You could install Windows 7 and suggest that you use it for internet browsing and your uni work.

Also, I've been using the wrong trip, but it's been me.

>>18329467
> It's best to use Tor if you're using networking for purposes considered unethical. It protects you even from your ISP, and the only thing that they can see is that you're using the Tor network for something.

I thought TOR prevented torrents and downloads

everything is truecrypted, the login prompt is my company's attorney contact info, plus a list of commercial ip laws they will be violating by trying to access corporate intel.

last week some airport schmuck asked me to open my laptop. 30 seconds later he turned from tough guy into an apologizing sweaty pig

>>18329970
I believe that Tor can be used for torrenting; do NOT do this however. It compromises the bandwidth of the network, which each person bears the burden of voluntarily and you are compromising your future internet freedom.

I think downloads are completely allowed for sure, though.

Also, I meant viewing sites that may contain illegal content.

>>18329987
>last week some airport schmuck asked me to open my laptop. 30 seconds later he turned from tough guy into an apologizing sweaty pig

What did you say to him?