The other tablets always sound good on paper, but they just never work out as well.
Same thing goes for ipod vs all the other competitors.

Because they're Applefags.

>>16270122

nope.jpg

I have a generic portable MP3 player which I copy mp3s to the same way I copy files to any USB mass storage device.

It's cheap and works perfectly.

lol at the first comment
possibly the butthurtest macfag ive ever read

>>16270222

first comment on the cnn article i mean
tho the first commenter in this thread is also a bit butthurt

because no one with brains watches tv

i dont care how much bullshit comes out of steve jobs mouth im buying a ipad2

the apps are top quality anyone who disagrees has never used onethe ipodtouch,ipad,andiphone are great

the macbook air sucks the imacs and macbooks are over priced

and the macproworkstation is godly but out of reach for poor people like me and the macmini is gay

I love the commentors who dislike the article so much.

the commenter's are a bunch of butthurt macfags XD

>>16270233
What the balls is your ass doing here?

>CNN
>Complaining about facts at a religious meeting.

Stay classy, CNN

>>16270344
It seems like you are trying to reverse this unfortunate criticism of the commentors on the website referenced in the OP through mocking us.
May I remind you that we haven't tried to make the claims of the comments in the article more ridicolous than they already are and that it is only you who feel the need to make our posts look ridicolous.
This is silly.

>>16270249
It sounds like you already have an iphone or similar.

Why would you then get an ipad2?

>>16270249
>implying yo'uve used an iPad 2
>implying iPads arnt just over-sized over-priced iPods
>implying all macs are gay over-priced shit that huuurrrrduuuurrrr looks perdy

>>16270109
The iPad will be the first dual core tablet to ship in volume (multiple millions to US retailers alone on the 11th) the XOOM unlike some of you didn't ship in volume.

>>16270122

That comment is truly glorious. What you see here are the last laboured, but still semi coherent words before this man truly descends into madness.

>>16270404
.. Define volume then.

>>16270404

>the XOOM unlike some of you didn't ship in volume.

>implying i didn't ship in volume

Its called marketing you poor faggots
Every big business does it. Most likely whole his speech was consulted with apples legal department on what he can and cant say.

But here in europe I see news about orange or o2 getting fined all the time when they cross the line.
Don't know if americunts have federal counsel/committee that would fine apple $500mil for lying

Why won't Steve Jobs die already, I will surely be relieved when he leaves us. Hell I'll even throw a party the day he dies.

Responded to this poster already but due to the moderation, it wont be posted for says so...

>It's just sad, because obviously this article was not written by someone well versed in the tech industry and the true ins and outs of every product but, in fact, someone only well versed in the given specs without any actual benchmark testing, side by side comparison, or other such testing done to back up the claim in this article. The numbers (10000GB of RAM or 100000MP) mean nothing when the OS can't even keep up with it's own processor.
True, if you lived in a world of closed software development like Apple is creating. For the rest of us, operating systems can be customized and updated at will, and for free.

>3G on a $499 tablet doesn't mean squat when the service is spotty at best.
Is this a shot at Verizon? Because the iPad is sold by Verizon too. Also, Verizon is widely known for it's huge coverage areas. And even if the coverage did suck, it doesn't hurt to essentially have a 3G antenna for free. But Apple fans will never understand this as long as they keep paying for things and paying more than the worth of said things.

>Nor does a flimsy flash, when you could compare it to the light given off by a lit match...
Once again, better to have it for free than not at all or being charged for it.

>Apple doesn't build products before they can be perfected (for the current materials and means of production).
Wait a minute...

>They wait until they can deliver a gorgeous, unibody, thin, lightweight, product with all of those features before doing so.
WAIT! So why did they come out with the original iPad in the first place? Certainly technology has not changed so much in less than a year to the point where they couldn't have possibly included all the features of the iPad 2 in the original unit. Just face it, you've been scammed into buying two units.

(cont.)

>>16270479
(cont.)

>They aren't in the business of giving consumers a pile of junk before its time. (iPhone 4 is the first incident of its kind with Apple and, in my opinion, the incredible innovation that went into it's creation may have ultimately been a pain for iPhone 4 owners but opened the door to more amazing, problem-free, products in the near future).
There's that buzz word again, "innovation." And the iPhone 4 didn't bring much more to the table than a crappy antenna design and slightly better hardware, stuff that had already been around for some time before its release. And I've still yet to see these "problem-free" products.

>You knock Apple for bending reality? Look in the mirror.
No, the article accuses Apple/Jobs of straight lies. Android tablet/phone manufacturers have been completely honest and open about what goes in to their products and if you don't like it, you can wipe that shit and put whatever android or Linux distribution on it that you want. Something an Apple user wouldn't understand. The rest of the world doesn't need everything spoon-fed to them.

>There is no product like the iPad. There is no product that can do EVERYTHING it can with the PERFORMANCE it has. Period.
That is correct, Apple currently makes the most "seamless" and feature-full tablet. Why? Because that's what Apple has put almost its entire R&D in to because it could not compete in the desktop world (5% market share) so Apple tries to push a new culture and a new need for their own unique products. Clever girl.

>>16270372
jesus christ what the fuck are you smoking nigger

>>16270425
In business shipping in volume is shipping in very large quantities. The iPad 2 will be doing that in just a matter of days in the U.S. and a few more days after that it will be going in volume to many large global markets.

>>16270479
>>16270483
Never seen so much told in the space of two posts.

>>16270479
>tricked into buying 2 iPads
>multitasking

Also, I'm really having a hard time finding a niche for tablets. Maybe it's because I already own about 2 billion gadgets but I'm skeptical. I bought my $200 Nook Color (which should arrive soon) to give the idea a go but I dont know.

I already have a Droid X which has been rooted and given a custom rom so I can tether for free. I have a DSi for games, Kindle 3 for reading, Large laptop for home and a netbook with a free 3G connection. I'm afraid the tablet is going to turn into a porn box within a couple weeks.

>>16270594
lol'ed

>Holy shit! Steve Jobs lied about a product I have no interest in. I'm butthurt because people buy it.

Jew mad

>>16270381
ive used a reguler ipad and the apps are the real selling point of the thing

the thing has more more in common with a portable game console then a laptop

im going to buy a ipad2 since its a little better then the original

>>16270612
streaming services like HULU and Netflix on the 9.7-inch screen is nice and the other applications are also fun little time killers.

I prefer my vaio micropc than this crap. It can run linux.

>>16270612
the closest thingto describe the ipad as its closer to a nintendo dsi with safari then a reguler laptop

the best selling apps are videogames that appeal to 16-24 year old girls

>>16270688
What will you do when you lose your stylus?

Also musician here,

I play jazz which means when we record and mix, we have to have massive amounts of control with audio editing. My trumpet player is a HUGE Apple consumer, he's owned all the iPhone generations and a lot of their laptops (and the iPad). When we set up time with the studio and recorded our last album, all the Macs got put away. I asked him about this a couple months ago and he basically told me that even though Apple consumers will claim that their products are best for audio editing, this is only true if you don't know dick about music.

The editing software of Macs is way too child-like and dumbed down. You cannot get into fine details and he told me if feels like playing one of those cheap video games where you point and click where it tells you too. You aren't really playing, you're at the mercy of the software. This was coming from one of the biggest Apple fans I've ever seen and I guarantee you he was at that iPad 2 event.

It just makes me laugh to see the whole "garage band" thing. Real musicians won't ever touch that in any serious environment. If you don't know anything about music though, I guess it's ok to fuck around with it. Kind of like those teenagers that learn Nirvana by ear and never learn to read music and carry a guitar around but never really play it.

>>16270659

requesting original for trolling australian rules
football fags

>>16270688
but females 15-24 dont want to use linu nor do they want to play black ops

women love the look of the safari webbrowser plus they like playing games like angrybirds,world of goo and robot unicorn attack

>>16270677
see:
>porn box

>>16270698
Not the worst comparison I've seen, but the DSi doesn't have an identity crisis. The iPad needs Steve to keep reminding us what he thinks it is god for.

>>16270729
what's wrong with it being a "porn box"?

>>16270742
Depends how much you paid for it

>>16270483
>>16270479

[ ] told
[ ] untold
[ X ] monty python and the toldy grail

>>16270711
im a muscian they macpro workstation is use in top studios that guy you recvorded with was cheap probally wasnt even useing protools

protools cant run on most consumer macproducts for more then a half hour without crashing

plus protools8 m-powered for windows is defective

that guy was just bullshitting you to make a dollar

With some luck, AppleSoldier will release a new video soon, and we can hear the real facts told about the ipad.

>>16270745
iPad 2 starts at only $499 and you can get a new iPad 1 for just $399

>>16270711
ffs...

>Fruityloops & Garage Band = Toys
>ProTools & Cubase = Pro Audio

Available on both Mac and PC.

>>16270763
You're probably not a decent musician then.
If you think that Mac editing software stands anywhere close on the ladder compared to actual professional software, then you're an idiot.

>>16270784
You sound like an idiot.

>>16270776
I'd rather just buy a TB HDD for $60.

>>16270763
>didn't read that it was his bandmate who told him not to use apple software for editing.

>doesn't know that protools and most major audio software is for windows, and all studios use it.

Seriously bro. It's like when people claim that OSX is good for movie editing. It is if you're a fucking retard - try sony vegas.

>>16270763
I've never been in a professional studio that used a major Apple setup. Want a reference? Kung Fu Bakery, Portland Oregon. That's where Everclear did a lot of their album work too.

The only Mac system they have set up there is Digital Performer, which is really one of the best options. Everything else in there is all PC.

>>16270784
You moron. Every major studio uses Mac pros, Protools and TDM systems.

>>16270796
If you are buying an iPad you better already have more than that in your desktop.

A netbook is just as portable and more functional

Unless you're stuffing your shit in an envelope, they both dont fit in your pocket and they're both great for keeping in a backpack.

you're all forgetting that macfags this deep in are completely immune to being told
there is no logic for them anymore, only Jobs

>>16270776
I'd not pay that for a porn box

$200 was pushing it.

>>16270807
Did you miss the part where Apple said the iPad and tablets aren't supposed to be PC's?

>>16270818
But they are PC.

Things is, post PC is just marketing bullshit.
YOU ARE DIFFERENT
YOU ARE BETTER
NOW BUY OUR PRODUCTS
WITH ONLY THEM YOU ARE SPECIAL

some of you fools are confuseing garage band and ableton live which runs on consumer apple macbooks

with protools that would eat a macbooks harddrive for breakfast

protools is the music industry standard and it only runs CORRECTLY on macpro workstations stuffed with atleast 12gb of ram

>>16270826
Again did you miss the part when Steve Jobs said the competition was trying to make tablets into pc's and that is not what will work?

>>16270711

>blah blah blah blah
>said by a guy who never played a note.
>claims to play jazz, yet puts emphasis on remixing.

1. What a bunch of hooey.
2. Ray Charles played by ear. Dumbass.
3. You need remixing? No you don't. Jazz players don't give a shit about mixing, because it ruins the organic part of jazz. Jazz isn't supposed to be fucking polished like a pop tune, especially if it's improv. Some of the best jazz is done with two microphones in a studio directly to DAT or 4track.

The only "jazz" person who cares about mixing is Kenny fucking G. And he's not a fucking jazz musician. "Smooth jazz" isn't fucking jazz.

4. Jazz musicians don't do it for the fucking money, obviously, otherwise they'd be pop. Therefore they don't have a lot of money to pay the producer and sound engineer(s) overtime. And neither do you.

>>16270818
LOL POST-PC

>>16270803
everclear probally ships their music out to la to be mixed and mastered in l.a. in a protools set up running on a macproworkstaion
check the liner notes on the album im sure the official release was mixed and mastered in a different studio

>>16270877
Go ahead and laungh but Apple just sold more ~15 million units in just 9 months and this year they will likely move even more by 2012.

>>16270848

this
lots of jazzfag friends (some full time professional) and none of them give a fuck about mixing or software.

>>16270807
I'll admit that Tablets are better for "on-the-bus" type setups where you might be standing or in a crowded area. But they are simply retarded if you are anywhere near a table/chair.
>>16270804
>every studio
No, the amateur ones do.
>>16270848
Every studio session in the modern era cares about remixing. I went to college for this, bub. You know not all performances are live right? Have you ever been to a big-band recording session? The rhythm section is in a completely different room from the band. In nicer studios, the drummer gets his own room, the pianist gets his own, the bassist gets his own and each horn player has cans on and a separate mic. Why separate mics? For mixing.

This isn't 1920. Jazz means a lot more than old Ray Charles playing live.

Also, of course he learned by ear. He was fucking blind!

Smooth jazz is jazz, it's just shitty jazz. "Jazz" means a lot more these days than it used to.

>Jazz musicians don't do it for the fucking money
Bull
Fucking
Shit

Almost every musician would do it for the money if they could. They do what they love, sure, but don't tell me 99% would turn down a 6 figure gig to "stick it to the system."

And yes, we did have a lot of money to pay for production time. Colleges have a lot of cash and support their successors.

you guys are as confused as macfags that think they are artists

alot of macfags see professionals use macpro workstations with quad processors and stuffed with ram running protools and final cutpro they buy a macbook run those same programs and destrot the macbooks harddrive then they get the thing fi and just use the macbook for facebook use

>>16270923
I sit on my counch with my iPad 1 often don't see a problem.

>>16270945
*couch

>>16270898
> straight lie
Anyone giving a live performance with audio equipment gives a fuck about mixing and balance. Unless they don't care how they sound.

Anyone in a studio making a recording cares about mixing and balance. Unless they don't care how they sound.

Genre has nothing to do with it.

>>16270923
all prostudios that have hit songs on the charts use protools

you are kidding yourself if you think otherwise

think jay-z think beyonce think hatebreed three different styles all recorded on protools

>>16270945
see:
>table and chair

Or any type of data entry, really. I already admitted that Tablets would be good for browsing and media consumption in a relaxed environment.
aka:
>pornbox

>>16270965
Where did I once say people don't use protools?
We use fucking protools all the time.

>>16270841
I mean it was truth, like that 90% market share ?

Get it, Jobs is lying bastard. And he is good at it.
I admire him as person, selling cheap crap to idiots.
Making fortune on peoples stupidity.
Creating "you will be socially accepted if you own our products" aura, and making even more cash on people with low self esteem.

I respect him as one of best marketing geniuses of this age.

And those are reasons I stay away from apple products, simply not made for me.

>>16270965
http://www.proaudiodesign.com/gallery/index.php?level=album&id=3
>software recording
>2011

>>16270960

no, they have nerds like you to care about mixing

>>16270923

You fail reading comprehension.

If jazz musicians would be doing it for the money, they would be doing pop because that's what sells.

Jazz isn't even in the top 100. Only once in a great while (like once a decade) a jazz tune will make it to the top 100, but most of the time it's just pop. The only reason to do Jazz is to do it because you love it. Period.

And no, "smooth jazz" is not jazz. It's music with all the soul sucked right out of it by processing. It's not jazz, it's "jazz music product" like Kraft "american cheese product" is not real cheese.

>>16270960
jazz is not top40 top 40 music is recorded on protools just like movies are made in finalcutpro

untill protools makes a version of protools thats not buggy for windows this is how it will be

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6b54dec2f1/incredibly-amazing-apple-keynote
Funny shit.

>>16271008
>using shit software recording/mixing
>proving they don't care about music

>>16270987
Once you accept that it's always about the money in the end, things go down a lot easier. Jobs wasn't in it for the money way back when, but he clearly has changed on that.

>>16270994
Even pop takes natural talent. Jazz musicians play Jazz because that is their natural talent. You cannot pigeonhole someone into a genre they don't enjoy.
>The only reason to do Jazz is to do it because you love it. Period.
I know a lot of people who make a living off of playing and teaching jazz exclusively. Sure they love it, all musicians love their genre. But don't tell me Jazz is a profitless field. That just isn't true. Hell, I have a $250 gig on Monday coming up. Working a whole 3 hours on stage. Open bar to. Is nice.

>>16271008
We almost always use Protools, and usually on windows. It works for all genres.

>>16270965
>all prostudios that have hit songs on the charts use protools

derp herp

>>16270891
and those ipad 2s will be sold to the *same* fucking people who bought v1.

>>16270989
i live in massachusetts and recorded with a bunch of top notch producers there they all used protools
on macs

zeus,ted paduck,sir mathew ellard, jamie locke all use protools

>>16271052
Genius, isn't it?

>I'll sell you the same thing twice and you'll thank and praise me for it

>>16271053
Most studios do, but not even close to exclusively on Macs.

>>16270891
Family Guy has millions of viewrs

>>16271053
I was responding to the poster that said Jay-Z uses protools.
http://www.proaudiodesign.com/gallery/index.php?level=album&id=3
Proves that he does not.
Only shit musicians use software recording.
No one with talent and still cares about making music for the sake of making music uses software.
The delay is shit. There is nothing that can correct this.

>>16271047
what version of protools forwindows it gets buggy at times?been trying to find a good unbuggy version of protools i usually use sonar export stuff as wave files then have it mixed downand mastered on a macpro workstation runing protools

>Buy a second iPad. Child livers are delicious... but expensive!

>>16271047

Oh look, he claims I say that jazz is profitless.

No, I didn't say that.

But if you're going to get the *max* amount of money for your talent, you don't play fucking jazz. You play pop.

>250/night

I'll bet it's inflated by 50 bucks, but I'll give it to ya.

Yeah, that's pretty typical for a hole-in-the-wall-bar band per-player cut.

You're outed for a random bar cover band.

>>16271083
the blueprint album was recorded on protools

>>16271095
I would buy one if it had an IR and the ability to control my PS3 and do this for free.

>>16271072
...not sure if you have a point there

- watching Family Guy right now... On my Apple TV via XBMC

>>16271083

the delay is only on the windows version of protools that delay doesnt happen on the mac version

i believe ballmer's comment on the iphone still holds true today and even applies to the ipad. the reason it has so many apps is because it can't do the internet right. take a look the majority of apps do and compare to how you would do the same thing on a laptop or desktop computer. sucks doesn't it?

>>16271103
PSP can do it
PSP2 will do it too

>>16271116

I believe this, because disk throughput on windows machines is shit. It's even gotten slower with vista and 7. How Microsoft managed to do that fucking boggles my mind.

>>16271104
YOU!
Tell us what other iDevices you own!

>>16271094
I honestly couldn't tell you. I don't do that end of the process myself. I'm in front of the mic, not behind the scenes. But I can tell you, the nerd in me looks, and I see PCs.

>>16271096
And not everyone is going to go to pop for money. You can be the best guitarist or whatever in the world and still suck balls at pop genres because your natural ear doesnt lend yourself to that persuasion.

I'm 24, what do you want from me? $250 for 3 hours is pretty decent, and no, not a cover band, just something I only do a few times a month anymore. Lost the passion for it, I only still do it to be around old friends and make some extra dough. If I never picked up my trombone again I probably wouldn't cry. Such a waste of college.

>>16271116
There is a delay on all software.
There is no exception.
Even Delta's.
>>16271122
I know I have 3 PSP 1000's around the house just for it.
And a Slim for my PMP.

The fact that many music producers use Protools and Macs is no proof for superiority. Just because many people use / do something, it doesn't become good. Windows has the most market share of all operating systems and Apple fanboys constantly bash it. So either way you man up and admit that Windows is good because a lot of people use it or you come down from your high horse and recall your "argument". Otherwise you're setting double standards.

>>16271156
>get out of my head, Anon!

>>16271134
protools m-powered 8 for windows is shit it fucks up timeing this problem doesnt happen on macs that use different protools software and have built in firewire

>>16271116
>>16271134
Wow guys really.
You are this daft?
Software can not process instantaneously.

i read 2 comments and i wanted to kill myself.

the butthurt is so intense it's insane.

also, steve jobs is a flat out cunt, only way to say it really, can't wait for him to die from cancer

>>16271171
>software
>built in firewire
>software
fucking morons everywhere

Good thread

>>16271083
>Only shit musicians use software recording.
>delay

Please kill yourself. I have a 2ms delay with my crappy 150 home recording sound card.

>>16271096
he probally plays in a shitty bar band then got screwed bya studio guy running nuendo the failed muscians recording software of choice

>>16271213
>bar band
Nope
>screwed by anyone
Nope

>>16271209
2ms is a standard that even Deltas have.
This is a hardware limitation.
There is nothing we can do at present time to break this barrier.

The iPad screen is worth $400

Haters be hatin'

>>16271231
It's not the unit price I care about, honestly. It's charging way inflated prices for hardware (weve all seen the desktop build pics) and the "you will pay for basic applications that should have been included for free in the OS" thing.

>>16271231
>1024x768 8 bit IPS
>$400
No, just no

>>16271231
>8 bit ips
nope.png

>>16271222
>screwed by anyone
>Nope
Virgin confirmed.

Seriously, just give it up. You're being trolled hard.

>>16271231
Check EIZO prices for 400$ you can have 10 bit panel with better resolution.

>>16271258
I know I am

also:
>Implying I don't have sex on a semi-regular basis

>>16271252
Proof that it's 10 bit or gtfo

>>16271225
2ms is good enough for me. Just set a negative 2ms delay on the track for playback and everything is fine. Good audio equipment is not expensive. Only the big interfaces and mixers cost much because they incorporate good materials needed for the device to last long. Also cables to set them up across the room. And lots of channels to record many audio sources simultaneously, which is funny, because professional music gets recorded one musician at a time anyway. Fucking engineers are just too lazy to crawl behind the mixing console and screw around with the plugs all the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE

Here's a videoclip of the iPad 2 unveiling.

>>16271269
I fucking meant 400$ for 8bit ips = NOPE.PNG.TAR.GTFO

not defending apple crap...

>>16271203
built in firewire works better for recording then useing a usb to firewire device like protools m-powered uses for windows

>>16271272
Yeah we have adjusted.
The small people I mean.
I have a Delta 1010 myself.
I don't consider myself anything special.
I am in an old bar band that started too many years ago and am still using Cubase because it is what I know.
But recording 1 person at a time just ruins the soul.
I know you know this.
It makes it feel automated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtxqYoVfoTg

Look at 0:40s. That explains everything you need to know

>>16271288
Sir you need to check yourself.
Software does not have built in Firewire.
It is software.
Not hardware.
http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=products.family&ID=FWinterfaces
All work with Mac and Windows.
But PCI is the way to go.
http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=products.family&ID=PCIinterfaces

>>16271324
>But recording 1 person at a time just ruins the soul.
>I know you know this.
>It makes it feel automated.

No.

>>16271104
And it's all blurry. Bet that pic was taken with an iPhone.

>>16271367
Yes it does when it comes time to mix.

>>16271380
You are supposed to play at the same time, derp. Just use separate microphones to adjust each person's level.

>>16271380
Then you unfortunately have recorded with bad musicians who can't even play with a metronome.

>>16271391
>Remove band interaction chemistry.
>Create automatons.
>Sell Apple products.
Number crunchers. Number crunchers everywhere.

>>16271356
you idiot macprosworkstation have built in firewire

most windows pc's dont have built in firewire instead windows users buy m-audio products that connect firewire to usb and end up haveing a horrible protools experience

>>16271416
read
>>16271171
>protools software and have built in firewire

If I were to show you two recordings of the same band doing the same song, only one time recorded at the same time and the other sequentially, you guys wouldn't know the difference. You're thinking too highly of yourselves.

>>16271324
We recently recorded 5 guide tracks for upcoming album. Payed for a day in a good studio. We know the owner and he trusts our guitarist as he himself is a very talented engineer who just doesn't have equipent quite like this.

We spent hours tuning and micing the kit and the rest of us in different rooms.

Ran the set twice to warm up and let it count as rehearsal for that week. Then rolled the click track and the tape (see hard drive).

We kept the drums.
Left the bass in as we recorded.
gtrs and vox.
Then re-did bass.

It sounds and feels so much more alive than when we had previously done the whole guide gtr to click, add drums etc...

Dats my 2c

>>16271416
>indows users buy m-audio products that connect firewire to usb

Any decent motherboard has firewire.
Also PCI-E firewire card , ever heard about them ?

My 8 yr old ASUS mobo has firewire port.

>>16271401

you can have the best timeing in the world protools m-powered is buggy when it plays back it wont sometimes line up

unless you have used protools m-powered keep you opinion to yourself

>>16270706
>>16270706
use a fucking piece of plastic? duh, or OMG buy a new one?

>>16271446
I am not the one you're replying to. I don't use Protools for my recordings so I don't have that problem.

>>16271404
>No idea what he's talking about

The actual playing of music is the same as if there were no mics.

>>16271493
What do mics have to do with band interaction?

>>16271513
The musicians all hear eachother and are in the same area, like a live gig. I have yet to see why each being recorded separately as they play together would be a bad thing.

This seems to be article by someone who just wants to bad mouth Apple. The company is most admired for fourth year in succession. You thing 100 million iPhone buyers and 15 million iPad buyers are not educated? These products offer beautiful user experience and are extremely reliable. People who use Apple product never go back to competition. They don't give away their OS free to phone manufacturers and despite that they have very healthy market share. One should stop writing such articles. They are in real bad taste.

>>16271529
If you can afford it. Good luck getting a label as a no-name amateur band to pay for your "live feeling" expenses. You can do that once you already HAVE money.

>>16271539
>People who use Apple product never go back to competition.

Wrong. Quoted for shame.

>>16271561

You have been logically disproven, just give up.

>>16271555
I have never done a recording session without doing that. Given, most were funded by my college, even after being done with school.

Never sold the albums, just kept them.

>>16271539
>People who use Apple product never go back to competition
I just sold my last apple product last week, an iPod. I've switched to the competition.

Where is you Jobs now?

>>16271561
It's called a troll. Don't respond to it.

>>16271539
Big market share? Way to have your head up your ass, fuckin yank.
Go to Europe or Asia and suddenly Apple's market share <5%.
Symbian owns everyone even though it's on its deathbed.

>>16271529
Drummers and bass player eye contact makes a massive difference to the feel of the music mate.
Even if you are playing to a click track, the eye contact for a particular moment can dictate the emphisis or accents on the following notes.

Probably doesn't matter to jazz-playing-brass-band-members.

>>16271529
Because it sounds perfected and timed.
No alibiing.
You might as well be at home playing with yourself.

>>16271561
>>16271596

I just copy pasted that from the article, it was some butthurt person who replied to it.

>>16271611
Hey, HEY

wake up

We are all in the same area

We can see eachother

we can hear eachother

we might as well be in a fucking field

The only difference is we have microphones in front of us and cans on

>mfw reading comments
Applefags avoid the factual errors and start talking about how great and affordable (what) apple products are

>>16271618
People don't buy albums for the mistakes. You get enough of that shit with live albums.

Yes, even the great ones.

>>16271632
Wait how did you turn this from an conversation about software recording to live recording?

He is right!!!! What are we all thinking??? The zoom and galaxy are so much better! You get less than 100 apps for several hundred dollars more - No brainer!

>>16271618
>Because it sounds perfected and timed.

That's what good music is. Poorly played music sounds SHIT.

>>16271651
I think we are on different tracks if that's the case.

I'm talking about being in the studio when we record an album. It's always been one mic per player, every player has cans on and the rhythm section has their own soundproof rooms (with glass)

>>16271662
lol'ed and mostly agree.

It's one thing to praise music when it is unrestricted, but the point of recording is to make the best version of that song possible. Otherwise what's the point?

Nobody wants to hear you play a wrong note and just leave it that way.

I'm going to mail the author of that article informing him of his mislabeling of Android/Linux as Android.

>>16271641
The Foo Fighters just finished their latest album, due for release quite soon. Recorded the whole thing in Dave Grohl's GARAGE.
Music is not about perfection.

Forget LadyGaga. Real music has soul. I'm not saying music full of errors sounds good, but it's the human element that makes something excellent.

And RE: Microphones, you got confused a couple of posts ago as anon was talking about recording in a small studio with only space or mics or channels to do only instrument at a time.
Then you chimed in saying it shouldn't matter if you are a good musician.
I've been playing for 15 years and recording for 10. It does.

>>16271641
>>16271651
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>>16271732

Why the fuck are you talking about music?

>>16271732
>Implying that garage wasn't set up as a studio before recording
It's not like they opened up a laptop, turned on sound recorder and let her rip. The location was different, the technology was still there.

Gaga is actually a real musician, and Im not talking about her pop. She can actually play piano, read music and play some really high-end classical etudes.

If you're talking about recording one at a time, as in, taking turns, well yeah that's.... odd.


>>16271739
I mentioned Garage Band

>>16271739
Ready back through the posts and you'll see how we got here.

hey, how about if every performer in a band was in a separate room, but was able to see and hear other band members and recorded a separate track that could be mixed later or something and then joined with other tracks? wouldn't that be ideal?

I laughed when Jobs claimed Garage Band not to be a toy and the demo was all about playing music without prior knowledge. So much controversy, it was hilarious. I have to watch those press conferences more often it seems.

>>16271732
Oh and of course there is something to say for the "human element," but that doesnt mean you shouldnt take advantage of mixing and slight alterations if you can. Save live music for the stage and live recordings.

Example? System of a Down as wildly popular. They released some really clean albums. Very tight, very professional. Ever hear them play live? Holy shit they sucked bad. This is true with a lot of rock bands too.

>>16271790
For smaller groups, this is the general practice in a studio. Especially one with a great setup. Not always the case, but a time proven method. Larger groups cant do this, as there arent usually enough rooms.

>>16271807
He's just making money with his mouth again. Trick real musicians into buying that shit and never using it, make the guitar kiddies think it will make them Kobain or something and then never use it.

>>16271790
Takes too much time. Even the best musician makes mistakes and you can't expect 5 people to concentrate for HOURS after HOURS and not make mistakes. If you screw up, the whole band has to start again. And if you keep the error and overdub it later, then what was the point of playing together in the first place?

>>16271759
Oh the garage was just for the band, but the control desk and $300k+ of gear was in the house, but the garage itself was not sound baffled in the same maner you would a sound studio.

It gives the whole album a more raw/unprocessed feel about it.
Prediction: They still sell a shit-tonne of albums and you will beg the radio to stop playing it!

Gaga is rubbish btw.

>>16271844
You play together to keep time, feel and inspiration. A bassist is going to be awkward as fuck playing just his part and nothing else going on. It's going to sound stupid.

Dude, do you know how long the pros take to record a fucking album? We do it that way in a day, they take months at times in the studio.

>>16271859
It's still going to be a clean sound, even if the atmosphere of the recording sounds different than a padded studio.

And like I said, Im not into Gaga's pop, but I respect the fact that she's no Brittney Spears.

>>16271882
>do you know how long the pros take to record a fucking album

Actually I do. They hire a sound engineer to use magic_overproduced_string_orchestra.vst while they're out wasting their money on crack, heroine and prostitutes.

>>16271882
I have nothing left to argue with you about. Good evening Pete.
Good luck with the brass band.

Apple is like Libya
once Gaddafi dies the whole government collapses

once Jobs dies the whole organization will implode into a massive ball of gay.

>>16271913
Well at least we stayed mature and not typical 4chan, right?

Was fun, have a good one!

>ipad thread
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvG0fbdMwGc&feature=player_embedded

>>16271732

wait wait wait...they just released an album that sounds like demo tape? What's next, making a hollywood movie in a camcorder?