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i dunno what the average is.. but I'd say you'd have to make over 200k yearly to be considered upper middle class.. completely relative though.

4000 is average i think..it really depends where you live.

my friend's dad makes 150k a year, he calls it upper-middle class. but i mean, they have a 1 story 2 bedroom house in santa ana (poor city full of minorities and potholes), 1 car (a scion with special ordered leather seats), still uses a projector tv, smelly furniture from the 70's and 80's. but they shop at those whole foods places where your groceries would cost 1/4 of the price at albertsons

It is entirely dependent upon where you live in the nation. For instance, the cost of living is extremely high in Northern Virginia while it is extremely low in Pittsburgh.

Depends, i live in NYC i think average person with a good college degree makes about $8,000 a month.

Rich would be i guess $20,000+ a month.

>>2087213
"the cost of living" is pretty much the same everywhere the only thing that really changes is real estate.

>>2087212
sounds smart. too many people on 100k incomes trying to live like their on 200k incomes. the american dream work till you die

>>2087213

I live in Pittsburgh

It's a pretty cool place, if you can get a good job, can tolerate lots of overcasts, and don't live in niggertopia.

>>2087232
>>2087212
>sounds smart. too many people on 100k incomes trying to live like their on 200k incomes. the american dream work till you die

true, so i guess 150k for "rich" isn't a good description. maybe by about 250k and upward?

>>2087232
What the fuck are you talking about? The cost of living is drastically different everywhere, mostly because of real estate, but other factors play a huge role.

You are a completely glib idiot who has no idea what he's talking about.

>>2087274
Yeah I guess. 250k+ I'd say is "rich" compared to the majority, but I still think that's quite a ways from actually being rich.

150k a year for one person is a lot, in my opinion. that's definitely upper middle class. If spent wisely you could live extremely comfortable on that just about anywhere in the U.S.

I meant it was smart in the sense that while they can afford to drive BMW's and live in a big house near the beach and be chained to debt and interest rates for their entire lives they choose to live well within their means.. unlike most of America.

>>2087232 "the cost of living" is pretty much the same everywhere the only thing that really changes is real estate.

horseshit. only a 19-year-old who still lives with his parents and has no bills to pay thinks that.

>>2087281
>nothing really changes except real estate

That's exactly what I just said. It was good of you to give examples btw.

Electricity, gas, auto fuel, food, water, taxes these things are pretty much the same.

i'm 23. my income is niggers.

>>2087307
no. utilities vary depending on where in the country you live. again, you're either a midwestern smalltown teenager who doesn't pay any bills or a Eurofag who lives under state-funded utilities.

>>2087295
ya, they're definitely in a comfort zone. they afford to eat nicely and watch tv for many hours of the day, and it shows. people don't need to be rich to be comfortable. just enough to have nearly no financial worries.

funny, cuz my friend always complains about his parents being jews, and not paying off his credit card, and not buying him a laptop. but it sounds like if they weren't jews, they might have taken that huge mortgage on the house by the beach, and the BMW 7 series for 700/month. and they might have defaulted by the time all the market crashes were happening. so, i guess they are pretty smart

>>2087307
What about how much gas you have to use to get to work daily? What food you buy is dictated by your location as well. And how about property taxes (if your a home owner)?

And these bills aren't the same everywhere. In places where there's serious shortages, things become more expensive. See California, for example.

Around 2100€ per month at my disposal (after all insurances, taxes etc.).

That's about 50000 US$.

>>2087329
>no. utilities vary depending on where in the country you live. again, you're either a midwestern smalltown teenager who doesn't pay any bills or a Eurofag who lives under state-funded utilities.
>where in the country you live. either midwestern or Eurofag

lol

>>2087342
Yeah this is true my shithole 1 story in Pomona went up about 150K since 2008.

>>2087351

your point is?

The average income is like 28k per year. In my mind, 100k is upper middle class, 200k is lower upper, etc

People really overestimate the income of the average person.

Bahaha wow im from norway and americans sound like poor shits <_<

>>2087369
28k a year is just above the poverty line. especially in a major metro area.

>>2087329
>>2087342
hey fags look at this.

del mar, ca - highest national average
shit fuck indiana - one of the lowest (as of 4th 1/4 2009)

notice how every other factor is pretty close to 100 (the national average) except for housing being 96% of the change.

looks like im right (as always)

>>2087342
>And how about property taxes
>real estate

you're dense as fuck, bro.

>>2087369
actually, 28k is the median income in the US. average income is 55k.

>>2087378
your pretty picture means jack shit. get out in the real world where your parents don't pay for everything and get back to me.

>>2087397
Nice cop out.

>clearly defined spreadsheets mean nothing!

move along you've lost here.

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I'm 19 and I make 150k-ish an year. I consider it upper middle-class but not 'rich'.

People think I'm rich because I dress good and blow money on ridiculous stuff but then again I'm a solo person.

>>2087416
You're not 19.

>>2087418
Yeah I am

Born in 1990, ask Ray (flatsoda) he knows me IRL.

>>2087416

what do you work?

>>2087427
Internet Marketing

I know people making millions an year doing the same so I'm pretty small compared to them.

>>2087406
>my random unsourced and renamed graphic that took me 20 minutes to make means absolutely nothing.

fixed that for you, kid.

>>2087423
Ray is a faggot who sucks even at AVA that is unmerited.

>>2087372

1 in 5 kids in US live in Poverty

What do you expect?

>>2087430

Thats cool

How did you start? im intrested.

>>2087433
go back to /r9k/

>>2087444

http://www.associateprograms.com/articles/156/1/Beginners-guide-to-affiliate-programs/

www.wickedfire.com

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Then once you step out of the newbie stage, you can start thinking up your own methods.

>>2087435
yo shuttup doop

>>2087406
http://www.bls.gov/cpi/

read this. and shut up.

>>2087446

Thanks

*saved*

>>2087447
You're 7.

>>2087471
7 and 8

yes

>>2087448
read what? you just gave me a link to a list of more links to random spreadsheets

you've lost faggot get over it. the #1 significant factor in cost of living is real estate. you dont have to get mad about it - just learn from it.

anything else you were wondering about id be happy to help you out.

>>2087491
Cost of living is more than just real estate, even if it's a big portion of it.

A lot of it depends on your culture, connections, education and family.

You can make 300k a year and still be upper class, or you could make 5 million a year and be middle class. It all depends on who you are.

Not sure average income

I believe its $250k+ anually to be considered an accredited investor which=rich.

i think the highest tax bracket we have is $200k+ a year. so if you make that much, the government would consider you rich.

100k a year is middle class. I'd say. Anything a little above or below is upper and lower middle class. Below that poverty. Above that, upper class.

300k is rich to me. My boyfriend's dad makes that much and lives, what is to me, a stupidly extravagant lifestyle. I grew up in a household that makes about 60,000 combined a year. And i've grown up around people whose households never made more than 150k.

i consider my family in the sort of shitty suburbs of los angeles upper middle class. they are combined $120,000.

i consider rich anything over 150,000.

i doubt many 20-30 year working kiddies can make that much just 10 years out of school.

I'm a student and I work in a restaurant part time to make ends meet, I make around $10,000 a year.

fresh out of college fashion grunt = ~$50,000/yr
with experience goes up to $80,000/yr
avg in this economy is prob around $45,000 since 20-30 yr olds are split between being unemployed and poor as fuck, or wunderkind start-up stars or trust fund babies

20-30?

unless you are hired as a doc/lawyer/dentist ect right out of college, you will be making about 30-40k a year

so, basically, 30-40k a year, bar the 5% of lucky people to get high paying jobs right out of college

hmmm, Americans are richer in general than I imagined..

>>2087703
Your numbers are incredibly bloated. That wasn't true even in the midst of the '04 or '05 bubble

>>2087588
>5 million a year is middle class

your post is shameful. you have disgraced your ancestors

>>2087730

Americans are poor as shit.

>>2087369
>>2087386

Yeah anything over 150k is upper middle class considering average income to be average income is 55k.

>>2087849

Well my family has lived on 15,000-25,000 for my entire live and there were four of us, two cats, a dog, two guinea pigs to look after too....and I've been called middle class but then again in the UK class isn't dependent on wealth but on social background.

>>2088098

15,000-25,000 pounds or dollars?

I think thats more than enough.

>>2088098
$25,000 middle class?

lol no, you were poor.

when i was growing up we lived off of $300,000 ish went up or down.

we were lower middle class. upper lower class at best.

middleclass would be damn near half mill a year IMHO

>>2088101

pounds but 15,000 is roughly 23,000 dollars

>>2088102
>upper lower class
>$300,000

shut up, toolbag.

>>2088102

>middleclass would be damn near half mill a year IMHO

then 90% of Americans are poor?

>>2088102

GTFO MIDGET NAZI

how much do pharmacists make in america

>>2088102

as I said, in the UK class isn't based off income: your job, the way you speak, what car you drive, how you decorate your home are indicators of class not income. My mother's side is very upper-middle class with her background being a merchant in Northern Africa and an ivory dealer. Father's side upper working class or lower middle class and so I'm considered to be lower middle class

>>2088110

brits are weird.

>>2088105

This

>>2088106

Over 95% according to statistics

>>2088102

You are a major fucktard.

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>>2087218
Based on social nackgroudn because you still live in a fucking middle-age monarchy.

>>2088171

What dose that suppose to mean?

Class is bred, not made. Sorry faggots, making a lot of money doesn't make you classy.

>>2088199
Money gives you the opportunity to educate yourself. It's up to you.

>>2088205

No, even when someone from the lower classes manages to strike it rich they will still take their lower class values and mannerisms with them. That stuff they can never get rid of. And the true upper class can smell it miles away.

>>2088208
Haha, the only people that get this butthurt are the people barely one generation removed from the hoi polloi they claim to despise. Logically it follows that someone actually blue-blooded wouldn't feel as threatened as you do

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>>2088208

Class System in England was over in the 60's, just saying.

>>2088208

I kinda agree with that....call me weird o_O

>>2088109

pharmacyfag here, graduating this month and i have a job lined up where i'll make 120k USD per year at a retail pharmacy. they also gave me a sign-on bonus of 20k which was nice.

>>2088208

i tend to agree with this statement, however its not always true. every once in a while you get somebody from the lower class who works hard to become what everyone around them is not and they end up a respectable person with good values.

i come from a dirt poor family but hated it and aspired to become someone who is respected. got my MD and now fit in amongst upper class snobs in country clubs, they being none the wiser of my pig disgusting roots

i ashamed

>>2088102

LMFAO

quit talking out of ur ass nigger

>>2088264

MD eh? What specialty you work in? I ask because I'm studying for that myself

-_- I NEED TO MAKE ALOT OF MONEY TO BUY DESIGNER CRAP OH WELL..

Fuck I only make like $15k a year after taxes.

>>2088299

i'm a first yr cardio fellow

>>2087430

wow, I'm currently starting out with IM and will spend the whole next month implementing methods every day, as I have nothing to do for the next 4 weeks.

How long did it take you to reach the 150k-ish per year?

>>2087165
This bullshit needs to stop, immediately. Evidently, some trashy kid with a rich family is really into trying to show off his e-penis on here.

1. The average income is ridiculously low. When it all boils down to it, the majority of Americans are incredibly, incredibly poor.
2. Because of this, "middle class" is something around $40-60k/yr. I'm not exaggerating -- this is how much most rely upon, and it's pretty standard. This is not being poor, either -- you can make a good living on this.
3. Upper middle probably begins around $90k and up. This is a pretty big swath, of course, but you'd be surprised at how few people earn above this. Most of the population (nearly 75% of it) is under this.
4. Above the $90k is the upper-middle and upper class, and the line between them is largely irrelevant, but I'd personally place the defining line at $150k or so, which would place the average Congressman in the upper class. Remember, monthly income is also complicated by savings one sits on.

Read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States

But yeah, all you kids need to calm the fuck down. If you're rich, congrats. But your income lording is trashy.

>>2088233
Yeah, thats what American's actually think.