Buy a gun and kill homeless people.

>>209866
That's less than helpful but I am bringing a rather large knife in case I need to defend myself and for other various purposes.

go to /trv/ there is heaps of "trainhopping" threads etc... basically bums i think.

>>209870
What part of LA? There's a difference between bumming it in Compton and bumming it in Irvine.

>>209896
>implying he'll stay alive long enough to bum it in Compton.

>>209896
Irvine is in Orange County. Huge difference.

OP,

Make sure to visit your local food drives and homeless shelters, they will never turn down anyone for a free meal. Stick near those places to makes sure you always have some resources, they will also have emergency medical aid if needed.

Use your better judgements friend, tr your best to stay out of trouble.

>>209864
find somewhere warm and dry on a night.

keep your wallet somewhere that nobody can find it

get a padlock, a carabiner and some wire rope. Padlock the wire rope to your backpack and use the carabiner to clip the wire rope to your beltloops when sleeping. stops people running off with your backpack.

erm... when i was sleeping rough i used to use public libraries as somewhere safe to sleep during the day. Mcdonalds will let you sit in all day if you buy a coffee and don't smell too bad.

try and find somewhere secure for overnight. Seriously; this should be number 1 priority.

and be prepared to be cold. the first night's the worst.

>>209864
Are you doing this for fun?

>>209864

While living off of the value meal at McDonald's would kill a normal middle-class American, I think it would be fine for someone like you who is living on the bottom rung of society.

You can always beg the normal way (ie. "Ninjas killed my family; need money for karate lessons", "Bit by werewolf, need money for silver bullets before next full moon.") or you can be honest. If I were homeless, I'd make a sign saying, "Need $1.10 for a burger." If I saw someone with that sign I would just give them a couple of bucks. I recommend getting the money and then promptly retrieving your burger. You should be able to get three square meals like this.

If you have any money, gym memberships will help with you getting a shower and staying presentable. I would also try taking short naps during the day, maybe at a library like the other guy said, and then try to bus tables at Denny's for free/near free/minimum wage/free food at night. That will keep you out of the cold and out of the scary darkness.

I really recommend staying indoors at night simply because that lack of sleep, the constant fear of being mauled by another hobo, the penetrating cold, etc. is what I see driving people farther down the path to madness. Stay at Denny's or another all night establishment.

If you shower during the day you should be able to do this. And get a hat because your hair is going to get long and disturbing. Also, shave when you can. Only use clean razor blades. You can use free gel soap as shaving cream if you must.

Good luck dude... Can I ask how this happened to you?

Why?

>The city is LA

Leave LA

Most homeless bums try to stay someplace dark and alone to keep away from the public eye and away from any harassment. But once those bums are found by the wrong individual, they get the beating of their lives with no one around to witness, much less intervene.

There's a fairly busy intersection in the suburbs near LA where a bum sleeps every night sitting in a lawnchair covered head to toe with a blanket and tarp. He sleeps on the sidewalk, right on the corner in front of a gas station (you know how bright those gas stations are). If anyone fucks with him, there are sure to be witnesses; so no one fucks with him. Right across the street on the south side is a county hospital routinely patrolled by emergency workers and police. Across on the east side is a Jack in the Box with a 24 hr drive through, with the drive through window having a clear view of the bum. Opposite the bum's gas station is another well lit gas station.

It's an eye sore to look at sometimes, but he's probably the smartest and generally safest of all the bums in all of the south land.

No one is going to outright fuck with him in plain sight like that. I'm not sure how police or property managers in that intersection feel about him. He minds his own business and they just let him be. However, just the other day a bum that used to live in the shadows near an overpass recently got his shit torn up. Just something to consider.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/64088059/Steal%20this%20Wiki/wiki.stealthiswiki.org/wiki/Free_Shelter.html
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and this guy has a few homeless shelter things in his channel that you could /diy/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG0aRjKDnKo&list=UUVEvg5_CuH3v2Mhb8pQ1Xrg&index=24&featur
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Fuck that. Leave city, go innawoods. Animals are a shitton less dangerous than those of your own species. Just stay off the ground, build an enclosed shelter, and you're safe from them. Save/use the rest of the little money you have left and buy a book on how to build with natural resources, and a few yet sturdy essential tools. You want these to last a while, so don't get some flimsy pos. Honestly, these things can get quite fun if you get creative with them. http://www.survival-spot.com/survival-blog/9-unique-alternative-housing-ideas/ Has a ton of ideas and links to at least get you started. And of course, browse amazon for books as well. "Alernative homes" "DIY houses" or something like that. Good luck to you.

hi op. go to venice beach, hold a sign, and smoke pot with hobos and hippies for the 10 days.

bump, this shit's pretty interesting.

>>210030
Seconded, how much cash do you have to work with, OP? Anything set aside?

try googling this

site:www.binrev.com urban camping

protips:

look for a low volume public bathroom with multiple stalls and warm water preferably.
>I would brush my teeth and spit into the toilet.
>Shave with a mirror and disposable razors that I had bought from the $1 store.
>wash my face, my upper body, other area, and feet with warm water I collected in a small bottle, a bar of soap and a wash cloth.
>if someone walked in I'd stop then wait till they left.
>I never washed in the same place every day.

You should try to get a job.

>get a gym membership for washing and staying healthy.
>if you have stuff you can't carry you could just get a storage space.
>buy non perishable food items and mulitvitamins.

>>210039

Dude, even with a job and even on the job, I brush my teeth at the sink in bathrooms holy shit. Nobody gives a shit. You sound like a shameful hobo. Also, some truck stops, mostly Flying J's (at least around here) have showers. I just use those on occasion.

But I'm not homeless. Just a poseur/disgusting human being.

couch surfing my nig

>>210037
not OP, but this shit is pretty dry, and at least, episode 1 is full of common sense shit.

Couch surfing is my vote if you have four or five friends who wouldn't mind putting you up for a few days. It's safe, you're in good company, have hot water, and a shower.

Store most of your shit in a self-storage unit, keep a backpack with a few pairs of clothes, towels, hygiene supplies, and some books or something for your down time. Swap out your clothes from your storage unit when you need to, and do laundry at a Laundromat.

Don't argue, don't make noise, don't make a mess, keep your stuff confined to your backpack when not in use, don't overstay your welcome, don't mooch off your friends, don't use their stuff without asking, throw them a few bucks afterward even if it's just a 5'er.

Common recommendations for hygene:

Truck stops will often have pay-per-use showers for out-of-town truckers. Check the industrial parts of town.

If you've got the money, buy a monthly gym membership. You'll then get free access to their showers, changing rooms, etc.

>>210323
What are these signs? Do hobos draw them on the walls or what ? I have never encountered something like that

>>210328
Hobosign traditionally occurs on fenceposts out in the country, near railroad tracks.

>>210328
Yeah, supposedly. There's some hobo code so you know where to go and what to watch out for. IDK how common it is, but couldn't hurt to have a card on you.
May I suggest finding a book on local plants you can eat?

>>210333
The state conservation agencies love handing out pamphlets on this shit. I love them for it.

I think this is about all I have that will be helpful except some stuff about shelters and general survival stuff.

>>210336
Nice. What state? Maybe they have some stuff online.

>>210342
Well I'm in Missouri, 100% of their stuff's in pdf form online, most states are similar.

>>210339
Neat guide. $1 for a bottle of shampoo will double as a bar of soap. Shampoo is a decent bodywash.
Dumpster diving is GREAT. Especially in places like dollar stores where they throw out unsold stuff for quick shelf turnover. I found a CRATE of melted candy once, guess the truck wasn't insulated well. If you're sociable enough, everything is currency. Barter is beautiful.
Chipping in and feeding a dozen people is cheaper per-head than going solo. Last-day meat from a local butcher comes by the POUND, be friendly and ask and you can feed your posse right. Bread outlets are also cool.
Kool-aid(not the plastic shit. Buy packets) will make a bottle of water slightly more drinkable, sweeten with either packets from restaurants or nothing, it's still better than water all day everyday. Also that shit is made of citric acid(vitamin C yo). Keep healthy.
Volunteering can get you a room to sleep in even if you don't get paid. Find your local charity/thrift store/church and say you'll haul crap for a room and you're gold. They're nice people, be nice to them.

>>210358
My state just now is putting forms for permission to hunt online...

>>210358
Lots of restaurants don't turn off their external power at night, want to recharge some batteries? Same goes for landline phones, if you have a 3/8ths socket you can pop anybody's grey phonebox and wire a phone into somebody's lines.... wouldn't recommend it unless you're desperate to call someone at 2 AM on somebody else's dime.
What should you carry? Preferrably a nice compact mess kit, but a pot that can double as a frying pan. Non-perishables: bulk sugar is great but I do love me some restaurant sweetener packets, light as hell.Cooking oil or shortening(put this shit in a can or jar, reuse the fuck out of it, but it DOES spoil). Salt, bouillon is great. Ramen(if you can, scrimp on the msg packets, they can pull double duty as bouillon). Oats. Anything more perishable can be obtained as you go. Also, popcorn's a simple treat if you're set up good.
Carry first aid shit & duck tape. It sucks taking a rusty nail to the leg and not being able to patch it up for the 4 mile hike back to your spot.

>>210388
Out of your comfort zone? Stop in the cheapo theater for a nap. Dollar/porno theaters still exist in places, privacy is... usually assured. Rooftops aren't... horrible, but exposed to the elements. Seriously avoid dark scary places & abandoned buildings if you're alone, never know.
If you have to pick & choose... keep your shoes & coat intact. Shit's vital for everyday living while also looking nice as possible. If you've got some change or can sneak a second, pick up a newspaper. Coupons and classifieds are your friend. Also newspaper is great for insulation. Out of date papers also work well, see someone reading a paper?(in this day and age? seriously?) ask if you can have it when he's done. Saves him the trouble of trashing it.
If you happen upon a construction site, snatch you up some of the plastic liner if you can get it. Makeshift tent or umbrella. Pallets are plenty useful for firewood or a hobo-shack wall, especially when combined with plastic lining shit.

>>210417
Here's a graphic that might help OP make a shelter out of the plastic you're talking about.

>>210425

>>210428
And if you need to come up with something to protect your feet under your shoes, especially in the cold.

>>210425
That's very neat, I haven't even thought of a lot of those things yet lol. That plastic can also be used to collect/hold water if you're busy rain-showering with shampoo for a bodywash.

Also buckets. If you can snatchemup, cool. Hardware store? Couple bucks per 5/10 gallons. Buckets work for collecting water, for toilets, extra storage. Especially if you're a roof-dweller in a plastic hoboshack. If you gotta gtfo, they're not a huge investment, but seriously buckets are awesome. I'm trying to think back on more shit I managed to pull off when I was homeless.... Getting by takes up a lot of your brainpower. Fuck memory.

>>210432
I have all kinds of crazy stuff. I need to make it into a booklet.

>>210432
How did you end up homeless ? This is so fucking interesting, tell us some stories

>>210438
I've used those when camping, great stuff. Also want to try tapping trees for sap. I hear birch sap is delicious in the spring. Speaking of booklets, learn to love the public library. Best place to waste time during the day, if you're not working for your shit.

>>210439
I ran away in my early teens, mom was an addict after divorcing my dad, who was living in a shitty divorcee rental house in the shittiest ghetto suburbs. Dropped out of public school(catholic gradeschool kicked me out earlier), truancy guys didn't notice? Ended up couch surfing for a while, bumming around when they cut me off. Eventually got my GED and shit. Pretest guy was like 'fuck the studying, just take the test, you'll pass.' 6th grade private school education = you're good enough to have a diploma. Went to community college off and on for a few years.

>>210443
Also, somewhat amusingly, coming back up from shit I'm getting semi-political. I'm totally against welfare and stuff. Libertarian ideals sounds great, despite having been a kinda lazy/druggy bum. Despite all that, never having the income to pay taxes... I kinda hate gun-to-your-head-charity social policies. I've still got some years left to enlist too, kinda tempting.

>>210445
>I'm totally against welfare and stuff.
>I've still got some years left to enlist too, kinda tempting.
You'd be partaking in what you're supposedly against, you'd be getting housing and food and arms paid for by the taxpayers, unless you want the grand opportunity to kill 16 innocent people and get off with "oh, that poor fellow probably had PTSD, we shouldn't punish a murderer, he only killed some dirty arabs", I wouldn't recommend the military.

get a bulk bag of legumes (green or black lentils) from some kind of co-op before you set out on this
They keep for ages, you can sprout them in jars/bottles and eat them (they double-to-triple in size) or cook them in water.

If you leave the city learn of the wild plants you can eat in your area.
No matter where you are you can always eat dandelions. It might sound odd but you can eat the whole fucking thing flower, stem, leaf, and root.

quick-e food is too expensive per serving

>>210438
you will always lose more sweat than you gain water

bumping for interest