In order to find land, you must ensure above all that it is close enough for you to drive to if it turns out to be good, and also has an aerial photo marking the property lines so that you can find it on a topographical map and post it here (opening pic related). Which in itself can be a challenge.

For a topographical mapper go to ( http://mapper.acme.com/ ). Look at the city and county where the property is, study the roads and rivers and things around it (names of roads and addresses are best) then compare the picture to the hybrid mapper, mark the boundaries, and look at it in topographical mode.

What you're looking for is high ground, that's not marshy and is well above the water table. South slope is a huge bonus (extra insolation).

Insolation is the amount of sunlight a site receives, and is important for solar energy applications (pic related). It's not as important, but it's still very nice as it determines what we can do on our land.

>>161828

>you must ensure above all that it is close enough for you to drive to if it turns out to be good

This is why I think Alaska isn't such a good idea. According to the Population thread on the forums, we don't have a single member located in Alaska.


By the way, large amounts of rainfall/nearby water sources are also a huge plus in terms of location.

By the way, if anyone's interested, we have a forum:

http://bneweden.runboard.com/

It's a bit of a mess right now, but there's a ton of details there.

Precip.

Also mind that Texas is supposed to be under 8 years of drought.

>>161853
Alaskan here. Got any questions?

>>161873

What part of alaska? We were wondering about how land prices were in the more temperate coastal parts, how available internet was, and how sunny it gets or if its constantly pea soup fog. Among other things.

>>161873

Are there any lucrative industries that we could get into without having a great amount of capital?

>>161868

If we want both good insolation and good precipation, it looks like we should aim for the southeast.

Avoid South Texas... There's currently big oil drilling in Eagle Ford Shell down here and land is crazy expensive.

I wonder how true the stuff about bering sea gold is. I personally doubt that 75k boat with vacuum can make profit. I mean the stupid licenses have to be as much.
Can somebody please shed some light on this?

>>161886
Shale not shell

The reddit scum have been talking the talk for years, but lack any balls between themselves to do anything. Their leadership has evaporated.

http://www.reddit.com/r/redditisland/

What does 4chan think about drafting some of these unfortunate dreamers? With 3k members, at least some of them would be serious and not insufferable, right? Right?

>>161874
I'm from the rural Prince William Sound area. The winds are too high where I am to accommodate much agriculture. The best spots are in the Mat-Su valley and the Copper River Basin on the road to McCarthy, though the Mat-Su is more temperate and more developed. Palmer is the most established farm town.

The Basin is mostly sparsely inhabited primitive homesteads with a lot of characters. The Kenai Peninsula might be good too, I don't have much experience with that area.

Delta Junction has a dairy, but I wouldn't recommend living there.

Generally, the more rural you get, the more likely your neighbors are on the run from the law and/or are trying to build a nuclear reactor in their backyard. This actually happened outside Fairbanks.

I am not really keen on land prices (houses, building materials, and utilities are expensive as fuck), though the state has regular surplus land sales and you can probably get a load of acreage for much less than any region in the lower 48 that has a reputation for agricultiure.

>>161887
None of the guys on the show are certified divers. I bet OSHA or MSHA is going to crack down on them next season. The thing about the Bering Sea is that it's crazy windy up there, and you are at the mercy of the weather as to how many days you'll work. A buddy of mine did his first season as an owner operator and has maybe an ounce to show for it. Another thing is that now that it's on TV, people are going to be going out there and trying their luck, and people are going to be selling out of the business and will probably try to rip you off.

If I were going to plan a settlement, I would go for land that has some geothermal activity. You can grow vegetables year round, power and heat your infrastructure, and have a place to soak at the end of the day. There are a few derelict hot spring resorts in remote Alaska that have been on the market for decades.

>>161973
I figured. I knew Gold Rush Alaska was bullshit, so I figured the other show had to be also. I think you only need diving license if you use a tank, they use air compressor and hoses. I would go up there and sell the equipment. Reminds me of Klondike and the guys who made the most were the ones who were selling the shovels.

I didn't know about the geothermal, that's very interesting. I will look it up. Any chance you have a link to the sale website?
Thanks

>>161977
Just checked and it looks like Melozi got bought up, but the area surrounding Manley Hots Springs resort has acreage for sale, and I believe it's one of the few that are the road system too.

Eastern Oregon has tons of hot springs, but the most you can get out of the land in the basin and range area is probably a cow-calf operation.

>>161984
http://www.landwatch.com/Alaska_land_for_sale/Manley_Hot_Springs
forgot the link.
Note that they don't say which ones definitely have geo.

>>161985
Also they don't mention that it's deathly buttass cold in the winter.

>>161984
>>161985
>>161988
Thanks, those places are pretty expensive though. East Oregon has hot springs? MAn this board is educational as fuck.

>>161991
There and southwestern Idaho. outside SLC Utah too. Took a road trip and I'd keep spotting steam plumes off the side of the road. Most of them were on private land though.

>>161878
I think innovation is your advantage here. You'll have a bunch of weird people on a bit of land doing things most engineers and programmers aren't doing. Technology and creative works are what you'll be able to do best, although it might be nice to have something that churns out enough money to keep you afloat.

What's the governance procedure for this town? It's not anywhere obvious on the forums.

I'm thinking a form of democracy where votes are weighted expertise or experience on that particular issue, e.g. if we're deciding whether or not to buy some new equipment someone who knows their shit writes a 5 question quiz for the vote, and each vote is weighted by the score on the quiz. Just an example, mind you, and I've already imagined a scenario where it could be corrupted. We need to have a very clear self-correction procedure in the case of rising corruption.

>>162024

I believe the system we would be using would be direct democracy (at least at first). However, a system like the one you proposed was suggested in a previous thread. Our form of government may still be subject to change.

>>161878
The wedding business. Have a nice field with a view, some outbuildings where the bride and groom can get ready, a flower garden for photo ops, and a barn for the reception, and you're good to go. Do some organic catering along with that and you're in the money.

>>162103
Heck, you can skip the barn and erect a large yurt.

>>162103
>>162104

I'm kind of surprised. We would really get business out in the middle of nowhere with nothing but a nice view, a handful of outbuildings, a garden, and a yurt?

>>162105
My best friend had her wedding here and that's about all the facilities we used. There were bathrooms too. It was summer, so the outbuildings and barn weren't heated. The caterers were uniformed and they took care of dinner, dessert and bartending. A lot of time and love went into tending the lawn and gardens, and there as seating inside the barn but she rented chairs from elsewhere for the ceremony.
Everybody either spent the night elsewhere on the island or commuted from Seattle.

So yeah, there's more to it but usually the bride rents out most of the secondary decor and flowers. You're just the venue.
http://www.fireseedcatering.com/index.html

>>162107
And despite it being kind of close to the ferry, both the rental houses for the guests were 45 minutes away.
I think more than anything the venue needs to be charming and/or rustic.

I'm not home to look up prices. But have you checked out Maine? It cam get cold but there is a lot of old farmland that was abandoned in the 19 and early 20th century when the canning industry collapsed. The soil can be a little sandy but rich and plenty of trees and fairly good hunting. You might get lucky and even find an unused cove for a fishing village.

>>162109
Maine is cheap that is true, somewhere around 1k per acre, which is a good low price for land that's usable. The only land cheaper than that is either a desert or volume discount

One more idea for the profit part:
Arabs love goat, but the hoat has to be killed somehow to make it possible for them to eat only because of religious reasons. Imagine Kosher but instead it's called Halal or something like that. We could raise goats and sell them for meat. One goat goes for $175+, which would be an awesome business for us. 100 goats would be 150k+ income

>>162149
afaik you need an imam to bless the goat while you slit it's throat, or something similar

or perhaps you just meant to raise the goats and sell them to a slaughterhouse

>>162153
Yes, there are those 2 options. The problem is that I doubt that we could get iman in such a remote place, so that would result in slaughter house and less profit.

I just saw this posted in /sci/. (>>>/sci/4410606#4410804)

http://biolite.myshopify.com/

Could we DIY a system like this? Not that $129 is prohibitively expensive, but the wood it burns has to be really small which is impractical. We're going to need wood burning stoves regardless, in every house for heating. How could would it be to also provide our electricity? The ashes double as biochar.

>>162144

I've seen decent land go for a lot less than that - you just need to know where to look.

>>162244
Care to share where?

>>162244

I applaud your efforts to add nothing to the discussion. Faggot.

Aside from the finding of promising sites, it seems the only other major thing to do is to organize an LLC or nonprofit, and set up a bank account in its name to collect funds.

That means it would require a framework for building trust, which is to say transparency in seeing all donations and 'auditing' the bank account to make sure they match and there are no withdrawals, and a legal guarantee of the ability to receive refunded money if the project falls through. Anybody know how such things work? I want to do it right to ensure there is no fraud or even credible accusations of fraud. I want every cent to be accounted for but I've never done anything like this.

No one person should be able to run off with all our jewgolds. I know escrow is basically what I'm describing with reliable third parties like banks holding the money for a fee, but apparently there is no paypal escrow service so it's confusing. Any suggestions?

>>162328

Forgot mah tripfaggotry.

>>162328
hmmm,
There are few options, but it all depends on details.
Do you want to put the profits back to the community?
Do you want to have shareholders, who would get the profit?
How is your vision, when it comes to money? Say someone raises 200lbs of pork, what do they get? A certificate to redeem later on?
I would propagate inc because the profit can be shared among everyone, so everyone is an employee basically.
It would be great if you could post your vision on how things would work.

can we share our women? ill put in 2k if the winter isnt fucking -20 and 6 months long

>>162348

Well we wouldn't be incorporated, we'd be an LLC at most. There are two problems; the first is subsistence vs profit, and the second is residency vs investment.

On the first matter, let's say we spend $1000/year on food (flour, rice, beans, spices, ammo for hunting and so on), $1000/year on internets, and $3000/year on mortgage payments and taxes, and sold 4 cattle per year for $6000 in revenues. Now, we've subsisted, and fed ourselves, secured our shelter and so on, but the profit is only $1000 for the whole year. Presumably people would be able to work off farm as well since raising cattle isn't particularly labor intensive, but it paints the picture well. Subsistence can be achieved without significant profits. Having people classified as employees would obviously not work well when their showing for the year was $200.

On the other matter, how do we decide who gets to live on the farm. We've got people in college who want to invest but only want to work the farm on summer break. How is that handled? What's their motivation to work when they're not being fed and sheltered by the product of that work? Obviously the value of the land will rise as a result of improving it, but how will that rise be reflected in the price of shares?

We don't want to go through all of this and be transformed by 'market forces,' into a run of the mill corporate farm. I think we all just want to live sustainably in peace off grid. That's the goal that has to be kept in mind.

>>162363
That's a very tough decision. I think the whole work during summer is not viable. Maybe buy in have a secured plot/space but won't get any benefits or profits. It is very complicated, I thought that it wasn't, but the more I thought about it the more difficult it seemed.
There are 2 options, basic differentiations.
Either have people work on shared land and work on everything together, or let everyone have few acres and "tax" them from it, like feudalism just not as harsh. Since, everyone wants to keep to themselves and do their own thing, number 2 seems as a good fit.
I have a similar model, but mine is a business model, which to me is lot easier, though it has a different purpose. I can't seem to figure out how to get around lets say 20 people living on one property in different dwellings. Since, many will live there permanently, will there be one address? Some one posted something about co-op, which could take care of that.
Also, are you there for profit or just to live? I am not saying profit as in 500k a year, yet it is possible, but you don't want to live by, right?

>>162363
forgot to ask, where is that picture from?

>>162381

I did a GIS for 'Czech Hedgehog.'

>>162509
I have been to that exact one

>>162512

That's crazy. Where is it?

Oklahoman here. While I can't say that I will be able to join in on this project (things might change however, future is uncertain for me currently) I will attempt to look up some prices for land and such.

>>162525

Appreciate that! Which part of the state do you live in, the western half or the eastern one? According to the insolation and precipitation maps the eastern part is progressively more wet with almost the same amount of sun.

>>162551
Sorry for late reply, I'm in Central Oklahoma, however I'm closer to the west than I am to the East, I should still be able to look up land prices on the Eastern side of the state though, post some whenever I'm able to.

>>162514
NE Czech Republic. I was there more than 16 years ago as a little kid. Them walls are thick as shit, it's almost unimaginable, well untill you walk into some old churches that have 6 foot thick walls.

>>162750

If we were going to have Earthships, we'd have to look into counties with lax building codes. You should check out these links for some examples and more information:

http://earthbagbuilding.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/counties-with-few-or-no-building-codes/

www.greenhomebuilding.com/building_codes.htm

>>162861

Fuck the po-lice. I don't need no stinking building codes.

Don't forget about severe weather preparations. In areas like the Southeast and the aforementioned Oklahoma, tornadoes and severe thunderstorms are common.

Bamp for chats

How do we DIY low-power, sun-readable laptops with wireless mesh networking?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Building_a_Rural_Wireless_Mesh_Network_-_A_DIY_Guide
_v0.8.pdf&page=1

PDF for building internodes bridges.

trying to build the ultimate basement to dwell in? good luck kids

>>163326

A wild heckler appears.

He used "Childish Insults!" ...But it wasn't very effective.

>>163328
you responded with some cheap off topic nerd insult. effectiveness was had

>>163331

Whatever bumps my thread, chum.

>>163328

attack is blocked by mass delusion

If the connection to the internet is a satellite uplink, what's the fucking point of the mesh network? Why not just cut out the middle man and have satellite internet? The connection has to be a high bandwidth cable connection somewhere along the way.

>>163319
Atom netbooks run on around 22w
>>163376
Satellite internet is unreliable, shits when it gets too cloudy, and has a bandwidth cap. VERY SLOW

It would be cheaper to build a tower in the middle of the property and mount antennae with amplifiers.In US FCC limits the signal to 1w. We could also communicate via skype over the wifi with each other. Like emergency, important news, meetings etc.

>>161822
Can we buy more that one share? What about Louisiana (where I am)? There is a great deal of cheap land in the northern part of the state. Good land that won't break the bank. How much land are we talking about?

>>163504

Northern Louisiana sounds like it could be good. I generally look at land between 10 acres and 40 acres. Budgeting for south eastern land is difficult because the land is so expensive. Find some ads you think are doable realistically (IE don't cost $200k) that have aerials with the property line marked and post them. I'll do the topographical part if you don't want to be bothered with that.

Wait, so how much land are you guys looking to get (in acres)?

I live in Washington state, and sometimes you can find land for pretty cheap around here. In addition, we have a pretty stable climate without too much extreme weather (at least on the western side), and lots of things grow around here.

Plus, people tend to have a more environmental spin, so you won't seem too crazy to the locals.

>>163514

See above, and post some sites that you could investigate personally.

http://www.landwatch.com/Mason-County-Washington-Land-for-sale/pid/200010589

http://www.landwatch.com/Thurston-County-Washington-Land-for-sale/pid/200011234

http://www.landwatch.com/Thurston-County-Washington-Land-for-sale/pid/200005104

I mean, there's lots of places around here.

What's the price you guys are looking for roughly?

>>163520

None of those have aerials marking the property boundaries. The 70k one for 15 acres is the most realistic in price of the three.

>>163531
Is there a specific website that has properties listed with that information? Most everywhere I look doesn't.

>>163514
Washington is very cool place, but I think good land costs a lot.
>>163513
depending on a state or maybe IRS to get better taxes of a farm or something similar you need 20+acres. That is if you want to go that route.

http://www.landwatch.com/Stevens-County-Washington-Land-for-sale/pid/113437045

Well, power and septic installed, on a paved road,

>>163549
Western Washington definitely isn't super cheap, but can be in some places (far away from Seattle).

Eastern Washington is basically uninhabited outside of Spokane.
>>163552
This is a good example, with 55 acres costing ~$65,000

>>163513
http://www.landsofamerica.com/land-for-sale/49-acres-in-Franklin-County-Louisiana/id/1056205

Is this the sort of thing you are looking for?

>>163552

Wow. I wonder what's wrong with it. That looks fantastic. It must be all marsh to have a price like that. This is where being able to look at the site's topography (using an aerial pic with the property boundaries) is critical.

>>163562
That's probably the case, as it is listed as hunting land and not pasture.

If I lived in Eastern Washington I could check it out (I could check out a lot of cheaper lands if I lived in Eastern Washington). Also, Eastern Washington has a higher-varying temperature and is much more dry.

>>163561

Also a good price, and the topography looks good. No legal access or easement though.

Another Oklahoman here, been lurking for a while and this has definitely piqued some interest. 19, currently in college at OU, but I'm not really sure if college is right form me so the next few years are kind of uncertain.

My mother is also a real estate agent in northeastern Oklahoma, so I can easily look into land in the area.

>>163568
Is that a no go then? It looks like Mauld road is very close to the property line. Can we not make an easement.

>>163576

Dunno. If you look on the topo there's a dirt road leading to the prop, but apparently we'd have no legal access. The road might be gated.

That's the kind of thing to find out if we were to send someone to visit it. From the topo I'd guess the land is about 4 - 6 feet above the water table and so would likely have some buildable spots.

http://www.landsofamerica.com/land-for-sale/50-acres-in-Grant-County-Wisconsin/id/1057642

Somebody tell me what's wrong with this land.

>>163583
What about this one then? http://www.landsofamerica.com/land-for-sale/27-acres-in-Richland-County-Louisiana/id/1055207

Not as much land but still a workable amount.

I'd love to contribute more to this thread but I don't know much about buying land.

But, whenever you get past that. I used to work on a chicken farm and I make bread and cheese as a hobby. If that's any help.

bump for interest....nobodys in the IRC

>>163619

Did you go to the one in the OP? Or did you bookmark the old one? We moved to http://mibbit.com/?channel=%23AgrarianEven&server=rizon.mibbit.org

In other news, I want this property. If it's legit. It's right outside the town where most of my family lives, including an aunt who owns a cattle farm.

LAfag here. Land is cheap, and fiberoptics installations have been rolling out in quite a few places, most notably in lafayette. We could either set up mesh to one of those places, or get a line run out to near wherever we live. Mesh would probably be more feasible.
In LA you can grow year-round, rather than growing 1/3 of the year, and running up heating bills the other 2/3 (Wisconsin)

Kentucky is most rural state. INB4 Guns n Meth.

>>163642

Post up some props.

Although LA and Orange county are highly hostile to farmers. They want to sprawl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw3RiMdS7sE

>>163663
>>163663
>lafayette
>not in california
>mfw you're either retarded or trolling
IT'S CALLED LOUISIANA YOU FUCKINGMORONSHUTHTHEFUCKUP

>>163696

Take a chill pill.

I honestly can't see this project amounting to anything, or turning any kind of profit.

>>163650
Kentucky is cool.

>>163642
It's cheaper to heat with wood than run A/C the whole summer. We need in between Wisconsin and Louisiana.

>>163696
In all honesty I thought you were saying LA as in Los Angeles, but then I figured it out.

>>163708

Summer is hot everywhere. Climate control will be expensive and requisite no matter where we go. By using small structures, we will save energy/money.

>>163707

My jimmies remain unrustled, El Serpentino. Go heckle some OWS guys in /pol/.

>>163708
Wisconsin winters aren't even that bad. This entire winter it's only been under 25-30 degrees for a month. Of course, that's anecdotal, but it's really not that bad, especially in the southern part of the state.

>>163717
Yes but using A/C for 5 months instead of 2 makes a big difference especially if it's humid as fuck.
HOWEVER, if we sprung up for geothermal, we could live like kings for few pennies.

Found some articles about farms specifically in Wisconsin in case somebody is interested
http://www.smallfarm.org/uploads/uploads/Files/niche.pdf
http://www.smallfarm.org/uploads/uploads/Files/FARM%20BUSINESS%20START%20checklist.pdf
http://www.smallfarm.org/uploads/uploads/Files/SoWantFarmr.pdf

>>161822
>4chan marijuana farm project
FTFY

I made a list of stuff just because. Please feel free to add and critique.
Thanks

>>163930
Solar is not cheap. That money could get put towards more cost effective, longer-lasting energy solutions.

>>163837
That's really the only plan that makes any sense to me.

you'll need a generator... also how about just growing shitloads of edible mushrooms and selling them to grocery stores. Not fucking psychedelic ones.

OP, I am going to the U of M for horticulture in the spring. I wont be done for a few years, but if this takes off I will come down and help your project out.

>>163941
solar panel from HF is like 150 and is enough to charge laptop and cellphone, maybe run some lights at night. The solar is only temporary.

Are you wanting to build homes on the site, or just get a site with a large home on it and share the house?

>>163962
Very good question, though lot of small homes seems like a good idea a big house would get taxed differently. Ultimate stealthmode would be a barn with small living units on the inside.
http://thelcn.com/2011/11/11/barn-on-outside-home-on-inside/
There few other people who did this, I think I have seen it on the small cabin forum.

If you have everything under one roof, the A/C and heater will be just one, but also many problems can arise. Cleaning shared spaces, loud music, loud people etc. So as much as I like one house idea, I think itwould hurt the community.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB-MhZkYVo8&feature=relmfu

Should start looking into building homes like this

>>163976
It could be considered a mobile home, thus different laws/regulations/taxes.

>>163979
sorry meant like this

>>163987
>>163987
forgot link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qghZ2ao7GKM&feature=relmfu

Who's to keep the op from running off with the money and moving to Argentina?

>>163988
I followed this guy, he does it to sell his ebook. Either way, most regulations are anything under 100 sq ft is permit free some places are even 200 sqft.

Good question is this:
If we have multiple dwellings how do we deal with septic?

>>163989
No one person is able to access our funds by themselves, definitely not op.

>>163989
There will be fail proof measures in place.

OP's just randomly kicking everybody who joins the irc channel now

>>163991
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99RaYL2GPJk

$10400 dollars in-hand money tallied for the project.
+ $.50 pledged by our resident babby troll Serpentino.

>>164011
Got it, forgot about stuff like saw dust toilet etc.

I'll chip in $1

>>164249
Mods are gone and left the irc to default muting. Try chatting them up tomorrow, earlyish.

I have an idea about land
Southeast New Mexico
its about 500-1000 an acre. there is an underground river system so land comes with water rights and every home has its own well
Hunting is good and many animals such as wild hogs and coyotes are encouraged to be hunted.
there is a nearby river although the water is to dirty to drink it produces large 56-90 lb fish(of all the times i have gone fishing we came back with just a 20 lber ONCE).
summer is hot but the winter only goes down to 50-60 9/10 days.
It might seem like a bad one but i know entire extended families who do nothing but live off the land.this place has always been an agricultural community.
plus the cops in Chaves county in particular rather just leave people well enough alone

>>164259
That sounds sweet as hell. What kind of fish are you catching?

Catfish mostly
theres also gar in that river and those fuckers can be dangerous
I feel the need to mention that im not talking about fishing with a pole . Ive never seen someone catch good fish with a pole you've got to go graveling or "noodling as they call it on tvbasically go right up to its burrow in the side of the river stick your hand in his mouth so he bites down on your whole fist and pull him out(they cant take your hand just scratch real good

http://www.governmentauction.com/

I assume you guys know about this, right?

Why buy land if you can simply rent? Takes much less capitol and if you find a good landlord, you can secure a lease for 10 years or even more. Then, when it's up, just roll with it or buy the land with your accumulated capitol.

>>164259
That would be an ideal project for huge aquaponics operation. We could grow lettuce all year round and other veggies for profit along with fish.
Very cheap land btw.

>>164294
Yes, very good idea. I have suggested that in previous thread. Some land can be rented as low as 5 bucks an acre. However, I have suggested buying 5 acre plot to own, and then we would rent the rest around us.
There is actually exactly one town who did this in the early 1900s late 1800s. And now? Now they own thousands of acres, have their own community and nobody fucks with them. Pretty smart if you ask me.

>>164290
it's a scam

>>164302
River Cottage fan here, and to whom you replied. My 5 year plan is to secure a job-independent source of money and move to Dorset. I live in continental Europe and the winters are way too harsh for my taste, I'd much rather have a bit more wet and a lot less scorch that Hungarian summers are right now. Winters are about 3 months long, with plenty snow. High summer months are a disaster, three months of 35+ celsius with minimal rain. Unbearable in the city, and needs way too much watering if you are a smallholder.

>>164306
Pretty cool, I really liked River Cottage, have all the seasons. What are your plans as far as veggies and animals? Something similar to Hugh? I can only imagine that land there is expensive; however, if you move there I will greatly envy you the seafood.

Have you guys considered Missouri yet? I've been doing some research and it actually sounds perfect for our purposes.

>centrally located, so most of our members won't have to travel too far to get there
>not too hot or too cold, land is quite suitable for farming
>great insolation and rainfall
>a bunch of other ecovillages/intentional communities are already located there
>not devoid of people
>very safe from natural disasters

Honestly, I could go on and on. Unless somebody knows about some terrible flaw with Missouri that I'm just not seeing, I'm going to check out some suitable properties.

>>164334

Misery would be good too, but unless you live there and can do due diligence on potential sites by driving there, there's no point.

>>164334
http://www.landwatch.com/Howell-County-Missouri-Land-for-sale/pid/223998533
looks interesting

>>164342

And? Do you live within range to investigate or not? If not, my face when.

>>164356
no reason to be dick

>>164361

Just try to think of it like you're buying land for yourself. I assume you want to own land. For myself I said I'm going on May 1st, no matter what. Which includes a scenario where this project being all talk and no one but me was serious at all. So I focus on land around me that I think I could afford.

That's the strategy I want all the people looking at land to have. It'll get us a lot of high quality info on sites that can actually be investigated.

>>164362
So you are basically ONLY interested in Wisconsin land?

>>164363
He wants you to only look at land that you yourself could investigate to make sure it isn't marshland and if it would be suitable to farm on.

And so you could make a video or picture slideshow to show everyone so we could also comment on it.

>>164365
OK got it. In that case I can investigate anything around Houston, in case anyone is interested.