HER!

Fuck this bitch! She tried to draw me in with some stupid little sale phrase. So I told her I "would bite" and check out what the little asian chick had. All of the art was NOT worth what she was asking, and when I told her no, she nagged/yelled at me the whole way across the room as I walked away. Fuck her.

well it was her or one of the dozens of drones working for her.

Did any of these tables have anything to do with the asian chick who was doing portaits?

>>3689

No idea it was like a zerg rush.

I still can't believe they did that. At least it looks like EVERYONE fucking hates them now.

man i didn't even notice that there was that sort of thing going on. when i was making my way through the artist alley, it looked like each table was for an individual artist rather than multiple tables being for the same artist. but i've definitely heard of this happening. shit's fucked up, and fucked the assholes who abused teh system

wait, was that the table near the edge of the room?
i remember a rather large display for some shiny animu crap with asian girls trying to talk me into their bullshit, but it didn't seem like 14 tables.
i also knew it wasn't worth the money, especially since it was just fanart of shows i didn't like.

14 tables SPREAD OUT. not all in a row.

What shitty art...I'm sure weaboos bought their bullshit though.

That Sasuke has a small-ass head. All the art looks-the-fucking-same.

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

Now that you mention it, I do feel like I saw that same crap over and over. Strange....

If I ever see this girl in person, I am gonna give her a piece of my mind. Or perhaps my dick. In her face. Or maybe not. I don't know. I'm no seer of the future.

We should boycott her and her boyfriend next con. everyone should document their underhanded schemes and warn other fans to stop this nonsense.

Everyone is flaming up their dA pages, for righteous goodness.

Oh god, I didn't know that was this chick.
I walked by some of her stands and started laughing at her shit artwork.
Whoever was running her shit looked really pissed off, but didn't say anything to me.

Ohh...
I think I met this gal in the alley.
She was trying to snooker me into buying something.
Hey, I took a moment to look but nothing caught my interest. I sneaked away while she was trying to snooker someone else.
Now I understand why it seemed like I was seeing the art and style at several other tables...
They were all hers.

>>3689
Remy/Sylvia doesn't do at con drawings because she's a lazy bitch. Either that or, like her lack of ability to change facial expressions suggests, she just traces most of her work and can't actually draw for shit. So no, she was not related to anyone drawing portraits of which there were a number of them, one of whom was quite good in my opinion.

Back to the RAGE at hand though, despite doing the same thing at other cons, this was by far her biggest spree of table monopolization yet. Considering the amount of drama involved I know practically half the artists on the American circuit are out for her blood and never want to see her rim-lit/dodge-and-burn-tool artwork in another alley.

It's a pretty notable accomplishment for IRL trolling. The anime art crowd at cons is generally a very supportive and tolerant, so it's almost impressive to see someone flood the alley with so much feces that they start a shit-list just for her.

Not only did she piss of the artists, she annoyed the staff, harassed numerous convention attendees, and even had industry lawyers on her ass for using copyrighted logos and stocking WAY more than the 25 copy limit on fanart.

As an AA person myself, I know how much people want tables. What she did is just plain stealing and disgusting. I only get one table and I try to share with as many people as I can (still looking for one more person to squeeze into the mix this year since one dropped out). I'm not going to judge her on her art, but her actions don't say terribly good things about her. Srsly, there should be a limit to how many tables a person can get :/

Oh shit, this bitch. I wandered into the artist's alley on Friday cause some douchebag staff told me it was the dealer's room and decided to walk around anyway. I was pointing out a Caramelldansen pic she had done and she tried to hoze me and my friend into buying stuff, so I just made some BS story about how my friend didn't know what Caramelldansen was and quickly gtfo.

Lol, I noticed how many tables had the same shiny shit. I avoided them all and instead went for some quality. I ended up spending a good amount of time at a single table just bullshitting with the artist.

There was a group of tables together for one artist at one point, but I'm pretty sure that was unrelated to her since the artwork actually looked good. And she was there herself doing portraits.

I didn't so much notice that the same art was being sold at 14 different tables, but that the same aggressive sales pitch tactics were being used by attractive and mostly asian females. After going in there the first time I actually devised a route to peruse the rest of the artwork while crossing paths with as few of these twats as possible.

this is why i'm not really attracted to asian females anymore...

>>3770
A++ would lol again.

It's always funny when a DA artist fools their fans and makes a profit of it. Kind of like toounit or what's his name.

Christ, no wonder why buying the table was so fucking hard.
I had to share with my fucking fat friend and her coterie, as well as my partner. Fuck. We were goddamn crowded.
Fucking greedy cunt. I was wondering why there was so much shiny shit. We were waitlisted for /months/ until we found out that we had a table two weeks before the con, making all our merchandise rushed.
Goddamn.

No wonder I had a deja-vu feeling. During the con, one of the girls was begging me to buy something. She was all, so what do you think, do you like it, etc. Glancing over the work, I was repulsed. "Sorry miss, I don't really like Naruto" At first I noted a Sephiroth killing Mudkip picture, so I decided to counter her attempt to charm me with some of my own, as I look young for my age. "B-b-but I like Mudkips!" I jested. Soon we got into a fake tears crying moe standoff, which ended in me leaving.

However, she got me back later on, when I was nigh broke. Cue more verbal games and light chatter. I even threw in a personal anecdote on why I don't go after prints in the artists' alley. In the end, I wound up buying a small Suiseiseki print off the table to the right (which I could swear was linked to the same AIDS) for five bucks to get her off my tail. Like hell I'd buy some $10-25 Kingdom Hearts scribble. At least I kept her from goading me into something worse. She wasn't quite rejoicing or anything when I caved, as she probably wanted me to get the priciest shit there instead of a reluctant scrap purchase. Third worst five dollars I've ever spent. I could've spent it on food that night, but eh, five bucks.

>>3709

Yeah, I remember seeing that one giant table full of fanart towards the edge of the room, but it didn't seem like 14 tables worth of stuff. Then again, I could have blocked it out since the style was so painfully generic and overly-shiny.

On another note, I don't see how buying that many tables is practical in any way - seems like the amount of prints you would have to sell to break even with the cost of the tables would be ridiculously high.

>>3993
Most of the tables were spread out throughout the artist alley. Grouping all 12-14 or whatever would've been blatently obvious.

Desufriends posted a journal addressing the problem. What does everyone think?

http://ramy.deviantart.com/journal/19954528/#comments

>>3929
hah, you wussed, and didnt get any pussy in the end

nothing serious just trying to knock post 4035 off of page 0

My g/f bought some of her shit as a gift for me at Animenext

>>3993

Supposedly they didn't pay for all the tables, but instead the friends paid for them. Perhaps they were promised a cut of the profits and figured it'd equal out to the price oft he table. That, or they're fucking fangirls, which are always retarded.

>>4089
Plus the price of getting to Baltimore, staying at a hotel, and registering for Otakon.

Looking at the pics from Otakon on ED, I remember seeing them at AWA last year. Didn't pay them much mind since none of their stuff was relevant to my interests. Maybe they're a bit of the reason why so many people on the AWA forums didn't get AA tables this year...

ya

>>4034
I think I'm a bit too young for her tastes. Though she was kinda cute. If it weren't for what she was engaging in.

>>4111

It's hard to be angry at horrible art with your penis in a vagina, FYI.

>>3657
WHY SO SAMEFACE

SAMEFACE SAMEFACE

OH LOOK AT THAT CHICK, WAIT THATS A GUY WITH THE SAMEFACE AS EVERYTHING ELSE.


SAME FUCKING FACE EVERYWHERE SO CREATIVE

but it sells.

>>4093
I heard they made $25k. Now, that means selling about 150 pieces at each of their 14 tables at between $10 and $15 a pop. That's about 50 a day per table, or about ten an hour, or one every five minutes or so. That seems a bit much, but it's not beyond reasonable.

>>4014
I like how he doesn't actually address how they "supposedly" registered with other people's names. Sure, he himself only got four tables, but his two sisters and a cousin also got four tables.

Also, just because the lawyers okay something doesn't mean it's not legit. It just means that they feel there is nothing they can do about it. They couldn't get them on whatever copyright laws or such, so they had to let them stay. It hardly means they weren't still breaking the rules. The lawyer was there to advise on law. Otakon makes the rules for the artist's alley.

>>4071
L-O-L.

>>4014
A bullshit spinner is a bullshit spinner. After seeing what I saw at Otakon, I'm never going to be able to consider ANYTHING that even remotely looks like something he's had a hand in legit.

Everyone who was in cahoots with them at the convention was acting suspicious. None of them were interested in meeting other artists or sketching, they were rude to customers and abrasive to other artists. They didn't give out any contact info for getting in touch with them after the convention.

I like how he mentions the extra tables that were added THE DAY OF THE CON and were taken from the FOOD COURT to help alleviate the over crowding in the alley. The fact remains that he and his posse snatched up 14 tables the day they were posted with the malicious intent of forcing out other artists from attending. This is a practice that he has admitted to at previous conventions.

The only up side of all this is that he's made such a fool out of himself that he'll have to curtail his table spree at future conventions out of shame.

>>4014
Just read through his page.

Goddamn, I hate DevianTART.

Does Artist's Alley ever really close up? I mean, at this point, if they ever leave their table, somebody's going to trash it.

A friend of mine who is a webcomic artist was a bit annoyed at the woman but then talked to me later admitting that she helped write the ED page on the bitch.

These are pics of Ramy and his bullshit claim that his art was only being sold at one table:

Ramy @ his tables:
http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w328/ramyexposed/checking-his-table.jpg

Ramy @ his tables part 2:
http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w328/ramyexposed/hiramy.jpg

Two tables at the back with the two Asian girls:
http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w328/ramyexposed/tablesinback.jpg

Ramy's DA page where he lies his ass of in his journal (do those circled pics looks familar?):
http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w328/ramyexposed/yourgallery.jpg

Ramy's DA journal is full of fucking lies and anyone gullible to believe that should be ashamed of themselves.

Also, I still don't understand why his DA page isn't proof enough. Apparently, the shit that goes down on the internet holds up in court in various other cases. The MPAA and the RIAA get away with practically NO evidence, and yet Otakon has more valid evidence than those two companies do and can't do a damn thing about it.

Ramy?

Pretty much everyone hates Amuria already and plenty of people hate Ramy too.
This faggotry will complete destroy them.
Excellent.

>>3929

I bought a Sephiroth killing Mudkip picture from that person.

I found it worth the $10, but I wish the money wasn't going to a greedy whore. ;_;

>>4205
You could have spent that 10 dollars getting a blowjob from one of those whores

>>4200
I wish that were true, but they still do have legions of fans. That and most weeaboos have no taste, so if they walked by their tables, they'd be lured in by the SHINY FINAL FANTASY NARUTO DESU.

From the looks of it, though, it might be hard for them to GET tables anywhere. A lot of staffers from other cons are in on this and it's likely that they'll bring it up to the management at their respective conventions.

>>4259
Yeah, it's really pathetic.
Their DA pages are ALWAYS being spammed with hate and raeg though. There's far more hate there now than there are compliments.
I mean, sure there will always be plenty of 13 year old girls who will cream their pants over the SHINEY ANIMU DESU @w@, but neither of them will sell their shit in bulk again.
Like you said, they're going to have a difficult time getting a spot at conventions and since most 13 year olds have no money to buy prints, with their reputations ruined, hopefully their sales will drop radically.

>>4119
Ah, touche.

I'll have fun seeing those two's reputation plummet even lower.

oh christ. they had six continguous tables (or was it 8?) at metrocon down in tampa, FL last month. it was ridiculous. i wondered about all that and now i know. THANKS ANON :D

I was at Otakon and recall seeing a ton of artwork that looked the same. I wish I would have realized what was going on because I would have had some fun with it if I had known.

yes the otakon tables (and most other cons) do shut down (though people can still get into the room).
And please dont troll/trash it when no one is looking or you'll probably get thrown out of the con.


PS: not all asian girls are like that bitch, and considering most of the asian female population do draw and sell stuff at cons I would hope Anon wont troll the wrong girl


FYI: Sylvia is this really skinny asian chick with long hair down to her butt, and Ramy is this tall skinny dark hair american guy. Neither of them wear glasses. Both attend John Hopkins University.

Unfortunately I was actually at a table across from them and there were actually a lot of adults buying into it.

Overheard weeaboo: "OMG I love them. I bought like all their stuff last year."
Must be harder now with so many tables to visit.

>>4321
John Hopkins? Wow.

I hear competition there is cutthroat. Maybe that's where they learned how to mow down the competition in the AA.

I'd like to personally show the meaning of cut throat.
They have no fucking clue.

I was in the Artist Alley once, and that was because my cousin was buying food. The room's never impressed me.

Oh no! A lot of jealous/bitter/bored 'artists' are having a furniture crisis! Perhaps they should have booked a table earlier?

>>4339
1/10

Nice try Remy, sorry to hear you're so butthurt.
Maybe now you'll actually learn to draw though, which would mean everyone would be happy.

>>4339
Perhaps you should shove your own dick up your ass. Then you'd have an excuse to be so full of yourself.

I just want to point out that none of the artists bringing forth complaints against Ramy Badie and Sylvia Shi are doing so because of jealousy of either financial gain or artistic skill. The fact of the matter is, their strategy, while probably effective against the 13 year olds who love shiny animu art, was not very subtle. It hurts the artist alley because it lowered the variety of styles in the alley with 12 less artists, and it raises alarm flags with the industry.

All during the con, we had talks with fans, industry members, and dealers. Many of them raised concerns over the actions of these two. Their actions could very well lead to the shut down of alleys acros the country. Some artists, thankfully not me, live off the money they make at these conventions. And they manage to do it respectfully and within the rules. Shame on these two for trying to make a quick buck without considering the consequences for others.

This isn't even considering the fact that using a loophole to get extra tables to sell stuff is tax fraud as listed in the agreement you sign when you get your table.

>>4403

Don't get me wrong but I do agree with anon, I was pissed off. I couldn't buy a booth cause they bought em out. I hope to get a booth next year but till then I hope these girls remember that other artists would like to contribute to and not see the same thing throughout the art room. I was even more pissed at the bitch for flirting with my boyfriend right infront of me even though we said we saw nothing we liked. Nuff complaining I just hope these bitches learn their lesson.

>>4324
Hopkins is fucking crazy. They pull fire alarms in other dorms the night before an orgo exam to distrub everybody there studying. It's graded on a curve.

As a Hopkins Alum, I want to find them and force feed them Terrace Food court every day until they graduate. That place regularly gets shut down for things like rat feeces in the food.

>>4435
lawls, bitch has a facebook, thats ridiculously easy to find, john hopkins 08, ramy confirmed as a friend. anyone wanna troll?

>>4321
>>4435
I rejected JHU's offer due to bullshit like this I heard from the alums. That, and the fucking session I attended with other potential students showed how douchebaggy the student populace would be : /

>>4443
As a Hopkins alum, I can tell you that there are pretty much two kinds of students at JHU. One is the "laid back, will do my best, and try to have some fun" kind, the other is the pretentious "I go to a famous school and I'm so fucking smart everybody should be honored I even spit on them" kind. Well, and the dumb Jersey Korean kids who got in through mommy and daddy's donations, but they're a minority.

Imagine this sort of AA douchebaggery in your fucking college class for four years if you're like a BME or international studies major. There's a few majors with relatively low douchebaggery, but you still have to take classes with 90% douchebags.

>>4447

I'd probably enjoy kicking the shit out of them with my badass art skillz.

>>4496
I am ashamed to admit it, but these two hacks are far better artists than I'll ever be. But I can do non-Euclidean vector calculus in my sleep, so I don't feel too bad. But the point is, even *I* can tell all their shit is the same. If I were the guy in charge of artist's alley, I'd have given them a hard time for the w whole con, just to piss them off enough to not want to come back.

>>3657
It fucking had to be a fucking naruto fag that ruins everything.

Why does god give talent to the douche bags?

>>4536
What do you mean by "talent"?

>>4538

Good sir, I believe Mr. >>4536 means, by talents, this:

@w@

Oh, give her a break! After all, she's only a 14 year old COLLEGE PRODIGY desu @w@

http://sekiyoku.livejournal.com/
http://ryo0oki.livejournal.com/profile?mode=full

Her livejournals.

"Hi. I'm an insanely competitive, insanely intelligent, insanely precocious, and insanely talented bitch. You're better off running away before my condescending nature and lack of respect for you make you cry. ^^

I draw! Check out my art! I'm not condescending towards people that like my art. ;) "

I'm considering breaking her hand with a large weight next con i see her.

>>4573

oh anon, how you talk. make love to me.

You know, to the people who were complaining that these people were harassing them, all you had to do was to put in a complaint with the heads of the AA.

If they are being overly aggressive and it makes you feel uncomfortable, let the people in charge know. If they get enough complaints they HAVE to take some kind of action.

This not only applies to these two scumbags, but anyone else who gives you a hard time @ any con.

>>4577

Actually, a couple years back I had a couple of paint-over artists get all butthurt because I was making sales on (gasp!) self-drawn art and was sales pitching those in front of my table. The guy (who spoke for his paint-over girlfriend, who was terrified she was going to get caught and O_O all weekend) went to staff and complained because I was good naturedly pitching my two for 8$ deal to people who stopped and looked and they came by and told me to shut it, so I know this is truth. You don't even need a lot of people, just one good BAAAAAAAAAAWWWW.

.... i got some anal out of the deal so its all gud

>>4576

Appreciated. But I am too full of RAGE.

I think someone seriously needs to blare this song at her face:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVkLekOCMqc

yeah her art sucks

what annoys me more than what they did are the people that don't care he did it. Rather, those that think he's in the right to get 14 tables, why not get them, it's capitalism right *roll*

I saw it and thought "OH HAY, ISN'T THAT THE CHICK THAT /ic/ LIKES TO TEAR APART ALL THE TIME?"

I bought nothing and was kinda PO'd. D:

That shit they pulled this year was rediculous, you couldn't escape the shiny anywhere. The art made me want to hurl and they were pushy, rude, and inconsiderate to other artists, even if you ignored the whole 14 tables shit. The only thing the two are good for is lulz anyways. I almost fell over laughing when I realised that TEH GREAT AMU DESU @w@ is an azn. I have never seen so much fail from someone at a con who isn't a weeaboo.
I'd raid their tables if they decide to humor us with their presence next year. I wonder if anyone else would be up for it.

I'm seriously pissed I didn't realize this was happening. I noticed a distinct lack of variety this year as compared to last and I kinda wrote it off without considering it was a con-like thing. As an artist this makes me seriously fucking want to rip some balls off.

I was just reminded why I visit 4chan. 4chan knows about fucking everything.

>>4614
If they dare show their faces again with a table in AA, something will happen. Maybe not a raid, but they'll get rickrolled to death or something.

>>4631
That too would work out very nicely.

How about someone eat alot of shrimp and white wine....take some syrup of ipecac, and puke ALL over her art table. It'll be KAWAII PINK DESU.

lets burn it all with fire.

>>4647

we shuld nuke it from orbit lol! vapid cunt! 555 golden manbabies 2 u goon sir!

I did like the idea of trash it at night. To shred her artworks and spray paint Hows College @w@ over her posters would just be awesome. Then again, I have an insane imagination.

>>4652

I think this would inconvience other people more than her, just catch her after the con with a rock to the face. Bring your running shoes.

Remy is 'supposed' to be going to AWA in September. Atlanta is thriving with active anons. I cant wait to see the lulz.

1. get a lawyer
2. show charges of character copying (since naruto and that shit is the same)
3. charges and public arrest
4. ?????
5. Profit

or all the artists and a bunch of 4chan start taking her tables 1 by one.

>>4675
>>or all the artists and a bunch of 4chan start taking her tables 1 by one.

DO IT FAGGOT

Reading through Sylvia's livejournals is really an eye-opener. You get a real good look at her attitude- she treats her sister like shit. Notice that her "art" looks soo bland without her addition layer? Go look through her livejournal and find the Golden Queen one, before and after. So. fucking. bland. becomes. so. fucking. shiny.

Funnily enough Ramy's old artwork showed some skill, you can check em out at http://ramy.gfxartist.com/artworks/ Not bad- least compared to his anime shit. It's pretty funny how he says he doesn't use dodge but conveniently forgets to mention his color dodge layer. Lulz.

His fucking whore gf seems to have corrupted him, but hey they were probably meant for each other. Heard that ramy was quite the trouble maker in his younger days, tracing art and posting them on gaia.

I say next con they go to, bring something with you to fling in their faces. Preferably shit you know, just to give them a hint. You can totally pass it off as an accident, say they provoked you. Not completely untrue either, they sound like right bitches. Nag and nag and nag some more.

TAKEN FROM HER LJ, APPARENTLY WHO SHE THINKS SHE DRAWS LIKE

>7) Female bodies are heavily influenced by people like HTK and Oh!Great. I can't really draw male bodies. xD
>people like HTK and Oh!Great.
>Oh!Great.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ AIRGEAR, BUT IT'S A PRETTY FUCKING BADASS PLAY ON PERSPECTIVE AND BODIES IN MOTION AND BASIC WIN

WAAAAAAT

>>4709

WHAT THE BITCH THINKS SHE DRAWS LIKE Oh!Great?!?!

HAHAHAHA, NOT IN A MILLION FUCKING YEARS.

Silvia Shi is a whorebag. If I ever see her at a con I'm going to take a big shit on one of her 180 tables. Cunt.

Damn Artist Alley...

There was this cute-faced Asian woman trying to get my friend to buy some pictures of Gaara and he probably would've caved if it wasn't for the fact that the room we were in was still unpaid. So in true declining fashion, we told her that we'd be around tomorrow.

""SEE ANYTHING YA LYKE?!" @W@

Wait, so did it ever get answered how they GOT all those tables? Doesn't Otakon have a policy like AC where you can't have proxies in the Artist's Alley? I heard that the friends were trying to pretend to be the artists, but was this ever confirmed? Why couldn't the staff do something about it?

>>4807
at the con, staffers said that they investigated but couldn't figure it out. otakon actually closed the discussion thread when really 100% obvious proof was posted and have said nothing. it sort of smacks of ass-covering at this point, especially considering they were warned way in advance and totally ignored said warnings.

>>4834
otakon AA staff is a bunch of lazy pussys

>>4807
I don't think the proxies were confirmed. At the very least, though, there's hard evidence that both Sylvia and Ramy had their own 4 tables and that they were selling each others' prints there. The thing with the two extra "chibis-only" table is also a rumor that isn't quite confirmed yet, though if it is true, it's supposedly because the con opened up surplus tables.

Ramy and Sylvia are marginally within a legal safe zone, I think. Marginally.

>>4834
Hmmm i been talking to the staff, I think they closed the thread because everyone made their point, now they are going to figure out what to do.

I was looking at her art, and was kind of interested..but the girl kept begging me to buy one. It was like..jesus christ, stfu. It looked a bit generic anyway, and I hate artists that beg people to buy their shit.
I'm a girl so they didn't flirt with me :P

"I feel that my pictures are very easily distinguishable from those of others. In fact, people quite often complain that all my faces/pictures look exactly the same."

LULZ

Ughhhhn. Ramy and his shit D:

I wasn't at Otakon...but I was selling at Anime Next in June and I was plagued by Ramy spam and shit. The table right across from me and the annoying ass pushy asian bitches. And the table to the left of me was filled with the same shit.

I think he was actually there, doing really shitty sketches for people, but when I tried to call him out I said something along the lines of "OH, is this Ramy on deviantart....is that your table over there? LOLOL" They just looked at me with a blank stare.

I suggest someone using a modifyied pen laser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R1MmNR15lg

Set her stupid hair on fire.

Coming from someone who has stayed with them at cons before they went batshit, these kids make about $5,000 - $8,000 or more per con, depending on how big it is. Couple of money-happy douches.

>>4841

But isn't what they're committing tax fraud? I mean other people are selling their shit and they are the ones paying the taxes on it no?

I am confused, is the artist a guy or girl and was there any backlash from the con for this shit they pulled?

>>5089
Ramy is a guy, his girlfriend, Sylvia/Amuria is a girl.

Was there a backlash? Hell fucking yes. Online, a lot of popular/respected artists wrote raging journals about the incident, which fired a series of rumors flying every which way. All sorts of things were brought up (Ramy bringing family members, bribing people $200 to sell his art at different tables, etc.) some of which may or may not be true.

People at the actual con sort of backlashed too. A lot of people said they were confused by the ubiquitous shinydesu@w@ prints and a lot were really irritated by seeing the same shit over and over again. Even more people reported being harassed or annoyed by the girls at Ramy's booths, saying that they were really pushing and/or obnoxious.

Management-wise, lawyers were brought in for something other than having an "illegal" number of tables.. Apparently something on one of Ramy's prints resembled a copyrighted logo or something. That was cleared up, but nothing addressing the number of tables he had was dealt with by staff despite complaints from other congoers. That left Otakon staff in a whole 'nother shitstorm to deal with.

tl;dr- yes. It was shitstorm after shitstorm followed by another ongoing shitstorm.

Artists should expect staff to be on the prowl for anything like this in the near future. I'd guess that rules and restrictions at most Alleys are going to be a lot tougher thanks to these guys.

>>4321
Johns Hopkins?
Shit. I live close enough to PUNCH THEM IN THE FACE. Seriously. I had an artist table.... that sort of crap really bothers me - they did it at Katsucon too.
Watch your back on 41st Street, bitches.

>amuria
I don't give a shit about attention whores and their bad western art but shitting all over simoun is where I draw the line.

How much you wanna bet you can nail her on tax evasion, someone with the legal expertise go nail her for us.

>>5181
Or better yet, prank call her phone number PLEASE.

410 812 3870

Lets post some artists who want to strangle the both of them now.

http://banzchan.livejournal.com/31854.html
http://tanqexe.deviantart.com/
http://kuroitora.deviantart.com/journal/19887516/
http://luciole.deviantart.com/
http://nyanko-chan.deviantart.com/
http//speedking.deviantart.com
http://himemiya.deviantart.com/
http://s-girl.deviantart.com/
http://jurijuri.deviantart.com/
http://axl99.deviantart.com/
http://benwhoski.deviantart.com/
http://hac-studios.deviantart.com/

Anyone want to add, to the enormous list of people who are going to drill her and remy into the ground?

Those two are so fucked.

>>5204

Ya'll are justified in your hate, but make sure you take this whole thing in a way that would save a little grace for yourselves. Don't stoop down to their level.

I went to the artists alley and didnt notice anything strange, because I went there to find the guy who writes Flipside and the girl who does Redstring and get there books. However after awhile I noticed I saw the same face over and over and over. Its not until I read this I realized what was going on.

There deviant art claims they only had 4 tables. It was certainly much more lol. They also claim there were over 15 tables LEFT OVER. THAT is bullcrap. I had 2 friends who were calling and contacting otakon every day in hopes of getting a table with no luck. Thank god I didnt buy any of their shit. They need to be banned from Otakon for the shit they caused this year.

I only take comfort in the fact that they have lawyers down their throat at the moment. Bitchs ruined two of my good friends chance to share their art.

>>5255
The 15 extra tables part has a grain of truth to it. When Otakon staff arrived at the convention center they found about 2 dozen more tables in the AA than were supposed to be there. Rather than pack them up, the AA chair decided to make them into a makeshift island for anyone who wanted to use them. So while it is true that AA had extra tables, it was literally last minute fluke in the BCC's organization and Otakon couldn't contact any artists on the waiting list to fill said tables. Many artists can't afford the trip out to Baltimore if they can't recoup the costs with AA sales, so those those on the waiting list never showed up.

Remy stating that, was just one of many things he's tried to do to shift the blame for his actions onto those he's victimized. In many ways, his behavior is frighteningly psychopathic.

>>5204

nice map, i didnt know my table was in the middle of all this shit.

If they are making large amounts of money off of fanart, someone should call the copyright police on them...

Hell, were they charging Tax? Call the IRS on them.

>>5195
Haha, I'd totally do it. Even if she changes the number, it won't be too hard to get the new one.

>>5257
Isn't it amazing they had enough to stock every stall when they were only supposed to have 4?

she totally denied she was Amuria, too. I asked her.

>>5306
Do it faggot!

I, like >>4621 feel like a moron.

I bought some Hinata shit from these bastards for my closet Narutard husband solely to make up for the fact that I bought a beefcakey poster of a half-naked guy in a hakama from a show I don't even like.

The things I do to assuage my guilt.

facepalm.jpg

I hope you fuck them up, Anonymous. I can't draw for beans but I've got a handful of friends who struggle to get their actual ORIGINAL art (not animu style "original character do not steal zomg") circulated and sold, and the idea of people like them getting screwed over by a couple of self-absorbed asshats who draw really generic stuff pisses me off.

She's a complete and total asstard. If I met her, I don't know if she'd look the same afterwards. It'll be the best catfight ever and her dumbass boyfriend will have to try and jump in and save her. If he does, I'll castrate him by hand. He would finally be the shinydesu-girl that he should have been in the womb.

Excellent documentation, explanation, and proof of this bullshit:

http://tanqexe.deviantart.com/journal/19894132/

fucking self-entitled, arrogant bitch. don't think the rest of our asian girls are going to stand for this, behaving in a negative stereotypical hawker behaviour.

If these were 'random good luck' extra tables, why did they have PVC pipe stands for all of them? It's not like you could run out to Staples and buy an extra stand.

>>5360
The PVC pipe stands you're talking about were along the back wall and were left overs from the dealer's room, which provides PVC dividers for their booths. Many dealers took down dividers when they had multiple adjoining booths, resulting in excess dividers that were moved to AA.

The excess, last minute tables however, were added below and slightly to the left of the islands B and A as well as to the right of island Y in >>5204

>>5364
Rather, to the LEFT of island Y.

I see. I was unaware those were available to the general AA public - I've always brought my homemade one.

>>5364
well sheiiitttt. ima have to get some next year!

>>5314
I think this point says just about enough to prove that their scamming was no stroke of luck or coincidence. That and everything else.

Any word from the culprits yet?

>>5356
I feel kiiinda guilty about this. When I heard they were being really pushy salespeople and when I heard they were doing some backalley shit, I totally thought, "pfffft typical Azns."

>>5612
Remy posted in journal basically saying "FUCK YOU LOSERS, I'm sticking to my story about not technically breaking any rules and I'd also like to point out how totally jealous you all are of me."

>>5656

it's RAMY not remy

>>5712
LIKE I GIVE A DAMN TO SPELL THE FUCKER'S NAME CORRECTLY!

Oh fuck I bought art from that booth, Now i feel like a fucking jack ass.......

>>5718
This one
http://ramy.deviantart.com/art/KH2-Pure-Heart-37663749
and
http://ramy.deviantart.com/art/Orihime-61684137
Damn shiny collors D:

>>5720
burn them

>>5722
>>burn them, film it, send it to them as a warning
fixed

>>4089 and anyone else wondering about why 14 tables is economical

Word straight from one of the table girls; they're paid on commission.

>>5204

Add http://neolucky.deviantart.com/ to the list

>>5204
I might depending on how many tables they snatched up at AWA D:

>>5790
Word on the street is they're not on the AWA AA list.

>>5835

Well, according to Ramy's dA journal, "If you have any doubts about me as an artist or anything else, I'll be at AWA with one table, you can visit me there and I'll be glad to talk to you."

On a side note, it's nice to see the people here actually look at the evidence presented by the artists instead of blindly believing that Ramy is innocent beyond all doubt because he draws shiny animu art.

>>5845
...You must be new here.

ramy will NOT be blacklisted from Otakon. It's been said in animecons mailing list today.

http://lists.baka.org/pipermail/animecons/2008-August/018282.html - otakon staffer speaking about how they are handling the issue.

http://lists.baka.org/pipermail/animecons/2008-August/thread.html

>>5861
Makes sense. They're treading pretty carefully around this issue, and that's understandable.

I don't think it matters anyway, because Ramy's going to have a shitty time at his conventions from now on. He might still make money, but perhaps not as much as he used to in addition to having to constantly watch his back for any shitslinging.

>>5863
There would be so much animosity if Ramy/Sylvia ever do AA ever again. It'd be stupid if they tried, especially since their shit finally hit the fan and EVERYONE knows.

>>5845

It amazes me still how, looking at his journal, people STILL follow him blindly. I was going back and forth with one girl in the comments, and I simply couldn't take it anymore and stopped replying. Every reply was about how there was no evidence supporting the claims, despite the fact that there's so much first hand testimonial as well as photographical evidence. And obviously, ED isn't a valid source because THEY'RE MEAN WAAAAH.

Christ. The fact that there are people like that in this world just makes me want to start a fucking genocide.

>>6131
The fact that you actually wasted time arguing with this fucktard makes me wonder who is worse in terms of mindless, pointless tenacity over a pretty dead issue.

Man, I found some of Sylvia's non shiney-copy-shit art, and it sucks.

Did ever single comment against him get deleted completely on his journal and on other people's journals? o_o

>>6238
Remy sucks a lot of admin cock and likes to delete anything negative said about him in his journals. Most other artists are trying to pretend he and his monumentally gullible fans don't exist.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-08-30/otakon-acknowledges-artist-alley-controversy

Another hottie, a little blurry, but you get the idea.

ravens

Overheard at Comic-Con while I was having lunch ont he balcony of the Convention Center on Sunday July 27: a bunch of guys looking at the digital photos on the camera of another, while he narrated: "These were the Gohstbusters girls. That one, I grabbed her ass, 'cause I wanted to see what her reaction was." This was only one example of several instances of harassment, stalking or assault that I saw at San Diego this time.

1. One of my friends was working at a ocn booth selling books. She was stalked by a man who came to her booth several times, pestering her to get together for a date that inght. One of her co-workers chased him off the final time.

2. On Friday, just before the show closed, this same woman was closing up her tables when a group of four men came to her booth, started taking photographs of her, telling her she was the "prettiest girl at the con." They they entered the booth, started hugging and kissing her and taking photographs of themselves oding so. She was confused and scared, but they left quickly after doing that.

3. Another friend of mine, a woman running her own booth: on Friday a man came to her booth and openly criticized her drawing abiltiya nd sense of design. Reports from others in the same section of the floor confirmed he'd targeted several women with the same sort of abuse and criticism.

Quite simpl,y this behavior has got to stop at Comic-Con. It should never be a sort of place where anyone, man ro womna, feels unsafe or attacked eithe rverbally or pyhsically in any shape or form. There are those, sadyl, who get off on this sort of behavior and assault, whether it's to professional booth models, cosplayers or costumed women, or women who are just there to work. This is not acceptable behavior under any circumstance, nom atter whaty ou look like or how you're dressed, whether you are in a Princess eLia slave girl outfit or business casual for running your booth.

oYu mean this flat chested load of fail?

A whole board about me? You shouldn'th ave!

did anyone see/give money to the kids and dad/guy near the fountain entrance holding up score cards, and "need $ for Otakon" signs?